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Marlin Crawler => New Announcements and Info => Topic started by: BigMike on Nov 21, 2006, 01:32:21 AM

Title: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: BigMike on Nov 21, 2006, 01:32:21 AM
UPDATE: This Bellhousing now is available for Online Ordering through its new Catalog Listing located here: 2RZ/3RZ-FE - to - R-series Transmission Conversion (https://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/transmission/3rzbell.htm)


We are happy to announce the release of our New 2RZ / 3RZ Bellhousing!!

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This bellhousing is the first bellhousing in the world to adapt a 'RZ' engine block to a R-series transmission.

When Toyota released the 2RZ-FE (2.4L) and 3RZ-FE (2.7L), they fitted it with a W59 5-speed transmission. The W59 transmission comes from the same W-series of transmissions that have been in use since 1985. Although it is a decent transmission, those who put the 'RZ' engine to the test quickly find the W59 lacking in durability and strength. Before now, the only other 5-speed transmission available for the 'RZ' engine is a G-series transmission, which shares the same front housing bolt pattern and input shaft length/spline count as the W-series transmissions.

Well not any more. Marlin Czajkowski has been working hard on designing a 'RZ' bellhousing that will allow a R-series 5-speed transmission, such as a R151F (1986-87 Turbo 22R-TE) or a R150F (1988-95 3.0 and 1996-04 3.4 L V6), to be bolted directly behind a 'RZ' engine. Now 2RZ-FE and 3RZ-FE owners can enjoy the amazing strength and reliability of a R-series transmission, the strongest Pickup/4Runner/T100/Tacoma 5-speed 4WD transmissions that Toyota has ever sold in the USA. In addition, 23-spline gear drive transfercases are now available with a 2RZ- and 3RZ-engine.

This is especially pertinent to 2RZ- and 3RZ-powered Desert Racers and Supercharged or Turbocharged 2RZ- and 3RZ-engines, and those who wish to run 23-spline t/case(s) in a RZ-powered Rock Crawler.

Pricing info coming soon.
Applications include: 2RZ or 3RZ Engine to R150F (3.0 or 3.4L) or R151F (2.4L Turbo) transmissions.
Availability: Bellhousings are IN STOCK and ready to ship!
Please call for more info.


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And as many of you did not know, we had the first Prototype out at this years 5th Annual Marlin Crawler Event at the Rubicon under Marlin's Crawler Truck in the form of a 5.15:1 first geared R151F Turbo Transmission into a 23-SPLINE Triple MC08R10 Marlin Crawler Transfercase system with two 4.70:1 Total-Spline Gear Kits:

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Marlin's world-famous 1980 3RZ-powered Crawler Truck is no longer 1,047:1 as it has been since 1997, but it is in fact 1,372:1 (5.15 x 2.28 x 4.70 x 4.70 x 5.29).

Rubicon tested and approved by Marlin Czajkowski of Marlin Crawler :turtle:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 6.72:1 on Nov 21, 2006, 02:53:27 AM
Absolutely ausgezeichnet as the Germans would say!

(excellent!)
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: Duffil on Nov 21, 2006, 07:17:31 AM
 :drooling: wow...that is the shiat! :turtle:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: Hottrod81 on Nov 21, 2006, 09:45:59 AM
That is the hizzy!
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Nov 21, 2006, 09:48:24 AM
:bowdown:  man  a 3rz  with 5.15  1st  R151  :woohoo:  talk about :burnout:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: Cheesemaker on Nov 21, 2006, 11:22:05 AM
(barry white voice here!!!)   "Thats Sexy!!" 

Marlin looks proud!!

Getting patent rights on this, right?
I can see Marlin as the 2/3RZ swap king!! :king:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: Gittinit on Nov 22, 2006, 10:43:06 PM
Leave it to marlin to make a good thing great! :respect:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: Doosty on Nov 22, 2006, 11:30:12 PM
fact 1,372:1 (5.15 x 2.28 x 4.70 x 4.70 x 5.29).

wow..... thats all i gata say...
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: FXR UPR on Nov 23, 2006, 09:40:25 AM
Awsome product.  Makes my upcoming drivetrain build much easier.  The wreckers around here dont like to pull the bellhousing off the w59 to use on the motor.  Very excited. :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: Snowrunner on Nov 23, 2006, 12:49:42 PM
Your the man Marlin!!!
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: toyotagod69 on Nov 23, 2006, 01:03:00 PM
Yes Marlin you are the Man!!!! That is great to hear!!!
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: cheap sunglasses on Nov 23, 2006, 01:35:08 PM
 :bowdown: :turtle:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: Bazzi on Nov 23, 2006, 03:36:10 PM
 :biggthumpup: you are the king  :king:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: Blk Widow on Nov 23, 2006, 11:29:54 PM
Marlin never understand what to stop being a king!!
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: vikingsven on Nov 24, 2006, 11:21:52 AM
This is AWESOME!! Right on Marlin!!

PLEASE BE SURE TO PROTECT YOUR PRODUCT AND PATENT THE S#!t out of it!!!



What's the $$ figure?
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: cheap sunglasses on Nov 24, 2006, 01:20:03 PM
PLEASE BE SURE TO PROTECT YOUR PRODUCT AND PATENT THE S#!t out of it!!!

I'm sure it's been taken care of, why do you think we had no idea this was coming until it was actually available?

