My shackles are at about 45 degrees on both. The 5" kit flexes really well, yet so does the 4". I have to clearance my front fenderwells because of running the 38's on the 1st gen but on the 3rd I only had to trim a little off the rear. The springs settled about an inch on the 3rd gen and on the 1st I still need to get a few good trail runs on it to make sure. The 5" is a little tall for me but the 38's don't help. When I took the picture in the sand I had JUST finished the lift so I threw the tires on and headed off the pavement as fast as I could to flex it out, so I didn't even realize two of the boggers were on backwards at first! But I had to pull them off again anyway right after so no biggie. I may be able to get some more pictures soon, But I'm a little predisposed half way around the world right now if you know what I mean.   I'll have someone email me some though. I think I have one of the steering gear as well as the extended shock towers that go into my engine compartment...