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Re: Help on fluids
« Reply #30 on: Oct 18, 2019, 04:33:02 AM »
I did my 83 with royal purple because it was given to me. I honestly cant tell a difference it isnt any quieter or smoother shifting.
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Re: Help on fluids
« Reply #31 on: Oct 19, 2019, 07:14:35 AM »
Royal Purple makes good stuff…. Very expensive compared to other synthetics, like Mobil 1.  1 quart of RP gear lube is $100!!.... 1 quart of Mobil 1 is $13.00

If I were living in an extremely cold climate, I’d be running all synthetics… gear oil, auto transmission, motor oil, wheel bearing and driveline lube.

The only real advantage with synthetics is they flow better at very lower ambient temperatures.  So getting a little better lubrication during the most critical time needed…. Cold starts would be an advantage over conventional lubricants in terms of potential wear factors.

Now.. how much difference will it make?..... Your drive train probably will not be able to let you know.  Engine , drive train, differential, or U-joint failure is rare where failure can be attributed to a specific lubricant if maintenance is performed by the factory recommendations, or according to application.

If I ran synthetics to replace conventional dino lubricant, I would buy Mobil 1 products.

Using Royal Purple may make you feel better psychologically, but it will definitely put a little Purple ding in your checking account.

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Re: Help on fluids
« Reply #32 on: Oct 21, 2019, 07:19:16 PM »
I was thinking of replacing all the drivetrain fluids in my 90 4x4 with Royal Purple.  Anyone have input on pros / cons for doing this?

What are you hoping to gain?  It’s good quality oil, you’ll likely never know the difference between it and a more affordable quality brand oil.
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Re: Help on fluids
« Reply #33 on: Feb 09, 2022, 08:39:20 AM »
I personally would run 75 90 in the diffs if the truck is only daily and depending on how often you go to the trials up to 75w140. It's what the guys over at Arb recommend for their lockers.

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Re: Help on fluids
« Reply #34 on: Feb 21, 2022, 04:06:32 AM »
Here's an interesting comparison for gear lubricants....

https://bestsyntheticoilguide.com/synthetic/best-gear-lubricant/

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Re: Help on fluids
« Reply #35 on: Feb 21, 2022, 04:12:23 AM »
I personally would run 75 90 in the diffs if the truck is only daily and depending on how often you go to the trials up to 75w140. It's what the guys over at Arb recommend for their lockers.

This right off ARB's website...   https://arbusa.com/faqs/#faq-3265#gear%20oil


"WHAT DIFFERENTIAL OIL IS REQUIRED FOR ARB AIR LOCKERS?

We recommend following your vehicle users manual for the quality and viscosity. We DO NOT suggest any oils with limited-slip additives as they can shorten the life of the ARB Air Locker seals."



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Re: Help on fluids
« Reply #36 on: Feb 21, 2022, 04:29:28 AM »
Royal Purple makes good stuff…. Very expensive compared to other synthetics, like Mobil 1.  1 quart of RP gear lube is $100!!.... 1 quart of Mobil 1 is $13.00

If I were living in an extremely cold climate, I’d be running all synthetics… gear oil, auto transmission, motor oil, wheel bearing and driveline lube.

The only real advantage with synthetics is they flow better at very lower ambient temperatures.  So getting a little better lubrication during the most critical time needed…. Cold starts would be an advantage over conventional lubricants in terms of potential wear factors.

Now.. how much difference will it make?..... Your drive train probably will not be able to let you know.  Engine , drive train, differential, or U-joint failure is rare where failure can be attributed to a specific lubricant if maintenance is performed by the factory recommendations, or according to application.

If I ran synthetics to replace conventional dino lubricant, I would buy Mobil 1 products.

Using Royal Purple may make you feel better psychologically, but it will definitely put a little Purple ding in your checking account.

Gnarls.




