These are the "super boy-howdy" fabricated plate steel knuckles. About as strong as you can get, with only 2 runs on them. I reeeeally wanted to run these but am fighting some serious steering clearance issues and am forced to go with a low tie-rod. These are hi-steer only knuckles. Price new was $175 ea. asking $250 for the pair. I can throw in a set of 6 lug D44 outers (Big spindle, wheel hub, newish rotor/bearings) with toy lugs and lug nuts.