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Technical Discussion => Project Research and Build-Ups => Topic started by: BigMike on Apr 18, 2016, 05:18:09 PM

Title: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 18, 2016, 05:18:09 PM
BigMike's 2016 V6 6MT AC TRD Sport Tacoma
The truck that took 8 dealerships 261 days to get!
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Welcome to the Build Thread to my 2016 3rd gen Tacoma!         
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Reply 13 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1120388#msg1120388): Bought my first Tacoma!
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Reply 16 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1120402#msg1120402): Mega Post about my
difficulty in getting this truck

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Reply 31 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1120436#msg1120436): Video:
Received my keys!
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Reply 45 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1120474#msg1120474): First Mod:
Installed Turtle Stickers!
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Reply 46 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1120476#msg1120476): Drove through
Marlin, Texas
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Reply 47 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1120477#msg1120477): Engaged 4LO
for the first time
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Reply 52 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1120516#msg1120516): First Impressions
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Reply 52 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1120516#msg1120516): Curiosities Part I

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Reply 69 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1120588#msg1120588): Drove to the Factory
in San Antonio, Texas.
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Reply 69 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1120588#msg1120588): Curiosities Part II

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Reply 93 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1120755#msg1120755): Curiosities Part III
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Reply 95 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1120757#msg1120757): First time parked
next to another Tacoma!
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Reply 103 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1120781#msg1120781): Thousand miles of
splattered bugs
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Reply 112 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1120830#msg1120830): First shopping
cart hit the truck
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Reply 114 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1120837#msg1120837): First time
to the Colorado River

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Reply 120 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1120868#msg1120868): First time
to Zion National Park
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Reply 131 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1121045#msg1121045): Curiosities Part IV
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Reply 134 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1121048#msg1121048): Made it home after
precisely a 2,500 mile journey
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Reply 143 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1122767#msg1122767): Marlin Crawler HQ!
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Reply 143 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1122767#msg1122767): Already rusting!!!

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Reply 150 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1122904#msg1122904): Tacoma met my
fully-built Hilux Rock Crawler
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Reply 160 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1122965#msg1122965): Weighed Tacoma
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Reply 170 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1123024#msg1123024): Installed Rock Sliders

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Reply 204 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1140815#msg1140815): Changed to SR Grill
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Reply 206 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1140817#msg1140817): Attended first event!
Bakersfield Land Cruiser Rally
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Reply 208 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1140819#msg1140819): Installed Toyota
Floor mats & sill protectors
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Reply 209 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1140820#msg1140820): Attended 2nd event!
TLCA's Cruise Moab, Moab, UT

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Reply 211 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1140822#msg1140822): Did my first "trail"
(was basically a fire-road)
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Reply 216 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1140827#msg1140827): Vendor Show #2
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Reply 229 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1141511#msg1141511): Did my first real trail:
Bald Mountain
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Reply 238 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1141520#msg1141520): Short Bald Mtn
Compilation Video

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Reply 254 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1141619#msg1141619): Why this thread went
dormant second half 2016
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Reply 261 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1141821#msg1141821): "Stage I" begins!
New 33" tires
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Reply 268 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1141878#msg1141878): Nitro Gear 4.88:1
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Reply 269 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1141879#msg1141879): UCA
and 3" leaf springs

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Reply 275 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1141887#msg1141887): Got rid of
the fake Hood Scoop
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Reply 276 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1141888#msg1141888): Towed the
Crawler Truck!!
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Reply 227 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1141889#msg1141889): Removed stock
Transfer Case
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Reply 296 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1142341#msg1142341): Installed MC
Front T/C Adapter
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Reply 289 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1142343#msg1142343): Prepared T/C
for our TacoBox!!

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Reply 300 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1142351#msg1142351): TacoBox Dual Case
Crawler Explained
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Reply 301 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1142352#msg1142352): History is made:
Dual Case Installed!!
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Reply 306 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1142371#msg1142371): Temporary
Shifter Installed
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Reply 313 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1142406#msg1142406): ARB Air Lockers
finally installed
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Reply 315 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1142408#msg1142408): Turtle
Hood Sticker
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Reply 316 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1142410#msg1142410): More stickers
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Reply 317 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1142411#msg1142411): Second Moab Trip!

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Reply 336 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1142736#msg1142736): Trail Run #3
Fins & Things, Moab, UT
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Reply 342 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1142742#msg1142742): My first low
oil pressure lamp!
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Reply 343 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1142752#msg1142752): Vendor Show #3
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Reply 344 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1142753#msg1142753): Trail Run #4
Flat Iron Mesa, Moab, UT
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Reply 353 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1142779#msg1142779): Bed comes off!

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Reply 363 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1142886#msg1142886): Figuring out
where to cut
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Reply 365 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1142903#msg1142903): Plastic tub cut
and glued back together
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Reply 370 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1142918#msg1142918): Bed sides cut
and welded up
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Reply 376 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1143125#msg1143125): Bed sides repainted

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Reply 400 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1143789#msg1143789): First Bob'd 3rd gen!
Six inches removed
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Reply 405 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1143929#msg1143929): New Crawl Ratio
Sticker
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Reply 411 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1144024#msg1144024): Trail Run #5:
Moonlight Madness / Bald Mtn
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Reply 414 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1144031#msg1144031): Video:
Walking my own Crawler

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Reply 433 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1145427#msg1145427): First oil-logged
exhaust
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Reply 440 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1145463#msg1145463):
Real Men Use Three Pedals
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Reply 442 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1145540#msg1145540): First night wheel'n
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Reply 443 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1145541#msg1145541): Video: Marlin Crawler
Alternative to "Flooring It"

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Reply 450 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1145554#msg1145554): Hauled half a ton
of stone
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Reply 451 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1145555#msg1145555): Stage II has begun!
New Beadlocks!
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Reply 453 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1145557#msg1145557): "40s"
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Reply 477 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1145866#msg1145866): Mounted
Air Compressor
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Reply 479 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1145868#msg1145868): Installed ARB
Air Locker Switches

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Reply 483 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1146027#msg1146027): Long Travel
Suspension v1
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Reply 489 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1146033#msg1146033): 40" Tires installed
but needs a lot of work...

