Topic: How much longer can we accept this?

[toyrunner87]

 

You will not see this heart-stopping photo on the front
page of the NY Times or on the lead story of the major news networks.
The protestors put up the Mexican flag over the American flag flying
upside down at Montebello High School in California .


















I predict this stunt will be the nail in the coffin of
any guest-worker/amnesty plan on the table in Washington. The image of
the American flag subsumed to another and turned upside down on American
soil, is already spreading on Internet forums and via E-mail.

       Pass this along to every American citizen in your
address books and to every representative in the state and federal
government. If you choose to remain uninvolved, do not be amazed when
you no longer have a nation to call your own nor anything you have
worked for left since it will be "redistributed" to the activists while
you are so peacefully staying out of the "fray". Check history, it is
full of nations/empires that disappeared when its citizens no longer
held their core beli efs and values. One person CAN make a difference.
One plus one plus one plus one plus one plus one.........

       The battle for our secure borders and immigration laws
that actually mean something, however, hasn't even begun.

       If this ticks YOU off... PASS IT ON

 

[MiniSimp]

Old news.
http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/mexicoflag.asp

[NT-OUTBACK]

I'm all for fortifying the borders of America.
I'm all for denying work VISAS
I'm all for deporting those who are here illegally.
I think it was disgraceful what they did with the flag.


The biggest problem I see is an increasing amount of ignorance and intolerance towards people who are here LEGALLY and are Hispanic. Sometimes when I read comment on news stories where a suspect or what ever has a traditional Hispanic last name, must of the ignorant folks automatically assume ILLEGAL and spout off some of the most ignorant, hateful crap I have ever seen.

[iNfErNaL]

I'm all for fortifying the borders of America.
I'm all for denying work VISAS
I'm all for deporting those who are here illegally.
I think it was disgraceful what they did with the flag.


The biggest problem I see is an increasing amount of ignorance and intolerance towards people who are here LEGALLY and are Hispanic. Sometimes when I read comment on news stories where a suspect or what ever has a traditional Hispanic last name, must of the ignorant folks automatically assume ILLEGAL and spout off some of the most ignorant, hateful crap I have ever seen.

Totally agree with you 100%!!!.I've been in so many e-fights over this,it's ridiculous!!!.The people in the pictures ARE ignorant and have no idea what the hell they are protesting or promoting.There IS ignorance on both ends though.

[abnormaltoy]

The biggest problem I see is an increasing amount of ignorance and intolerance towards people who are here LEGALLY and are Hispanic. Sometimes when I read comment on news stories where a suspect or what ever has a traditional Hispanic last name, must of the ignorant folks automatically assume ILLEGAL and spout off some of the most ignorant, hateful crap I have ever seen.

Totally agree with you 100%!!!.I've been in so many e-fights over this,it's ridiculous!!!.The people in the pictures ARE ignorant and have no idea what the hell they are protesting or promoting.There IS ignorance on both ends though.

One thing that bothers me, other than the scope of S. 1348, is the supporters of the bill, both Democrats and Republicans, who paint the all opponents of the bill as racist.

I have just started reading the House version of immigration reform, H.R. 1645, and I like some of it better than the Senate version. Both go too far, I would rather see one bill for securing our borders and identifying all who are here illegally, whether it’s due to visa infractions or crossing our borders without regard for our laws. Once (if?) that has been achieved, and only then, a second bill to deal with deporting those (600,000 cases) already under deportation orders, future status of those here, a fool proof (we are talking about the Feds here!) identification system, employment verification, fines, etc.

I’m trying to figure out where these 12-20 MILLION illegal entrants came from…I mean the last time there was amnesty given (1986), lawmakers guaranteed that would solve the problem.

[Rocksurfer]

There were a lot of people that either were afraid or scared out of getting amnesty last time. I had to persued a couple guys at work that they wouldn't get deported for applying plus it's not an easy process there were lots of hoops to hop through and one mistake and you got denyed then there were all those immigration lawyers that just took their money and skated never completing the service, then of course tons more came over since then.

[kneedownnate]

I'm all for fortifying the borders of America.
I'm all for denying work VISAS
I'm all for deporting those who are here illegally.
I think it was disgraceful what they did with the flag.


The biggest problem I see is an increasing amount of ignorance and intolerance towards people who are here LEGALLY and are Hispanic. Sometimes when I read comment on news stories where a suspect or what ever has a traditional Hispanic last name, must of the ignorant folks automatically assume ILLEGAL and spout off some of the most ignorant, hateful crap I have ever seen.

Well said!  I still say an effective deterant would be to allow them to be shot when crossing the border.  A mass of rotting carcasses would soon prove a big hint that you're not wanted!

