hey, I'm a chevy guy, but I will be the first to admit that the toyota is superiorly engineered   When I get a fullsize again, I'll get it based on the reliability, appearance, and specs of the vehcile, not based on some STUPID brand loyalty.  I'll drive a ford if its better than a chevy for my needs.  I'll drive a dodge, if it is better, but I'll allways drive toyota, simply because they (at least the older ones) are superiorly made.