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Reply 523 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1148940#msg1148940): Switched to 37"
BFG KRAWLERs
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Reply 526 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1148943#msg1148943): Temporary fender
& bumper trimming
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Reply 531 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1148954#msg1148954): First 3rd gen to
attempt the Rubicon Trail?

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Reply 551 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1150505#msg1150505): Tacoma conquors
the Rubicon!!

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Reply 551 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1150505#msg1150505): Video Crawling
down the Rubicon Slabs
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Reply 555 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1150674#msg1150674): 11th annual
FJ Summit
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Reply 557 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1150676#msg1150676): Testing products
at Bald Mountain
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Reply 561 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1150681#msg1150681): New, larger
Crawl Ratio sticker
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Reply 563 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1150683#msg1150683): BigMike's 1st Annual
TacoBox Run Introduced &
Discussed
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Reply 565 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1150685#msg1150685): 300M RCV Axles
finally installed!
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Reply 569 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1150689#msg1150689): Front Facing Rock
Crawling Camera installed

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Reply 570 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1150690#msg1150690): Tacoma's second
Rubicon trip begins!
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Reply 571 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1150753#msg1150753): Tacoma featured
in our Pomona Expo Booth
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Reply 574 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1150753#msg1150757): Size comparo
with Crawler Truck
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Reply 575 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1150758#msg1150758): Made it in
a Magazine!
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Reply 582 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1150818#msg1150818): Start on
Front Tube Bumper!
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Reply 598 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1150834#msg1150834): Back home on
40s & new front bumper!

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Reply 602 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1150850#msg1150850): Misc Daily Driver
pics on 40" tires
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Reply 604 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1150852#msg1150852): Height comparo
vs random Stock 3rd gen
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Reply 627 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153536#msg1153536): 40-inch tire
not large enough for spikes
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Reply 628 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153537#msg1153537): Intro discussion
for HD Steering Upgrade

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Reply 637 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153552#msg1153552): Installed A/V
adapter, disabled Door Chime
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Reply 638 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153553#msg1153553): Featured in our
KOH Booth
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Reply 641 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153556#msg1153556):
THE MarRack IS BORN!
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Reply 649 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153566#msg1153566): Started Body
Clearancing

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Reply 660 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153640#msg1153640): Finished Body
Clearancing
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Reply 663 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153643#msg1153643): Interior all finished!

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Reply 691 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153779#msg1153779): Daily Driving
the MarRack!
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Reply 695 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153783#msg1153783): Someone
graffitied the Tacoma!
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Reply 696 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153784#msg1153784): CV Boot Woes
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Reply 715 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153904#msg1153904): Someone
finally made us 5.29s!
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Reply 716 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153905#msg1153905): Our
Smallest is the Strongest!
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Reply 717 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153906#msg1153906): The MarRack
Steering Geometry Benefit

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Reply 720 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153909#msg1153909): Gusseted.
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Reply 721 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153910#msg1153910): MarRack Finished!
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Reply 734 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153948#msg1153948): My Dreams
came true with TRIPLES!

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Reply 740 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153954#msg1153954): Dual E-Brake
Cutting Brake Conversion
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Reply 743 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153957#msg1153957): Custom
cat-back Exhaust System
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Reply 746 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153960#msg1153960): TRIPLES and
Dual E-Brake Finished!
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Reply 748 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153962#msg1153962): First Video
idling @ 580:1 !!!

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Reply 750 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153964#msg1153964): First wheel'n
trip: Triple+MarRack+40s!
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Reply 751 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1153965#msg1153965): THE SLOWEST
TACOMA IN THE WORLD!

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Reply 778 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1154336#msg1154336): Triple
Case Demonstration
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Reply 779 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1154337#msg1154337): Dual Case
TacoBox FAQ

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Reply 782 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1154358#msg1154358): Simple
Dual T/Case Mount
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Reply 785 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1154436#msg1154436): HD IFS
Steering Stress Video

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Reply 788 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1154764#msg1154764): Random Update:
Went wheel'n in Utah
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Reply 789 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1154765#msg1154765): Random Update: Went wheel'n in Texas at the Toyota Jamboree
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Reply 794 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1155040#msg1155040): Demo Video
54:1 vs 99:1 vs 254:1

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Reply 812 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1155786#msg1155786): Demo Video
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Reply 814 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1156326#msg1156326): Now collecting
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Reply 823 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1158497#msg1158497): Colorado FJ Summit XII with Marlin, and
my 3rd trip through the 'Con on 40s!
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Reply 825 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1158500#msg1158500): Possible Trail
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Reply 826 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1158501#msg1158501): Few clips of
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Reply 830 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1158548#msg1158548): IG page
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IT'S FINNNAALLLLLYYYYY HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey
Post by: zippo on Apr 18, 2016, 05:31:58 PM
Welcome to Seattle?
Title: BigMike's Big Journey
Post by: busmup808 on Apr 18, 2016, 06:09:14 PM
ALOHA!


