Well here are the quarter ellips from Alcan spring, got em mounted tonight, I used Grade 8 Bungees...only a fool would use anything less. Also picked up my Warn 9.5 TI and cut some more out of the front grille. Still gotta wire it ina nd mount it. As for the springs, I'm thinking of all kinds of lil ideas. Luckily I work with the Ex-Owner of AOR4x4 and an engineer for Portal-Tek. Things are getting confusing!