wa, I've not crossed the updated forum over yet. I use FireFox exclusively and I can see the text "Turtle Points ###" and the options "[give] [take]" which is listed right above the Member's gender icon.
My give and take is missing too, I have both netscape and IE.
![I Dunno... :dunno:](https://board.marlincrawler.com/Smileys/marlin/dunno.gif)