Author Topic: have long, will travel? ok, that ia awful...seriously (Read 10057 times)

hessiankid31 · « **on:** Jul 03, 2004, 08:35:30 PM »

I have spent an ungodly ammount of time on boards, tech and vendor sites reading about this general topic. First of all, I'm a novice welder, not ascared to cut, chop, hack, grind, bend, shred, defile or otherwise modify my beloved 91 v6 Toy, as long as the experience improves her capabillity. My question is this: is anyone running a long travel IFS setup, ala Chaos, Downey or similar? If so, what is your experience, ie. benefits, detractors(bad juju)? how does it stack against SAS? I feel I understand the basic assets and detriments of factory IFS vs. SAS, I just want to get as many personal opinions as possible. Gimme testimony, can ya say AMEN! I know the SAS topic is a dessicated horse and I have taken the time to learn what I can from reading about other peoples projects. I have about a zillion questions, but I'll try to keep it under control. This is a disease, isn't it?

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #1 on:** Jul 03, 2004, 08:38:37 PM »

Look through posts made by Mr4x42u both here and on Pirates. He has the total chaos setup on his taco, that does not directly relate to you but I know he has answered many a question and asked a lot too of others that have ran their setup on 3rd gens.

SWAMPER · « **Reply #2 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 08:32:31 AM »

I would like some info too please...where can I get the info from Mr.4X42U?

Prismo · « **Reply #3 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 10:17:36 AM »

SAS is cheaper in the end. That is all

SWAMPER · « **Reply #4 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 12:52:00 PM »

Cheaper than 2 or 3 grand?

Skinny_Pedal · « **Reply #5 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 12:58:18 PM »

u can do sas for less then 2 grand

SWAMPER · « **Reply #6 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 01:03:03 PM »

Where or who...because thats what theyve quoted me and for certain that I dont know how to fabricate my SA!!!

94toytruck · « **Reply #7 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 08:33:17 PM »

i have downey high travel kit on mine.94 toy still t-bar setup.10.5 whopping inchs of travel.first off downey says you need alot of other stuff like shocks and towers.thats a load of bs.i got same travel with some bolt on shocks.second i been replacing ball joints constantly since i put his in.3rg massive amounts of torque through the wheels causes suspension to go way up in ft and toe goes way in.basicly well im cutting it out.its not been in that long ive went through 3 sets of upper and lower balljoints and a bunch off idler arms bent a pitman arm.control arm mounts are bent back.ifs isnt worht investing in if your serious about wheeling.now if your into long fast dirt roads go for it.personal opinion cut it out use it as a anchor cause it aint much good for anything else.

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #8 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 08:36:19 PM »

SWAMPER · « **Reply #9 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 08:52:49 PM »

Note taken....SAS it is...hey WT you help me out with my SAS?

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #10 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 08:53:53 PM »

Ill be here if you got cash and parts.

KYOTA · « **Reply #11 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 08:57:42 PM »

Dont forget the mountain spew!

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #12 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 08:58:36 PM »

LOL yup cant forget the life blood!

SWAMPER · « **Reply #13 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 09:00:03 PM »

Ok so a 12 pack of MD, parts...and how much

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #14 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 09:01:39 PM »

Absolute minimum $750 + all expenses. Pop, beer and smokes are considered expenses

KYOTA · « **Reply #15 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 09:03:49 PM »

The pop beer and smokes will out surpass the $750

brainlessfool · « **Reply #16 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 09:05:16 PM »

Quote from: WHITE_TRASH on Jul 05, 2004, 09:01:39 PM

Pop, beer and smokes are considered expenses

Well DUD!

swampy you'd better make a run to big lots before you head up that way!

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #17 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 09:08:27 PM »

I just might need your liver, I think I killed most of mine in Highschool so I could probobly use another.....

brainlessfool · « **Reply #18 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 09:15:34 PM »

better cough up a lung too!

