thanks. i really appreciate the info. ill check those out and let you know what they are tomarrow. i would definitely keep the toy axles to sas my 4runner but as you can see in the pics i live in a double wide with barley any property so i cant keep stuff layin around. Also i just went down the street to a yard sale and picked up (4) 33/13.5/15R Super Swampers for $40. one is on a wheel and almost band new and the worst one is better than 80%. a little rash but great rollers until i can afford some 4Ds.