Oh yeah a $$ would be appreciated here as well.
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: vikingsven on Nov 24, 2006, 01:23:14 PM
better to say it then not to and find out the worst :thumbs:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: kiyul4130 on Nov 24, 2006, 02:35:58 PM
dont think ill ever be using this, but it is still really cool. congrats!
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: Willy Mammoth on Nov 24, 2006, 03:04:07 PM
Wow, I saw that bellhousing in the truck when I was there working on it and thought something was up. I knew it didn't look stock.

Way to go Marlin. :thumbs: 

Yes hope you got a patent on this one.
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Nov 24, 2006, 07:25:28 PM
wow, when i win the lottery  i could have a 3RZ+R151  :bling:
who needs a tow rig  when you have that  setup  :burnout:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 6.72:1 on Nov 24, 2006, 08:01:05 PM
wow, when i win the lottery  i could have a 3RZ+R151  :bling:
who needs a tow rig  when you have that  setup  :burnout:


No kidding!
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: robrub00 on Nov 25, 2006, 11:53:07 AM
5.15:1 first geared R151F Turbo Transmission into a 23-SPLINE Triple MC08R10 Marlin Crawler Transfercase system with two 4.70:1 Total-Spline Gear Kits:

 was it 2 mco8r10's? rotated a total of 20 deg.??
this is ausome.  i may have found a 95 with a 2rz or 3rz( waiting for the guy to get back to me.) for 550 for the wreacked truck.  I just have to find a place to store it.  I already have a turbo tranny,  man  Cant wait to see how much.  the truck I might buy has a 2wd tranny maybe I could sell that to pay for this sweet bell housing.   marlin is god!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: Ewong on Nov 25, 2006, 01:12:42 PM
Well there goes the old dream and time for the new one...

Taco (has the 3RZ right) truck with Gen1 4Runner body...
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: TOYJOETA on Nov 25, 2006, 01:58:09 PM
And I thought I wasn't goin to be able to swap in a 3rz, should have known all I would have to do is wait a little while, now all i need is motor mounts and a wireing harness and I'll be set  :biggthumpup:

Late
Joe
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 4RnrRick on Nov 25, 2006, 02:25:23 PM
Nice....

So time for the stupid question of the day..... is a W or G series tranny the same length as a R151F series tranny. Meaning if I upgrade my W56 (which is current behind a 3rz) to a R151F do I have to relocate my t-case mounts?

Also what Flywheel, Clutch, Fork & Starter does it use?

Rick
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: TOYJOETA on Nov 26, 2006, 03:34:16 PM
Nice....

So time for the stupid question of the day..... is a W or G series tranny the same length as a R151F series tranny. Meaning if I upgrade my W56 (which is current behind a 3rz) to a R151F do I have to relocate my t-case mounts?

Also what Flywheel, Clutch, Fork & Starter does it use?

Rick

I think it'll work perfect for you rick, When I swapped in the R151 in place of my W56 everything bolted right back in place including my crossmember.  But just to be sure I can got out and measure.  WAIT, now that I think about it, I had to make a new tranny tunnel cover plate, because the shifter comes throught in alot different location, so you would have to modifly your pretty, new :love: tranny tunnel.

Late
Joe
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: jr9162 on Nov 26, 2006, 04:08:57 PM
I had to make a new tranny tunnel cover plate, because the shifter comes throught in alot different location, so you would have to modifly your pretty, new :love: tranny tunnel.

Late
Joe

Rick,
Some Turbo tranny's are forward shifting (bench seats) and some are top shifting (bucket seats). If you match your W56's configuration, you'll be pretty close...

BigMike,
Price of the new bellhousing?

Again, what slave cylinder, clutch fork, throwout bearing do we use? I presume the starter, flywheel, and clutch will remain 3RZ...
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Nov 26, 2006, 04:23:43 PM
:phone:   Marlin says  everything is  3RZ  EXCEPT  the  pivot ball  and fork which must be R150 or R151
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: BigMike on Nov 26, 2006, 10:50:50 PM
Hello,

I have been out of town on a run and have been away from the forum until now.

I can answer all of these questions except for the price because I have not been informed of it as I thought I would have been on Friday.

As for the other questions, I have requested Marlin to personally address every question and other related questions that have or have not been asked at this time.

With that said, Marlin will be on the forum tomorrow night and will address these questions personally :booya:


Hey 4RnrRick: You know that Marlin showed you his bellhousing at MCR5 when it was in the prototype stages, but we didn't think you put 2 & 2 together as you seemed to not realize that up to that time, it was impossible to mount a R-transmission behind a 'RZ' block unless you built a custom bellhousing or used some sort of strange and unusual adapter.


Please stand by for tomorrow night for Marlin. If you have any important questions about this new exciting product, please ask them before then.

Regards,
BigMike
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 4RnrRick on Nov 27, 2006, 09:17:57 AM
Marlin never told me (that I remember) what tranny was actually under there. But he did talk about some other odd ball gear set he found for his tranny to get a granny low first. He did I believe mention this new granny low gear set was out of a R-series tranny - but I just assumed he somehow adapted that gear set to his W-Series. "Now" I realize what we was talking about. I'm sure if he would have told me he was running a R-series tranny in the red truck - I would have asked how he did it! I never crawled under there and looked at it myself. Anyways its a cool product.

