Ever hear the saying "You'll catch more flies with honey than you will with vinegar"? Seldom, if ever, will you convince anyone of you point of view, no matter how strong your position is, if you begin by telling them how stupid they are.

From a strictly financial standpoint you are, of course, correct. There is something to be said for the "security" of a new vehicle warranty.

that wasnt my intentions at all.....im sorry if anyone took it that way....what i meant to say is that personally, i would never buy a new car..... cant see the point....i mean my toyota has 300k and has less mechanical problems than many "new" cars....please dont think i was calling you stupid blackdiamond!

p.s. i voted for the mazda 3..just like the way they look