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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #30 on: Dec 16, 2018, 08:31:51 AM »
Keep in mind that the air conditioning consists of 4th gear and those flaps under the windshield lol

What do you want air conditioning for?
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #31 on: Dec 16, 2018, 09:12:59 AM »
What do you want air conditioning for?

because it gets like 115 (46C) in the summer.
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #32 on: Dec 16, 2018, 10:30:44 AM »
because it gets like 115 (46C) in the summer.

And?

It hit 303'K here this year and i still had a sweater on.
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #33 on: Dec 16, 2018, 10:38:55 AM »
And?

It hit 30'c here this year and i still had a sweater on.

we hit that in the middle of December :rofl:
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #34 on: Dec 16, 2018, 10:43:54 AM »
we hit that in the middle of December :rofl:

do you drive around with the window down when its 263'K
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #35 on: Dec 16, 2018, 10:46:52 AM »
do you drive around with the window down when its 263'K

even when it's 316 kelvin. Just cause I like AC, doesn't mean my truck has AC lol
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #36 on: Dec 16, 2018, 10:50:03 AM »
even when it's 316 kelvin. Just cause I like AC, doesn't mean my truck has AC lol

i do not like ac. makes me ill. so any vehicle i had that had it would result in it being tossed.
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #37 on: Dec 16, 2018, 10:52:12 AM »
Why does it make you ill?
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #38 on: Dec 16, 2018, 11:04:49 AM »
Why does it make you ill?

Dries me out makes me cough and wheeze.
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #39 on: Dec 16, 2018, 05:14:40 PM »
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #40 on: Dec 17, 2018, 09:50:46 AM »
This thread is overdue for a walkaround video.
I will if it stays daylight for more than ten mins
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #41 on: Dec 17, 2018, 10:28:39 AM »
Less talk more video  :inthedark:
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #42 on: Dec 17, 2018, 10:35:58 AM »
Hey i saw an advertisement for Land Rover where they were using their smart phone to fold down the rear seats electronically. Does this one do that?
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #43 on: Dec 17, 2018, 10:46:22 AM »
Hey i saw an advertisement for Land Rover where they were using their smart phone to fold down the rear seats electronically. Does this one do that?
This is a van.
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #44 on: Dec 17, 2018, 07:16:55 PM »
Hey i saw an advertisement for Land Rover where they were using their smart phone to fold down the rear seats electronically. Does this one do that?

Yaw, of course it does. You release some little catch and push on the back of the seat with your smartphone.

Even my Toyota will do that.

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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #45 on: Dec 22, 2018, 10:17:33 AM »
head.gasket.gone.
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #47 on: Dec 22, 2018, 01:29:13 PM »
???

I cant be bothered to fix it, imma just change the motor.

Because its cheaper
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #48 on: Dec 22, 2018, 01:55:09 PM »
what a piece of crap. you need TOYOTA in your life.
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« Reply #49 on: Dec 22, 2018, 02:24:31 PM »
what a piece of crap. you need TOYOTA in your life.
Yup because no Toyota ever had head gasket issues.
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #50 on: Dec 22, 2018, 02:43:22 PM »
Yup because no Toyota ever had head gasket issues.

Not when you spend 6300 dollars on it.
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #51 on: Dec 22, 2018, 02:45:29 PM »
Not when you spend 6300 dollars on it.

I know plenty of people who spent 6300 on a 3.0 truck and had headgasket issues
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #52 on: Dec 22, 2018, 02:47:15 PM »
I know plenty of people who spent 6300 on a 3.0 truck and had headgasket issues


Yeah yeah yeah yeah bring up the 3.0 like I knew you would. I drove my 22R offroad with no water for a few hours and it still ran until the very end.
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #53 on: Dec 22, 2018, 04:27:39 PM »
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #54 on: Dec 23, 2018, 03:03:46 AM »
Yeah yeah yeah yeah bring up the 3.0 like I knew you would. I drove my 22R offroad with no water for a few hours and it still ran until the very end.