I'm very interested in this since I just lost a bearing in my W56A on this last Friday and I need to figure out what I'm going to do since the snow is falling here and I'm missing out on the fresh snow wheeling!

My specific questions...
How long is a W56 compared to a R151F (turbo tranny)
How long is a W56 Compared to a R150 (V6 Tranny) + gear drive T-case adapter
When is this going to be available to the public and how much!
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: Marlin on Nov 27, 2006, 09:45:35 PM
When I designed this new bellhousing, I took the opportunity to incorporate new features and improvements.

Because it can only be bolted to a "R" series transmission (large 9 bolt pattern), it will use the same heavy duty 12x1.25mm pivot ball and matching fork found on all "R" transmissions.

These parts are factory on all '86-'87 R151F 22R turbos, and '88-'95 3.0 V6 and '96-'04 3.4 V6's.

All other transmissions, including the W59, uses a smaller, lighter duty 10x1.25mm pivot ball and matching fork. These parts will not work with the new bellhousing.

The fork boot is the same and can be used over or installed as new.

The W59 bellhousing features two rubber air vents whereas my new design has the 3.4 V6 cast-in-place air vents.

There are two lower dust shields available for the 2RZ/3RZ bellhousing. '94-'98 T100 and '96-'04 Tacoma. Both use different bolt patterns and have pass thru bolt holes. The new bellhousing uses the more common Tacoma pattern and has four 10x1.25mm threads.

This lower dust shield kit including four attaching bolts, will be available at an additional cost if needed. Your orginal Tacoma style plate may also be reused.

The four original 12x1.25 x 60mm long W59 bellhousing to block, and the nine W59 or R bellhousing to transmission bolts can be reused.

The factory 2RZ/3RZ backing plate, starter, flywheel, pressure plate, and release bearing must also be reused.

The bellhousing is 6 7/8" long, same as the original W59 and weighs 10 lbs.

The cost of the bellhousing is $399.00. However, thru the end of this year, it will be featured at the introductory price of $349.00.

A complete list of options to fit your needs will be available including bolts, pivot, fork, fork boot, dust shield, and a bellhousing extension kit to adapt the '96 and newer 3.4V6 R150F with the longer input shaft to your 2RZ/3RZ engine.

Bellhousings are in stock now with the lower dust shield kits (which can be added later) due in two weeks.

Marlin
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: wslytoy on Nov 27, 2006, 10:26:55 PM
wow...... As usual, I'm amazed by the sheer genius of Marlin and his creations!
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: Marlin on Nov 27, 2006, 10:38:45 PM
I was only trying to answer questions.....

A transmission length chart along with shifter handle placements will be posted next.
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 4RnrRick on Nov 28, 2006, 08:43:39 AM
Marlin - That sounds great! I did however refine a couple of my questions.

What is the length comparision between the following options. I'm more concerned with driveshaft lengths since since I would be converting from an existing W series to R series tranny.

1) 2/3rz + W59 bell housing + W56 + Marlin Dual Ultimate gear drive T-case.

2) 2/3rz + Marlin RZ to R Bellhousing + R151F + Marlin Dual ultimate gear drive T-case.

3) 2/3rz + Marlin RZ to R Bellhousing + R150F + Marlin V6 adpater (30-4GT) + Marlin Dual ultimate gear drive T-case.

Thanks......

BTW - what you calling the new bell housing - I suggest R2Z or RZR Bellhousing. What ever you call it, its TITS....  :wink2:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: gotrocks on Nov 28, 2006, 09:16:40 AM
again Marlin you put a new another part on my Christmas wishlist

Way to go
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 4RnrRick on Nov 28, 2006, 12:55:17 PM
Marlin - I got one more question.....

Whats the strength comparisions between say the L vs G vs W vs R series trannies? If your unsure - how about a comparision between the diameter of the mainshafts or bearings sizes or inheirent flaws of each tranny?
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Nov 28, 2006, 06:28:41 PM
i remember Mike  posting  something about that  a while back,  but  the R151   is  significantly  heavier and stronger than the w56
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: jr9162 on Nov 28, 2006, 07:13:26 PM
Marlin - I got one more question.....

Whats the strength comparisions between say the L vs G vs W vs R series trannies? If your unsure - how about a comparision between the diameter of the mainshafts or bearings sizes or inheirent flaws of each tranny?

stock w56 is 50% or more stronger than G52/G54
stock R151 is 50% or more stronger than W56
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: BigMike on Nov 28, 2006, 07:58:41 PM
Marlin has provided the following information about lengths of the transmissions:

Marlin Crawler Transmission Dimension Chart
       by Marlin Czajkowski


Transmission
Length of
Bellhousing
 
Distance to
Shift Handle
 
Distance to
T-Case Handle
 

Total Distance
G52/G54 (84-87 22R Carb)6 3/8”19”23 ½”25 ½”
W56 A, B (85-89 22R EFI)6 3/8”21 ¼”--25 ½”
W56 C, D, E (89-95 22R EFI)6 3/8”19 1/8”24 ¼”25 ½”
R150 (88-95 3.0 V6)6 ¼”21 7/8”--24 7/8”
R151 (86-87 22R Turbo)6 3/8”19”23 ½”25 5/8”
W59 (96-04 22R, 3RZ Tacoma) 6 7/8”22 ¼”--25 ½”
R150 (96-04 3.4 V6)7 3/8”23”--26 1/8”
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: Ewong on Nov 29, 2006, 07:18:44 AM
Im I reading the chart correctly?

