Author Topic: Cheap twin stick for single toyota gear case forward shift. (Read 10542 times)

skid · « **on:** Jun 15, 2006, 05:01:33 PM »

Made a twin stick for "free" out of the spare parts I had. Would only work for a single gear case with forward shift. Steal a top shift fork/rail from friend who did duals. Pull the interlock pin and run one forward shift for high/low and top shift for 2/4wd.

Wermz84 · « **Reply #1 on:** Jun 15, 2006, 05:12:13 PM »

sounds cool.. Lets see some

skid · « **Reply #2 on:** Jun 15, 2006, 07:16:28 PM »

Some key stock still needs to be welded to the forward shift rail to keep the shifter engaged.
The rails would be switched if your getting leftovers from a friend who went duals.

kyle_22r · « **Reply #3 on:** Jun 15, 2006, 11:58:41 PM »

before twin sticks came out, some guys ground the shift rails and removed the interlock pill. this let you get into 2-low with a single stick, as you can shift the rails independantly. i hear it also makes a good theft deterrant because if you don't know how to shift it like that, and it's in neutral, it's hard to figure out.

4RnrRick · « **Reply #4 on:** Jun 16, 2006, 01:24:13 PM »

I made a picture to explain this since it took me a second to figure out what was going on....

I like the idea!

Wermz84 · « **Reply #5 on:** Jun 16, 2006, 02:58:59 PM »

Nice work on the pics. really helps the concept.

Quote from: skid on Jun 15, 2006, 07:16:28 PM

Some key stock still needs to be welded to the forward shift rail to keep the shifter engaged.
The rails would be switched if your getting leftovers from a friend who went duals.

Nice work!! $Beer Chug\'n$

Weldo · « **Reply #6 on:** Jun 17, 2006, 07:19:03 PM »

This is an awesome idea! I'd love to have twin sticks but thought I couldn't have it til now. I'm not real familiar with the insides of a Toy T-case, anyone have pics of the forks and rails you need to change, and parts that need welded?

skid · « **Reply #7 on:** Jun 17, 2006, 09:10:37 PM »

Marlin's tech support page has tons of info. Great place to get a idea of what's what. The shift forks need some metal welded to them similar to a dual case setup. Keeps the shifter from floating around.

Weldo · « **Reply #8 on:** Jun 18, 2006, 06:04:25 PM »

Weldo · « **Reply #9 on:** Jun 18, 2006, 07:20:48 PM »

I'm guessing to get 2-lo with one stick, this is where you would grind another groove.

skid · « **Reply #10 on:** Jun 19, 2006, 02:38:28 PM »

Quote from: Weldo on Jun 18, 2006, 07:20:48 PM

I'm guessing to get 2-lo with one stick, this is where you would grind another groove.

I believe it's like this

kyle_22r · « **Reply #11 on:** Jun 19, 2006, 07:42:22 PM »

actually, with 2-lo, you remove the part of the shift rod that keeps you from crossing back over to 2wd when you're in neutral or low range(the slots misalign so you can't move the shifter over).

shifting to 4lo is a 2 part deal with this setup -- you bring the shifter towards the left and shift down, then bring it to the right and push up to bring the box into low range. to get into 2lo from 2hi, just bring the shifter to the right and up.

skid · « **Reply #12 on:** Jun 19, 2006, 09:17:36 PM »

Quote from: kyle_22r on Jun 19, 2006, 07:42:22 PM

actually, with 2-lo, you remove the part of the shift rod that keeps you from crossing back over to 2wd when you're in neutral or low range(the slots misalign so you can't move the shifter over).

I've seen it done that way also. My initial thought was, is there enough throw and how sloppy is the shifting going to be. A loose shifter's create both ways. No matter how you look at it, it's not a precision setup. I won't give up my Marlin twin stick though.

Weldo · « **Reply #13 on:** Jun 21, 2006, 09:20:38 AM »

I read that Marlin's twin stick won't work with forward shift T-cases. Is there a way to make it work?

BigMike · « **Reply #14 on:** Jun 21, 2006, 09:31:05 AM »

This is because the base on forward shift transmissions are either a one-piece transmission + t/case base, or it has a different bolt and flange pattern. A Twin Stick could be designed to work with forward shift rails, and the shifter base would also most likely need to be modified.

BigMike

Weldo · « **Reply #15 on:** Jun 21, 2006, 09:35:39 AM »

I notice the twin stick kit is available for forward shift T-cases from 1984-1988, If I got a twin stick for my 91 (with a W56C I believe) would my only modification be redrilling some mounting holes for the plate or possibly making an adapter plate?

Weldo · « **Reply #16 on:** Jun 27, 2006, 08:19:24 AM »

Can anyone tell me why Marlin's twin stick can be used with 84-88 forward shift T-cases but not with forward shift cases from 89-95? What's the difference?

skid · « **Reply #17 on:** Jun 27, 2006, 02:48:27 PM »

Quote from: Weldo on Jun 27, 2006, 08:19:24 AM

Can anyone tell me why Marlin's twin stick can be used with 84-88 forward shift T-cases but not with forward shift cases from 89-95? What's the difference?

The 89-95 w56 trans shifter base has a integrated t-case shifter. It's one piece so it can't be replaced with the twin stick base.

Weldo · « **Reply #18 on:** Jun 29, 2006, 09:19:22 AM »

Would the twin stick wowrk with a W56 if I found a way to mount it? I mean , assuming it could be mounted somehow, would it still function properly? Sorry about this thread getting a little off topic...

skid · « **Reply #19 on:** Jun 29, 2006, 02:36:39 PM »

Quote from: Weldo on Jun 29, 2006, 09:19:22 AM

Would the twin stick wowrk with a W56 if I found a way to mount it? I mean , assuming it could be mounted somehow, would it still function properly? Sorry about this thread getting a little off topic...

Alot of work and I suppose you could weld the twin stick base too the w56 c/d shifter base. Way too much work in my opinion.. I'd hate to spend the money and screw it up let alone weld on the twin stick base. Much simpler to find a shifter and top shift fork and do what I did in this thread.

Weldo · « **Reply #20 on:** Jun 29, 2006, 08:23:10 PM »

yeah, i hear ya. I don't think I need twin sticks that bad... Thanks for all your advice though!

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