They are the ones in avatar pic. pm me your email and I will email you some pics. Or if you are coming to Redding any time soon, stop by and see them. The near future is as soon as I can get my tires mounted on my other wheels. bs is probably about 4" from the rear of the wheel, to the mounting surface. If you see an older Chevy with 6 lug rallies, check them out, they will be the same.