Topic: Safety on the trail or offroad darwin awards

[Gamera]

we need to think more safety on the trail or offroad darwin award winners

we just had two men killed on a trail around here, the had all the safety equipment but they did not use them

http://kernrivervalley.bakersfieldnow.com/content/2-die-canyon-crash
http://www.kvsun.com/articles/2010/06/05/news/update/doc4c09c6004e226372309877.txt
Friday, June 4th
TWO MEN ARE DEAD, AFTER THEIR JEEP ROLLED DOWN IN THE KERN RIVER CANYON. THE ACCIDENT HAPPENED JUST AFTER SIX TONIGHT OFF HIGHWAY 178 ... ON THE DELANO FOUR BY FOUR JEEP TRAIL. THE C-H-P SAYS THE JEEP WAS COMING DOWN THE TRAIL, WHEN IT SUDDENLY ROLLED 200 FEET.  TWO MEN-BOTH FROM SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA-INSIDE THE JEEP WERE THROWN OUT. THE JEEP FINALLY CAME TO REST IN FRONT OF A TREE. BOTH MEN DIED AT THE SCENE. THE C-H-P SAYS THE VICTIMS WERE NOT WEARING THEIR SEAT BELTS
The California Highway Patrol says Benca Kadar of Irvine and Thomas Alan Johnson of Corona died when their Jeep rolled down the side of the Kern River Canyon.The crash occurred just after 6 Friday night off Highway 178 on a 4-by-4 trail.Their vehicle rolled about 200 feet, according to the CHP.
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so post your good safety idels and sugestion, or to push safety point 4x4 darwin award want to be winners.

[Rocksurfer]

Don't wheel alone, I know we are all guilty of this but always try to have another rig there. May have saved them, probably not in this case but I've had a couple times that I've come across people wheeling over their heads and in trouble. Of course I was alone those two times so eh.

[axled89]

x2 or more on the rigs idea.  been there my self.   safety in numbers.

[Snowtoy]

Don't wheel alone, ................. May have saved them, probably not in this case but.........

According to the article they were traveling w/a group who witnessed the accident.  The only thing that would have gave them a chance would have been wearing their seat belts.  As our hobby has grown, it is far more common to see people nit wearing seat belts than those that do.  I know most of my friends don't, and a few of them have already been in more than one roll over.  I think most people think w/such a slow speed, not much can happen by not wearing a seat belt.

No seat belt=easy Darwin Award Nominee.

[Gamera [OP]]

another jeep rolled in the same spot 3 months back the guy had a seat belt on and walked away =[

[wifesaysimadumbass]

most guys pregnant dog about the shoulder belt interfering with their visibility on the trail.  i just went and got a center lap belt from another truck at a boneyard and now no excuses

[Snowtoy]

Don't see how the belt interferes w/visibility, unless they are the type that are constantly hanging out the door to see where they are going.

[Rocksurfer]

Sometimes the shoulder belt bothers my shoulder when wheeling a long time bouncing around in the cab. In areas that there is no issue I'll slide it behind my back leaving the lap attached, but if it gets tough I'll slip it back across my chest for safety. Just a standard lap belt may not keep you in your vehicle.