right on iwas told the stock hangers where used on these but i guess not, hah. im trying to get this thing ready to tow to an exhaust shop so i just thru some add aleaves on today with the stock springs. it sits about even with the 44044's and i swaped in longer brake lines and im using the stock shocks for now. i have r99012's all the way around waiting in my garage. but i need to get to a place that has 220v so i can weld my shock hoops front and rear and now the new spring hangers. thanks for the info everyone!