That shows OEM lenghts.

So Marlin sez the new bell hosuing is 6 7/8"

Reading the chart, Im interested in a W56 B to a new setup...

That implies that the shift handle will move "back" by about 4/8" or 1/2"...
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: Greg55_99 on Nov 29, 2006, 11:32:25 AM
Hey Marlin,
     What exactly is the "bellhousing extension kit" for the 96 and later R series trannies?  Is that a spacer to space it back?  Any pics?

Greg
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: cheap sunglasses on Nov 29, 2006, 07:42:57 PM
stock w56 is 50% or more stronger than G52/G54
stock R151 is 50% or more stronger than W56
what about my little L50?  :outtahere:
or maybe i dont wanna think about it
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Nov 29, 2006, 07:51:08 PM
what about my little L50?  :outtahere:
or maybe i dont wanna think about it
get one of Marlins  L52HD's  to bolt in where your L50 is  and  you'll be almost as strong as a w56 :driving:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: cheap sunglasses on Nov 29, 2006, 10:11:48 PM
get one of Marlins  L52HD's  to bolt in where your L50 is  and  you'll be almost as strong as a w56 :driving:

Yeah I've considered that option, but I think in the long run I would regret not upgrading to a w56 or even W56HD. This is all far down the line though, lots of mods have higher priority  :).

Oh sorry for the hijack, I'll stop now  :hammerhead:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: Willy Mammoth on Nov 30, 2006, 04:15:52 AM


 :offtopic:

Just a note for us people with short wheelbases.

Stock G52/G54 (84-87 22R Carb) 6 3/8” 19” 23 ½” 25 ½”  

G52/G54 with a L52 tailshaft and custom tailshaft housing would be 20 1/2"

The down side here is that the tailshaft housing has to be custom made along with extensive shift rail modifacations.

This modifacation has been in my project for the last two years without a problem.

Back to the topic at hand.  :bowdown:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Nov 30, 2006, 11:55:16 AM
not to mention  the  sd22 to G54 bellhousing  :eyebrow:



:tantrum:   DANGIT  :offtopic:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: runninout on Nov 30, 2006, 06:57:04 PM
BIG MIKE! 
When should we expect the 2RZ / 3RZ  engine conversion kits?  That would be bad ass!  :thumbs:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: Marlin on Dec 01, 2006, 07:08:58 AM
The 1 1/8" steel spacers are required if you are using a 2wd Supra turbo R154 or a 3.4 V6 2wd R150, or 4wd  R150F.
It is unfortunate that Toyota still uses the same R150 designation on the newer redesigned 3.4 trans that has an 1 1/8" longer input and matching longer release bearing.

This longer input gives more air space in the bellhousing resulting in greater cooling.

The 1 1/8" steel spacers are required if you plan on using the longer input transmission. The matching clutch release bearing must also be used.
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: sam2145871 on Dec 01, 2006, 07:30:24 AM
Any news on a conversion kit Marlin!?
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 4RnrRick on Dec 01, 2006, 10:31:19 AM
Quote from Marlin on Tranny strengths that I found....


I am know to say that a R trans is;
100% stronger than L52
  70%                       G54
  50%                       W56
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 4RnrRick on Dec 05, 2006, 12:15:19 PM
Unfortionately I could not find a Turbo tranny around my area for a decent price so I just decided to do a full rebuild on my W56. Just got off the phone with Marlin Inc and ordered a Full rebuild kit....
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: wrenchtech on Dec 16, 2006, 02:55:23 PM
What about a bellhousing to adapt a 7MGTE Supra motor to an R series tranny. I think you could sell as many of those as you will of this 3RZ adapter (which I hope you sell many of).

And what about an adapter to mount an RF1A transfercase on the back of the 6speed RA60 tranny from the 2005+ Tacomas? -- Matt
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: BigMike on Dec 22, 2006, 09:29:40 AM
Matt,

As you are aware I'm sure, the 7M-GTE came equipped with the 2WD R154 5-speed transmission, but unfortunately it has a longer input shaft than the 4WD versions.

At this time we have no plans on making a bellhousing for the old 'M' engines.

I have no comment regarding the RA60 adapter.

BigMike
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: Ewong on Jan 09, 2007, 09:24:27 AM
I have no comment regarding the RA60 adapter.


Hmmmmm... I'll be patient then....
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: TOYJOETA on Jan 29, 2007, 08:53:02 PM

Hmmmmm... I'll be patient then....

