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Im fairly new to the real crawler game .... I just would appreciate if someone could give me some nice soft 6in lift ideas. Thanks,
I started with pro comp springs on my 1980 and I would say yes, pro comp is that bad. I would recommend looking at AllPro springs or RUF (rears up front) and 63"chevys. Bilsein 5125's will work well with either setup.If you go with AllPro I would recommend there 4" springs or maybe 5" with low profile front hanger and shorter shackles. A 6" spring combined with front hanger and shackles will be way tall. Generally you want to keep these trucks as low as possible to fit the size tire you're going to run.https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/toyota-truck-4runner/20665-63-chevy-1-2-ton-spring-swap-faq.htmlhttps://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/toyota-truck-4runner/265669-rear-up-front-faq.html
Welcome aboard CliffordYota,Flashing back to the beginning of my serious rock crawling days, discussions about flex and articulation were very frequent. As a member of the Mesa 4-Wheelers, I was among the most serious and experienced rock crawling gurus I knew.There are two basic considerations for attacking and modifying a vehicle for serious rock crawling. Is it your daily driver and week-end rockcrawler? Or is it a trailer queen, not driven on highways.A trailer queen can be radically modified. A daily driver must be safe on the highway.My vehicles were daily drivers and serious crawling machines.Here’s what I did to look at suspension and articulation on my 1985 shortbed…. First - I drove it up on one those ramps and looked at and studied what is binding or limiting suspension movement in both rear and front ends. With the eye and help from friends, after about an hour we could see it, all opinions and suggestions were carefully noted. Next, I experimented with the more common modifications – I removed leafs from the spring packs, that made a very noticeable difference. I bought shocks that had enough droop and compression lengths. Next, I replaced the shackles, drop steering arm, steering drop link, went to aftermarket spring packs. And, finally I lifted truck about 4”, and went to 33” tires. The modifications caused issues like driveshaft alignment, so I ended up doing trial and error on angle wedges under the axle housings. All of my suspension modifications still allowed my daily driver safe to drive on the highway.Oh yeah…. What is “serious rock crawling” you ask?... back in the day it was a trail with BFRs (Big Flipp’n Rocks) that visually looked nearly impossible to drive over and get from beginning to end of the trail.There’s probably more, but that’s all I can think of right now.Gnarls.
The shocks are not so much the issue, most shocks are all built by monroe, regardless of the label, it is the springs. Off the shelf lift kits springs were designed to just lift, and usually used the same number of leaves as OEM packs. If you want both lift and ride quality, you have to buy leaves designed to do both, which usually means getting them through Alcan or another custom spring company.6" of lift is pretty extreme to clear 35's, you can usually squeeze 33's on a 1st gen without a lift, so you should be able to get away with a 3" lift and some minor trimming of the wheel well openings for 35's. General rule for trail rigs is lift as little as needed, and cut as much as possible to clear the tires you want, to keep your center of gravity low.
I do want to make this thing into a fairly serious off road rig... ....come to find out it has 26,200 original miles lol.
I am very very sad to read that you want to take a rare Toyota truck with extremely low mileage and destroy it on rock crawling trails. To each his own. Gnarls.
Thats a big help. I want to fit 35s and keep a fairly low cg.
I bought it knowing it had 260k.... Don't worry, i'm not that stupid: I took all of the cosmetics off so they wont be damaged and hydrated them and they are stored already. The paintop job was done by a f****** paint brush and it's the only absolutely horrible thing on the rig. so i dont mind the body to get a little tweaked. Other than that I am trying to keep this thing very clean why still purpose built. I have started to coat and oil the frame to preserve it but well see. and no I dont want to beat the s*** out of it, just want to let her live a little hasn't seen much dirt. Thanks for the info on the suspension it helped a ton. I look into some rock sliders for the future and some other body armor it wont see any trails anytime soon.
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