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***Advanced Axle ID Gurus Needed !***
« on: Aug 10, 2005, 01:16:07 AM »
Hello,

I dont want to bias you with my opinions and what others have told me. So you just have to work out from these pictures:
 























Thanks ! :bowdown: And, if you know a BB that handle these questions better - please tell..

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Re: ***Advanced Axle ID Gurus Needed !***
« Reply #1 on: Aug 10, 2005, 01:39:46 AM »
That screams of dana, judging by the diff cover its dana 25, 27 or dana 30 but the fact that its 6 lug and has Aisin hubs is interesting to say the least.  It looks to be disc brake too, is it?

On the right side of the diff casting next to the diff cover bolt just under the axle tube centerli9ne there should be a number cast into it.  What is that number?
Full hydro, 186:1 with an auto and 44's what could go wrong??

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Re: ***Advanced Axle ID Gurus Needed !***
« Reply #2 on: Aug 10, 2005, 06:03:51 AM »
Looks like a dana 30.  It could have six lug rotors swapped in off of an isuzu??  Did they use aisin hubs??   That wheel doesn't seem to set ontp the hub very well.  I have never seen a yoke like that.  Open knuckle, steering box inside the frame, crossover steering.  It's in a Jeep 5 or 7 by the looks of the front bumper and the shackles towards the front.  Strange.
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Re: ***Advanced Axle ID Gurus Needed !***
« Reply #3 on: Aug 10, 2005, 06:19:03 AM »
The Jeep grill in the 2nd to last pic kind of tells us it's a Jeep.

And 6 bolt locking hubs were used on Dana 30s from 1970-80.
Drum brakes were used until 1976.
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Re: ***Advanced Axle ID Gurus Needed !***
« Reply #4 on: Aug 10, 2005, 06:37:44 AM »
Yes its disc braked. Sorry the rig is thousands of miles away from me, so getting anymore of it isnt easy. Do you mean the BOM # ? What exactly is that number ? I guess its ball joint ?
Okay then, its a Korean Jeep CJ8-copy from 1989, I think. People keep saying its a D44-copy with Isuzu components inside, other says its a plain D44. But I to have started to think D30, I hope it isnt one though. Try to get every aspect of it, compare size of axle tubes etc. - Im really curious about it..

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Re: ***Advanced Axle ID Gurus Needed !***
« Reply #5 on: Aug 10, 2005, 06:41:40 AM »
Is the Aisinhubs strong ??

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Re: ***Advanced Axle ID Gurus Needed !***
« Reply #6 on: Aug 10, 2005, 06:48:35 AM »
It doesn't look like a 44 cover isn't the same mold as a 44, the Aisin hubs are strong from what I understand, and I would say 30 as well.  I almost positive its not a 44.  Are you thinking of buying it or are you just curious what it is?

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Re: ***Advanced Axle ID Gurus Needed !***
« Reply #7 on: Aug 10, 2005, 09:06:18 AM »
It doesn't look like a 44 cover isn't the same mold as a 44, the Aisin hubs are strong from what I understand, and I would say 30 as well.  I almost positive its not a 44.  Are you thinking of buying it or are you just curious what it is?

Actually its been mine for a while now, and Im thinking of starting a building it up in the future..

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Re: ***Advanced Axle ID Gurus Needed !***
« Reply #8 on: Aug 10, 2005, 11:26:52 AM »
So its a knockoff that explains a lot.  Its a dana 30 Ill guarantee it all things considered.  THe rear end may be a dana44 but not the front.  That'd be a fun project to say the least.
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« Reply #9 on: Aug 10, 2005, 04:18:27 PM »
I agree with WT, dana 30.  An as for those hubs, Toyotas come stock with them and I have gone thru three on my 4runner with 31" tires You tell me if their strong.
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Re: ***Advanced Axle ID Gurus Needed !***
« Reply #10 on: Aug 11, 2005, 02:22:18 AM »
Thats what i feared. But they cant be that bad ? slap some spicer 297 (sp?) joints in and they might handle 35s - maybe not if the hubs cant handle 31s, though ? Looks like a high steer isnt to impossible ?

