thanks for the reply, i really have no intention of lifting the truck any higher than it is.  I had a lifted dodge full size before and it was overkill for what i was doing.  Which is mainly just fire roads, dirt roads and the snow we get here in tulsa.  i'm replacing my front springs cause they sag to much, i only have about 2 fingers between the leafs and bump stops, i was told i should be able to put 3-4 fingers in there.  Looks like i will be seeing if i can replace the bushing instead.