The very end... hmm that still means that it stopped and by your logic that means its :pokinit:.

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And just about every model has a lack of factory corrosion protection.

So if you should think Toyotas are flawless you need to open your eyes.

Also ive just cut the last of my Toyotas up for scrap. Why the frig would i want yet another?

Also i didnt pay 6300 for it i suggest you go and do your arithmetic again

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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #55 on: Dec 23, 2018, 05:47:26 AM »
Now that the Toyota destruction is at a lull and the Jeep was a dire disappointment ive bought the last vehicle i will be buying for a while.
Unless I buy a Series 2 to restore. Anyway, i need a vehicle that does the following

1:Economical to run.
2:Economical to repair and in a timely manner with parts available in the same country on the same day, forever.
3:Must have a towing capacity of over 3 tons.
4:Must be camp and fake overland friendly.
5:Must be able to securely lock tools in the rear of the vehicle. I.E replace non 4wd deathly slow Toyota van.
6:Must be 4wd (duh).
7:Must be upgradeable without ball ache.
8:Must be factory solid axle.

So, options:

1: 4 Runner, none left, rotten, slower than :pokinit: sliding down a hill. too much glass.
2: 80 series Cruiser, i have yet to win the lottery. Also too much glass.
3: Late model Japanese truck, pregnant dog please.
4: Jeep, i said i wanted a functional multi tasking vehicle, also JK requires a lottery win. Also, no parts.
5: Early Hilux, Slower than the :pokinit: sliding down a steeper hill, no towing capacity, rotten. i may have already cut it up.
6: Walk.

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Its more fun to drive than a Toyota.
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As an outside observer comparison….

“1:Economical to run.
2:Economical to repair and in a timely manner with parts available in the same country on the same day, forever.
3:Must have a towing capacity of over 3 tons.
4:Must be camp and fake overland friendly.
5:Must be able to securely lock tools in the rear of the vehicle. I.E replace non 4wd deathly slow Toyota van.
6:Must be 4wd (duh).
7:Must be upgradeable without ball ache.
8:Must be factory solid axle.”

Just looking at your list of criteria, an early Toyota long bed pickup with a snug top will meet or exceed every one of your listed items.

1 – there’s no way a Defender will be more economical to run.
2 -  there’s no way a Defender will be more economical to repair.
3 – the towing capacity is subjective definition. Although the “capacity” rating may be over 6,000 lbs., a Defender’s short wheel base of 93 inches may cause a serious safety issue if you were towing over 5,000 lbs.  If towing a heavy trailer was a main use feature, I’d be looking at a different vehicle than a Defenfer.
4 – My 1986 long bed Toyota pickup, with a 7.5 foot bed and a snug top was an awesome off-road camper and overlander.
5 -  A Toyota pickup with a snug top will meet or exceed that requirement.
6 - A 4,000 lbs vehicle on almost any off-road trail is a disadvantage compared to 1985 Toyota short bed at about 3200 lbs.  In fact, I’d wager a bet that a factory stock 1985 Toyota pickup with a rear-diff locker will do everything Defender will do, and then some.
7 – There are very few, truly capable, 4-wheel drive vehicles that have more “upgradeable” options that will not break your balls, than an early Toyota 4x4.
8 – Factory solid axles in early Totoya trucks to 1985 are as strong as any other vehicle in its class… PERIOD.

While the Defender is considered a luxury automotive “icon”, it is a very expensive 4-wheel drive vehicle.  I believe its “off-road” capability may be exaggerated… for a many reasons.

Regarding the list of defects or design flaws… there isn’t an automobile manufacturer with a short list!
 
One other point…. Is it a fair comment that historically British made vehicles are notorious for reliability issues?  By contrast, historically Japanese made vehicles are considered - by most automotive experts - to be the most reliability in the world.

