NO   fram is all i run
wuts wrong wit them?

there only about half full of paper..Cut one open and look at how much paper is in it compared to a napa gold filter..
I think the napa gold filters are the best by far..I notice a huge differance in how claen my oil stays over time over any other filter..In my toyota powered sandrail i can go a weekend with my oil just starting to get dirty..With anyother filter I have used its flat out dirty before the weekend is over..In my ctd tow rig I get about an extra 1500 miles out of my oil with the napa filter over other brands..