Author Topic: The Official 3RZ Knowledge and Database Thread (Read 916882 times)

Wiener01 · « **Reply #1050 on:** Jul 09, 2014, 02:40:17 PM »

Saw bevin's mounts not sure how they bolt together.gonna make it happen though.

Nation · « **Reply #1051 on:** Jul 09, 2014, 04:28:50 PM »

Get Er Done!!!

stubbysr5 · « **Reply #1052 on:** Jul 10, 2014, 05:33:55 PM »

Not a tough task at all. I used Bevins mount pictures for length of plate to add to accomplish offset. Also the weld below the circle and location of the plate edge can be used to determine where your cut needs to be to remove some of the length. I used a 12" sliding square to obtain the same angle as the bottom of the bracket. The bolts that mount to the block can be used for approximate location of where your mount center bolt needs to be. Also you have another reference from the back of the alternator. Use your power steering reservoir top for level. Remember with it level you should have ten degree lean of your rocker arm cover toward the passenger side of vehicle.

Nation · « **Reply #1053 on:** Jul 10, 2014, 05:46:00 PM »

That's what I'm talking about!

UtahGuy · « **Reply #1054 on:** Jul 15, 2014, 11:49:59 AM »

Anybody run a Megasquirt on one of these yet? Hoping to compare notes and see what worked for you and where you ran into snags. I'll be running an MS1 on a 96 with distributor.

Nation · « **Reply #1055 on:** Jul 15, 2014, 12:34:24 PM »

Quote from: UtahGuy on Jul 15, 2014, 11:49:59 AM

Anybody run a Megasquirt on one of these yet? Hoping to compare notes and see what worked for you and where you ran into snags. I'll be running an MS1 on a 96 with distributor.
I will also be using Megasquirt.. I'll keep you updated

Wiener01 · « **Reply #1056 on:** Jul 15, 2014, 01:27:13 PM »

Just heard from Alex at Chilkat he apologized for no response he said he was away and would ship my mounts ASAP. Hope thats soon

MUD000 · « **Reply #1057 on:** Jul 20, 2014, 03:44:07 AM »

My mate has just completed a turbo 3rz conversion & the oil filter hit the front track mount is this a common problem & do you install a remote mount oil filter ?
Cheers Dan

Nation · « **Reply #1058 on:** Jul 20, 2014, 06:39:49 AM »

Never heard of that one. I didn't have any issues.

MUD000 · « **Reply #1059 on:** Jul 20, 2014, 10:48:30 PM »

Haven't heard anyone complain about it before but was with this one had to puta remote mount oil filter in

stubbysr5 · « **Reply #1060 on:** Jul 20, 2014, 11:29:56 PM »

Set my motor down on the mounts tonight. May have to shim the passenger side. After everything was tightened up I had a bit too much angle to the P side. I have several extra mount pieces and I may use the end of the bracket seeings as how the hole for the bolt and index pin is already there. The Tacoma donor had a pacesetter header on it and I'll use it if it fits in OK. Cost effective solution. The collector has 2 heated O2 senders but there is no cat I'm the system. I think I may put one in. At least that way the ecm had dome legitimate input
I put the w59 bell ony g series however I have to do something, for a speed sensor. The grickin exhaust is she thickwall stuff when you tap it with a wrench of sounds like school playground swing set. Not the most OK night everybody convenient stuff to work with. I'm
Posting to a thread with a smart phone is a pain in the.... yeah. Now I can finish my cab. It is amazing how similar the taco platform is to the 2nd gen pickups.

UtahGuy · « **Reply #1061 on:** Jul 24, 2014, 12:24:55 AM »

Quote from: MUD000 on Jul 20, 2014, 10:48:30 PM

Haven't heard anyone complain about it before but was with this one had to puta remote mount oil filter in

I didn't have this problem either. Do you have any pics?

UtahGuy · « **Reply #1062 on:** Jul 24, 2014, 12:26:55 AM »

Quote from: stubbysr5 on Jul 20, 2014, 11:29:56 PM

The grickin exhaust is she thickwall stuff

Quoted for truth.

