Sorry to hear about your leaking problem with the orbital, but it isn't terribly uncommon with orbitals. We have buttloads of the red tops at work and I already parked a few of them that were new last spring for leaking, and quite a few of them that just decided to take a dump. We still have some old red optimas floating around that are probably atleast five years old. I got lucky a couple of years ago and got three yellow optimas for free when a rich guy wanted to buy new ones as these were three years old. Nate
