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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #30 on: Mar 05, 2017, 02:43:45 AM »
That's funny because I had a 1984 with 22re because the manufacturing date was closer to 1985... so yeah there's that and yeah a 1984 late model could have a turbo engine if they offered a 22re late year as well.


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Are we splitting tiny old hairs?  :smack:

First, Wiki words are not always gospel.

I have worked in a multi-brand automobile dealership.  I have family that currently own a very large multi-brand automobile dealership.

For many brands and models, it was and IS possible to pre-order a particular model year and production features.

The model year and the actual calendar year of production rarely coincide. For example, a 2015 model year automobile is available during most of the 2015 calendar year, but is usually also available from the third quarter of 2014 because production of the 2015 model began in July or August 2014. When a new model is introduced there may be an additional delay to retool and retrain for production of the new model.

Just to clarify I should have been more specific in my IF statement.  By as they did in 1985 I meant for the same prices and same design.

I would prefer the straight axle of the 85, but I would happily buy the 1986 version with an IFS front end, as in that instance, I would not be doing any serious wheeling in it.

By the way, I test drove a 1984 titled Toyota Longbed pickup with a 22RE engine.  :biggthumpup:

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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #31 on: Mar 05, 2017, 04:53:21 AM »
I think the CARB referee would have a field day if I showed up with something that big in a Toyota and tried to get it smog approved, we have crazy smog laws here

"Engine Changes
Engine changes are legal as long as the following requirements are met to ensure that the change does not increase pollution from the vehicle:
The engine must be the same year or newer than the vehicle.
The engine must be from the same type of vehicle (passenger car, light-duty truck, heavy-duty truck, etc.) based on gross vehicle weight.
If the vehicle is a California certified vehicle then the engine must also be a California certified engine.
All emissions control equipment must remain on the installed engine.
Vehicles converted to 100% electric drive, with all power supplied by on-board batteries are considered in compliance with the engine change requirements. All fuel system components must be removed prior to inspection. For additional information contact the ARB helpline at (800) 242-4450"

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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #32 on: Mar 05, 2017, 05:42:47 AM »
So far I am super happy with my TDI swapped truck everything on the swap was simple....

Yes, there are some advantages to the diesel engine in an off-road vehicle.  Lack of electrical parts could be helpful when wheeling in water.  Although I had both of my trucks, 22RE and 22R in water that was up to the top of the tire and did not stall the engine.  Fuel mileage is typically better for the diesels. One thing I did NOT like about my diesel Mercerdes is having to wear gloves every time I refueled.  Getting the diesel smell off my hands was very difficult.  By the time you add the extra quarts of oil the diesel crankcase, and the price of diesel fuel over gas, you are close to breaking even on MPG costs.   The low RPM torque of the diesels are great.

Aftermarket parts,  modification options, performance add-ons, and adapters for a Chevy engine is arguably the most available on ANY typical production automotive engine.

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35 and LF6 SCPI and MPFI

Major design changes to the 4.3L V6 for the 1996 model year. Like other small block Chevrolet V8s, the 4.3L engine received redesigned heads which had improved airflow and combustion efficiency. These heads are referred to as Vortec heads.

The engine block was revised with structural reinforcing ribs up front eliminating the two freeze plugs (on the front and back) along with an alloy oil pan (for the S10, Blazer, and Jimmy). The 1996+ cast aluminum oil pan has 12 bolts where a 16 bolt oil pan from the earlier 4.3 does not interchange. These 4.3L (1996-2000) came with a redesigned 4L60-E with a removable bellhousing which bolts to the oil pan.

Crankshafts manufactured for the 1999 model year (to the end of 4.3L production) had a pilot hole depth of 1.410" when coupled to the LSx-based 4L60E, which had a redesigned torque converter pilot hub which is longer and used with a 300mm stator shaft). The torque converter pilot hub is longer than the early 4L60E (similar in appearance to the 700R4 c. 1993-95) or the second generation variants (incorporating a removable bellhousing) with the GMT330 or 1996-2000 C/K series.

This engine came in two versions, the LF6 rated at 175 hp (130 kW) - 180 hp (130 kW), and the L35 rated at 180 - 200 hp (150 kW). Only the S-series pick-ups used the LF6, while the full-size trucks, vans and Blazer and Jimmy used the L35 version. The L35 was optional on the S-Series trucks.
Year    Horsepower    Torque    Fuel System    Compression Ratio    RPO    Applications
1996    170 hp (130 kW) at 4,400 rpm    235 lbft (319 Nm) at 2,800 rpm    SCPI    9.2:1    LF6    5
19972002    175 hp (130 kW) at 4,400 rpm    240 lbft (325 Nm) at 2,800 rpm    MPFI[6]    9.2:1    LF6    5
19962002    180 hp (130 kW) at 4,400 rpm    240 lbft (325 Nm) at 2,800 rpm    SCPI    9.2:1    LF6    6
19962002    180 hp (130 kW) at 4,400 rpm    245 lbft (332 Nm) at 2,800 rpm    SCPI    9.2:1    L35    5
19962002    190 hp (140 kW) at 4,400 rpm    250 lbft (339 Nm) at 2,800 rpm    SCPI    9.2:1    L35    3,4,6
19962002    200 hp (150 kW) at 4,400 rpm    250 lbft (339 Nm) at 2,800 rpm    SCPI    9.2:1    L35    2
19961998    200 hp (150 kW) at 4,400 rpm    255 lbft (346 Nm) at 2,800 rpm    SCPI    9.2:1    L35    1
19992002    200 hp (150 kW) at 4,600 rpm    260 lbft (353 Nm) at 2,800 rpm    SCPI    9.2:1    L35    7

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Again, it boils down to what you like.