Interesting  :eyebrow:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: partyman66 on Mar 10, 2007, 11:45:31 PM
Marlin has provided the following information about lengths of the transmissions:

Marlin Crawler Transmission Dimension Chart
       by Marlin Czajkowski


Transmission
Length of
Bellhousing
 
Distance to
Shift Handle
 
Distance to
T-Case Handle
 

Total Distance
G52/G54 (84-87 22R Carb)6 3/8”19”23 ½”25 ½”
W56 A, B (85-89 22R EFI)6 3/8”21 Ό”--25 ½”
W56 C, D, E (89-95 22R EFI)6 3/8”19 1/8”24 Ό”25 ½”
R150 (88-95 3.0 V6)6 Ό”21 7/8”--24 7/8”
R151 (86-87 22R Turbo)6 3/8”19”23 ½”25 5/8”
W59 (96-04 22R, 3RZ Tacoma) 6 7/8”22 Ό”--25 ½”
R150 (96-04 3.4 V6)7 3/8”23”--26 1/8”

Hey guys,

I'm investigating options for transmissions in my 2001 Regular cab Tacoma 4x4 because I have what I believe to be a rapidly deteriorating bearing somewhere in my current W59 transmission.  I'm doing the research to see how feasible it is to swap in a R150F from a 96-04 3.4 V6 Truck into mine, since these W59 transmissions seem to have a lot of problems and appear to be the weakest critical link in the 3RZ drivetrain.  I see that you guys have this new Marlin bellhousing which would greatly facilitate this type of project.

Some posts I've read said that the output shaft from my current W59 transmission is splined differently than the R150F transmission, yet I also read in a different post that the same transfer case is used in both the 4-cyl and 6-cyl Tacomas as well as the Tundras.... and I'm not sure what to make of that as far as compatibility with the R150F transmission and my existing transfer case.

Based on th measurements that you guys were kind enough to post(assuming I'm reading and interpreting them right), it looks like the difference between the R150F transmission/transfer case when mated to your new Bellhousing in comparison to the OEM W59 setup is very minimal(1/8" to 1/4") in terms of shift lever location and total length of the whole tranny(I'm guessing this is a small enough difference to be absorbed by the compressible driveshafts).  Besides using your new RZ-Engine to R-Series Transmission bellhousing, what other modifications to a truck such as mine(if any) and additional parts would be necessary to make this work?  Are there any other additional considerations that might not be essential to making this work, but would make things work better(more aggressive clutch to facilitate heavier transmission and potential increased parasitic drivetrain loss when starting vehicle from a stop and also the slightly taller first and second gear of the R150, etc)?

My main concerns are to find out if the R150 is compatible with the current OEM chain-driven transfer case, and if there needs to be any changes made to the transmission mounting points and center support, as well as compatibility with the existing driveshafts, and the electric components such as the speed sensor and reverse sensor.

If you guys know and could post up some conclusive info on exactly what needs to be done to tie together a whole project like this, I think it would definitely help bolster consumer interest in your new bellhousing as well as rebuilt Marlin R150 transmissions for all those people like me who might be in the market for a tranmission replacement and see it as a worthwhile investment to spend a bit more money and seek an upgrade while we're at it.
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 4RnrRick on Mar 27, 2007, 07:10:02 AM
Quote from Marlin on Tranny strengths that I found....


I am know to say that a R trans is;
100% stronger than L52
  70%                       G54
  50%                       W56


Anybody know the strength improvements in Reverse gear between the different series of trannys??
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: Cheesemaker on Mar 27, 2007, 02:21:59 PM
I heard ya lost reverse at the dunes!  That sucks.
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: wngrog on Apr 05, 2007, 07:48:39 PM
Hey Guys,

I have one of these coming right now.  I bought the one for an R150 transmission, but no one asked when I bought it if it was a 3.0 R150 or a 3.4 R150.  From what I read, there is a difference.  Do the spacers come either way and you use them or not?

Also, the fork and the ball.....is the ball part of the old bellhousing.  I am getting an R150 from a wrecking year locally, do I need to ask them to include the bellhousing on the tranny so I can swip the ball and the fork to make it work?

I can reuse my old throwout bearing that was with my 3RZ/W56 setup, right?
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: RHG on Apr 06, 2007, 05:30:07 AM
So I have a w56 with my 22re in the 89 pickup. In order to swap over to a 3rz and use this bellhousing I need to get a r150? Damnit how bout a 3RZ to W series transmission! That would make my life much simpler since I have a Marlin W56HD in there right now that still has plenty of life to it.
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 4RnrRick on Apr 06, 2007, 08:23:44 AM
wngrog - the ball on the R150F is removable. Just unscrew it and bolt it to Marlins bellhousing. from my understanding you will need to reuse a R-series fork in marlins bellhousing. I just got marlins bellhousing and haven't mocked everythign up yet, but I got all the parts in the garage.

RHG - Just get a W59 Bellhousing. that will adapt a 2/3rz to any W or G series tranny.
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 4RnrRick on Apr 06, 2007, 08:25:24 AM
Wngrog - here is your answer to teh different R-series trannys. Bascially the longer input trannys require a spacer....

The 1 1/8" steel spacers are required if you are using a 2wd Supra turbo R154 or a 3.4 V6 2wd R150, or 4wd  R150F.
It is unfortunate that Toyota still uses the same R150 designation on the newer redesigned 3.4 trans that has an 1 1/8" longer input and matching longer release bearing.

This longer input gives more air space in the bellhousing resulting in greater cooling.

The 1 1/8" steel spacers are required if you plan on using the longer input transmission. The matching clutch release bearing must also be used.

Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 4RnrRick on Apr 06, 2007, 08:30:39 AM
Wngrog - I also had to look this up since I'm very close to bolting everything together, hopefully tonight!

....Complete Parts list for Marlin bellhousing as best as I can tell....

