thanks.. if thats the 2wd ratio's then it's the same as the 4wd r150f. yeah I'd like the 4.31 1st gear ratio of the r151f but just getting a counter gear for one is around $500. I've got a good 1st gear but the counter gear is shot. the 3.83 1st gear ratio should be OK because I'm dropping the r&p to 4.56. I'll just keep buzzing it around with the l52 until i find some more parts.