Author Topic: Research - S/C (Read 11389 times)

Doc · « **on:** Oct 06, 2002, 07:30:18 AM »

I've heard that Camden and B&M used to make S/C's for the 22R Are there any companies that still do as a production? Camden wants 2K and would take them 3-4 weeks since they no-longer produce them day to day.... :~~:

Doc

mr4x42u · « **Reply #1 on:** Oct 07, 2002, 11:21:37 PM »

yea,they used to.but not many were sold.there are still some out there.I found a couple on e-bay,but the 2g sound alot better then what they were going for on e-bay.. :b_s: the last time I checked one was going for 3,100.. :thud:yea, right,,,I can't belive what some people will pay that kind of money for..

mr4x42u · « **Reply #2 on:** Nov 21, 2002, 05:07:50 AM »

Hey doc,,i found a guy that has a fresh rebuilt camden super charger for a 22r..has all kinds of goodies for it..6/8/12 psi pullys,,carb,,the hole 9 yards..He also has a l/c hi pro head to go with it..If ya want I canget ya his e-mail address...he wanted like 1800 for the charger and then more if ya want the head and all the pther goddies too..Let me know...I found it on e-bay a while ago..for got to tell ya...

BigMike · « **Reply #3 on:** Nov 21, 2002, 10:39:38 AM »

Why not fab your own, guys?

BigMike · « **Reply #4 on:** Nov 22, 2002, 03:37:00 AM »

Hey Doc,

I was going to help out some friends with their 22RE.
They wanted me to assist them in a custom SC setup.

Why dont we try that first? I've already got an imported JDM SC14 1400cc displacement Supercharger for our enjoyment.
Either I sell it to you and help you with it, or its going on Ebay in a couple of days (along with someother stuff I have been planning to get rid of).

BTW, Did this thread die? Let me know-
BigMike

mr4x42u · « **Reply #5 on:** Nov 22, 2002, 03:54:13 AM »

what does that s/c run..I out this on another thred so now its on two..oops

..Oh well now you'll be sure to get the word..so anyway i an wondering..i woud like to s/c my toyota 3tc powered sand rail..i have a 60 shot of nos but hate using it..i think a s/c would be sick

.last year I went and gave the 3tc fresh rings,rods and mains and the rings showed signs of abuse from the nos,but I was running 80 hp shot then.I backed it down to 50 after the refresh..If you would be interested in giving me some ideas price quotes or what ever I would sure be interested..Sorry doc,,did not mean to move in on your post..I am just wondering right now.. :up: :up:

BigMike · « **Reply #6 on:** Nov 22, 2002, 04:08:39 AM »

Hey whats up

Yeah I actually posted on the other thread *whoops :talking:

But I've got to get to my next class now.

While im there, do you have any picture of your rail and your engine? I want to see what a fixed up 3tc looks like

Regards,
BigMike

mr4x42u · « **Reply #7 on:** Nov 24, 2002, 08:57:43 PM »

I do have a few pics,,i will have to e-mail them to you.I am having trouble getting them to post here

.I will have to take a close up of the motor though.Maybe you can get them to post if I send them to ya?

BigMike · « **Reply #8 on:** Nov 25, 2002, 03:13:48 AM »

Hey that would be super - send them to my work address at crawler@cvip.net

-Mike

mr4x42u · « **Reply #9 on:** Nov 25, 2002, 03:38:46 AM »

:smack:too late went to your e-mail address..

BigMike · « **Reply #10 on:** Nov 25, 2002, 02:07:28 PM »

That's ok, they look awesome!

Check out mr4x42u's Sand Rail guys!