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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey
Post by: SqWADoosh on Apr 18, 2016, 07:11:12 PM
What brings you to our neck of the woods? Or is it just a stop over?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey
Post by: ExCabSwap on Apr 18, 2016, 07:38:38 PM
Going to visit ARB?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey
Post by: BigMike on Apr 18, 2016, 08:26:44 PM
Hello Seattle, goodbye Seattle!

This is a day LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG in the making!!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey
Post by: toyodaaddict on Apr 18, 2016, 08:43:15 PM
Does this mean Marlin Crawler isn't opening a shop in Seattle  :dunno: :rivers:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey
Post by: Prismo on Apr 18, 2016, 09:15:12 PM
Well, you did pick a nice day to visit.  :shades:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey
Post by: BigMike on Apr 18, 2016, 10:15:27 PM
Only 1,613 more miles to a new chapter!!!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey
Post by: zippo on Apr 18, 2016, 10:51:52 PM
You seem to be going around your ass to get where ever it is you are going.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey
Post by: helipilot77 on Apr 18, 2016, 11:20:51 PM
Yeah! What gives? you came all the way up here just to turn around and go the other way? :headscratch:
That has got to be the most round about way to get to Texas.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey
Post by: OVRAROK on Apr 19, 2016, 04:46:32 AM
I thought he was going to los Angeles :cheese:
Title: BigMike's Big Journey
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2016, 04:59:09 AM
Finally made it to Dallas... Local time is 7:00am.

The wait.....

The frustration....

The patience....

It's....

Almost......

OVER!!

I don't have much time at the moment, but this is the best breakfast I've had since January 2015:

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2016, 07:41:59 AM
With great relief and excitement I am pleased to fffffiiiiinnnnaaaalllllllllllllllyyyyyyyy announce the new addition to the Crawler family: BigMike's New 2016 TRD SPORT ACCESS CAB 4X4 V6 M/T LB TACOMA!!!
 
I'll reply back once all the dotted lines are signed!!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey
Post by: Cheesemaker on Apr 19, 2016, 08:56:50 AM
Nice!  :thumbs:   
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey
Post by: SqWADoosh on Apr 19, 2016, 09:58:46 AM
With great relief and excitement I am pleased to fffffiiiiinnnnaaaalllllllllllllllyyyyyyyy announce the new addition to the Crawler family: BigMike's New 2016 TRD SPORT ACCESS CAB 4X4 V6 M/T LB TACOMA!!!
 
I'll reply back once all the dotted lines are signed!!

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Had to go to Texas to get one?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2016, 10:48:36 AM
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh man ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh man!

This thread cannot go any further without my experience during the 261 DAYS IT TOOK TO GET THIS TRUCK. I hope you're ready for a novel because I've been slowly writing this over the past 8 months so here goes!

For many years I've wanted to build a Tacoma. I'm not the biggest fan of the 2nd gen. It's fender lines remind me too much of the Chevy Avalanche. Not the biggest fan of the 4.0-liter engine. I do like the older 3.4, but I'm a 4cyl guy. Building a 1st gen would be cool, Lord knows how much I love the 3RZ-FE (see my  Official 3RZ Knowledge and Database Thread (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=19275)), but as I already wheel my 1981 Hilux with a 3RZ there wouldn't be a tremendous difference, for example, if I got a 1995 4cyl Tacoma. I guess the Tacoma just hasn't excited me enough yet.

And then January 2015 happened. I saw pictures of that new pretty Blue 3rd gen from the North American International Auto Show and knew this would be the one! Fell in love with it right away.

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Spent that spring and summer working things out making preparations for the new Tacoma. In late summer the time had finally come to get this monumental ball rolling. And when I say monumental you need to understand what type of automobile person I am. My father bought his truck September 17, 1983, yes the very same famous Marlin Crawler "Crawler Truck". I believe it to be a fact that no other Toyota truck in history has been wheeled as much as this truck and he is still wheeling it today (check out it's Vintage Picture Gallery (https://www.marlincrawler.com/gallery/vintage-crawler-truck-pictures)). I learned how to drive stick-shift in this truck. I bought my first car when I was 18 yrs old, a 1987 MR2, which is still my daily driver (build thread (http://bigmike.marlincrawler.com/forum/index.php?topic=87)). I bought my 1981 Hilux 4th of July weekend 2004, slapped in a 3RZ-FE Tacoma heart and a 511:1 Triple Ultimate Marlin Crawler Transfer Case Setup and have been wheeling it ever since.

This is a combined history of 62 years between just three Toyotas.

Marlin's 1980 Longbed Hilux (Triple Ultimate Overkill MC T/Case System)
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My 1981 Shortbed Hilux (Triple Ultimate MC T/Case System)
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I still have my Hilux. It will run the harder trails while I get the Tacoma built.

In short, this Tacoma is HUGE news for anyone who knows the Crawler Family.

Welcome to the beginning of BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread

August-September, 2015

August 3, 2015: With the new Tacoma release date approaching, I contacted my high-school classmate who works at a local dealership and who in 2013 had sold my wife and I our new Yaris SE. He took very good care of us if you know what I mean, so this was my first choice. I found out he had moved to the dealer's Volkswagen department so he referred me to Ernie, their top Tacoma salesperson who owns a 2nd gen Tacoma himself...

...and at this point I really wish I could say, "and the rest was history", but this turned out to be the start of an incredibly frustrating experience with Toyota.

In the months that would follow, after 47 emails, countless phone calls, text messages, Facebook messages, and three dealership visits including one with Marlin when I broke the news to him (didn't even tell him where I was taking him), Ernie is still unable to get my new Tacoma.