Marlin 2/3RZ to R-series tranny Bellhousing

No Spacer for short inputs: Turbo tranny R151 & V6 R150F
1 1/8" Spacer for long inputs: 2wd Supra turbo R154 or a 3.4 V6 2wd R150, or 4wd  R150F.

Heavy duty 12x1.25mm pivot ball found on all "R" transmissions.

Shift fork found on all "R" transmissions.

Fork Boot found on all "R", "W" or "G" series Toyota Trannys.

Rubber vent not required since its cast into belhousing

'96-'04 Tacoma lower dust shields and (4) bolts with 10x1.25mm threads.

The four original 12x1.25 x 60mm long W59 bellhousing to block.

The (9) W59 or R bellhousing to transmission bolts can be reused. <- (4) of my (4RnrRick) bolts were too long, so I had to find (4) shorter ones....

(2) dowel alignment pins for the bellhousing to tranny housing alignment - I reused the ones from the R-series tranny.

The factory 2RZ/3RZ backing plate, starter, flywheel, pressure plate, and clutch release bearing must also be reused. Although the longer input trannys may require a different clutch release bearing? ? ?

Clutch Slave Cylinder - Not sure but I think the W59 series for the Taco???
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: wngrog on Apr 06, 2007, 03:16:00 PM
Are the spacers in my kit?  They did not ask me my year for my R150 as I dont even know yet
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 4RnrRick on Apr 06, 2007, 03:37:29 PM
Are the spacers in my kit?  They did not ask me my year for my R150 as I dont even know yet

Not that I know of - I think you have to order the 1 1/8" spacer seperately... The person that took my order (I think Kyle) asked me what tranny I was planning on using.......
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: RHG on Apr 09, 2007, 02:57:40 AM
Thanks 4RnrRick, that clarifies/simplifies/ and makes things a lot cheaper for me.
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 854RUN on Apr 09, 2007, 01:12:22 PM
whats the price on one of these bad boys?
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: BigMike on Apr 09, 2007, 01:36:17 PM
whats the price on one of these bad boys?

It depends of what transmission you will use:

Using this Transmission ........... Price
1986-87 R151F$399
1988-95 R150F$399
1996-04 R150F$499

The price difference for the 1996-04 R150F transmissions is for a required bellhousing extension kit due to the longer input shaft of this transmission.

BigMike
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 854RUN on Apr 09, 2007, 01:47:02 PM
sweet $399 thanks Mike i am starting to price every thing out to do the swap on my 85 runner
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: BigMike on Apr 09, 2007, 03:57:34 PM
Right awn man. I am still running a W56 in mine (at the time there was no bellhousing for the R-trans). Bevin already blew up his G52 behind a 2003 3RZ. His 5th gear was totally shot when we tore it down. He said that he is making better gas mileage with the R151F, which makes sense only if his trans was totally shot. Now I am wondering how my W56 is holding up, and if I could be running better with the R. If I swap over, it won't happen until fall-

Remember its not only the strength advantages, but if you use the R151F instead of a R150F, then you get a new lower 1st gear (4.31:1 vs 3.95:1). Bevin's Ultimate with 5.29s went from 223:1 to 245:1.
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 854RUN on Apr 10, 2007, 06:36:56 AM
thanks for the info Mike. Ya i already have a r151 an duals in my runner now so i am really happy i can keep it in when i do the swap.

. Now I am wondering how my W56 is holding up, and if I could be running better with the R. If I swap over, it won't happen until fall-
and you have your 3rz super charged  :driving: :burnout:. I bet you would have blown up a G series trans a long time ago.
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 4RnrRick on Apr 10, 2007, 09:27:35 AM
Only reason why I swapped mine W56 to R150F is because I had complete reverse gear failure (all three reverse gears), Forward gears where doing fine and this was the same tranny that was behind my 200HP 7MGE. but in doing so I lost a bit crawl ratio (3.95:1 vs 3.83:1) so now with 5.29s I'm at 216:1, but its really not that big of a difference from 223:1. IMO its not worth spending money on lower first gears from one of the other R trannyes..

Anyways - everything bolted right in for me and with my combination W56 to R150F+V6 tcase adapter - I didn't even have to change my T-case mount because everything was exactly the same length! Which also means my drivelines are the same length. Thanks for the R&D on that one.

Below is some contructive critism for you guys...

I do think the hole for the shifter fork boot in the bellhousing could be a bit bigger, both of my boots wouldn't fit quite right. Also I couldn't reuse all 9 of the bolts that secure the bellhousing to the tranny, 4 of mine where slightly too long for the blind taped holes in the tranny housing - so I had to get some shorter ones. I also was surprised at the thickness of the bellhousing - I would have thought it would have been thicker - might be nice to add some ribs to the casting....

Other than those minor comments - Nice product and nice fitment!
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: wngrog on Apr 13, 2007, 06:35:51 PM
OK, turns out that I got the bellhousing for the 3.4 R150 and I have a 3.0 R150.

I take it all I have to do is knock the spacer off the adapter?

Do I need the dowels when I use just the bellhousing and not the spacer?

Finally, the bag of bolts in the kit....are they there becaouse of the spacer?
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 4RnrRick on Apr 16, 2007, 12:41:07 PM
I take it all I have to do is knock the spacer off the adapter?
Thats my understanding....

Quote
Do I need the dowels when I use just the bellhousing and not the spacer?
Yes, you need to use the dowel pins.