Good torque on the 3TC? What's the displacement? What's it like to build one? Easy to work on?

mr4x42u · « **Reply #11 on:** Nov 25, 2002, 10:41:43 PM »

:bowdown:Love the 3tc! :up: :up: Super easy to work on good torque hoever I am truning 31in paddle so the long climbs have to shift down to second.If I had gone down just one more size in ring and pinion thet most likly would have taken care of that..Good hp too..I like the 3tc a bit better then the 22r just to to higher rpms it pulls over the 22r.Then again that could just be the head work.Its pretty much stock.10 over pistons,portwork,stainless valves,portmatched intake,head,and exhaust.Exhaust is hommade with a super trap.The 50 shot nos is a big help with the bigger pinto motors but with the cc displacement difference she will still blow 4 out of 5 out of the water..This winter is a s/c upgrade or turbo.I found an outfit that makes fi intakes and adj cam gears,even roller rockers so more work yet to come.I will get a pic of the motor and get it on here.I have run it with some pretty fast rails.everything from pinto,subraru and v-6,buick and vortec.The look on there eyes while standing on the nos button! :ack:Not too bad from a 1800. :up:.they also made a 2tc wich is basicly a 1600..

dan_b · « **Reply #12 on:** Nov 26, 2002, 01:16:44 PM »

LC Engineering has S/C for 22R. Comes with a Wever carb and they clame up to 65hp increase. IT's supposed to be on there web site.

Dan

BigMike · « **Reply #13 on:** Nov 26, 2002, 06:12:03 PM »

The only bummer with LCE and TRD S/Cs is you cant run any physical intercooler and, overlooking the physical limitations of the engine itself, are thus limited to certain boost levels. Water Injection's perfect, but no ones going to carry a 200 gallon water resivor for that 80 mile mountain pass.

Regards,
BigMike

mr4x42u · « **Reply #14 on:** Nov 26, 2002, 10:14:42 PM »

yea,well the price is a bit out of hand also..Thats one reason I was thinking of turbo with intercooler.I cna run a fat turbo system for about 800 installed with wastgate and intercooler and that would be about 10punds of boot,,maybe even more but I would have to lower my compression a bit to run more..

BigMike · « **Reply #15 on:** Nov 27, 2002, 09:27:11 AM »

When your at the dunes, do you get alot of room to gain speed before jumping/climbing and or do you sometimes have to start/stop on the sides of hills or let up on the throttle during power?

If you answered yes to my second or third question, then you should go SC because the Boost is always on even if you are feathering the throttle, backed off the throttle, decelerating and then stabbing it, or have no space to rev it while launching in gear to about 3000-4000 RPM (for the same amount of useable boost on a Turbo as a SC would develop from 2000 standing still).

-Mike

mr4x42u · « **Reply #16 on:** Nov 28, 2002, 11:45:30 PM »

well its yes and no..depends on where I go..i see what your saying..They say there is a new wastgate out that keeps turbo lag down to a small %.I guess I will have to take some eng pics this weekend and get them to ya..

BigMike · « **Reply #17 on:** Nov 29, 2002, 03:23:33 AM »

What you would use is a small turbo with an external waste gate, one that mounts seperatly on your exhaust system. This is eaiser to tune and allows the Turbo to keep spooling.

Also, to decrease lag, dont use a Blow Off Valve. Instead use a Air BlowBy valve. Instead of blowing off the air into the atsmophere, it would recycle the wasted boost back into the intake stream and give the Turbo itself a surge of air while you shift which helps to keep it going. But you wont get the hear the nice "ppssshhhwww" noise at every throttle release.

But youre Turbo will be more responsive

Regards,
BigMike

mr4x42u · « **Reply #18 on:** Dec 02, 2002, 09:33:00 PM »

Hey mike I have those close up 3tc pics to send ya..i will send them to ya in a the next day or so... :up:

BigMike · « **Reply #19 on:** Dec 03, 2002, 10:40:57 AM »

Thanks, I want to check 'em out :up: :up:

Doc · « **Reply #20 on:** Dec 13, 2002, 09:59:52 AM »

Mike I'm gonna call ya this evening about that S/C......

Doc

Yo Mr4x42u ever take the rail down by BHC and Havasu??

Doc

mr4x42u · « **Reply #21 on:** Dec 15, 2002, 07:32:47 PM »

not this one...I have been there years ago with my quad when I lived in central cali..I would like to make a trip up that way again...That place is pretty nice....i herd ts changed alot...

Doc [OP]

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