What about franklin?  Get the right guy and they both know what they're talking about and will actually make a solid effort to find it.  It's usually worth paying the couple extra bucks!  If you can get to the napa in slc, talk to rick only.  He's the ONLY one worth wasting your time with.  If you get bud, ask for rick.  When he says "I can help you", say "no you can't, is rick available?".