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Free hanging 205?
« on: Jun 05, 2016, 09:18:42 AM »
Did some searching, but couldn't find much.  I'm very new to toyotas, been reading up as much as I can.  I'm going to build a hunting rig, I have a 94 22re, one ton rear, but my D-60 up front is from a Ford, ( driver drop) so, trying to stay on a budget, the "lefty" t cases are pricy, so I was thinking about hanging a Ford divorced 205 behind the Toyota t case with a short shaft.  Anybody do this??   ( I'll be running 45" ag tires)
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Re: Free hanging 205?
« Reply #1 on: Jun 05, 2016, 09:43:17 AM »
A had a friend ghetto one up like that in high school. It worked but wasn't pretty. By the time you buy a 205, have a rear shaft built and balanced, a front shaft built, and an intermediate shaft built and balanced... you'll have more invested than you would by just selling your ford 60 and getting a gm or dodge 60. My $.02 take it with a grain of salt.
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Re: Free hanging 205?
« Reply #2 on: Jun 05, 2016, 09:51:55 AM »
Well noted Red Neck.  Been tossing around all the different combos.  I'll keep looking for a deal on the different D60.  Mean while I have just about all the arts needed.    ( build my own drive shafts ).   Thanks for the advise

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Re: Free hanging 205?
« Reply #3 on: Jun 05, 2016, 09:57:44 AM »
I was looking into a Lefty just a couple days ago because I was about to buy a SAS Tacoma that needed duals. I was told the lefty has as serious oil starvation problem and was advised against it.

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Re: Free hanging 205?
« Reply #4 on: Jun 05, 2016, 10:11:57 AM »
Good info, thanks

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Re: Free hanging 205?
« Reply #5 on: Aug 25, 2016, 05:42:47 AM »
I was looking into a Lefty just a couple days ago because I was about to buy a SAS Tacoma that needed duals. I was told the lefty has as serious oil starvation problem and was advised against it.

Just curious... what is the problem with the oil starvation?
I've had my Inch Worm Lefty for 3 years and no issues. I did need to have the rear output bearing replaced due to a drive line issue but that's it.

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Re: Free hanging 205?
« Reply #6 on: Aug 25, 2016, 05:59:50 AM »
Just curious... what is the problem with the oil starvation?
I've had my Inch Worm Lefty for 3 years and no issues. I did need to have the rear output bearing replaced due to a drive line issue but that's it.

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Just what I was told. Don't have any first have experience with one.

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Re: Free hanging 205?
« Reply #7 on: Aug 25, 2016, 06:03:50 AM »
I did have a couple oil leaks in the adapter plate though.  I didn't bottom the supplied allen plugs enough.  Once I figured that out, no leaks whatsoever.
Awesome upgrade for sure.

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Re: Free hanging 205?
« Reply #8 on: Aug 25, 2016, 09:59:03 AM »
why not run a dana 300? they can be rotated to driver drop
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Re: Free hanging 205?
« Reply #9 on: Aug 25, 2016, 10:31:34 AM »
Tacoma w58?
Sand, what fun, drop pressure to 12psi, stock tires are still digging, can't afford to get stuck, 8psi, still not working. Find a place to GET OUT, air up, un-lock hubs,  WAIT whats this, hubs are UN-LOCKED already. 2wd, 8psi, stock tires, Oregon sand dunes.

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Re: Free hanging 205?
« Reply #10 on: Aug 30, 2016, 10:58:56 PM »
why not run a dana 300? they can be rotated to driver drop
Good idea, I don't know much about these,  seems like they are a bit lighter than a 205,  I'll have to do some research on the 300. Thanks

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Re: Free hanging 205?
« Reply #11 on: Aug 30, 2016, 11:01:06 PM »
Tacoma w58?
isn't the w58 a chain driven case?  Reall want to stick with a gear case while running the big Ag tires.  I may be wrong on the strength however.