Quote
Finally, the bag of bolts in the kit....are they there becaouse of the spacer?
I would assume so.
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: wngrog on Apr 19, 2007, 06:52:12 PM
I got mine all bolted in today.  The hardest part was getting the dowel pins out that were there for the 3.4 spacer.  They were in there like a tick. 

All the fitment was perfect.

One thing though if anyone cares, the overall length from my old W56 with W59 bellhousing is 1/4" longer.

The reason I know this is my old crossmember was mounted to the lower tranny bolts and into the doubler. 

That said....can't wait for my 4 speed Atlas to show up!
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: wngrog on May 19, 2007, 10:23:01 AM
More problems with my setup, the Altas kit does not work with the 3.0 R150...just the 3.4 R150. 

I had to snatch it all out and get a 3.4 tranny.

Now, I have spent all morning f-ing with it, just to read (missed it the first 75 times I read this thread) that I need the longer release bearing.

DAMN.  This is killing me.

More info later....
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: wngrog on May 19, 2007, 02:37:48 PM
I really don't get it....the bellhousing I took off my 99 Tacoma R150 4x4 tranny was only 6 1/4" long.  Why would I need a spacer?

I tried it without the spacer and it would not work.

I am waiting on a clutch release bearing, so I was just messing around and tried it.  No go.

I measured the front output on my W56 and it was 5 1/4..the output on the R150 was the same.

Where is the extra 1 1/4" coming from?
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: BigMike on May 21, 2007, 10:20:10 AM
It is the length of the input shaft, not the length of the housings. A 1996+ R150F has a longer bellhousing than a 1988-95 R150F.

Check out these pictures I snapped the other day :thumbs:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: wngrog on May 21, 2007, 12:30:22 PM
My tranny came out of a 1999 and a 3.4 V6 and the bellhousing is 6 1/4" long from the stock application.

Here are the steps I took:

I first got a 3.0 R150....the bellhousing I got from you guys had the spacer because I was planning on getting a Tacoma 5 speed.  Well, I failed to realize that the tail sections were completely different, so when I got the transmission all bolted up (without the spacer on the bellhousing), all worked well, but my Advance Adapters Tacoma/Atlas adapter would not work.

SOOOOO, I pulled the tranny, and swapped it at the wrecking yard for a Tacoma 5 speed.  I saw the donor, it was a 4x4 3.4 Taco.

Brought it home, mated it up to the Atlas to test fit the clocking.  So far, so good.

Then, I stuck the spacer back on the bellhousing, stabbed the transmission and the clutch relese bearing was just flopping around on the shaft....it was not hitting the fingers on the pressure plate.

Come back, read the thread again, and bingo, I see that the later R150 needs to use the longer clutch release bearing.

I ordered the part and am not waiting for it to come in.

Here are my questions...

1) I measured the bellhousing I took off the tranny I have and it was only 6 1/4" long.

2) Also, the input on this transmission is the same exact length as the input shaft on my W56 that I was running before (and that I have in my shop)

Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 4RnrRick on May 21, 2007, 01:26:01 PM
Here are my questions...

1) I measured the bellhousing I took off the tranny I have and it was only 6 1/4" long.

2) Also, the input on this transmission is the same exact length as the input shaft on my W56 that I was running before (and that I have in my shop)

So whats your question?
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: wngrog on May 21, 2007, 02:03:57 PM
I am retarded...sorry.  My question reference the above, is where is this 7 1/2 in bellhousing I am supposed to have/need for this 3.4 r150?  Mine is 6 1/4 inches long.  The input shaft on the w56 and the R150 I have are the same length.  From reading all of this and the fact that with the w56 clutch release bearing wont engage leaves me confused.
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 4RnrRick on May 23, 2007, 12:26:14 PM
Isn't that what the spacers is for?

Sounds like you need to call MCI....
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: wngrog on May 23, 2007, 12:40:41 PM
Looks like I have a W59 :mad:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: wngrog on May 23, 2007, 05:45:44 PM
Hmm..no, it is not a W series, it is an R series, drain is to the side on the passenger side.

Gotta talk to Marlin again....
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: Bazzi on May 24, 2007, 05:24:13 AM
Check out these pictures I snapped the other day :thumbs:

isn΄t that transm with a short shifter spacer (base) ? ? ? ? ? ?
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: BigMike on May 24, 2007, 08:51:50 AM
isn΄t that transm with a short shifter spacer (base) ? ? ? ? ? ?

Affirmative :yesnod: Short Throw Kit for R-series transmissions. We have Short Throw Kits for L-, G-, W-, and R-series transmissions :thumbs:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: wngrog on May 27, 2007, 10:36:06 AM
With Marlin's help, I finally figured out what I have.....it is a 99 Tacoma 4x4 tranny....R150 with a short bellhousing like the old R150s out of the 3.0 trucks.

That was fun :screwy:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: jr9162 on Jun 02, 2007, 09:18:01 PM
It is the length of the input shaft, not the length of the housings. A 1996+ R150F has a longer bellhousing than a 1988-95 R150F.

Check out these pictures I snapped the other day :thumbs:

BigMike,
In pics #2 and #3, what slave cylinder and throw out (clutch release) bearing are being used? R151F?

