the 44044's are ranchos 2.5'' lift spring for a jeep wagoneer.  the center pin is at 22.5 off the front eye(same as stock toy fronts) but the spring has a lot of arch in it so the axle is forward a bit at ride height, but moves back when compressed flat...  theyre pretty darn tall and lift most toys like 5 inches or so. you dont need a drop hanger or anything unless you like nose bleeds from the high altitude theyre too tall, id put the bottom 3 44044's under some toy rear mains and build a little drop hanger with some beefy spring hangers....