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Re: Free hanging 205?
« Reply #12 on: Aug 30, 2016, 11:49:19 PM »
the w58 is a transmission
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Re: Free hanging 205?
« Reply #13 on: Aug 31, 2016, 06:45:55 AM »
the w58 is a transmission
holy cow, good thing I said I was new in my first post,  oops. :hammerhead:

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Re: Free hanging 205?
« Reply #14 on: Aug 31, 2016, 09:41:36 AM »
the w58 is a transmission the transfer case behind it is a chain drive case.

If you are running a 22re and not running dual cases... its going to take you a while to destroy that chain drive case. I am actually curious how much HP it will take to spin those tires on just smooth flat ground.
I am pretty sure that they use the same chain drive transfer case behind the 3.4 v6 which puts out almost twice the power 190 hp and 220 ft lbs of torque VS the 108hp and  140 ft lbs of torque that your 22re puts out.   

Is your truck a regular cab or an extra cab? I am wondering, since I feel you are going to run some lift, if running a divorced 205 from a ford wouldn't be a bad idea.
If you have an extra cab, you could probably keep your stock transmission and transfer case. Remove your shift interlock pin, use your front toyota transfer case output as a PTO. run a jack shaft down to the 205 with the 205 mounted lower to keep all your driveshaft angles better. I wouldnt recommend this setup on a shorter regular cab without actually taking measurements myself.
Sand, what fun, drop pressure to 12psi, stock tires are still digging, can't afford to get stuck, 8psi, still not working. Find a place to GET OUT, air up, un-lock hubs,  WAIT whats this, hubs are UN-LOCKED already. 2wd, 8psi, stock tires, Oregon sand dunes.

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Re: Free hanging 205?
« Reply #15 on: Sep 05, 2016, 09:57:10 AM »
Yes it's an ext. cab.  And yes I will need a fair bit of lift to help clear the tall tires.  I will bob and likely dove the bed, or fab a tube rear frame.  I'm leaning toward a single link front and rear for simplicity.  I'm not a true rock crawler but like the idea of a lot of flex / droop to help the ride.  This will be used primarily for hunting, crawling steep tundra and brush covered hills filled with tussocks ( big grass/dirt knobs) .  Leaf would be simple, but I'm a little nervous of a harsh ride and not enough droop / flex.    Like I say, I'm really new to this.    Onto the t case,  I'll need duel cases for sure, my thought was to hang the 205 as close to the stock toy gear case as possible with a short drive shaft, roll the 205 just enough to allow the front shaft to clear.    Not sure what you mean about the interlock pin.  I assume this would allow me to use the front output as an aux. drive? Like for a hydraulic pump? 

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Re: Free hanging 205?
« Reply #16 on: Sep 05, 2016, 08:38:13 PM »
It would let you be able to engage low without having the front Toyota output shaft spinning.
You should be able to do it.
Have you seen pictures of the high roller cars in Louisiana?
The ones with the 28" wheels?
As long as you feel it will work for what you need it for, I say go for it. Shoot, with the ground clearance you will have, you could mount a harbor freight 12k generator head to that output for use while camping.... J/k though
Sand, what fun, drop pressure to 12psi, stock tires are still digging, can't afford to get stuck, 8psi, still not working. Find a place to GET OUT, air up, un-lock hubs,  WAIT whats this, hubs are UN-LOCKED already. 2wd, 8psi, stock tires, Oregon sand dunes.

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Re: Free hanging 205?
« Reply #17 on: Sep 06, 2016, 12:08:41 PM »
Why not just rotate the pinions? I ran mine on the interstate at 70mph all the time. It was 60s with 54" tires. Single toyota 4.7 case. Never broke a u joint. Just axle shafts.
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Re: Free hanging 205?
« Reply #18 on: Sep 06, 2016, 05:39:27 PM »
I think he needs the driver offset. This gets him long case duals and a drivers offset for "cheap" other than fabbing up mounts and all three new driveshafts
Sand, what fun, drop pressure to 12psi, stock tires are still digging, can't afford to get stuck, 8psi, still not working. Find a place to GET OUT, air up, un-lock hubs,  WAIT whats this, hubs are UN-LOCKED already. 2wd, 8psi, stock tires, Oregon sand dunes.

 
 
 
 
 

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