260 lbs of torque at 2800 RPM looks like it would be plenty adequate for on-the-road, or serious fun-filled 4-wheeling.

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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #33 on: Mar 05, 2017, 12:19:23 PM »
That's funny because I had a 1984 with 22re because the manufacturing date was closer to 1985... so yeah there's that and yeah a 1984 late model could have a turbo engine if they offered a 22re late year as well.

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Here in the U.S., the model year starts on January 1st of the year before, and while technically manufacturers could be selling 2018 models now, most will wait until late Summer/earl Fall, and any "new models/or options" offered before then would be '17.5 model years.  Your 4-Runner w/a late '84 production date would have been an '85 model year vehicle, not an '84, and any 4-Runner w/an '85 production date and a 22rte would have been an '86 model year Runner w/IFS.

Wiki isn't considered to be a citable source so I wouldn't take it as fact that all '84 model year Runners only came with a 22r, it may have not been a manufacture option but it could have been a custom dealer option.   The '84 model year 2wd's were available with a rudimentary version of the 22re, it had the EFI intake, injectors, and ecu, but had the carb. distributor, no knock sensor/vsv/diagnostic port, so it would have been available for the dealer to swap one if he or a customer wanted it.
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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #34 on: Mar 05, 2017, 03:53:32 PM »
86 model years could be made in 86.     My 22RE SR5 Xtracab manufacture date is June 1986 and it's a 86 model..
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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #35 on: Mar 05, 2017, 04:34:31 PM »
86 model years could be made in 86.     My 22RE SR5 Xtracab manufacture date is June 1986 and it's a 86 model..

Model used to change in September I believe and now it's became sooner and sooner.

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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #36 on: Mar 05, 2017, 07:15:35 PM »
86 model years could be made in 86.     My 22RE SR5 Xtracab manufacture date is June 1986 and it's a 86 model..
Makes sense, it would have arrived stateside with enough time to clear customs, be shipped to dealers, and sold prior to the '87 model year roll out.

I wish there was an 85 turbo 22RTE 4runner, but there's not
A straight axle 22rte Runner would be the Unicorn of 4-Runners, even rarer than the rarest muscle cars.
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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #37 on: Mar 05, 2017, 10:54:04 PM »
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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #38 on: Mar 06, 2017, 01:37:12 AM »
I guess 4Wheeler mag listed the years and engine specs in this article wrong?  :dunno:

http://www.fourwheeler.com/how-to/131-9706-buying-a-used-toyota-pickup/

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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #39 on: Mar 06, 2017, 01:57:17 AM »
Toyota Motors in Japan manufactured a 22RE engine in 1983 and a 22R-TE engine in 1984 - based upon Toyota's designated engine codes.

Whether or not they ended up in a registered Toyota pickup or 4Runner for those years I don't know.

I believe the 1984 model year and titled 4x4 I test drove, with a 22RE engine, was a swap in.  The truck had evidence that it had been in deep water.

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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #40 on: Mar 06, 2017, 02:07:27 AM »


... The '84 ... the 22re, it had the EFI intake, injectors, and ecu, but had the carb...

Injectors and a carburetor?   :dunno:

Is that the 22RE-C?

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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #41 on: Mar 06, 2017, 07:13:21 AM »
Toyota did put the early 22RE Turbo in cars.  Mainly, Celica and Supra before they ever ended up in the trucks.  That is why when they give engine codes and timelines when they came out, it will show the turbo model showing up in 84.  Remember, the 22RTE that was put in the truck/runner chassis in 86, was a direct result of the Nissan Hardbody that came out in 1986.5 with their V6!  This is the only reason Toyota ever put a turbo in their trucks.
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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #42 on: Mar 06, 2017, 03:53:20 PM »
Toyota Motors in Japan manufactured a 22RE engine in 1983 and a 22R-TE engine in 1984 - based upon Toyota's designated engine codes.

Whether or not they ended up in a registered Toyota pickup or 4Runner for those years I don't know.

I believe the 1984 model year and titled 4x4 I test drove, with a 22RE engine, was a swap in.  The truck had evidence that it had been in deep water.

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The 22re was available in Celica in '81, bit not the trucks until the '84 model year.

Injectors and a carburetor?   :dunno:

Is that the 22RE-C?

