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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #30 on: Oct 18, 2018, 04:43:53 PM »
I have ran the stock downpipe to where the cat is supposed to be then take a pipe back to the end of the trans and cross over. A few have went under the bellhousing but I dont like that. More pain in the butt when dropping the trans. Either way you go you need a flex joint at the down pipe at minimum. I have one on both sides now and havent had any trouble. Most of the other guys I've built went with one. Seem to be ok as far as I've been told. All of ours are egr deleted and not running a cat or 2nd 02 sensor.
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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #31 on: Oct 18, 2018, 05:40:39 PM »
I have ran the stock downpipe to where the cat is supposed to be then take a pipe back to the end of the trans and cross over. A few have went under the bellhousing but I dont like that. More pain in the butt when dropping the trans. Either way you go you need a flex joint at the down pipe at minimum. I have one on both sides now and havent had any trouble. Most of the other guys I've built went with one. Seem to be ok as far as I've been told. All of ours are egr deleted and not running a cat or 2nd 02 sensor.
Any pictures of the piece that runs to the back of the transmission? Are you worried about the brakes lines right there? Did you move them to the other side too? I have a transfer case brake Wondering if it will end up in the way of the pipe.

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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #32 on: Oct 19, 2018, 05:51:43 AM »
I have since put a flex joint on both sides as well as a glass pack and factory style muffler






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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #33 on: Oct 19, 2018, 11:02:19 AM »
Trying to fit the motor.
Got the one side to line up but other side doesn't want to cooperate.

Also kinda looks like it needs to go lower based on clutch location.

The power steering reservoir is level with how it is sitting now, so I'm thinking if it was all bolted it it would definitely be cocked towards the passenger side.

Did you guys move the brake lines on the passenger side? They seem awfully close to the exhaust.

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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #34 on: Oct 19, 2018, 11:18:07 AM »
I did move/ persuade brake lines a bit. Also added some stick on heat barrier to firewall
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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #35 on: Oct 19, 2018, 12:04:59 PM »
I did move/ persuade brake lines a bit. Also added some stick on heat barrier to firewall
Here's what I ended up doing. I flipped the lower bracket 180 to push the lines over about 2".

I like the idea of adding the heat barrier.

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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #36 on: Oct 19, 2018, 08:31:54 PM »
Alright well after 5 hours of struggling to get the motor in I have given up for the night.

Anyone else have fitment issues with the chilkat mounts?
Or maybe it's the HD mounts that are the issue, not really sure. My 22r rubber mounts are ripped in half so cant really test to see if those will fit.

  see picture below. I tried bashing it with a bfh and loosing all the bolts to try to wiggle it in place. I am leaning towards grinding down the bottom of the silver HD mount to see if I can get it to drop in the rest of the way. My only concern is that right now the PS reservoir looks level and if it drops down it might be cocked to the passenger side. So frustrated I was hoping to have it drive able before I have to move out of my place on the 24th.

At least I got all my fuel lines routed and mounted on the driver side, got my clutch and brake lines moved away from the exhaust and made sure everything is clear for the motor to drop in.

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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #37 on: Oct 20, 2018, 07:50:40 AM »
Read my thread
 I had nothing but trouble with the chilkat mounts. I had to cut them up and shorter the drivers side about 3/4" add 5/8 to the passenger.
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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #38 on: Oct 20, 2018, 10:53:29 AM »
I think people use these by ToyOnlySwaps
:)bestgen4runner [12:45 PM]:   I am so stupid.

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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #39 on: Oct 20, 2018, 11:00:21 AM »
I think people use these by ToyOnlySwaps

This is what I went with. After using the chilkat's. But...., I didnt have any problems installing engine to mounts. Just sat crooked
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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #40 on: Oct 20, 2018, 12:09:40 PM »
I think people use these by ToyOnlySwaps
Well just ordered them. Gave up on the POS chilkat mounts. I ground away at least 1/4" of material and doesn't look any closer then before.

I did take off about a 1/16 on the silver mount but stopped after seeing the post and started grinding the mount in case I decided to order it.

I've gone way over budget on this build

GF is starting to be annoyed cause I don't have work right now and money is starting to get tight.

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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #41 on: Oct 20, 2018, 04:05:56 PM »
It really wasn't that big a deal to cut the mounts off and move them. Or cut the t100 off to reuse since there is a ton of material left.
hold this. . .

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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #42 on: Oct 24, 2018, 02:50:25 PM »
Well not to much to update had a fun time moving lol. 

I am all setup at the new place and now get to go through the fun time of unpacking and finding all the things I need to keep going on the build.

Toyonlyswaps mounts are due to arrive today and I'm going to get back at it.

I did get a bunch of other goodies in the mail for the swap and will be posting up on it soon.

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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #43 on: Oct 24, 2018, 03:38:13 PM »
So I am pulling apart my transfer case to replace the cracked piece and discovered this gear on the output shaft.

What exactly does this gear do? And it didn't seem to be a problem when it was in the truck?

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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #44 on: Oct 24, 2018, 04:46:29 PM »
Speedometer gear.
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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #45 on: Oct 24, 2018, 05:08:12 PM »
Speedometer gear.
Yeah I kinda figured that. My speedo worked even tho that was all jacked up. Guess I don't need to worry? I just cleaned out all the metal shavings and put it back together.

