FYI, per the scanner reports there was just a fixes wing tanker that lost an engine and "crash" landed in Big Bear behind the Vons.  Reports are that the Pilot is OK and walking around, but almost all of the air attack has been grounded due to the accident.

  Bad news.    I sure hope the pilot is ok. The Vons is on the east end of the lake near Fox Farms and near the little airport. I don't think that runway would be long enough for one of the tankers. The tankers fly out of the former Norton AFB. I have a friend of a friend who knows one of the pilots. Apparently they are a great group who certainly risk their lives to help others.