So… for me… having owned a Toyota since 1986 – 4 Toy trucks – and 14 Toyota vehicles, an early Toyota truck would be a very viable and excellent choice.

One man’s trash is another man’s treasure.

That’s just my opinion – it may be worthless.  :gap:

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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #56 on: Dec 23, 2018, 08:50:16 AM »
As an outside observer comparison….

“1:Economical to run.
2:Economical to repair and in a timely manner with parts available in the same country on the same day, forever.
3:Must have a towing capacity of over 3 tons.
4:Must be camp and fake overland friendly.
5:Must be able to securely lock tools in the rear of the vehicle. I.E replace non 4wd deathly slow Toyota van.
6:Must be 4wd (duh).
7:Must be upgradeable without ball ache.
8:Must be factory solid axle.”

Just looking at your list of criteria, an early Toyota long bed pickup with a snug top will meet or exceed every one of your listed items.

1 – there’s no way a Defender will be more economical to run.Maybe in the US but he is in England so things are different.
2 -  there’s no way a Defender will be more economical to repair. He is a mechanic and lives in England again things are different
3 – the towing capacity is subjective definition. Although the “capacity” rating may be over 6,000 lbs., a Defender’s short wheel base of 93 inches may cause a serious safety issue if you were towing over 5,000 lbs.  If towing a heavy trailer was a main use feature, I’d be looking at a different vehicle than a Defenfer. Wheel base is 110 inches
4 – My 1986 long bed Toyota pickup, with a 7.5 foot bed and a snug top was an awesome off-road camper and overlander.
5 -  A Toyota pickup with a snug top will meet or exceed that requirement.
6 - A 4,000 lbs vehicle on almost any off-road trail is a disadvantage compared to 1985 Toyota short bed at about 3200 lbs.  In fact, I’d wager a bet that a factory stock 1985 Toyota pickup with a rear-diff locker will do everything Defender will do, and then some. good luck finding an 1985 toyota in England that isnt rotted
7 – There are very few, truly capable, 4-wheel drive vehicles that have more “upgradeable” options that will not break your balls, than an early Toyota 4x4. Again he is not in the US. Shipping parts is expensive from the US.
8 – Factory solid axles in early Totoya trucks to 1985 are as strong as any other vehicle in its class… PERIOD.

While the Defender is considered a luxury automotive “icon”, it is a very expensive 4-wheel drive vehicle.  I believe its “off-road” capability may be exaggerated… for a many reasons. Maybe the new ones. The older defenders are not  in the luxury automotive category IMO

Regarding the list of defects or design flaws… there isn’t an automobile manufacturer with a short list!
 
One other point…. Is it a fair comment that historically British made vehicles are notorious for reliability issues?  By contrast, historically Japanese made vehicles are considered - by most automotive experts - to be the most reliability in the world.

So… for me… having owned a Toyota since 1986 – 4 Toy trucks – and 14 Toyota vehicles, an early Toyota truck would be a very viable and excellent choice.

One man’s trash is another man’s treasure.

That’s just my opinion – it may be worthless.  :gap:

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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #57 on: Dec 23, 2018, 09:18:45 AM »
So your argument is that Britain sucks, and that he should move to the US rather than worry about Toyota vs Slow British piece of....
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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #58 on: Dec 23, 2018, 10:23:45 AM »
Rockcrawlintoy is correct. parts for these are so cheap.
Yes it is a 110 and is the most popular tow vehicle in the UK for a reason.
All the old Toyotas have gone years ago parts are non existent. the new stuff is garbage. even the 07 stuff is rotted out Cause Toyota dont paint feck all these days.
Does 30 to the gallon (US).
When was the last time a wheel bearing set, thats a set, so two OE bearings and the seal, cost you $10?
I would not run a camper shell on anything, ever. been there done that. Garbage.
Defender was a bare bones working vehicle.
2" lift kit which is enough room for 33's less than $100.