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Might want to read things a little more carefully before posting at 2am, I wrote "carb. distributor", not the "carburetor".



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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #43 on: Mar 06, 2017, 06:28:58 PM »
this is wrong

really, you can't just admit you're wrong

No one is arguing that an 84 pickup could have had the 22re, but good try to change the subject of you being wrong


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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #44 on: Mar 06, 2017, 06:46:32 PM »
The 22re was available in Celica in '81...

Can you show me anything that can substantiate that?

[quote ..I wrote "carb. distributor", not the "carburetor"...[/quote]

Yes, I re-read your post and thought you were saying "carburetor", not C.A.R.B distributor... assuming your "carb" was meaning California Air Resources Board, since I have never heard of a C.A.R.B distributor, I was confused, and simply asked for your clarification.  Then I realized you mean carb distributor like the distributor that is on a 22R... Have I got that correct?

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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #45 on: Mar 06, 2017, 06:51:09 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Celica#Third_generation_.28A60.3B_1981.E2.80.931985.29

looks like it started being built in 81, but was a 82 model year
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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #46 on: Mar 06, 2017, 06:54:31 PM »
Little more digging

first 22re would be august 1982

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_R_engine#22R
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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #47 on: Mar 06, 2017, 07:00:37 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Celica#Third_generation_.28A60.3B_1981.E2.80.931985.29

looks like it started being built in 81, but was a 82 model year

Thank you.

Yep, that's what it looks like to me.

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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #48 on: Mar 07, 2017, 12:06:33 AM »
Yes, I re-read your post and thought you were saying "carburetor", not C.A.R.B distributor... assuming your "carb" was meaning California Air Resources Board, since I have never heard of a C.A.R.B distributor, I was confused, and simply asked for your clarification.  Then I realized you mean carb distributor like the distributor that is on a 22R... Have I got that correct?

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Yes, carb. as in carburetor.
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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #49 on: Mar 13, 2017, 08:45:47 PM »
Scored a rebuilt head this weekend from a family friend, been sitting on a shelf for 7 years so its super dirty, gonna have it hot tanked and new valve seals installed. Also started ordering some other parts and stuff (timing set,  water pump, oil pump, whole engine gasket set). Hopefully I'll be able to find time this coming weekend to pressure wash the engine so I can start tearing it down
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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #50 on: Mar 15, 2017, 09:25:40 PM »
Parts stockpile growing, full gasket set, new water pump, oil pump, timing chain/guides/sprockets, timing cover. Hopefully the head is done being cleaned up tomorrow. I'd post a picture but all of them are too big
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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #51 on: Mar 16, 2017, 07:20:21 AM »
Did you get new head studs?  And I would recommend a OEM gasket from 22REPerformance.  And they have really good Exhaust gaskets too! 

I bought a Fel Pro kit and almost all the gaskets ended up in the trash.  I only used the ones for the intake.  The exhaust gasket blew out on startup.  :mad:
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« Reply #52 on: Mar 16, 2017, 09:15:01 AM »
New head bolts came with the gasket set, and yeah I had planned on getting a better head gasket than the one that came in the kit
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« Reply #53 on: Mar 16, 2017, 08:08:04 PM »
I spent $125 for a Fel Pro kit and I used 2 gaskets.  And the exhaust gasket blew out on start up!   :shake_head:
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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #54 on: Mar 17, 2017, 09:30:09 PM »
I'm wondering if maybe you just got a defective set?
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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #55 on: Mar 17, 2017, 09:33:21 PM »
Also my dad picked up the "new" head from the machine shop earlier, the seven years of buildup of grease and lawn clippings (it sat on a shelf under a friends workbench who has a landscaping business after he rebuilt it and then bought a new engine) cleaned up nicely
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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #56 on: Mar 18, 2017, 03:40:28 AM »
I spent $125 for a Fel Pro kit and I used 2 gaskets.  And the exhaust gasket blew out on start up!   :shake_head:

Anything is possible, but 9X% of exhaust manifold or header leaks is not the failure of the gasket.

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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #57 on: Mar 18, 2017, 06:27:16 AM »
I had a gut feeling once I saw the exhaust gasket, that I didn't like it.  Thin cardboard, with a little bit of metal around the openings.  Plus the air injection port holes were offset with the holes in the head, and manifold.   
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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #58 on: Mar 18, 2017, 11:20:23 AM »
I had a gut feeling once I saw the exhaust gasket, that I didn't like it.  Thin cardboard, with a little bit of metal around the openings.  Plus the air injection port holes were offset with the holes in the head, and manifold.

Air injection port holes? Last I checked the fuel injected models don't have air injection, at least neither of the ones at my house do.
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Re: 22re full rebuild
« Reply #59 on: Mar 18, 2017, 04:13:22 PM »
Air injection port holes? Last I checked the fuel injected models don't have air injection, at least neither of the ones at my house do.

But the head and manifold can go either way.    With no air injection, you have 2 cover plates.

So the same gasket is used for air or no air injection.
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