Can someone show me the difference between a ball-joint and king-pin axle. Pros and cons ? Just of curoisity. The above is BL ?

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Re: ***Advanced Axle ID Gurus Needed !***
« Reply #11 on: Aug 11, 2005, 02:31:58 AM »
I have yet to bust a hub and Im running 38.5's with a heavy foot.  Dont worry about the hubs they'll hold.

If thats the same as a earlier model 30 I *think* you can put dana44 knuckles on it and use flattops for hi-steer. 

Ball joints are nice but they tend to wear more than kingpin setups.  King pins are by design much stronger but you'll be fine with ball joints.
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« Reply #12 on: Aug 11, 2005, 02:55:14 AM »
I would prefer swapping a full D44, what is "flattops" ? Do you have pics of BL vs KP axles, i cant picture it in my head.. Thank you WT, you have been very helpful !


Over to this: Its the rear end, Im crossing my fingers for it beeing a 44. What do you think..












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Re: ***Advanced Axle ID Gurus Needed !***
« Reply #13 on: Aug 11, 2005, 03:09:07 AM »
A king pin front end is like a factory toyota front end.  Instead of pressed together ball joint they have bearings for the steering knuckles.

Flat top knuckles are available on most 73-80 Chevy Dana 44's they are everywhere.

Its hard to tell from those pics but that could be a dana 44.  Its got the right number of diff cover bolts at least. :greengrin:
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Re: ***Advanced Axle ID Gurus Needed !***
« Reply #14 on: Aug 11, 2005, 04:03:37 AM »
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Its hard to tell from those pics but that could be a dana 44.  Its got the right number of diff cover bolts at least.

So what other things can make it a 44 ? Pinion ? thanks .

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Re: ***Advanced Axle ID Gurus Needed !***
« Reply #15 on: Aug 13, 2005, 08:50:15 AM »
I agree with WT, dana 30.  An as for those hubs, Toyotas come stock with them and I have gone thru three on my 4runner with 31" tires You tell me if their strong.
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« Reply #16 on: Aug 13, 2005, 08:59:30 AM »
I dont know why they keep breaking,  I dont let it hop when wheeling they just go boom.  The first two sets were used and i thought thats why they were going out so I bought some brand new hubs but they are going out now too

       Post a better pic of the rear axle, back side so we can see the diff cover.  Also if you have the rig that there under it might help if we knew what it was, Year, model...?
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« Reply #17 on: Aug 13, 2005, 09:05:26 AM »
I dont know why they keep breaking,  I dont let it hop when wheeling they just go boom.  The first two sets were used and i thought thats why they were going out so I bought some brand new hubs but they are going out now too

       Post a better pic of the rear axle, back side so we can see the diff cover.  Also if you have the rig that there under it might help if we knew what it was, Year, model...?

 I would like to see pics,Do you still have the 2 dowell pins with the studs coming off Main Hub?
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Re: ***Advanced Axle ID Gurus Needed !***
« Reply #18 on: Aug 14, 2005, 12:31:08 PM »
Over to this: Its the rear end, Im crossing my fingers for it beeing a 44. What do you think..












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« Reply #19 on: Aug 14, 2005, 12:36:36 PM »
Post a better pic of the rear axle, back side so we can see the diff cover. Also if you have the rig that there under it might help if we knew what it was, Year, model...?

Sorry cant get better pics. I have said what it is above,,.

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Re: ***Advanced Axle ID Gurus Needed !***
« Reply #20 on: Aug 16, 2005, 10:12:42 AM »
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« Reply #21 on: Aug 16, 2005, 10:20:05 AM »
its a 44, out of a jeep huh?

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Re: ***Advanced Axle ID Gurus Needed !***
« Reply #22 on: Aug 16, 2005, 04:10:42 PM »
I think we have all  determind it is a dana 44.
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