September 14, 2015: The very first 2016 Tacoma arrives to our dealership. Marlin and I were crawling all over, around, and under taking pictures.
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I was expecting a delay: It's the #1 selling mid-size truck and a new model was just released. Ernie figured to give Toyota a few months to get production in gear. Maybe by October we'd have it, most certainly by the end of November.

But what I hadn't planned for was the insane model allocation Toyota has containing this clunky, inefficient, heavy, maintenance prone, heat generating, high pressure fluid system that can leave you stranded on the trail, expensive to repair, fuel mileage zapping and fun behind the wheel robbing AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION. GOOD LORD WHAT IS WITH ALL THE AUTOMATIC TACOMAS HOLY CRAP.

Welcome to this side of 1995. Wow what a wake-up call for me. I had no clue that 90% of new truck owners disliked driving. Where has the passion for gear jam'n gone? That moment when you smoothly downshift at the approach of a corner and slowly roll into the throttle with your heel perfecting matching your engine and clutch disc speeds. That moment when you want to accelerate by grabbing a gear and mashing the pedal for instant power instead of waiting for some computer to decide which gear and at what throttle position it thinks is right for you. Feeling an engine's power curve through your leg without the dullness of a torque converter, knowing when to shift by feel rather than guessing how much to lift for the ETC to make its eventual decision...

The window sticker of the dealer's first 2016 Tacoma
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What I ordered & Why

The Tacoma I requested is a White V6 Access Cab TRD Off-Road with a Manual Transmission.

Why an Access Cab?
The 1st gen Hilux was only offered in the States as a single cab and I've always wanted an XtraCab, so much so that I own a back-half of a 2nd gen Hilux XtraCab cab that is ready and waiting for my 1st gen XtraCab conversion... that will now never take place. :gap:

Body damage
I don't like Double Cabs for the same reason I'm not building a 4Runner: It has a longer cab line that I'll have to worry about through tight rock and tree squeezes.

The bed & wheelbase
I carry recovery equipment to rescue broken rigs and clear trails with our local forest service so I need a full size truck bed. If I get a Double Cab with a full size bed then the truck will simply be too long for technical Rock Crawling. Before companies like Marlin Crawler and All Pro Off Road (RIP) invented the Crossover Steering System, not just some but all of the technical "jeep" trails from Utah to California were off limits in organized events for us long wheelbased "jap-tin-can" Hilux owners. Even some trail leaders didn't like 4Runners and shortbed pickups, despite having by today's standards a short wheelbase of 103-inches, which today can out maneuver most Jeeps thanks to the Marlin Crawler T/Case (I've stretched my '81 to a whopping 106-inches). Back in the 80s and early 90s us "silly pickup owners" would constantly be making multi-point turns to get through trails that Jeeps would go right through without backing up. Worse yet, many Toyotas on the trail didn't have power steering.

The 2016 AC LB has a 127-inch wheelbase and the DC LB a whopping 141. That is 20% and 33% longer than my Hilux, respectively. I've got no choice. I can do with the 20% longer; It'll have a Marlin Crawler transfer case setup. But 33% longer is just too much.

Other thoughts on a Double Cab
- I'll have to either build twice as many tube doors, twice as many sets of quick disconnect door hinges, or unbolt 8 hinges total just to run trails doorless. (It'd probably look dumb with only the front two doors removed.)
- It'll be heavier which is no good for both Rock Crawling or highway fuel mileage (My Hilux has never been on a trailer since I've owned it and I drive to every trail including the 1,800 mile trip for Moab, UT).
- Twice as many doors for someone to break into the truck.

I'll definitely run the new Tacoma doorless from time to time. Entering the Little Sluice, TLCA's 26th annual Rubithon event, Rubicon Trail, June 21, 2014
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With all the hating on "long this" and "heavy that" I suppose I could have gotten another single cab... except for the fact that Toyota is no longer offering a single cab Tacoma!

Why White?
You're probably thinking why not Marlin Crawler Red? Well, that color is the iconic Crawler Truck color. If anyone should get a red Tacoma it should be Marlin. White allows a wide range of compatible artwork for marketing. It is also my favorite automobile color.

Why the V6?
When I get back home I'm expecting this to be one of the first questions from my close friends. Raised by the man himself, I am a less is more, keep it reliable, easier to work on, lower maintenance, lightweight, fuel efficient, less heat generated, more room for onboard air & welder, suspension parts last longer, better for Rock Crawling, four cylinder Marlin-type guy. I've actually never owned anything other than a 4cyl.

So why now? The Tacoma will certainly be heavier than my Hilux. I wouldn't be surprised if it's already heavier in stock form. Due to its size it might end up on 39s. Don't get too excited yet as I plan to keep it IFS for at least the first year. A 6cly makes more sense for the Tacoma's size & weight.

And then there is the new 6cyl. I love the new 6cyl. I know, you're probably in shock, but what I find so cool and what everyone seems to dislike is that the new 3.5-liter 2GR-FKS is higher revving with a higher RPM power band than the outgoing 4.0-liter. I'm assuming it's more compact & lightweight, certainly more efficient: The new 3.5L makes 35% more HP and 14% more TQ per liter than the 4.0. These are the fun characteristics that I love about 4cyls. I'm excited for this new V6.

Why TRD Off-Road?
Two words: Electric Locker. I run them in my Hilux (FJ80 high pinion front, Tacoma rear) and love them to death. This is the only package an e-locker is offered (rear). We rebuild Toyota Electric Lockers (https://www.marlincrawler.com/differential/complete/toyota-electric-equipped), sell E-Locker Motor Armor (https://www.marlincrawler.com/axle/front-axle-parts/front-axle-armor/electric-locker-motor-guard), and I have a lot of experience custom wiring them for older rigs.

