i've got the 1600 CERAMIC in my 84 22R and it's grabby as hell. it doesn't slip one bit. EVER! lol i use it as a daily driver and when it eats through my flywheel enough i'm gonna get a 1600 non ceramic. i've heard nothing but good stuff about it. also as a DD the ceramic is a bear and you've gotta get your RPMs good and high before you take off or take off slow.