thanks for the info, i just wanted to make sure i wasn't missing a o-ring or gasket or something...79coyote thanks for the offer on the bolt and washer but i have a few extra bolts laying around so i'll see if they will work first before you go to the hassel of sending me one. Also thanks for the post on the ttora forum..ive been meaning to sign up there but have only been lurking for the moment.