Why the Manual Transmission?
Naturally there is no other choice for me.

And then the following happens...

The Big Issue

We discover that this truck is NOT POSSIBLE. Apparently Toyota only offers the 6cyl TRD Pro E-Locker-equipped Access Cab with an Automatic transmission!! Why oh why Toyota?! Why must you be so cruel?!

To make matters worse, this information wouldn't be discovered by our dealer until sometime in early October, the month I was hopeful I'd get the truck! According to our dealer they were still receiving info on what model and option combinations were going to be offered and come to find out Toyota will not offer a 6cyl manual TRD Off-Road Access Cab.

So what are my options now?
- 6cyl Access Cab SR w/manual trans: Not offered
- 6cyl Access Cab SR5 w/manual trans: Not offered
- 6cyl Access Cab Limited w/manual trans: Not offered

As it turns out the "TRD Sport" is the ONLY model that is available in this configuration. I am not a fan of the fake hood scoop, nor the chrome grill. I do like the color keyed fenders. I'll come up with lockers on my own. Okay I'll take it.

October, 2015: The Order Is Changed
With no other option we change the order to a White V6 Access Cab TRD Sport with Manual Transmission.

So we move on, and time goes on. I'd really like someday to get this truck. The problem is that Toyota simply doesn't want to make this configuration. Not even if we put in a custom build order because according to Ernie Toyota will only accept custom build orders once they get caught up with production/inventory of the new model. I can understand this. Apparently I am part of the minority of truck consumers in this country. I understand how supply and demand works.

October comes and goes.
- I miss the unveiling for the Pamona Off Road Expo (this would have been HUGE!)
- I miss the unveiling for the TLCA Southern Cruiser Crawl

This silver 2WD shows up to our dealer October 13, 2015. Another Double Cab. Another Automatic.
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November comes and goes.
- I miss the unveiling for TLCA Turf-n-Surf
- I miss the unveiling for CAL4WD Panamint Valley Days (** we thought we'd have it no later than this event **)

December comes and goes.
- I miss the unveiling for the CVC Toy Drive
- I miss the unveiling at four different 4WD Club Christmas parties
- I miss the unveiling for two different New Year Snow Runs

Ernie tells me their first TRD Off Road has shown up. I drive over after work to check it out. Another Double Cab. Another Automatic.
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January, 2016

It's a new year and now one full year since Toyota announced the new truck. I tell Ernie, listen, I appreciate all your time and all the hunting for this truck, but it's been on the market for four months and we're falling behind waiting around for it.

Anxiety just building and building as I'm missing wheeling events and I'm seeing build threads, FAQ threads, picture threads, trip report threads, cheap trick threads, "White Tacoma check-in" threads, "Let's see your Access Cab", "What did you do to your Tacoma today", "Who's playing the waiting game"... I have been lurking on multiple Tacoma forums like a madman. Countless times I wanted to chime in and reply but I don't.

And then I get aggressive:

January 4, 2016 I submit an order with Hanford Toyota
January 4, 2016 I submit an order with Selma Toyota
January 5, 2016 I submit an order with Merced Toyota
January 5, 2016 I submit an order with Irvine Toyota
January 8, 2016 I submit an order with Roseville Toyota
January 11, 2016 I submit an order with Manhattan Beach Toyota

Do you want to know what each and every dealership sales person gets back to me with? "Sorry we cannot get that model but we do have a White Double Cab Automatic which is even better & we can sell it to you today!"

I kid you not. Not a single dealer wanted my order. In the words of Sheriff Buford T. Justice, "What in the hell is the world coming to?" At least Ernie understood why I was after this specific model.

It's just crazy to me. It is listed on Toyota's website. It is listed in Toyota sales brochures. I see & hear Tacoma commercials one after the other (all featuring Double Cabs of course). I'm seeing more and more 3rd gens running around town. Arrrggg.

On one hand how fortunate I am that I can afford a new truck. My whole life I've wheeled Toyota's from the 80s so I do not take this for granted. But on the other hand it is available yet I cannot get it. Worst of all, this is one step for me but is one giant step for Marlin Crawler, who, despite being the inventor of the Tacoma Dual Case System in the summer of 2001 with many Dual Case'd Marlin Crawler Tacomas on the trail, is perceived as living in the past with the Hilux.

This perception of Marlin Crawler is going to change real quick once I get this truck.

The World's first Dual Case Tacoma is unveiled at the first Marlin Crawler Round Up, August 18, 2001
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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2016, 10:49:02 AM
Mid-January, 2016

It was finally Mrs. Crawler, my mother, who suggested I contact our friend and customer Chris King of Toyota Of Dallas to see what he can do. Brilliant idea. I give Chris a call and he knew exactly who I was and why I was after this specific build. "No problem let me transfer you to Mr. Hardy Tadlock, who is our inventory manager of 23-years, and who works closely with the manufacturing plant right here in Texas." Chris assured me if anyone can get this truck it will be Hardy.

After bringing Hardy up to speed he knew straight-up we would not find this truck anywhere in the USA. He did a search as other dealers had done before, but Hardy's response was a breath of fresh air: "If you place a custom order for this truck by next Wednesday, we can have it here in 4 to 5 months."

Five months since August and eight dealerships later, this was the first time anyone had offered this. No dancing around offering a different Tacoma. Done. Do it. Go. Get it ordered. Do your thing. Do whatever it is you have to do in order to get this truck in 4 to 5 months.

F-I-N-A-L-L-Y. This was the first glimpse of progress since October. I thought, wow, another half-year just to get one Tacoma. A possible combined timeline of 10 months since placing the first order.

