Author Topic: 85' pickup Rock-crawler, mudder, and DD (Read 6098 times)

axel9615 · « **on:** Feb 18, 2004, 09:44:11 PM »

I want to do everything on this right the first time if I can, so I am planning ahead, and finding everything out that I can before I install the stuff...

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #1 on:** Feb 18, 2004, 09:51:38 PM »

Well i must say that you came to the right place. So whatcha done to the truck so far?
WT

Oh yea welcome noob.

axel9615 · « **Reply #2 on:** Feb 18, 2004, 10:00:31 PM »

Oops...lol
Truck: 1985 EFI 4cyl Toyota pickup 4x4
Plans (in order):
Fiberglass front fenders, bedsides, and custom bed and paint job
High cut fenders for added clearance
Interior redecoration done while exterior repairs as well as roll cage
Exterior or Interior cage??
5" Skyjacker kit with Johnny Joints (All Pro) or 5" Orbit Eye custom kit
What else do I need besides springs, brake lines, and drag link
3" Body lift with new crossmember and adapter to raise trans case
How do BL affect steering column and does the adapter work?
What else do I need to worry about when doing a BL?
dual trans case setup, plan to get complete adapter and 4.7 gears, I also will probably change my diff gears to 4.88 and get a detroit front and lockrite rear

**just wondering if the driveshafts will be ok if I wait until i do the dual setup...I don't want to get new ones for the suspension and then later having to replace them again for the dual trans case setup...

axel9615 · « **Reply #3 on:** Feb 18, 2004, 10:02:00 PM »

haven't started, just finding info to buy everything and do most at once so I don't have my truck down too long, and if I can prevent screwing something up or doing it more than once, I'd like too...lol

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #4 on:** Feb 18, 2004, 10:45:30 PM »

Dang youre planning on spending a chunk arent ya? That sounds like a pretty good list of mods. Whether or not your fenders will survive all depends on how seriously you plan on crawling. Id stick with a interior cage considering you are using it as a DD. On the suspension deal I like to use Junkyard stuff (I work at one!) but aor makes some killer stuff! I would get stainless lines for your brakes and crossover steering! A dropped draglink will NOT have enough travel for the type of suspension you are talking about. I have a BL on my 84 its not too bad there isnt a lot of stuff you need to worry about just take all the rubber covers out of your wheelwells so you can see if anything is getting stretched. Like fuel lines, brake lines etc. the transfer case setup will be the easiest thing to do according to your list. What gears you use will depend on the tire size you choose. On the driveline issue Id do the cases at the same time as the lift so that everything matches. You can get away with the stock drivelines with just the lift but you will be pulling your front one apart a lot! just dont get too extreme and it should be fine. Im not so sure about the detroitin the front it seems that everytime someone busts a birf they kill a detroit. The lockrite in the rear Im not so sure about either. If I was doing it Id spool the rear and put a l/c high pinion e-locker in the front, but thats just me.
Good luck on whatever you decide to do and lets see some pics of progress!
WT

84runner · « **Reply #5 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 09:59:53 AM »

Welcome Noob. Sounds like you got deep pockets and a lot of work ahead of you. And if your pockets are really deep go with the orbits instead of the skyjacker. You will be much happier. As for you fiberglass, You might want to think of an exo to protect them depending on how serious you get, but then again you said its a DD . And worse case if you do your lift without duals in you might have to do your front driveline. That should only run about $50.00 at a shop. Well keep us posted and have fun

NWyoat · « **Reply #6 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 10:28:19 AM »

yeah welcome

NWyoat · « **Reply #7 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 10:29:20 AM »

fronts are a little more than that

NWyoat · « **Reply #8 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 10:31:56 AM »

as far as the fiberglass I would steer clear, but that only my opinion. it is spendy and there is a hell of a lot more you could do. specialy with your pcokets

NWyoat · « **Reply #9 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 10:41:38 AM »

also I would go out and get some decent 31" tires leave it open front and rear and go out wheelin as much as possible. It will make you a better driver and will deffinately change your opinion on how you go about buildin your rig

axel9615 · « **Reply #10 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 11:15:52 AM »

I do want to keep the fiberglass, and my partner in fabrication has done cages and he likes exos better, plus they look badass anyway, so I may go with an exo...still in debate

As for suspension, I'm still kicking around some ideas with the johnny joints and superlift kit...hell of a lot cheaper, anyone have experience with the johnny joints??

