thanks todd. and yea thats a good idea on taping the calls. im going to call my friend that is a cop and find out what the law is on that and on pickiting. im going to make a bunch of signs and all my friends and i are going to the location of the shop and hold up the signs. ill be off there property so i think it will be leagle...... cause you know you could just go there and beat his a** but that waont get you anywere but jail. so i need to hurt him in the pocket! lol you have anymore ideas?