Topic: alternative steering

[dune_it86]

i have a 86 ex cab toy sas is all in place, except for steering i will not pay for a cross over for a mud truck, it isnt tall enough nor does it flex enough to use it so i need to know what other steering options are there not a street truck my yard only doesnt matter if it is oaky and serious reply will help thank you

[dj]

you could run the original stuff from 79-85 but crossover would be easier if you want the factory stufff I can hook you up with a box, frame bracket and dropped drag link made for a lifted truck 80$ plus shipping

[S-10 Stewy]

DJ... if he does not want it I might take it.  I have been looking for those parts to put on my S-10... is the box in good condition?  Is it an IFS box?  How much of a drop on the arm?

S-10 Stewy

[dj]

DJ... if he does not want it I might take it.  I have been looking for those parts to put on my S-10... is the box in good condition?  Is it an IFS box?  How much of a drop on the arm?

S-10 Stewy

no it is the factory straight axle box he doesn't want a crossover system, If you want a ifs box, I have a friend who sells them for $100 each in good working condition.

[dune_it86 [OP]]

i saw one cross over that used the stock steering arms that were cut flipped over and rewelded it is no    job but it isnt going to be a mud rig no street not a whole lot of flwex either post any old school or hobart ideas need some thing  the mud is getting perfect almost took my tacoma in to it today

[Uncle Jesse]

maybe you can find one of those original double arms for the crossover.  It is the same as the cut and welded arm you are talking about, except it's made that way, not welded.  Then all you would need is a draglink.  Use the stock solid axle tie rod and the stock solid axle drivers steering arm but with the "J" portion cut off.

Something like this, although this one is welded:
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/CrossoverSteering/CrossOver1.jpg

here is the picture I was looking for:
http://bigballsoffroad.com/prod455.htm
Obvisously though, a cheaper price would be nice.

[S-10 Stewy]

Dune it, that is what I did to mine, cut them off, flipped over and then traded sides.  This puts the tie rod on top of the arm, giving you even a little more of a high steer.  Mine arms are welded "up wards" a fair amount, nearly 4" above a traditional high steer arm.  I did this so my drag link did not have a massive downward angle. 

Then, if you use a tie rod end from an IFS, one that is approx 8" long it has a 1/2 hole (or close to) formed into it for the steering stabilizer.  I took that end down to a machine shop and had them put a taper on it to match the Toy rod ends.  I used this piece on the P-side and that is what my drag link ties to.  Crossover, high steer for under $200.00, including the machine shop bill.  Has worked flawlessly for almost 4 yrs now.

[dune_it86 [OP]]

love the info if you have pics that would be great if not do a step by step on what you did please thenks man your awsome hope to be muddin soon    it is great when a little bit of fab work can save you a crap ton of money. it may not look prtty but it sure does work

[S-10 Stewy]

I will take some pic's, download them and post em.  May take me a few days so hang tight.

S-10 stewy