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Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« on: Sep 05, 2018, 06:01:39 PM »
I'd like to introduce you to my new to me 1985 Toyota Pickup 4X4!
Just purchased it today, for a grand old price of $1500.
It runs, drives, but needs a new motor. It knocks at anything above 2000 RPM, plus she's got a bad head gasket.
However, the transmission is new. The floorpan is in pretty good shape, better than my 85 Xtracab.
The frame is solid, no rot!

It's got about 230K miles, I purchased it from the guy who had it since 95'.

It's about as Base model as they come, no AC, no Power steering, no tilt wheel....

I'm gonna throw an engine together, the one from my 22R build up. Early style 22R, dual row.
I only need the head machined and the rotating assembly balanced, then it's ready to go together.

I plan to keep this one stock, and wheel my 85.

What does everyone think? Good purchase? I know, the price is high, but it's got a nice camper shell!
Plus an original clock spring still in the Toyota parts bag!

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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #1 on: Sep 06, 2018, 09:49:33 AM »
:popcorn:
I am 1/5th of Perfect Fit
SqWADoosh [04:19 PM]: *sigh* I guess Chris is right and I just need to wait until I'm in a place where I have a tow rig and trailer before I get this caliber of truck
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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #2 on: Sep 06, 2018, 09:45:36 PM »
Cleaned up the engine a bit today, was about a 1/4 of an inch of grease on the timing cover, nice and clean now.
Sending my rotating assembly off in a couple weeks to get balanced, then I'll assemble the block. Head gets machined last.
Anyone interested in this motor? I'm sure it'd make a good core for someone who wants it...

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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #3 on: Sep 21, 2018, 10:56:41 PM »
Couple pictures of the rust I'll be dealing with, I'm excited! What's Everyone weld with when they do rust repair like this? I was thinking some Tig to help build up some areas.

Bonus picture of my second day of Arc Welding, taking the full welding program at SLCC here in Utah.

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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #4 on: Oct 21, 2018, 05:18:48 PM »
Working on getting the title paperwork sent in today since it didn't come with one when I got it. What a crappy laborious process. I have to have a Police officer come to my house and do a VIN inspect on it.

Engine is coming along great, should have the head installed this weekend or next! Probably will have the truck running before I get the title.



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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #5 on: Dec 23, 2018, 04:19:31 PM »
Here's the current state of this truck!
Engine is in, and almost ready to start.
For the people NOT following the 22R build, here's what the motor got:

Early 22R (81')
-Block decked/bored .020"
-Rods honed/new bushings
-Head resurfaced/valve job (all original valves!)
-New pistons
-Re-ground crank
-OSK timing set
-22RE performance rocker arms
-22RE Performance stock re-ground Cam
-Resurfaced flywheel
-New bearings (Safety brand)
-New clutch kit
-Complete de-smogged (stock Aisin carb)
-Aisin Oil Pump
-Aisin Water Pump

All OEM or better parts. While I had the motor pulled, I also did the transmission input shaft seal and bearing retainer gasket.
While I was in there, I saw quality Nachi bearings! Hopefully meaning this "rebuilt" transmission has good parts. Sure shifted great before I pulled the engine.

And a pic of the mostly complete stock interior, I plan to add carpet very soon!

Today while digging through the glove box, I found an original horn contact pin in the parts bag. No Lexus or Scion logo so I assume these are old!

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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #6 on: Dec 29, 2018, 08:26:04 AM »
The finished engine awaiting it's first start.
Currently waiting on my gear oil to arrive.
I bought Redline MT-90, I've heard great things about it!

This truck is getting quite the refresh, it drove great prior to the engine install, so I've got me a solid daily here. I will eventually do things like brakes and new stock suspension. After I get the motor running and I'm satisfied, I'm going to buy a carpet kit for the interior.



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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #7 on: Dec 30, 2018, 10:06:39 PM »
This truck is now functioning!

The engine started right up to life and it's running great. It also shifts amazing!

I used the Redline MT-90, which is highly acclaimed not only for our truck, but for several other applications. It's synthetic as well, so it shifts great in the cold.
I cannot recommended this stuff enough... And that's after driving around with it for five minutes.
The transmission already shifts crisp and accurate, but I am thinking about replacing the shifter seat and cup.
The heater on this truck works amazingly well, I think the CLR that I used to clean it worked great.
This is important as I live in a cold climate, so I want it to be nice and toasty.

Everything else on this truck is solid, I thought with it sitting for nearly 15 years that it would need more. Apparently not. Well it could use some things.

But, the brakes and steering work great. The suspension bushings are old and dry-rotted.
We will assess that later.


This thing needs two things now.

Carpet, and a clock.

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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #8 on: Dec 31, 2018, 04:56:46 PM »
Put about 20 miles on it today, engine runs great. Truck drives great, minus the squeaky clutch pedal. WD-40.

