Dudes: Thanks for all the input. Some great ideas. I looked at a two wheel drive T-100 that a guy has down the street yesterday but I don't think the back of the pan will clear the diff. pumpkin. However I got to thinking today about a T-100 4X4 oil pan and stopped some poor fellow on the street and he let me check his out. It has a concave area to allow for the center steering link, I think that it will work. As for lifting the body up that high, I'm sure that would work but I don't want that much elevation. I'm going to be using this rig for camping in primitive areas but I have to drive it there on the highways. So I don't want to get to radical. However looking at all the cool rigs that you guys have made and the fun you look like your having crawling around gives me ideas about making a crawler out of a 71 Hilux I have and an 81 4X4 chassis that's just sitting in the back yard. Maybe later first thiings first. Thanks again. Stoutman.