I have also been looking at the All Pro Offroad extreme lift kit, seems steep, but it has everything I need, anyone try it out??

Forgot to mention the crossover steering, yeah definately will do that, along with U-Bolt flip and Shock relocation, anyone know if the spherical ends are legal in Ohio??...lol

The dual case is a little in the future...like maybe a year or so, along with the new cases marlin is working on...those things rock, so im gonna wait to do the drivelines unless i get some slip ones,

I dunno, can you get a driveshaft that would slip enough to change your transfer case down the road??

Red_Runner · « **Reply #11 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 11:38:40 AM »

hay bud my friend has the all pro kit and it rocks i cant wait tell i can aford the aor kit to see how they match up. about the lockers i would put that detroit in the rear and an ARB up front thats how i got mine done mines an 85 runner and the lift thing I have about 5in lift on mine and i had to get my front drive line done it cost me 60 cash at the local drive line shop it was nothing spectacular but i could wheel my ride. those finders look good but would be costly to replace if broken I wanted to get them when i got my first 4x4 but now when i can afford to do my exocage im pulling them off and running the cage there insted. just remember to do what you whant and good luck on doing it right the first time i tryed it its hard to do.Lets see some pics HAPPY WHEELIN

axel9615 · « **Reply #12 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 11:53:25 AM »

lol...true, i dont think there is a such thing as a first time, as for fenders my current ones are shot, so i need fenders, and i am gonna use it as a DD, so i cant go without

NWyoat · « **Reply #13 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 12:05:26 PM »

hey axel

axel9615 · « **Reply #14 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 12:07:20 PM »

Heres some pics...before of course, by the way I got this for only $750...runs great!!!

axel9615 · « **Reply #15 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 12:12:54 PM »

The guy who had id didn't know why so many people who called were asking about the solid front

axel9615 · « **Reply #16 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 12:14:21 PM »

Other side

axel9615 · « **Reply #17 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 12:15:55 PM »

I plan on moving this bumper up front, and I have a different custom, hollow bumper for the rear that is air tight, my way of a cheap compressor...lol

axel9615 · « **Reply #18 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 12:16:30 PM »

Lots of custom fabbing will be done on these bumpers to get the ones i want

NWyoat · « **Reply #19 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 12:19:52 PM »

yeah

NWyoat · « **Reply #20 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 12:23:59 PM »

Quote from: NWyoat on Feb 19, 2004, 12:19:52 PM

yeah

I hear that. god knows I have don some fabin in my day
I'de go with that rear bumper its got some good clearance.lol.
congrats on the $750 straight axel pickup.

axel9615 · « **Reply #21 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 12:31:51 PM »

im gonna move that rear up front, and i got a different one on the way...

axel9615 · « **Reply #22 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 12:33:35 PM »

im gonna put the other rear straight on the frame for more strength and more clearance

Red_Runner · « **Reply #23 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 03:32:03 PM »

hay i have some fenders they are off an 84 pickup let me know if your interested

84runner · « **Reply #24 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 05:59:38 PM »

By the look of those fenders and You being in Idaho it's probably a good idea in the fiberglass. Oh ya EXO cage kick ass

axel9615 · « **Reply #25 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 07:04:33 PM »

Idaho?? Im in Cincinnati, OHIO...lol

axel9615 · « **Reply #26 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 07:05:02 PM »

kinda sucks...nowhere to rock crawl really, and too many fast and furious ricers

84runner · « **Reply #27 on:** Feb 19, 2004, 07:21:37 PM »

Oh sorry I new it started with with an I

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