In pic #3 is that the '96-'04 Tacoma lower dust shields and (4) bolts with 10x1.25mm?

Thanks!
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: BigMike on Jun 06, 2007, 09:54:37 AM
In pics #2 and #3, what slave cylinder and throw out (clutch release) bearing are being used? R151F?
Marlin designed the bellhousing to be as much of a factory install as possible.

Slave Cylinder: Factory 3RZ (W59)
Release Bearing: Factory 3RZ (W59)
Fork: Factory R-series Fork (R150F, R151F)

Quote
In pic #3 is that the '96-'04 Tacoma lower dust shields and (4) bolts with 10x1.25mm?
The Dust shield is a custom piece that we include with the Bellhousing kit, you are correct about the bolts.

Once I get the bellhousing online for ordering, a picture will show what all is included in the kit. The dust shield is a custom part that is made for the bellhousing, and is only available through Marlin Crawler Inc.

BigMike
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 4RnrRick on Jun 06, 2007, 02:58:13 PM
The dust shield is a custom part that is made for the bellhousing, and is only available through Marlin Crawler Inc.
BigMike

Kinda...... I just reused the dust shield that came with my 3rz from a W59 bellhousing (2000 4wd Tacoma).
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: BigMike on Jun 06, 2007, 03:31:19 PM
Kinda...... I just reused the dust shield that came with my 3rz from a W59 bellhousing (2000 4wd Tacoma).

What? How did it fit? I was under the impression that we are having these custom made for us, let me go check.....
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: wngrog on Jun 06, 2007, 04:00:06 PM
Nope, the stock dust shied bolts right up.
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: BigMike on Jun 06, 2007, 04:03:28 PM
Ok, I am correct in that the dust shield shown in the above pictures are indeed a Marlin Crawler Inc dust shield, however the Bellhousing is designed to be a direct bolt-in for a W59 customer, meaning that their factory clutch slave cylinder, release bearing, and dust shield may be used with our bellhousing.

Now the reason why we are making our own dust shield is because Toyota wants $12 or $13 for a factory part, and our local dealership just told us that they don't always stock them and we would be better off making our own.

Marlin also pointed out to me a difference between a Tacoma W59 bellhousing and a T100 W59 bellhousing, they have a slightly different dust cover bolt pattern and hence there exists two different Toyota dust covers for W59 bellhousings. Strange indeed
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: wngrog on Jun 06, 2007, 04:18:46 PM
Marlin and I also discovered during this process that there is a 3.4 tranny out there that does not need the 1 1\4 in spacer.

Mine was a bear to figure out, but it is in and works great.

I now have a 3RZ to R150 to Atlas 10:1 4-speed transfer case.

The setup is 25# lighter than my old dual case setup and around 6 in shorter.

I am stoked to have my front dig back!!
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: weirdtimes_7 on Jun 18, 2007, 01:52:21 PM
i love it, if i had a RZ engine, i would buy it...

military_stang
:respect:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: yoat herder on Jul 06, 2007, 02:22:31 PM
FYI TO ALL DOING THIS SWAP....  you can use a bellhouseing off of a 05 and up tacoma vvti  4 cyl (2TRFE eng) they use a R style trans stock and it bolts right up to a 3rz-2rz I got one used for $100 at a wrecking yard, the problem is this are not very common in wrecking yards yet.......
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: jr9162 on Jul 06, 2007, 04:44:33 PM
Go figure! Now, does it fit the R151F and R150F from a 3.0 liter v6 or just the R150F from a 3.4 liter v6?
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: yoat herder on Jul 07, 2007, 03:54:07 PM
I bolted mine to a tranny out of a 95 4runner, Im sure it will fit any R-trans
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: jr9162 on Jul 07, 2007, 05:18:29 PM
It's not the bolt face of the tranny at issue. How long is the input shaft on the 95 4Runner trans? 160 mm (6.5") or 190 mm (7.5"). The R150F behind the 3.0 liter v6 engine is 160 mm, same as the R151F behind the 22R-TE...
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: busmup808 on Aug 05, 2007, 04:49:11 PM
i wish Marlin wasn't so far from Honolulu!
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: bustedjunk on Sep 05, 2007, 07:55:03 PM
i think that would be great, Im almost done with my first swap a 2rz to r150 with one of those marlin bell housings. Not quite enough umph with a 2.4.  7mgte to r150 would be great. thanks alot.
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: yota18 on Sep 20, 2007, 10:00:08 AM
i want to know how much that would cost to put in my truck
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 83 Crawler on Mar 11, 2012, 10:27:17 PM
dont sell these anymore ???
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: BigMike on Mar 12, 2012, 07:32:30 AM
dont sell these anymore ???
Once the stock Toyota bellhousings found attached to R155F transmissions became readily available, we stopped selling our bellhousing. The R155F bellhousing fits R-series transmissions -- what our bellhousing fits -- and because Toyota designed the new(er) 2TR engine block with the same bolt pattern as a 3RZ, it also fits a 3RZ engine -- also what our bellhousing fits. Therefore, our bellhousing is no longer needed and we've since discontinued it.

Regards,
BigMike
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
Post by: 83 Crawler on Mar 12, 2012, 08:29:43 AM
O makes sence thanks mike! :thumbs:
Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
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Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
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Title: Re: New Product: 2RZ / 3RZ to R-series Transmission Bellhousing
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