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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #9 on: Dec 31, 2018, 05:23:02 PM »
 Nice job. Looks like you're celebrating at the Asian Massage parlor? :wink2:
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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #10 on: Dec 31, 2018, 05:25:51 PM »
Nice job. Looks like you're celebrating at the Asian Massage parlor? :wink2:
Nope, a headshop not in view.

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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #11 on: Jan 01, 2019, 06:24:57 AM »
Nope, a headshop not in view.

Yeah, another name for an Asian massage parlor...headshop.
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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #12 on: Jan 01, 2019, 08:11:00 AM »
Are you gonna tackle the rust next? I would think that Tig would be best especially since you have access to it through your program.
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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #13 on: Jan 01, 2019, 08:19:04 AM »
Are you gonna tackle the rust next? I would think that Tig would be best especially since you have access to it through your program.
Well, not exactly. I start the second semester of welding on January 7th, which is exclusively SMAW.
Tig/mig doesn't come until the 3rd.

I know how to do GTAW, I've done it. Pretty good at it too.... I just don't have a machine to weld.

I'm not exactly worried about the rust right now, doesn't leak water into the cab.
I'm also moving here soon, salt lake to Vancouver WA so I won't be able to do any other major work until I move. And when I get there, the climate isn't super rusty. So it won't get worse hopefully. I do intend to fix it as soon as I can.
The next thing on the list will be carpet and probably some highway tires.

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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #14 on: Jan 01, 2019, 08:36:38 AM »
Well, not exactly. I start the second semester of welding on January 7th, which is exclusively SMAW.
Tig/mig doesn't come until the 3rd.

I know how to do GTAW, I've done it. Pretty good at it too.... I just don't have a machine to weld.

I'm not exactly worried about the rust right now, doesn't leak water into the cab.
I'm also moving here soon, salt lake to Vancouver WA so I won't be able to do any other major work until I move. And when I get there, the climate isn't super rusty. So it won't get worse hopefully. I do intend to fix it as soon as I can.
The next thing on the list will be carpet and probably some highway tires.

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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #15 on: Jan 05, 2019, 10:40:41 PM »
Now that I've got this truck running and driving great, I need to think about some theft protection.
As we all know, these things get stolen all the time. I often take trips down to Ocean Beach San Diego where my family lives, and driving this truck THAT close to the border scares the crap out of me!

I've decided on 3 theft protection methods. The first is locking the shifters together. We've all seen it done before, and it's effective. If I could somehow lock the transmission or transfercase in neutral together, it is undrivable.
In my other truck, my Xtracab I took the steering wheel off and inside with me overnight. Works great, they can't steal it if they can't drive it. It's literally just a 19MM and my daily carried Leatherman to pull it off. In my Xtracab I also have a keyed Killswitch hidden up in the dash. It's not powered off the stock coil circuit, so even breaking the column and hot wiring it isn't an option.

I'm fairly certain with these three methods, it's theft proof.

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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #16 on: Jan 15, 2019, 09:22:36 PM »
I wanted to check the flexibility of both my trucks and see if there's a massive difference. Less than I thought. No sway bar on the single cab, and springs are extremely tired. Xtracab is 4inches of lift with sway bar and no torque rod.

Bolt on lifts are not designed for articulation.
The Xtracab will get 37's and high-steer soon.

I like having two trucks, I drive both everyday. Since the single cab is still on it's 1000 mile break-in.


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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #17 on: Feb 15, 2019, 06:18:10 PM »
1,600 miles in on the rebuild. Running great.
Rear U-joint yoke on the differential side is cracked, new one on the way from mudmaster.

Haven't decided if I will get OEM replacement U-joints or just go with some parts store ones. Duralast has basically an unlimited warranty.

My friend has a 1999 Tacoma and today we replaced his rear U-joint with a duralast branded one from Autozone.
The grease zerk is on the completey wrong side, and it can't even be greased using a grease gun.
It's too far in and the yoke is too large to allow one to fit. Looks like some decent Japanese made ones are the way to go.

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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #18 on: Feb 15, 2019, 08:55:30 PM »
80 shortbed-22re,w56,Marlin 23 spline dual cases,HighAngle drivelines,RUF/63"chevy's,35''mtr's,85 front axle,30 spline Longfields, Allpro highsteer.87 rear axle,5.29 gears,rear spool,BudBuilt cm, marlin HD clutch,ramsey 8000 winch. 
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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #19 on: Feb 16, 2019, 04:26:07 PM »
You cant go wrong with matsuba joints

https://coreswest.com/toyota-4x4-driveshaft-u-joint-oem-matsuba-joint/
That's what I'm thinking, I'll order those!

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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #20 on: Feb 23, 2019, 02:06:28 PM »
Bought this for the single cab! Low miles and far as these typically go for. Already have the oil pressure sender (NOT switch) connected to the third oil pressure port. Will be an easy swap. Not sure if mine is prewired for a tach, my other 85' wasn't.