January and most of February comes and goes.
- I miss the unveiling for the CVC Bald Mtn Snow Run
- I miss the unveiling for the King Of The Hammers (as with all these events we were there but the Tacoma was not. KOH was a huge missed opportunity!)

The Crawler Truck at our KOH Booth, Hammer Town USA. It would have been AMAZING to have had my new Tacoma parked next to the Crawler Truck for this event.
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The new Tacoma would be trail worthy by now had I gotten it in November.

February 25, 2016

So I'm working away in my office trying not to get distracted with Tacoma threads on different forums when Hardy calls me. "Mike, got some good news! We have a date and it's earlier than expected." I'm about to fall off my chair. "The delivery date to my VPC in Houston is April the 10th." I fall off my chair.

Unbelievably great news and such an enormous relief beginning to set. Hardy goes on to explain how this is only an estimation and it takes X number of days to get to Dallas and then X number of days to process yadda yadda yadda come get it April 20.

March 16, 2016

On March 16 Hardy informs me that the date has been moved up again to now March 31! From five months now down to just two! Forget the pinch, I need someone to punch me in the face to make sure this is happening! But a week later we find out that the factory has switched back to April 10. Clearly, Toyota is just mess'n with me now. ::)

March 18: I discover there IS a MANUAL Transmission 6cyl TRD OFF-ROAD E-Locker Tacoma... available in... CANADA. UNBELIEVABLE. TOYOTA. What the hell man? Of course I'm committed to this TRD Sport. Not interested in waiting another 6 months. Then what, destroy our relationship with Dallas, deal with customs, import taxes, compliance with CA emissions, don't even know if this is possible... Probably not an option. It is just incredibly annoying that I know the truck is built in the same factory who has explicitly told us it "cannot be built".

The Toyota Factory Tour

Meanwhile Chris lets me know that while I'm coming to Texas why don't I also tour the factory in San Antonio where my Tacoma is to be built? I said heck yes I must do this! Now the wait is almost starting to feel good. How cool is this?! But in an unfortunate turn of events, we find out that Factory Tours are scheduled for maintenance closures in April, resulting in tight scheduling, and the only available slots are early in the month before my arrival. Bummer. Had that worked out I would have flown Marlin with me.

So it didn't happen... Thank you Chris for the offer and your time with scheduling. It would have been awesome.

On November 25, 2012, I took Marlin to the Motomachi Plant in Toyota City, Japan. It would have been especially neat to see how the Texas plant compares with Toyota's own back in Japan. Here are a few pics from that trip. Marlin and me in the back of a JDM 70-series (a manual transmission solid front e-locker axle Turbocharged Toyota Diesel Double Cab pickup that makes an utter fool out of the Tacoma). The front of the Motomachi Plant & TO-YO-TA Katakana logos on many buildings. Toyota City, Japan
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Four March and April events roll by...
- I miss the unveiling for the CAL4WD Kingsburg Snow Poker Run
- I miss the unveiling for the Rubicon Trail Foundation's Black Tie And Boots
- I miss the unveiling for the CVC Calico Ghost Town Run
- I miss the unveiling for the Lock'N'Low Annual Truck Safety Inspection

Marlin and Christine were both highly honored at the Black Tie and Boots with the "Rock Award", the most prestigious Rubicon-related award possible, joining a group of only eight members!

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This September our annual Round Up event will eclipse the $100,000 mark in donations to the Rubicon Trail. If I can get my hands on this unobtainium Tacoma, then I will have it on display at the springs campground.

The last few weeks...

April 20 just cannot come any sooner and the weeks have just been a blur. In fact I'm typing this exact sentence on Thursday March 31st at 1:12 am in the morning and the cool thing is that I've been able to keep this on the low-down, hardly a soul knows, not even my own employees. No one in our industry nor any of our competitors know. It's gotta be one of the longest kept secrets I've ever had.

This past year we've had Tacomas in and out of our shop a dozen times and I've had both employees and customers say, "Hey it would be neat if you got a new Tacoma, Mike." Yes. Thank you. I am aware of this. Just kick me. Right in the ball sack. Please. If only they knew :lipsrsealed:

I hope those workers are taking extra special care over there in Texas because this truck is gonna see some awesome Rock Crawling for many years to come!

April 6: Dealer emails me paperwork to sign! Wooohoooo!

April 9: Dealer checks in with me, confirms everything is look'n good!

April 12: WE RECEIVE MY VIN! It's finally official!! This is really happening!

April 13: I sent the VIN to Ernie who pulls all the data from his system locally. The build and specs are 100% perfect! Truck's official birthday is April 8 and it left the Vehicle Processing Center yesterday the 12th. It is scheduled to arrive at the Dallas dealer no later than this Friday the 15th.

April 16: Dealer reports they have the truck and it's ready for pick-up!!! I said "Send pics or GTFO" and these came to my phone:

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April 19, 2016

So the day has FINALLY COME!

Hardy told me to come get the truck on the 20th. Well I've waited 8 months so screw that I'm coming a day early just in case it's ready! Gamble payed off. My original flight plan was a one-way direct-flight from California with a 5pm landing in Dallas. The dealer is open until 9pm so that is plenty of time to pick up the truck, fingers crossed, a day early...

...then my lovely wife who's traveling with me had a great idea to take a red-eye night flight: If we're already gambling on an early April 19 pick-up date, then why not save some $ on a midnight flight while also showing up the moment the dealer opens? Great idea babe, I love where your head is at.

So from Fresno CA to Seattle WA to Portland OR and to Dallas TX,
flying by night arriving 3 hrs before the dealer opens 261 days after ordering this truck,
I'M FINALLY DRIVING MY BRAND NEW 2016 ACCESS CAB MANUAL TRANSMISSION 6CYL TACOMA!!!!!!