First one who should be popped is their president.  How dare he talk down to us for not wanting their illegals  

Send all illegals to third world countries for a year.  I'm thinking etheopia or something equally desolate

[MagPede]

“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith, becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American... There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.” - Theodore Roosevelt, 1907



So this just won't do.

[BUDDERS]

“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith, becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American... There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.” - Theodore Roosevelt, 1907



So this just won't do.

Wow, I really like Roosevelt's words.  I wish he were still around today..

[MagPede]

The biggest problem I see is an increasing amount of ignorance and intolerance towards people who are here LEGALLY and are Hispanic. Sometimes when I read comment on news stories where a suspect or what ever has a traditional Hispanic last name, must of the ignorant folks automatically assume ILLEGAL and spout off some of the most ignorant, hateful crap I have ever seen.

Hmm..reminds me of one day at work when a customer asked me if i was legal just out of the blue. Ya I'm Hispanic but even still, I was at a loss for words.

[73cjp]

IF THEY DONT LIKE THE USA GET THE HELL OUT

[V-Man]

 

   I wander if they even know that flying the flag upside down is an Military distress call.  IE radio is out, and runners can get out or in. 

[topar]

Why would the school administrators allow this to happen?

[RTA]

 

[unclejpl4x4]

This is one of the reasons i wanna move 2 NZ     if you don't have a job you can't move in

[jimbo74]

Why would the school administrators allow this to happen?

they didnt allow it, a bunch of kids from a neighboring school left their school and went to another to get the other school in trouble...


this is really old news, happend in either feb or march i think now... and its getting apssed all over as a hate for america, because of what a couple idiot young kids did.....

[topar]

Sounds like they are a couple of BIG IDIOTS!

[Geno]

they didn't allow it, a bunch of kids from a neighboring school left their school and went to another to get the other school in trouble...


this is really old news, happend in either feb or march i think now... and its getting apssed all over as a hate for america, because of what a couple idiot young kids did.....

This is old news and it was kids but it was more than a couple kids and it never should have happened.  The school these kids came from should have stopped it and the the school they did this at should have stopped it.  It might be some small school now but it will progress to higher education and others as people see crap like this.  It needs to be stopped now and there needs to be consequences so it does not happen again.

Our country has become so laxed now a days it is sickening.

[topar]

Preach on brother!  I could not agree more!! 

[NT-OUTBACK]

The sentiments with how a lot of people now feel about Hispanics is nearly the same as how people felt towards anyone from the middle east after 9/11. Regardless of ones citizen status it has now become OK to spew forth hateful, racist and just the most ignorant arguments.

The immigration debate has opened the floodgates if you will to those ignorant fools who now feel they have a platform if you will to show their true feelings.

Maybe I'm just an overly educated arrogant fool, but those illegals who choose to pick fruit, gardening build pallets, wash dishes or any of the other hellish labor jobs America has to offer are NOT A THREAT TO MY JOB SKILL SET. Who is the "real" threat to this countries future? people here in this country with work visas, India, Pakistan and China etc with higher level educations BA/BS, MA's and PhD's. These people are willing to work for nothing in some of the most advanced fields in the world.

While I cannot hold it against them, they are a threat to my economic security and my countries. The border to the U.S. does not end with Mexico, but encompasses the United States as a whole and illegals come in all colors and races.

What a lot of people don't know is our next wave of immigrants are going to be coming from? Iraq to the tune of about a million. How is that for the "spoils" of war.

Want to make America a stronger place:

Close all the borders to immigration
Ask your government to stop handing out work visas like bubblegum
Unionize
Do not vote party line
Just say no to career politicians

[toyrunner87 [OP]]

This is one of the reasons i wanna move 2 NZ     if you don't have a job you can't move in

Plus in NZ you could get he good Yota's   Landcruiser pickups over there are still solid axle, have turbo deisels and factory snorkels ad flatbeds... check out the Toyota Austrailia website sometime.

[abnormaltoy]

Plus in NZ you could get he good Yota's   Landcruiser pickups over there are still solid axle, have turbo deisels and factory snorkels ad flatbeds... check out the Toyota Austrailia website sometime.

You also have to deal with your toilets flushing backwards...I can only adapt to so much.

[TacoStewie]

i said it once and here it is again

[Rocksurfer]

   I wander if they even know that flying the flag upside down is an Military distress call.  IE radio is out, and runners can get out or in. 

Prolly not, they did it to be disrespecful and didn't even realize that placing the Mexico flag above the U.S. flag is a violation of federal law or that by flying it upsidedown is a distress signal. You can't even fly a state flag higher than the U.S.

Hmm..reminds me of one day at work when a customer asked me if i was legal just out of the blue. Ya I'm Hispanic but even still, I was at a loss for words.

I've had people ask me the same question about my employee's too, as far as I know they're all legal. At least that's what their docs. say.