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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #46 on: Oct 28, 2018, 04:35:25 PM »
Some updates:

Motor is installed, fuel lines all now attached and ran.

Got the tranny all back together and bolted up to the motor.

However is think I am missing something? I can see the flywheel is that normal?


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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #47 on: Oct 28, 2018, 06:44:39 PM »
Some updates:

Motor is installed, fuel lines all now attached and ran.

Got the tranny all back together and bolted up to the motor.

However is think I am missing something? I can see the flywheel is that normal?


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Theres a cover that goes there...
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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #48 on: Oct 28, 2018, 06:47:30 PM »
Theres a cover that goes there...
Gah I had a feeling... Do I need to pull the tranny apart from the motor to install it?

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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #49 on: Oct 28, 2018, 06:52:48 PM »
Gah I had a feeling... Do I need to pull the tranny apart from the motor to install it?

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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #50 on: Oct 28, 2018, 06:53:31 PM »
No...
Well that's good. I guess I need to source the piece I need now.

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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #51 on: Oct 28, 2018, 07:58:43 PM »
For all those missing these parts

toyota part #s
The inspection plate/dust cover is in 3 pieces
Upper: 1135565011 (plate, rear end)
Lower: 113610C010 (cover, flywheel housing under)
Seal in between upper and lower: 1135475010 (seal, flywheel housing, dust

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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #52 on: Nov 06, 2018, 08:59:13 PM »
The truck runs!!!!  :beer: :clap:

I couldn't be happier.

I got custom PS lines which were cheaper then rockauto by a good $20 bucks and they built it right then and there. The shop is called Parker pneumatic or Controlled motion solutions, they have two names. They got all kinds of metric stuff which was great and super helpful.

For the fuel lines, I couldn't find fittings or Taco lines that were any good and not stripped to hell. After going to 6 different shops and two of which specialize in fuel lines I was not able to source them locally. HOWEVER! I got a part number for the fittings that the Tacoma uses.

Part# BQ9197 by Brakequip. Fit just like stock and I got 5/16 line and flared it. No Leaks  :thumbs:

Still a few things left to do like plumbing in the reservor for the PS, wiring EVAP, Battery/ EVAP mount, Exhaust, and with the PS box my drag links are hitting so I need to move the box forward as well.

I cant wait to go wheeling!

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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #53 on: Nov 07, 2018, 05:17:41 AM »
What was the deal with needing different ps lines? I used the same ones that I have always had on the truck?

Parker is one of the largest hydraulic plumbing companies in the states, if not the world. I'm sitting 20ft from my parker bench of thousands of hyd fitting and miles of hyd hose. They supply us with all of our equipment. I've used other brands in the past but I prefer parker over any of them.
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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #54 on: Nov 07, 2018, 08:53:59 AM »
What was the deal with needing different ps lines? I used the same ones that I have always had on the truck?

Parker is one of the largest hydraulic plumbing companies in the states, if not the world. I'm sitting 20ft from my parker bench of thousands of hyd fitting and miles of hyd hose. They supply us with all of our equipment. I've used other brands in the past but I prefer parker over any of them.

The one from my donor had been chopped in half. I made mine a bit shorter too since it's going to the ifs box.  :smack:

Plus my truck was a manual box before I swapped it over.

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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #55 on: Nov 19, 2018, 06:49:35 PM »
Alright well the truck is running however I am still having some issues.

1) my hydro assist tapped box is leaking from the fittings were the box was tapped. I've tightened the ever living hell out of it. Doesn't seem to matter.
Can I use tehlon tape?
Is there something better to use?
I'm also assuming since it leaking that it is the cause of the steering feeling like it's manual steering. Does this sound right?

2) my check engine light comes on like normal before the engine starts. However it turns off when I start the truck. I have no O2 sensor or an exhaust yet should the light be on when there is no O2?

Any input is appreciated. Thanks all. 

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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #56 on: Nov 19, 2018, 07:05:30 PM »
For the #1 part. If a bottom tap wasn't use, theres a good chance thread aren't deep enough. Try pulling fitting. Take a 1/4" off the steering box threads. It's a tapered thread. Might seal it up, I use liquid teflon vs the tape as well
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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #57 on: Nov 20, 2018, 11:58:49 AM »
For the #1 part. If a bottom tap wasn't use, theres a good chance thread aren't deep enough. Try pulling fitting. Take a 1/4" off the steering box threads. It's a tapered thread. Might seal it up, I use liquid teflon vs the tape as well
Thanks I will pull it off and try that. I didn't have a bottom tap so im going to grab one of those as well.

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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #58 on: Nov 21, 2018, 02:37:38 PM »
well tried the bottom tap, and used some loctite 565 to seal up the threads. Only to realize the damn box is leaking from the fitting and through the box next to the tap...  :mad: 

So i decided to JB weld the hole and the damn fitting in the box. Guess we will see once it cures... I dont want to spend on getting a new box if i dont have to...

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Re: My 3rz Swap in my 87 P/U.
« Reply #59 on: Nov 28, 2018, 12:22:38 PM »
Well jb weld did the trick. Not sure how long it will last but not a drop is coming out now. 

One question for you swapped 3rz out there. What is your running temperature? I'm sitting just slightly above half way mark on my 87 guage.

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