Topic: 22re to carb

[Bigbadtoy]

ok so im rebuilding the motor and i want to do away with the fuel injection and im wondering whats all involved in this swap? does the 22r intake bolt up to the re head? also i should be able to get rid of half the wires and under the hood to right any info on the swap would be more than helpful

[jimbo74]

you need the computer from a 22r, if you want to do it right

the intake will bolt up fine

is it a 22r from an 85+ or from al older 22r?

[Bigbadtoy [OP]]

motors a 91 and the intake is from and 84. also do i need the vaccum advance dist

[CRS]

yes you will need a vac dizzy. I have a 85 carb motor that I am swaping to a custom efi setup so everything i have from harness computer to igintion i is up for sale so let me know what you need. Where are you located?

[*ROKTOY*]

Why would you want to do this, FI is much better then carbed.

[Bigbadtoy [OP]]

well i dunno if im gonna for sure just yet gotta think about it

[*ROKTOY*]

I would think long and hard weigh the pros and cons.

[ontherocks]

why would you want to go carb? 22rs dont like to start on hills

[jimbo74]

as a suggestion i would keep the fi if it has it now unless there is some reason your fi is broken beyond repair... most with carbs want fuel injection
i have had good luck with my carb, and it has only once ever given me an issue on a steep hill that i was sideways on and shouldnt have been there in the first place

[DeMented Toys]

I just swapped a non EFI wiring harness into a 94 PU.  I run a Weber carb setup.  I have a 92 PU which is sort of my daily driver (kinda leaning toward a pre-runner project) too with a 22RE and it seems like something is going wrong with it every week, and it is alot more complicated to mess with.  With my other truck, the weber carb setup works good.  It starts when I turn the key and runs strong.  Haven't had any problems with it so far.  It's alot simpler to mess with.  Depending on what year cab you have, and what year carbed wiring harness, some of the plugs are different.  Like the temp controls, ect.  But it dosen't take long to swap the wiring harness.  and the important stuff, like ignition plugs, plug right in...  I think it all depends on how the truck is going to be used.  I don't do much extreme angle stuff, so for my application the weber setup works great.

[ontherocks]

some sware by 22rs, some sware by res, i like res, i have a 3.0 and its cool 4 the power but i would strongly suggest keeping the fi

[ontherocks]

i want a 22re but i got too much money in my 3.0, u have so many options, take advantage of it

[Thumper]

ha thats the funnyest thing ive heard in along time u said 3.0 and power in the same sentence, there aint no power in 3slows, sorry too get off subject just thought it was funny. ive got a 3.0 runner and i hate it 3.4 is soooo much better,
Id deff stay with your injection they may be a lil sluggish on bottom end but being able too run at any angle is way worth it, i need too swap myne over just been too lazy.
good luck on your decision.
adam

[ontherocks]

i got some money in it, u just gotta work with em. my buddys got a 3.0 that absolutely smashed a 3.4 in a drag race, and the 3.4 had some goodies too. u just gotta know what ur doin.

[Goose]

 

my buddys got a 3.0 that absolutely smashed a 3.4 in a drag race, and the 3.4 had some goodies too. u just gotta know what ur doin.

[Plekto]

I'd like to add that having had a few cars with carbs, there's a major problem with them:

There are three different variables to optimize for:
1:Lean/Rich (economy and elevation)
2:Hot/Cold weather (air density)
3:Optimized for low or high rpms.

As you can imagine, most of the time you aren't running where it was tuned for.  Cold or rainy day? Bzzzt.  Blazing hot desert?  Nope.  Up in the mountains? Want good fuel economy?  bzzt - can't without nerfing performance...

As a result, they run worse than FI 60% of the time and way better than FI 20% of the time(when everything is like when it was set up).  The other 20% it runs like it's got something wrong with it - plain awful.  I got tired of the constant tweaking and now will only buy a FI car.   

[Goose]

good info Plekto...
Performance and fuel economy aside, Toyota truck carbs are strange buggers...
Ive seen some of them have problems pulling a small hill without sputtering,
and yet others laying on their sides, 4 tire fire, bangin around in a ditch...
I swear they got a mind of their own sometimes...

[ontherocks]

yup goose, you r the 3.0, call me when you get back in town

[ontherocks]

oh, and goose is the one with the bad ass 3.0, the one with the hot girls in front of it.