Wiener01 · « **Reply #1063 on:** Jul 24, 2014, 09:03:51 AM »

Got my Chilkat design motor mount brackets-wow very nice product. Got my factory header to replace my cracked factory manifold.Oil pan,pick up and dip stick already done. Gonna start pulling my sad diesel sounding 22re this weekend.Will take some pics and post not like you guys have seen enough 3rz's in 2nd gen trucks.

FGZ · « **Reply #1064 on:** Aug 02, 2014, 08:18:35 PM »

Quote from: H8PVMNT on Jun 19, 2014, 06:25:26 AM

Swaped that ECU out, still ran like garbage. I am going to pass this on to somebody else to figure out and go carb...

So I have a Tacoma column and cluster made to fit in a a 1st gen 4runner/2nd gen pickup dash. All plugs to heater and tails etc hook right up to the older plugs. Doner harness is relatively unbutchered. I made a header for it, Amsoil filter on the intake, balance shaft delete, mild port & polish, gasket match rebuilt about 50-60K ago. Overfuels itself so somebody will have to sort it out.

I will be pulling it soon so if anybody is interested hit me up!

I was getting so excited that my several-weeks-long read through of this thread was going to culminate in such a cliffhanger solved mystery only to find you had to cut your losses and revert to carb. Sad, better luck next time.

UtahGuy · « **Reply #1065 on:** Aug 03, 2014, 05:19:18 PM »

I mentioned we decided to go with a Megasquirt - got it into a friends' shop and got started on that today. Took out the stock harness, cleaned everything unnecessary off the motor, hacked up the old burnt harness for connectors to build the new one, and got to soldering. I know a lot of you fellows are in California, so I should mention that as far as I know there's no way this would fly there. None of the emissions equipment will be functional, aside from the cat which I'm keeping until it pisses me off. I'll be bending a couple rules keeping this thing on the street here, and I'm quite sure that a California emissions ~~nazi~~ referee would take one look and laugh you out of his garage.

Set up for an afternoon of wiring.

My new wireless harness. How cool would it be to stick bluetooth transmitters on all the sensors? I wonder how long they'd last until the heat and vibration killed them.

When you are discombobulating a harness, strict and accurate labeling of the plugs is essential.

Scavenged plugs.

Used to be a harness...

The new harness will be about 26 wires, plus or minus. This is all of them in this pic, though we're going to make the connections on the Megasquirt and be sure that everything is happy before we tidy everything up. This is going to be a much cleaner engine bay, I'm stoked for that if nothing else.

The aftermath of a wiring party...

Next up we make the connections on the Megasquirt pigtail and start programming the computer. I should have some actual tech to contribute at that point.

H8PVMNT · « **Reply #1066 on:** Aug 04, 2014, 07:41:53 AM »

Quote from: FGZ on Aug 02, 2014, 08:18:35 PM

I was getting so excited that my several-weeks-long read through of this thread was going to culminate in such a cliffhanger solved mystery only to find you had to cut your losses and revert to carb. Sad, better luck next time.

Well a forum member with more access to good scan equipment and parts bought my whole setup so hopefully we will get to see whatever is causing the problem. I'm sure it will be something dumb and nearly insignificant. The 3RZ is a great engine. When I had it running right it got up to 26 mpg, pulled hills and trailors with ease and could bark second gear on dry pavement with 35s. I just don't have the time or resources to fool with mystery glitches. We have like NO parts trucks around here either which makes trying things out costly.

stubbysr5 · « **Reply #1067 on:** Aug 04, 2014, 11:30:46 PM »

