Topic: 22re+th350?

[olemisstoy88]

This is my first post here, so here goes. I have a 2wd 88 toy with 22re I would like to keep my 22re but install a th350 chevy tranny what all do I need. like will i need new driveshafts? a starter? please help me out here. I have been combing the internet looking for this plate. cant find it anywhere. I have seen them though, and all But my toy tranny wont cut it. Plus its way too expensive to rebuild. I have a slightly modded 22re with 33x10.50's and 4.56's it is a 2wd I use it as my daily driver and playtoy. used for trails and mud, no rocks or sand. any help would be greatly apperciated. Also about how much will this endevor set me back thanks.
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[jimbo74]

so what exactly is the problem? the toyota trannies are pretty stout... and can handle quite a bit of abuse, plus they are easy to find someone whos got one also.... i jsut replaced my tranny, yesterday in fact..... my truck has a 22r, and its 2wd..... i broke the output shaft due to one main reason, not that it wanst strong enough, but because i drive, well, very spirited.....

i have never seen an adapter to convert a chevy turbo hydamatic 350 to the toyota 2Xr series engines... that tranny is really overkill for an engine pushing maybe 130 hp with mods.....

if it matters, my truck is a 85 with 22r pushing a tad over 100 hp, 31" tires, and 3.07 gears with a marlin 1600 conventional clutch.....

toyta made things similar.... you can swap in a tranny from an old supra.. a w58, the hgearing changes a little bit, but a negligible amount, and its stronger... you will need to drill a new hole in the floor for the shifter as its a little further back however... but everything else will bolt up as long as you swap the bellhousing form your current tranny to the supra tranny.....

[olemisstoy88 [OP]]

I need a shock proof tranny. I broke a sprag in mine jumping a ditch.  I was looking for a cost effective way to solve this. I have been looking for a 2wd toy tranny in my area, all of the shops want 2000 for a rebulid and will give me no warrenty. 2k seems kinda high. I got a al460e redone for 974 so. I was thinking about using the 350 cause eventually i wanna go with a 350 sbc anyhow. I have seen bellhousing plate adapters on pirate4x4 and have herad of a few. I was hoping some one on here has and could point me in the right place.

[Rocksurfer]

Have you tryed Advanced Adapters, if anyone would have a conversion they would.

[olemisstoy88 [OP]]

mines column shift. too if that helps. I think I broke some thing there too. You can change the position of the shift linkage by twishing the linkage. pop it out of reverse to drive with a twist of your wrist

[jimbo74]

not sure what marlin charges for a rebuilt tranny, but they do awesoem work and are a great company, and the 4x4 units are around $1k

i was quoted $1k for a tranny rebuild by a couple of local shops as well....

the tranny i am using right now is from a 90-91 2wd toyota truck with a 22re, its a 5 speed.. i beleive it is the w55

honestly, if you are waiting to drop in a sbc, then i would personally just wait to swap the tranny in at the same time, then all you will need to worry about is the crossmember, and shifter issues....

it isnt cost effective t odo it with a for now adapter in my opinion because if you can find it, that adapter will probably cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $500

[olemisstoy88 [OP]]

I called them and they said they only do 4x4 stuff, they were kinda short with me.
Id really like to do this I aldreay have a build tranny at the shop.  I called LCE they know what I am talking about and are making a prototype. but it wont be ready for 4 weeks.

[olemisstoy88 [OP]]

yeah its 500 for the adapter,flexplate? and everthing, But I think I wont need a new starter.

[jimbo74]

marlin and crew were awesome to me..... and they knew my truck was a 4x2.....

you have an automatic? that might have been the issue, i know they rebuild the manual trannies....   as far as automatic that changes things a lot..... a rebuild for any automatic anything usually runs around $2k

having said that, i would then wait for lce's prototype but honestly wont beleive a word of what they say, we are making on for it until i see one... way too many companies say they are prototyping something when in reality dont care and have no plans to ever do it.... a lot of large corporations jsut tell the customer what they want to hear....

as i said before... you have an already built tranny, great... wait for the new engien and toss it all i nthere together, then you wont have to spend $500 on a adapter..... thats jsut going to not get used when you do the 350 sbc engine.... around here, sbcs are pletiful, you can probably get one for $500!

[olemisstoy88 [OP]]

iss the swap pretty difficult?

[olemisstoy88 [OP]]

I have solid motor mounts and a lot of stuff like that are solids of the 350 gonna cause too much vibration?

[jimbo74]

i havent doen one, but there are companies that sell the sbc motor swap kits... the main issue will be dealign with wiring.... you are going to need either a donor vehicle harness and ecu basically..... and going to need to tap it into the toyota system,well, maybe not depending on what needs to be setup... you will need the ecu though of a 350 if going FI

once you have the mortor mounted, its jsut a new transmission mount basically... and some custom driveshaft work..... plus you gotta figure out your shift linkage or shifter....

i wouldnt attempt it myself, but with a competent welder and a little research it probably wont be that bad.....

[olemisstoy88 [OP]]

well can i put a stick shift in my truck for temporary purposes?
it pretty much is the way the auto is right now.

[jimbo74]

im sure you can easily put a manual tranny in your truck, eitehr a w46 or a w55.... you can also put in a w58 from an older non turbo supra....

i dont know firsthand about the automatic trucks, but the crossmember is probably in the same place as teh amnuals.... you will need to drill a hole in the floor for the shifter... and also will need to put a clutch and brake pedal assemblies.... shouldnt be too bad... i think there are soem threads here about converting a stick to a manual...and vice versa, as its a pretty common swap to do that

[olemisstoy88 [OP]]

thanks you have been really insightful. I just gotta figure out something though.

[olemisstoy88 [OP]]

hmmm yeah I would at this point just like something and not the inbetween that I have.

[kyle_22r]

nobody makes an adapter from a toy 4cyl>th350 afaik.  besides, would you rather have your 115hp engine only putting 60 to the wheels?