Time to hit the open road and give a full trip-report back to California! Subscribe and stay tuned!

Regards,
BigMike
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: bknaus on Apr 19, 2016, 11:24:14 AM
Congrats Mike! Looking forward to this build thread  :thumbs: :clap:

I experienced the same thing when I bought my F150. The only reason I wanted to go to the smaller Tacoma is for the manual. Went to the dealership and they told me it was not available in the build configuration I wanted with a manual. Oh well, bought an F150 and love it (even though it's only available auto). A couple months later my buddy in the Bay Area got the exact Tacoma I wanted WITH A MANUAL. He said he had to special order it but his dealership did it no problem. I don't know if the sales guys just don't know it's an option to special order stuff, if they think it's not worth their time or if they're trained to just try to sell stuff on the lot but either way, Toyota lost at least one sale (mine) because of it. I doubt most people would be as patient and thorough when trying to buy theirs as you were. Oh well, the F150 tows the 85 Yota just fine so it all works out in the end.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Slolyfe on Apr 19, 2016, 12:10:32 PM
Congrats! Weird stuff with the ordering. My '08 was a V6 Access cab, manual, with locker, and offroad package. Loved that truck!
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: redneckcustoms13 on Apr 19, 2016, 01:08:00 PM
Congratulations on the purchase mike! This is going to change the game for marlin crawler for sure. Good luck on the trip home. I hope you guys have a good time and safe travels.  :turtle:
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: chim on Apr 19, 2016, 01:20:54 PM
wow! What an ordeal! I'm glad you finally got it and look forward to watching the build :)
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: chim on Apr 19, 2016, 01:22:01 PM
But wait... How is that the best breakfast you have had since January of 2015?!?
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: GNasty 82 on Apr 19, 2016, 01:22:58 PM
I''m sure you know this, but you are not alone in preference for manual transmission and your disparity with the US auto industry forcing automatics down our throats.  Congratulations on finding your unicorn!   
:bowdown: :clap: :respect:
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: H8PVMNT on Apr 19, 2016, 01:44:59 PM
Thanks for holding out for a manual trans!  Congrats on the new truck.  You having one of these will truly change the scene for Tacoma builds going forward.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Win243 on Apr 19, 2016, 03:05:25 PM
 :beer: :popcorn:  :turtle3:

I can't wait to see how this thing turns out!
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 84_yota_4wd on Apr 19, 2016, 03:55:37 PM
Looks Great Mike, Have a great trip
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: blackdiamond on Apr 19, 2016, 04:11:12 PM
But wait... How is that the best breakfast you have had since January of 2015?!?

Because it was the breakfast the day he got the truck...
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: John Doe on Apr 19, 2016, 06:02:50 PM
 :thumbs:

I look forward to seeing what projects you come up with!

I will admit I have done no research, but what is the differences between the 2nd gen and 3rd gen Tacoma's beside styling of the body and grill?
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: mdtrail-toy on Apr 19, 2016, 06:48:51 PM
Very cool and happy for you Mike. Your determination and patience finally paid off :thumbs: I know its a totally different platform but in 03' when I was selling Toyota's I bought an 01' TRD access cab v6 w/ yes a MANUAL trans. at that point IFS was my only option aswell. I ended up with a mix and match 9" all suspension and 37's with the majority of the time on the factory gears. But with that truck and now your new 16' it's amazing what you can do with that fancy little button on the left of the steering wheel. I think it said E-locker or something like that :rofl: But really great Truck and congrats
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2016, 07:13:16 PM
Thank you for all the excellent feedback and wishes for a safe trip back home :turtle: :hattip:

...what is the differences between the 2nd gen and 3rd gen Tacoma's beside styling of the body and grill?
I have never owned a 2nd gen (or 1st gen) Tacoma, but major changes would be drivetrain (new engine, transmissions [both auto & manual], transfer case, rear end, [not sure about the front end yet]), styling as you've mentioned, improved tailgate design (slowly lowers itself instead of slamming down and includes anti-theft provisions), and a full interior redesign. Also some things carried over from the FJ C which the 2nd gen did not have. Suspension as I've read online is mostly the same.

My '08 was a V6 Access cab, manual, with locker, and offroad package.
Starting with the 3rd gen this is no longer possible unless you get one from Canada.

But wait... How is that the best breakfast you have had since January of 2015?!?
January 2015 was when the truck was first shown to the public and when I first knew this would be my next Build Project! :yesnod:

I''m sure you know this, but you are not alone in preference for manual transmission and your disparity with the US auto industry forcing automatics down our throats.
Thanks for holding out for a manual trans!
...I bought an 01' TRD access cab v6 w/ yes a MANUAL trans.
...Went to the dealership and they told me it was not available in the build configuration I wanted with a manual....

I'm a gear jammer through and through!

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2016, 07:24:31 PM
Here come some pics I couldn't upload from the flight for obvious reasons ;) ;)

All of our planes had EXCELLENT in-flight reading material:

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I've had this exact brochure since August 13, 2015. :P No TSA agent was gonna confiscate this from my carry-on! :yupyup:

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We stayed at DFW Airport until 8:30am when Hardy himself came to pick us up. It goes without saying that the service I have received from Toyota of Dallas has been in the words of Judge Smails, top-notch, top-notch! Other than the wait and issues with Toyota themselves, my experience with Hardy has been ENTIRELY painless, efficient, and prompt. This applies to Chris King who always responded to my emails, texts, and calls, as well as their finance manger who was all business and I got in and got out without any delays, haggles, or issues.

