Author Topic: another 22re Q? (Read 4612 times)

dov'd85 · « **on:** Mar 26, 2006, 08:33:44 PM »

ok so went wheelin yesterday truck ran fine, until i got home and we went to this little spot i got water under the hood and the truck started runing bad shut it off and dried the cap and it ran fine, today went to start it and it won't run, looked at my plugs they are soaked and black... went and bought new one same thing with in a minute they were black and wet... i get codes 4,8, and 2.the weird thing is. my truck will run with out the map sensor plugged in but when i plug it in they truck won't run? and why are my plugs fouling out? also i messed with my truck all day and it was missing then not running , i finally got it to run took it up the hill and it started running bad and now it won;t run with the map sensor hooked up agian, and when it runs it misses really bad. i no this is alot at once... anything would be helpful

thanks

james

dov'd85 · « **Reply #1 on:** Mar 27, 2006, 12:39:06 PM »

so today i took apart the map sensor and fixxed a couple of broken wires, check engine light is off now, but it still runs like crap. and it is burning raw fuel, i checked all the plugs they are wet could the coil be bad? it runs it just runs really bad and missis big time.... i have spark just not much... could it be fuel related maybe a relay? runnin out of options

wa4x4 · « **Reply #2 on:** Mar 27, 2006, 02:58:57 PM »

Damn dude, that freakin sucks! You were going hard on saturday and it was running pretty well...hope you get it running well again so we can go wheelin again.

Now what have we learned...trails/rocks/whatever=good, mud=bad...

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #3 on:** Mar 27, 2006, 03:10:55 PM »

well first things first make sure U get every thing dry. pull all the ends of the plugs make shore their dry (at this point die-eletric grease would not be a bad idea) Also make shore your air filter is dry !!

Skinny_Pedal · « **Reply #4 on:** Mar 27, 2006, 03:42:51 PM »

did water get to your afm?

dov'd85 · « **Reply #5 on:** Mar 27, 2006, 04:35:08 PM »

everything is dry... took all plugs and dried them i pulled the afm apart and cleaned it then sealed it back up... i have no codes, tried a new coil that did nothing did a comp test 170 across.... not really sure what could be next? could the cap be bad? i unplugged the cold start injector and it did nothing, it runs without the afm hooked up, still runs bad and misses terrible, but when i plug the afm in the runs even worse? and it still smells like raw fuel when it is running? whats next pull the injectors? kinda stumped on this one i have spent 2days with no luck?

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #6 on:** Mar 27, 2006, 04:41:13 PM »

well check your sensor plugs/ injector plugs if water got in them it would causes a short... but U have no codes......

dov'd85 · « **Reply #7 on:** Mar 27, 2006, 04:46:51 PM »

ya i have no codes...but when i unplug the afm i get a code of course. other then that no not one code? that is why i am stuck?

BUBBA · « **Reply #8 on:** Mar 27, 2006, 04:50:22 PM »

Have you checked the cap again.It's possible that you didn't get all the moisture out.And after you parked it that night when the temp came down it created more moisture in the cap.Take the cap off and check,while you got it off you might take a air hose and blow the dist. out.

dov'd85 · « **Reply #9 on:** Mar 27, 2006, 04:53:28 PM »

bubba just cause you asked...

any other idea's? and why is my truck running with the afm unplugged?

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #10 on:** Mar 27, 2006, 05:01:54 PM »

how is your air filter ?...... and TPS........and..... just how wet are we talking here ? like a splash or like U swamped it ? I have suck water befor and have had what U are having I had to dry my plugs/cap and clean/re oil my K&N... and it cleard up. Granted it took a day or 2..

dov'd85 · « **Reply #11 on:** Mar 27, 2006, 05:05:23 PM »

i have a K&N pod filter it is fine not dirty or wet. i have not checked the tps because it should throw a code at me if something is wrong with it? it was not like i sunk the truck i went into the pound and splash over the hood then alot of steam and it started running like chit then i back out and cleaned he cap and it ran fine? what could i possible be missing? just cleaned the cap again did nothing...