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #19 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 09:16:15 PM »

Or two!

SWAMPER · « **Reply #20 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 09:18:52 PM »

so really +750?

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #21 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 09:24:26 PM »

Sure I can do it in a weekend easily if all the parts are right there in front of me.

SWAMPER · « **Reply #22 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 09:27:24 PM »

Well I would really consider it if you lived close by

How long would it take me to drive over there?

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #23 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 09:33:09 PM »

www.mapquest.com 99350 is the destination

Hyena · « **Reply #24 on:** Jul 05, 2004, 09:35:59 PM »

Lets look at this. SAS swap-how much it will cost about.

usable straight axle = $250 about 250
cross member with spring mounts- home made = $70 about 70
shocks = $80 about 80
springs = anyware from free to above $200 200
driveline = anyware from free to $200 200
shackles = $50 about 50
steering - highsteer = $400 about 400
bolts = $20 about 20
1270 about

Well less then 2 grand of done buy yourself. All prices are approximate.
Or you could use straight axle conversion kits and still be less then $1500.

hessiankid31 · « **Reply #25 on:** Jul 06, 2004, 01:19:40 PM »

Where is Prosser WA? Close to Spocompton? So, when you guys all die from cirrhosis and lung disease, can I have your trucks?

Seriously, thanks for the input. Sounds like SAS is the way to go and thats what I was kinda hoping for anyway. I picked up my front donor axle this AM AND an 8000lb winch, for 75$ from this old guy's rotten 82 truck. I wanted the whole thing, but no rear axle and no trailer available. Winch is labeled "Chicago", never heard of it, but hey, price was right. I'm tearing the winch down now. I think it's just the solenoid, cause no initial current. Anyway, I'm rambling. I will not attempt the actual swap until I have some more welding JUJU, but will get the donor stripped and totally rebuilt in the meantime. I don't think I'd pay someone to do the SAS even if I wasn't a too po' ta die school teacher. I'd sure like to have someone like White Trash looking over my shoulder, guzzling Dew, but I want to learn how to do the whole thing myself. I have never seen an SAS around here and I could corner the market!

SWAMPER · « **Reply #26 on:** Jul 06, 2004, 01:33:28 PM »

Yeah well likewise here....I rather learn than have someone do it for me...but I dont know anyone here so thats why I was thinking of having it done

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #27 on:** Jul 06, 2004, 01:46:22 PM »

Thats it lil swamper. Ive been trying my damned hardest to stay the nice cool calm and collective person that i always am but now you gone and done it. Is there really any reason that you see fit to post your useless drivel all over the board? If you have questions great ask away, but you very rarely ask questions you just post useless crap that has nothing to do with tech. This is a tech board as a rule and it would be nice if we could more or less keep it that way. If you want to have your little conversations somewhere go right ahead and do it. But keep it in the off topic forum!! Dont just post this nonsensical crap all over the place please! I have nothing against you asking questions but everytime I come here all I see is that the last post in almost everytopic is by you and there is never anything of interist in your posts. you have been here just a couple of months and you have already gotten up to over 800 posts. I could count the posts that are worth keeping on one hand! So please dont feel like you are required to respond to everypost on the board. Especially when it says Paging white trash-just the one guy, no tall the rest. Do you think he typed that because he was bored? No he wanted me to respond not everyone else, but you saw fit to respond anyway, I just dont get it.

SWAMPER · « **Reply #28 on:** Jul 06, 2004, 02:00:38 PM »

Well WT Im sorry you see it that way, I may not be mechanicly inclined as yourself but thats why Im here and belive it or not I have learned a thing or two since Ive been on the bored....I even learned something from you, I will continue posting as much as I desire because I can...and hopefully one day Ill know a thing or two about trucks I am sorry I botherd you, but thanks for telling me.

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #29 on:** Jul 06, 2004, 02:08:21 PM »

It cool that you are trying to learn I respect that. But the thread jacking is getting rediculous.

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