one of those freinds toybuilt was refering to was me, and to be honest, they flexed pretty well, where fairly cheap, and provided room for 35s----BUT---i later switched to toy rears up front and they flexed way more and where...free. also, those wrangler springs left me sideways in the middle of the little sluice starring at a brocken leaf spring-not as strong as i would hope. i then switched to wagoneers..and then toy rears and have used those since
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hope this has been at least a little useful