Quote from: stubbysr5 on Jul 20, 2014, 11:29:56 PM

Set my motor down on the mounts tonight. May have to shim the passenger side. After everything was tightened up I had a bit too much angle to the P side. I have several extra mount pieces and I may use the end of the bracket seeings as how the hole for the bolt and index pin is already there. The Tacoma donor had a pacesetter header on it and I'll use it if it fits in OK. Cost effective solution. The collector has 2 heated O2 senders but there is no cat I'm the system. I think I may put one in. At least that way the ecm had dome legitimate input
I put the w59 bell ony g series however I have to do something, for a speed sensor. The grickin exhaust is she thickwall stuff when you tap it with a wrench of sounds like school playground swing set. Not the most OK night everybody convenient stuff to work with. I'm
Posting to a thread with a smart phone is a pain in the.... yeah. Now I can finish my cab. It is amazing how similar the taco platform is to the 2nd gen pickups.

fired it up Sunday pm. Just what the doctor ordered. People are right it is a rev happy motor. Now for exhaust and heat management. I will rework my clutch line so it will easy bleed. Loud wi. Uncapped header.

Wiener01 · « **Reply #1068 on:** Aug 05, 2014, 07:16:16 AM »

Well mine is in, borrowed a buddies tow truck and pulled the 22re out in an hour and a half. Swapped the bell housing and planted the 3rz in its new home. Now I need to start working on the details,got a list a page long. One question that I did not see covered it looks like I might have clearance issues at the front lift hook and ps resivour cap. Any one else?

UtahGuy · « **Reply #1069 on:** Aug 05, 2014, 07:34:38 AM »

Quote from: Wiener01 on Aug 05, 2014, 07:16:16 AM

Well mine is in, borrowed a buddies tow truck and pulled the 22re out in an hour and a half. Swapped the bell housing and planted the 3rz in its new home. Now I need to start working on the details,got a list a page long. One question that I did not see covered it looks like I might have clearance issues at the front lift hook and ps resivour cap. Any one else?

It's tight but should clear. What are you using for mounts?

Wiener01 · « **Reply #1070 on:** Aug 05, 2014, 10:14:31 AM »

Using a set of Chilkat brackets and factory taco mounts

Wiener01 · « **Reply #1071 on:** Aug 06, 2014, 06:03:04 PM »

So my 3rz is in, radiator,hoses,all the easy stuff done. Now I need to do the exhaust and wiring. I don't think I am going to have a problem with either but. I am installing a 96 3rz into a 85 22re 4runner, any one got a diagram i can copy and use or a link. have to connect 1 ecm connector,1 obd connector,2 taco connectors and 2 old runner connectors. I will roll up my sleeves and map it out my self but if some one already did the work I'm willing to cheat. Thanks

n6dlh · « **Reply #1072 on:** Aug 16, 2014, 10:01:12 PM »

Labor day weekend the swap is on. Custom oil pan is done and waiting on some additional parts.

To clear the ifs, the factory front sump pan was cut at the flange and turned 180 degrees, then a large portion was cut out and sheet metal added to clear the pickup. Using the t100 pickup and dipstick. Total capacity is 6 qts to the top of the cross hatching. Final test will be when it drops in, i think i will have plenty of room, but if not i will have to find a way to work around it.

All in all i have a ton of hours in cleanup, and probobly 20 hours of time into the oil pan. Will be building the entire exhaust 2.25", with magna flow muffler and cat. New aisin clutch kit, slave, and 02 sensors. Intake was made from 3" exhaust tube. The 90 degree bend is not the best for air flow but will work until i get the turbo for the engine.

Wiener01 · « **Reply #1073 on:** Aug 17, 2014, 05:26:26 AM »

Well its official I have a 3rz powered 4runner. What nice engine, now my truck has plenty of power. Well worth all the time and work.

UtahGuy · « **Reply #1074 on:** Aug 17, 2014, 07:17:44 AM »

Quote from: n6dlh on Aug 16, 2014, 10:01:12 PM

Labor day weekend the swap is on. Custom oil pan is done and waiting on some additional parts.

To clear the ifs, the factory front sump pan was cut at the flange and turned 180 degrees, then a large portion was cut out and sheet metal added to clear the pickup. Using the t100 pickup and dipstick. Total capacity is 6 qts to the top of the cross hatching. Final test will be when it drops in, i think i will have plenty of room, but if not i will have to find a way to work around it.