Reliability? everyone i know who owns a diesel defender or discovery rarely has an issue. Older Brtitish cars dont exist, everyone drives German.
For the children that think these are slow clearly have not or ever will drive one. Td5 will outrun most new Japanese trucks.

I love how its automatically assumed that because the head gasket is gone its a turd, i think it may have more to do with the fact that the gasket was first replaced by an idiot with no clue then when that failed a fortnight later it was replaced by a garage with no clue, i doubt the head was skimmed or pressure tested. I wont find out before having changed the motor out for another.

So your argument is that Britain sucks, and that he should move to the US rather than worry about Toyota vs Slow British piece of....

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Re: Not your average Toyota
« Reply #59 on: Dec 23, 2018, 12:58:42 PM »
As an outside observer comparison….

“1:Economical to run.
2:Economical to repair and in a timely manner with parts available in the same country on the same day, forever.
3:Must have a towing capacity of over 3 tons.
4:Must be camp and fake overland friendly.
5:Must be able to securely lock tools in the rear of the vehicle. I.E replace non 4wd deathly slow Toyota van.
6:Must be 4wd (duh).
7:Must be upgradeable without ball ache.
8:Must be factory solid axle.”

Just looking at your list of criteria, an early Toyota long bed pickup with a snug top will meet or exceed every one of your listed items.

1 – there’s no way a Defender will be more economical to run.
2 -  there’s no way a Defender will be more economical to repair.
3 – the towing capacity is subjective definition. Although the “capacity” rating may be over 6,000 lbs., a Defender’s short wheel base of 93 inches may cause a serious safety issue if you were towing over 5,000 lbs.  If towing a heavy trailer was a main use feature, I’d be looking at a different vehicle than a Defenfer.
4 – My 1986 long bed Toyota pickup, with a 7.5 foot bed and a snug top was an awesome off-road camper and overlander.
5 -  A Toyota pickup with a snug top will meet or exceed that requirement.
6 - A 4,000 lbs vehicle on almost any off-road trail is a disadvantage compared to 1985 Toyota short bed at about 3200 lbs.  In fact, I’d wager a bet that a factory stock 1985 Toyota pickup with a rear-diff locker will do everything Defender will do, and then some.
7 – There are very few, truly capable, 4-wheel drive vehicles that have more “upgradeable” options that will not break your balls, than an early Toyota 4x4.
8 – Factory solid axles in early Totoya trucks to 1985 are as strong as any other vehicle in its class… PERIOD.

While the Defender is considered a luxury automotive “icon”, it is a very expensive 4-wheel drive vehicle.  I believe its “off-road” capability may be exaggerated… for a many reasons.

Regarding the list of defects or design flaws… there isn’t an automobile manufacturer with a short list!
 
One other point…. Is it a fair comment that historically British made vehicles are notorious for reliability issues?  By contrast, historically Japanese made vehicles are considered - by most automotive experts - to be the most reliability in the world.

So… for me… having owned a Toyota since 1986 – 4 Toy trucks – and 14 Toyota vehicles, an early Toyota truck would be a very viable and excellent choice.

One man’s trash is another man’s treasure.

That’s just my opinion – it may be worthless.  :gap:

Gnarls.  :blah:

Something you might have forgotten Gnarls, he lives in Britain where these things are made so parts are certainly cheap, plentiful and easy to get.
-1987 SR5 4runner, 1KZ-te turbo diesel with custom 3" S.S. dump pipe, R-151f transmission, marlin dual ultimate transfer cases w/ triple shifter, SAS, 35's
-1984 SR5 Tercel 4wd wagon bone stock - given to my nephew
-1:10 scale RC 4wd crawler w/yota axles, R2 2 speed enclosed dig tranny and 1st gen 4Runner body by BigBird
-My build thread http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98969.0
-My front axle service write-up http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=97311.0[/ur

 
 
 
 
 

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