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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #420 on: Mar 22, 2019, 12:06:38 PM »
.... Plan is for exo in the future. :thumbs:  ....

OH NO..... NOT AN EXO!!!  Please don't do it!  :willynilly:

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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #421 on: Mar 22, 2019, 12:10:55 PM »
OH NO..... NOT AN EXO!!!  Please don't do it!  :willynilly:

Gnarls. :yikes:
How come you don't like em? I could understand either way, definitely a look that's different. Not sure I would. I Appreciate the functionality and safety of an exo though. Other truck might get a partial one.

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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #422 on: Mar 22, 2019, 12:24:42 PM »
I think the half inner, half outer cages look the best. Hybrid exo...
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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #423 on: Mar 22, 2019, 12:35:16 PM »
I plan to copy this almost exact.
I am 1/5th of Perfect Fit
SqWADoosh [04:19 PM]: *sigh* I guess Chris is right and I just need to wait until I'm in a place where I have a tow rig and trailer before I get this caliber of truck
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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #424 on: Mar 22, 2019, 03:58:15 PM »
You can fix the stock temp gauge...

https://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=47792.msg599053#msg599053


google 'Toyota temp gauge mod'
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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #425 on: Mar 22, 2019, 06:58:51 PM »
You can fix the stock temp gauge...

https://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=47792.msg599053#msg599053


google 'Toyota temp gauge mod'

emsvitil...

Are you serious!!  Holy hot  ca-ca!!  It would take me 3 hours just to figure out what the hell that guy said and how to apply it!! 

When it's all "fixed" it is STILL a 30 degree sweep non-readable temperature number!!

I'll rather buy an Autometer gauge and install it!!

That's just me.

Now...it is really cool that someone figured out some incredible piece of electronic modification, and went to all the trouble to post it.

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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #426 on: Mar 23, 2019, 05:05:53 AM »
How come you don't like em?


Well... here's a 1/2 dozen reasons that pop out of my mind based upon about 20 years of wheeling.

1.   Adding 300 to 400 lbs. to a rock crawler requires more power/torque to move - just adding to potential failures, raises center of gravity making rollovers more likely.

2.   There is no such thing as a "damage proof" cage - exo or otherwise - it will get damaged.
3.   Exo cages add unnecessary size to the vehicle - it gets hung up on obstacles 3 times more often.
4.   Exo cages limit access to exterior body parts and interior ingress and egress.
5.   Exo cages are very expensive and time consuming to fabricate - cost/performance ratio makes it a waste.
6.   THEY ARE UGLY!!!!!!!!

I am an absolute believer, and highly recommend an interior roll cage be installed in any off-road vehicle, especially in a Toy truck.  I would NOT go rock crawling again without a properly designed roll cage installed in my vehicle.



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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #427 on: Mar 23, 2019, 05:41:43 AM »
I plan to copy this almost exact.

but no oem bar still....i don't get that?
seatbelts maybe?

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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #428 on: Mar 23, 2019, 04:34:28 PM »
You can fix the stock temp gauge...

https://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=47792.msg599053#msg599053


google 'Toyota temp gauge mod'

All I could find was information for 93 and up, nothing at all for second gens.

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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #429 on: Mar 23, 2019, 07:22:06 PM »
All I could find was information for 93 and up, nothing at all for second gens.

Same principal.     Might have to vary the resistor values.

http://www.toyotasurf.asn.au/techsite/tempgauge.htm
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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #430 on: Mar 24, 2019, 08:54:23 AM »
Right, but without a lot of potentially destructive testing I can't know if I have to vary the resistance values or not

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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #431 on: Mar 25, 2019, 04:09:36 AM »
Right, but without a lot of potentially destructive testing I can't know if I have to vary the resistance values or not

At the end of the day of modifying that gauge you just polished a turd.  It's electic.  There is no temperature reading.

I have never questioned the water temp reading on my AutoMeter Sport Comp mechanical 270 degree sweep gauge.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/atm-3432?seid=srese1&cm_mmc=pla-google-_-shopping-_-srese1-_-autometer&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIj6mD0JOd4QIVsxx9Ch3RcwM3EAQYASABEgI9rvD_BwE

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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #432 on: Mar 25, 2019, 01:06:39 PM »
There is no temperature reading.


Make your own temp marks.....
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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #433 on: Mar 25, 2019, 01:14:52 PM »
Purchased a new fan clutch. Aisin, OEM of course.

This is the model FCT-001

Figured I'd go ahead and eliminate another possible variable. Fan wasn't whiring at 230.

