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T,This is a long thread for having limited facts known, just my observation.First, did you check and measure the mating surfaces for flatness?I don’t care what LCE told you, there IS a torque spec, and I don’t know who at LCE told you that but its stupid! The 22R intake manifold spec is 14 lbs. In MY opinion and MY experience that factory torque spec is too light. But, it is supported by a bracket... WHY do you think that is? After working on 3 Toyota trucks, 2 22REs and 1 22R since 1986, I don’t agree with the factory specs in several cases… again JUST MY experience.If you are just “snugging” those bolts and nuts, the manifold and plate is GOING TO LEAK!! That manifold hangs off the head, it probably weighs MORE that the factory carb and manifold. When I suggested to use Permatex High Performance Thread Sealer, I didn’t mean just on the threads. Regarding the Alumaseal, I should have suggested how to put in the radiator… but it is too late now. It should only take about 30 minutes at freeway speeds to stop that leak…. BUT if the manifold and plate are moving due heat and vibration, and the torque pressure against those surfaces, with or with a gasket, is NOT sufficient - the Alumaseal may NOT work.EDIT: By the way..... how many manuals can you show me or have you ever seen that refers to or specs torque for ANYTHING on a Toyota 22R engine at "snug"?Gnarls.
Hey Gnarls, I think you may be confused on which plate I'm talking about.
Hey Gnarls, I think you may be confused on which plate I'm talking about.Where else do you recommend putting the thread sealant? Seems counter intuitive to use it as a gasket sealer?
That plate and a leak would drive me nuts.Not being able see it, I'm guessing the mating surface at the manifold is very narrow?The amount surface area to seal the plate to the bottom of the manifold is minimal, so with the heat and pressure on the sealing areas, I'd go with whatever Offenhauser recommends. If there are any defects, Offenhauser should warrantee their stuff.Gnarls.
.... This plate is on the bottom of the intake and is mounted with 8 M6 bolts. I have not seen a torque spec anywhere, I've searched the FSM (maybe mine is missing it?).
I received an email from Tony at LCE. He had this to say about the surfaces: "We actually get these straight from the foundry quite rough.Offy finish is horrible, so we do it here." This means they resurface the intake at their shop, I'm assuming this applies to the bottom water plate as well. I explained the methods I had used to seal it, and he was surprised. He recommended this: "If a gasket is giving you this much trouble, I would get a tube of Hi Temp Copper RTV Silicone Gasket Maker and use that with no gasket. I've used Ultra Grey with no issue, but Copper is called for coolant."I think if the stop leak doesn't work, I'll try this. Coupled with the thread sealant you recommended. It appears to be still leaking currently, but they say it takes up to 200 miles to seal. If it doesn't seal I'll do the aforementioned. Crazy thought, what if I made a CNC machined intake for this truck? Two halves, completely custom. Only ports that I need. Ideas...Sent from my PH-1 using Tapatalk
I'm a fan of trying new things in the name of learning. I bet you'd learn a lot in the process. It would probably be more work than just welding the thing together, but sometimes more work isn't the point.
Yeah... I suppose you could tig weld it on. I'd guess an expert tig welder experienced with alloy and aluminum would charge $100 to do it? Gnarls.
What better time to pick up a Fronius MagicWave for only a modest amount more than the cost of an entire replacement engine?Seriously, though, when enough jobs accumulate that require a tool I don't have, I usually end up getting anyway. Just a thought.
Exactly. Those Fronius machines are spendy! Sent from my PH-1 using Tapatalk
I've been told those can plug up radiators and heater cores. I've seen it happen once, which is hardly a huge sample size. But it's enough that the idea of using those gives me pause.
Not much will be happening on this build for a few weeks. Experienced something interesting today though...The temp on the freeway was fluctuating, from 170° - 210°. Turned the heat on, immediately stopped and went back to normal (170-195).Sounds like air in the system to me... What do you all think? Jumped back on the freeway, no issues whatsoever. Sent from my PH-1 using Tapatalk
Why didn't you just shorten the hose and reattach?
Both my trucks have been picked up, being sent to my new home in Vancouver WA. I'll see them later this week, I leave Salt Lake Sh**** on Thursday. Sent from my PH-1 using Tapatalk
Hey,I saw that car transporter going to Mexico...………….
If I had $2 for every Toyota truck I witnessed going to Mexico in the last 13 years I could pay for a 14-day All-Inclusive Carnival cruise to Jamaica!! Gnarls.
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