Topic: 22r timing

[ajschwartzp15]

Coming from my experience with comp and crane (i have ran both in big block and small block gm engines). If they say the springs are required then you better darn well be sure to run their recommended springs. I've had no issue personally because when i ordered the cam I got lifters and springs. Obviously 22r has no lifter but the spring theory still holds true. They know what their cam requires. I have seen quite a few guys in the marine world try to do a quick cam swap to get a lopey idle and more top end rpm/torque and skimp out on replacing the valves. Guess what, it doesn't work. Valves floating at the upper rpm, valves not fully seating at idle and having to idle engine way up high. The list of negatives goes on and on.

Swap the springs and go from there. 

Well I suppose the heads coming back off. I cant remove the rocker assembly without the head studs...

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[Gnarly4X]

Well I suppose the heads coming back off. I cant remove the rocker assembly without the head studs...

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Are you comparing this sound to any other 22?

Please describe how you adjusted the valve lash?

Are the rockers and rack from the same mileage?

Gnarls.

[ajschwartzp15 [OP]]

Are you comparing this sound to any other 22?

Please describe how you adjusted the valve lash?

Are the rockers and rack from the same mileage?

Gnarls.

Not directly comparing no.
The original motor wad mych quieter and though I have heard mossy of them chattering, I feel this is too much.

I used the cylinder order described in the manual and a .010 feeler guage just slight friction.

Yes the rockers and rack ate original 1986. But the adjustment dowels were changed.
I just find it hard to believe it should be do loud. Again I can feel the taps on the vc nuts as if something is reverberating through the vc hold down studs.

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[redneckcustoms13]

Run it with the valve cover off

[ajschwartzp15 [OP]]

What a mess id have, though I was considering it...
What's youre theory there?

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[redneckcustoms13]

You can watch what it is doing. It won't make a terribly large mess just don't rev it up or anything silly.

[ajschwartzp15 [OP]]

You can watch what it is doing. It won't make a terribly large mess just don't rev it up or anything silly.

Do you think the springs may not be the issue?
Also, that cam sprocket is going to fling oil so bad! lol

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[redneckcustoms13]

There may be more to it than just springs. The cam gear isn't going to sling a ton of oil if you don't bring it above idle

[ajschwartzp15 [OP]]

There may be more to it than just springs. The cam gear isn't going to sling a ton of oil if you don't bring it above idle

I agree
i meant  not the cam gear but the timing chain will

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[ajschwartzp15 [OP]]

Just a look at the alignment and whatnot

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[ajschwartzp15 [OP]]

So I just went out and checked valve lash cold and found that on some of the cylinders (which i set all to .010 hot)
We're loose enough to fit. 012 feeler into.
I would assume since people do propose setting cold lash at a tougher tolerance that since mine are cold they would be looser than the .010 set hot.
Anyways maybe i should set them all to
.010 cold and see how it sounds...

Thanks you guys for maintaining this thread with me. My father can no longer help me and I've owned this truck for 15 years and I just want to learn and make sure its right before I drive it.

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[redneckcustoms13]

That rocker assembly is filthy of old oil sludge. That's not good. If you go about replacing the springs I would definitely soak that in some mineral spirits and clean all that off

[ajschwartzp15 [OP]]

How motor sounds after initial warm-up

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V5pNDoViSwa8M8Tcv4ER8m5aFj3FMKFX/view?usp=drivesdk

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[ajschwartzp15 [OP]]

So i ran the motor with the valve cover off and the main clatter sound I was chasing doent seem to be from the rocker train area.
Really seems to be under, I'm thinking the valve springs may be on the right track...

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