Oh yea, I believe I've said my piece on this and been clear enough on my views, so if ptl or anybody else has a beef with my strange way of looking at things logically then by all means, please pm me.
edit: also feel I must add, my daddy didn't buy me a truck, motorcycle or even bicycle when I was in school. I got a job between freshman and sohpomore years and began by working 7 days a week (I didn't know any better and my boss wasn't gonna tell me), then when school started I worked for a few hours after school and on saturdays, so that's 6 days a week. I did this all through the rest of highschool. I had to work for what I got, which gave me a greater pride for my belongings and more of a respect for all I had. Kudos to those of you who do the same, it will make you a better person