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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #21 on: Feb 28, 2019, 07:54:41 AM »
Gauge cluster is in! As I suspected, my truck was not already wired for a tach, I believe all EFI trucks regardless of trim level are, just not carb'd trucks.
Ran a wire from the extra coil port and to the P terminal screw on the back of the cluster.
Everything works, including the oil pressure gauge.
The bulbs are burnt out, but I have several spares. So that'll be an easy fix.

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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #22 on: Mar 01, 2019, 09:44:07 PM »
Installed new LED bulbs in the cluster and climate controls. I also borrowed the clock out of my xtracab. Installing new autometer mechanical oil pressure and water temperature tomorrow. Full view on engine temp. I'm planning a 3 core aluminum rad and an electric fan.

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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #23 on: Mar 01, 2019, 09:44:42 PM »
Installed new LED bulbs in the cluster and climate controls. I also borrowed the clock out of my xtracab. Installing new autometer mechanical oil pressure and water temperature tomorrow. Full view on engine temp. I'm planning a 3 core aluminum rad and an electric fan.

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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #24 on: Jul 07, 2019, 08:38:09 AM »
This thread has remained dead for too long, it's time I revive it!
A LOT has happened to this truck since I've last posted, and a LOT still needs to happen.
First and foremost, She's on some new (new to me, used) tires and some nice chrome wheels.
The tires are Yokohama Geolanders, a mild all terrain.
I will get nicer stock sized all terrains once the axle rebuild is done. No sense getting new tires that will wear unevenly.

On the inside, I installed some bucket seats out of a 2nd generation 4Runner, they are super comfortable.
The bench seat is gonna be kept.
I also put a ammo box between the seats for a center console of sorts. This led to a McDonald's drink Carrier fitting perfect between the seats and cans, a disposable and clean cup holder.
Running a fire extinguisher under the driver's seat, these should be mandatory for anyone's build.

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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #25 on: Jul 07, 2019, 08:52:47 AM »
The biggest changes are coming to the suspension.
I am planning to replace every single piece of the suspension on this truck, as it really needs it. All the bushings are cracked, and have had less lube than my highschool girlf... Nevermind.
I ordered a Polyurethane bushing kit from Energy Suspension, it's one high quality kit.
It has body mounts bushings, and all the suspension bushings. No shock bushings, but I assume this is because they are different depending on the shock brand you run.

I rebuilt the front torque rod first, using the polyurethane Bushings. Many are saying "just run High-Steer" but this truck is staying stock. I have another truck that is getting High-Steer, stay tuned for that!
The torque rod bushings put up a good fight, but I beat them out. New bushings went in easy with a hammer. Plenty of lithium grease to keep them quiet. Some paint too.

New springs got installed yesterday, it took me awhile. The springs I removed ended up being the originals, so the bolts were incredibly difficult to remove. The springs I purchased are from Michigan Truck Springs, made in the US.
They are modeled for a 79' 4WD Pickup, which the site claims are different measurements than the 84-85 truck springs. They went in fine, and I assume they are stock height as that's what the site said.
It's hard to tell until they settle a bit.
Since the original springs are two different part numbers, the axle perch heights are different. New springs are the same, meaning I will need to install a plate on the perch to compensate for the difference.
The bushings went in with some side to side play, but barely any. They expanded once the bolts got tightened down, and they don't feel bad.

Next will be the shocks, drag link rebuild, and then the front axle rebuild. New brakes will be installed too!

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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #26 on: Jul 18, 2019, 09:48:59 AM »
Got the draglink rebuild finished, it's now ready to be installed into the truck.
The draglink I rebuilt is out of another truck of mine, so I have something for a comparison once I get the one being replaced out.

Started out pretty nasty, culmination of 80's, 90's and 00's grease. Lovely.
Cleaned the surfaces with degreaser and a wire wheel, and sprayed it with primer and paint.
Aesthetic wise, it looks pretty nice.

All the parts needed for the rebuild itself, I sourced from Moog. Now I understand Everyone loves to hate them, but these are little solid individual parts. How can they mess that up? They are also made in Japan, which is awesome.
I would have done this with Toyota sourced parts, but it would've been at least $100 whereas the Moog was about $25.
Came with new springs, spring cups, and the guides that hold the springs straight. It was also nice to see new zerk fittings, and especially the new rubber boots. These will need to be bound with safety wire to keep the grease in.
Moog part number ES3139

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Re: Toybrota's 85 Single cab 4X4
« Reply #27 on: Jul 23, 2019, 07:32:38 AM »
The rebuilt Draglink has been installed, and it definitely feels like the steering is tighter.
I'm glad I did this when I did, there was no grease in the old draglink.
Not done the half assed way either, no nickels shoved in. New parts is the only way to go.

Shocks coming soon, followed by a front axle rebuild and new tie rods.

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