Wow. Royal purple is expensive where you live. I pay 15.99 a quart. That's from summit racing 75w90
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Re: Help on fluids
« Reply #37 on: Feb 21, 2022, 05:26:20 AM »
Wow. Royal purple is expensive where you live. I pay 15.99 a quart. That's from summit racing 75w90

Hey O...

You know I read that in my post ($100 per quart), and I honestly don't know where that price came from? :dunno:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/1-Quart-Royal-Purple-Max-Gear-75W90-Synthetic-Gear-Oil/117301285?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101057288&adid=22222222222042925281&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=o&wl2=c&wl3=17606143341&wl4=pla-4578916239613875&wl5=&wl6=&wl7=&wl10=Walmart&wl11=Online&wl12=117301285_10001076662&wl14=Royal%20Purple%20Gear%20Lube%20prices&veh=sem&msclkid=d361d60706001d1b7a63b414979cdf45

I suspect I pulled it off a quick price check and didn't notice the quantity?? :smack:

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Royal+Purple+Gear+lube&i=automotive&ref=nb_sb_noss

It looks like the price per quart is in the $15 range. :thumbs:

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Re: Help on fluids
« Reply #38 on: Feb 21, 2022, 05:47:42 PM »
What do you guys think about East Coast Gear Supply saying "Royal Purple: in our opinion one of the worst gear oils made" ? https://eastcoastgearsupply.com/ft-2536-ecgs-gear-oil-recommendation.html

I keep wondering if  a synthetic in the rear diff, trans/tcase would be a good idea for me. To help keep things cool on long highway drives, running hard over a mountain pass on 35s. Keep thinking about redline but I'm worried about changing things up in a high mileage transmission. So I just keep using valvoline non synthetic
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Re: Help on fluids
« Reply #39 on: Feb 21, 2022, 06:26:54 PM »
The benefit of synthetic for me has been much longer longevity for the diffs & trans/transfers.
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Re: Help on fluids
« Reply #40 on: Feb 21, 2022, 06:39:38 PM »
The ECGS, as typical, provides ZERO proof of any of their statements.

Royal Purple, Amsoil, and Lucas gear lube meet all the same specs.

The advantage to synthetics is primarily better lubrication at cold temperatures, when usually the most wear factor occurs.

The top automotive racing organizations in the world use synthetics.... WHY?

If you change your gear oil according the manufacturer's recommendations, whether you use dino or synthetic, your diff will not know the difference.

When was the last time you read or heard.... "Oh crap! My diff wore out!"

Component failure due to lubrication properties is practically non-existent.

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Re: Help on fluids
« Reply #41 on: Feb 23, 2022, 04:35:16 AM »
Probably would be fine to run non synth and just change it out every second oil change.
Could also run a cooler for your transmission
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Re: Help on fluids
« Reply #42 on: Jun 10, 2022, 04:46:37 PM »
Royal Purple, Amsoil, and Lucas gear lube meet all the same specs.

The advantage to synthetics is primarily better lubrication at cold temperatures, when usually the most wear factor occurs.
Gnarls :usa:  - that's just my opinion - it may be worthless.  :gap:

Cold weather? yup describes nine months of the year here.. It's June 10th and it going to be 10 to 15 degrees C tonight( 50 to 59 F)

Motor kote seems to help no matter your oil choice. Does not mix with the oil, but bonds to wear on components.


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Re: Help on fluids
« Reply #43 on: Jun 11, 2022, 05:32:57 AM »
Cold weather? yup describes nine months of the year here.. It's June 10th and it going to be 10 to 15 degrees C tonight( 50 to 59 F)

Motor kote seems to help no matter your oil choice. Does not mix with the oil, but bonds to wear on components.



Motor oil additives...  that topic is deep and wide. :gap:

There are a number of highly touted additives.... MotorKote, STP Ceramic, Rislone, etc., etc.

I've only tried one in my earlier "experimental days", and it blew up a $5,000 Toyota Supra engine. :yikes:

But... there are lots of testimonials out there that they really work.  :dunno:

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