Radiator comes this week. Intake gasket should also be here this week. Old gasket should come off easily, wasn't on there that long.

Debating getting a 180 thermostat. But this radiator is already overkill (3 core aluminum) for a stock application. May do it anyways, I'm heading to Nevada later this summer for some abandoned mine exploration. It needs to be able to handle 100+ off road. An electrical fan is DEFINITELY a consideration.

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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #434 on: Mar 25, 2019, 01:27:02 PM »
Hold off on the thermostat.
I am 1/5th of Perfect Fit
SqWADoosh [04:19 PM]: *sigh* I guess Chris is right and I just need to wait until I'm in a place where I have a tow rig and trailer before I get this caliber of truck
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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #435 on: Mar 25, 2019, 02:03:58 PM »

Make your own temp marks.....

      :haha: "Make your own temp marks...".   :rofl:


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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #436 on: Mar 25, 2019, 02:11:02 PM »
      :haha: "Make your own temp marks...".   :rofl:


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Ok
That was funny.
I am 1/5th of Perfect Fit
SqWADoosh [04:19 PM]: *sigh* I guess Chris is right and I just need to wait until I'm in a place where I have a tow rig and trailer before I get this caliber of truck
Mudder [08:28 PM]:   not try to be a jerk, but are you serious bestgen?
Prismo [06:11 PM]:   Done, time to relax or as Bestgen says....FREEDOM!
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H8PVMNT [03:30 PM]: I can go both ways.

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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #437 on: Mar 25, 2019, 02:42:35 PM »

Mommy they're making fun of me.


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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #438 on: Mar 25, 2019, 03:11:33 PM »
holy crap that fan clutch was cheap!! nice find!

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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #439 on: Mar 26, 2019, 05:01:30 PM »
holy crap that fan clutch was cheap!! nice find!

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Thanks! I usually find the Aisin number and then I shop around.

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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #440 on: Mar 26, 2019, 05:07:57 PM »
New fan clutch came, ordered yesterday and here today. How nice.

Got the old gasket off, still have to clean the rest of the gasket surfaces. New razor blade should do that well. Acetone always helps clean surfaces up too!

Rad comes tomorrow, I'm praying I don't need an electric fan to run it. Checked measurements, seems good so far. Hoping to have it running this week. After letting the coolant sit a bucket, I noticed some crap had settled to the bottom. I'll just flush the entire system.

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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #441 on: Mar 26, 2019, 07:52:20 PM »
You can change the fluid in the aisin fan clutches....
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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #442 on: Mar 26, 2019, 08:03:08 PM »
You can change the fluid in the aisin fan clutches....
Not worth the hassle. I'd rather pay $40 for a new one. Also, are you sure? I've heard you can on other models, not these. Nothing is mentioned about servicing it in the FSM.

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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #443 on: Mar 26, 2019, 09:45:48 PM »
http://www.zhome.com/ZCMnL/tech/FanClutch/FanClutch.htm


But I'm thinking Aisin is OEM.   If not, not sure.

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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #444 on: Mar 26, 2019, 09:50:05 PM »
Side question. Does everyone install their intake gaskets dry? Or with sealant?

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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #445 on: Mar 27, 2019, 03:40:05 AM »
I like to use that copper spray adhesive/sealant on something like an intake.  It has worked good for me.
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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #446 on: Mar 27, 2019, 03:58:47 AM »
Side question. Does everyone install their intake gaskets dry? Or with sealant?


I installed mine dry.. .no gasket sealant.  I don't know what the "Pros" do or recommend.

The bolts and nuts will need to be checked and rechecked after installation to keep tight.

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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #447 on: Mar 27, 2019, 04:00:30 AM »
Not worth the hassle. I'd rather pay $40 for a new one.


I agree.

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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #448 on: Mar 27, 2019, 07:36:25 AM »
I like to use that copper spray adhesive/sealant on something like an intake.  It has worked good for me.
I've also heard good things about that copper spray. Did you use it on this style of intake gasket with the rubber rings around the coolant passages? I may install this one dry, and try again if need be.

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Re: Toybrota's 22R build
« Reply #449 on: Mar 27, 2019, 07:37:50 AM »
I installed mine dry.. .no gasket sealant.  I don't know what the "Pros" do or recommend.

The bolts and nuts will need to be checked and rechecked after installation to keep tight.

Gnarls.
Thanks for the tip regarding the bolts.
I'm using the LC engineering kit that uses all studs, with nylon lock nuts. I'll probably replace the nylon nuts with newer ones since these have been taken off a few times.

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