BUBBA · « **Reply #12 on:** Mar 27, 2006, 05:07:48 PM »

Quote from: toyalaris21 on Mar 27, 2006, 04:53:28 PM

bubba just cause you asked...

any other idea's? and why is my truck running with the afm unplugged?

It shouldn't be running with it unplugged unless there's a short in the plug or something.

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #13 on:** Mar 27, 2006, 05:09:53 PM »

Dude clean and re oil your filter it might not look wet but it is.. just do it trst me use the force.

dov'd85 · « **Reply #14 on:** Mar 27, 2006, 05:15:29 PM »

the filter is not even on the truck.... i just took it off and it did nothing... i checked the plug wires today and they are all fine no corrision or anything....?

dov'd85 · « **Reply #15 on:** Mar 27, 2006, 05:19:42 PM »

ok so it is puffing white smoke...and there is no water in it.. it just smells like unburnt fuel... my next thought would be plugs but they are brand new and i just checked them...could the distributer itself be bad?

BUBBA · « **Reply #16 on:** Mar 27, 2006, 05:32:40 PM »

That don't sound good.You may have cracked the head when you splashed it with cold water.

dov'd85 · « **Reply #17 on:** Mar 27, 2006, 05:38:40 PM »

but if i had a cracked block wouldn't i smell burning water? man this is no good i am getting a new motor but not for 3 more weeks....?

dov'd85 · « **Reply #18 on:** Mar 28, 2006, 12:45:54 PM »

ok so today i redid all the grounds and found a couple bad ones fixxed um and it seamed like that was it..well i guess i was wrong....now it is shooting flames out of the exhaust it did this once before... but i changed the plugs and took the cat off and it ran fine..my first thought was timing but the timing it dead on??

Sandman · « **Reply #19 on:** Mar 28, 2006, 01:10:48 PM »

I had a friends motor start this after a day of wheeling. The spring in the AFM had broke flooding the motor with fuel. I would try to find another AFM and put it into your truck.
just my

dov'd85 · « **Reply #20 on:** Mar 28, 2006, 01:30:10 PM »

wouldn't that give me a code? could my distributer be bad?

Skinny_Pedal · « **Reply #21 on:** Mar 28, 2006, 04:22:31 PM »

the afm should be giving you a code. but you also said it runs wthout it. i would suggest replacing your afm with another just becuase it came in contact with water and they do not like that. you'd be amazed as to how much trouble that afm causes

dov'd85 · « **Reply #22 on:** Mar 28, 2006, 05:01:49 PM »

will do, just for the hell of it i pulled the intake chamber off....and it is full of black sludge...a good 1/4 inch thick on all sides... even the butterfly valve was covered. pulled the injectors and they are black... i guess all the oil i am burning finaly caught up with me? i am having the injectors cleaned and going to try it again...this motor only needs to last 3 more weeks... i guess thats not going to happen

wa4x4 · « **Reply #23 on:** Mar 28, 2006, 05:22:39 PM »

That seems to be a normal thing, you say to yourself "this only has to last a few more weeks" and then you beat on it until it dies. Hopefully you get it working again!

Skinny_Pedal · « **Reply #24 on:** Mar 28, 2006, 07:17:04 PM »

like a black milkshaky film? if so thats bad mojo usually meany a blown head gasket. this is starting to sound interesting. clean it out, replace the afm, go ahead and have the injectors cleaned, and hope for the best man

dov'd85 · « **Reply #25 on:** Mar 28, 2006, 10:09:59 PM »

no so much milkshake like there's water in it... i think it is just caused from all the oil i am burning.. ya i am having the injectors cleaned tomarrow.. and i am trying a afm and computer out of my buddies runner and hope that i find the problem...

james

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