All in all i have a ton of hours in cleanup, and probobly 20 hours of time into the oil pan. Will be building the entire exhaust 2.25", with magna flow muffler and cat. New aisin clutch kit, slave, and 02 sensors. Intake was made from 3" exhaust tube. The 90 degree bend is not the best for air flow but will work until i get the turbo for the engine.

What paint is that on your intake and valve cover? I like that.

n6dlh · « **Reply #1075 on:** Aug 17, 2014, 07:34:44 AM »

Quote from: UtahGuy on Aug 17, 2014, 07:17:44 AM

What paint is that on your intake and valve cover? I like that.

VHT wrinkle finish paint. Looks really good, but has a learning curve to get it to wrinkle correctly.

n6dlh · « **Reply #1076 on:** Aug 30, 2014, 06:30:57 PM »

After a long day I made some progress. Ran into some clearance issues I was not expecting, and did not run into much where I was expecting them. The oil pan fit like a glove, with only millimeters to spare, I really lucked out on the pan. The pan did hit the steering stabilizer, so I will have to build a bracket to drop it an inch. One unexpected problem was my Budbuilt cross member, I have the 2" drivetrain lift cross member. Since the 3rz is canted, it rotated my transfer case, and it was hitting the cross member, so I had to build some spacers, and get some bolts. So I will be rolling around without my skid plate until I get the right type of bolts. I was also going to use my AC compressor and change the clutch, well mine is too long and hits the motor mount, so I will have to get a new compressor for it.

Still have a lot to do, but the drive train is buttoned up, going to do some more hoses, clutch lines, down pipe, and wiring. Hope to fire it up for a short time tomorrow, then move on to fabricating the exhaust.

m44offroad · « **Reply #1077 on:** Aug 30, 2014, 06:56:07 PM »

Quote from: n6dlh on Aug 30, 2014, 06:30:57 PM

After a long day I made some progress. Ran into some clearance issues I was not expecting, and did not run into much where I was expecting them. The oil pan fit like a glove, with only millimeters to spare, I really lucked out on the pan. The pan did hit the steering stabilizer, so I will have to build a bracket to drop it an inch. One unexpected problem was my Budbuilt cross member, I have the 2" drivetrain lift cross member. Since the 3rz is canted, it rotated my transfer case, and it was hitting the cross member, so I had to build some spacers, and get some bolts. So I will be rolling around without my skid plate until I get the right type of bolts. I was also going to use my AC compressor and change the clutch, well mine is too long and hits the motor mount, so I will have to get a new compressor for it.

Still have a lot to do, but the drive train is buttoned up, going to do some more hoses, clutch lines, down pipe, and wiring. Hope to fire it up for a short time tomorrow, then move on to fabricating the exhaust.

I'm curious what mounts your running? The canted motor sounds a little too farmiliar also what angle is the power steering cap at in relation to the frame?

m44offroad · « **Reply #1078 on:** Aug 30, 2014, 07:22:16 PM »

N6DLH, I did this swap about 2 1/2 years ago and in a bit of a rush failed to pay attention to some of the finer details, the canted engine (almost 4 degrees rotated to the pass side measured on the power steering cap, 1 degree to the pass side is level at the transfer case mount) never really seemed like a big issue until the factory transmission mount failed and the transfer case began hitting the cross member, after the factory mount failed about 4 months ago I replaced the engine and transfer case mounts with t**** g*** mounts and installed a bud built single case cross member and on installation found a good 2 inch difference as I was jacking the cross member back up under the truck, at this point I realized what was wrong have spent the little time I have away from work trying to correct this and other issues, seeing your post about the canted engine and rotated transfer case I have to wonder if the problem is the same.

n6dlh · « **Reply #1079 on:** Aug 31, 2014, 04:24:22 AM »

Quote from: m44offroad on Aug 30, 2014, 06:56:07 PM

I'm curious what mounts your running? The canted motor sounds a little too farmiliar also what angle is the power steering cap at in relation to the frame?

The cap is level, im running the chilkat mount brackets. Im going to look at it a littlemore this morning.

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