I built my front springs using the stock rears and some 2 1/2 inch downey sorings i had..They are longer then stock fronts and move the front axle forward 2 inches..I used bud builts banna shackles..Wroks killer..i am very happy with it..I am running a 6 pack set up now in the fron but might add one more leaf up front and see what happens..It gave me about 4 1/4 inches of lift but with a 2in body lift and the axle forward I think is a pretty good set up..Keeps it low but still able to run bigger meats...