When Hardy pulled up to the dealer he dropped my wife and I off RIGHT IN FRONT of my new baby girl!!

When my eyes first met those project beam headlights, I knew it was love at first sight. It had me at hello.

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Not a fan of the grill nor the bumper, which I do understand is required for pedestrian impact laws, as I've heard many another repeat before me, it sure looks a lot better in person. But, it will be coming off soon enough :yupyup:

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The moment it became real:


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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2016, 07:39:58 PM
First order of business was to insult the manual transmission for all the trouble...

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And then to graciously shift through all 7 of it's buttery smooth gears.... ohhhh yeah baby, that is PRECISELY how I like it!!

It's just perfect. The exact same shift-pattern as the Lotus Exige transaxle I installed into my S/C MR2.

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Only 3 miles on the clock ::o Hardy told me that Tacomas are one of those special vehicles that they reserve and try to keep off the street until they are driven away by each new owner with as few miles as possible.

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The second order of business was to take a look at the heart.

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Can't wait to get home and remove a lot of that plastic!

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The man who guaranteed the success of this entire ordeal, Mr. Chris King!

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Meeting with John and the team from TRDparts4u who operates from this dealership

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Finishing up the last bit of the paperwork with the man Hardy Tadlock himself. His 25-years experience as an Inventory Manager is no joke.

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About to drive it out of the dealer for the first time!

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Out in the wild!! WOW WHAT AN AMAZING TRUCK!!

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Much more to come!
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: redneckcustoms13 on Apr 19, 2016, 07:56:28 PM
Can't wait to see the bumper designs you come up with for these trucks. Better yet, can't wait to see it sas with dual cases!
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: John Doe on Apr 19, 2016, 08:11:02 PM
357 miles until empty!!! I am curious to see what kind of miliage you will get.

When the 2nd gnes 1st came out in 05 I hated them, the look and size. I will admit they have started to grow on me, namely the access cab having the rear doors.
Truck looks great Mike!
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: toyyota on Apr 19, 2016, 08:20:57 PM
Mike and Misato, All you have to do now for the next 500,000 miles is change the oil! Nice! All the best to you, Bob and Dana.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 88_Pathy on Apr 19, 2016, 09:40:14 PM
Looking good Mike.. Hope to see you on the trail soon. Get some Tundra parts going so I can join the fun.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BUDDERS on Apr 19, 2016, 10:40:40 PM
Sweet!  I'm happy for you Mike.  You two have a blast on your way back to Fresno.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Apr 19, 2016, 11:44:33 PM
:woohoo:   :driving:  :woohoo:

dude, I sent you a text when I had read the first paragraph I knew you were coming to Texas :)

Chris and the crew at TRDparts4U are awesome because Chris is  :respect:
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: JanMarie13 on Apr 20, 2016, 05:07:45 AM
Dude this is amazing... I am literally in tears!  LOL.  Happy tears of joy for you!  This is SO ( * Y * ) !!!!  Congrats!
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: mudmaster on Apr 20, 2016, 06:14:59 AM
Way more patience then I have. Way to stick with it!
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 20, 2016, 06:38:32 AM
dude, I sent you a text when I had read the first paragraph I knew you were coming to Texas :)
I was wondering who that was! I got it right as we went to sleep. I looked up the area code and did consider it being ya Glen :wave: Then I went to sleep :gap:

Way more patience then I have. Way to stick with it!
I don't like the way Toyota operates, but when I consider they are on top and should have the best marketing and product placement strategy around, I have to accept why they are how they are. As we all know Toyota shorts us all the time in this country (no solid front axle, no 70-series LC).
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 20, 2016, 06:42:27 AM
Good morning from Killeen, Texas. Our plan this morning was to go explore both Colorado Bend State Park and Enchanted Rock State Park, however it rained so much last night and we didn't bring any hiking gear for mud so we decided to sleep in to recover from the long two day stretch. Here come my remaining pics from yesterday:

Finally out on the open road!

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Starship Pegasus

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This truck loves to have its picture taken

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: SqWADoosh on Apr 20, 2016, 07:41:18 AM
 :thumbs: Glad you got what you wanted, finally. It is frustrating how difficult Toyota is making it on us Americans. Between this type of ordeal and the lack of 70 series it sure is disheartening.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 20, 2016, 07:46:28 AM
Our first stop was for the wife at Magnolia Market. We don't watch much TV but she does like Fixer Upper. I was pretty impressed with the place. We knew things here were overpriced but it was well laid out and they've got a nice thing going on here.

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Out back they had a garden and some food trucks/trailers

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I was mostly interested in the old ruins of the building left behind, such as an intricate high pressure valve and pipe assembly. Very cool

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 20, 2016, 07:50:34 AM
While the wife was doing some shopping I performed the first mod :turtle:

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Second mod is a magnetic CD-insert cellphone holder :thumbs:

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 20, 2016, 07:53:53 AM
Then we drove over to this awesome place :greengrin:

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Eat your heart out Dad! haha

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The sign I was waiting for in front of the Municipal City Court of Marlin, Texas

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 20, 2016, 07:58:57 AM
Nice and green out here.

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Plenty of wildflowers

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Of course I couldn't end the day without testing out the 4WD system :) Shifted in and out both high and low range, no problem

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Finally, the end to one fantastic day, parked outside our hotel room

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A room with a view

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: helipilot77 on Apr 20, 2016, 10:08:11 AM
So now that you have her what will be the unveiling event? Time to update your signature.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Apr 20, 2016, 03:02:27 PM
Nice and green out here.

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Plenty of wildflowers

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Of course I couldn't end the day without testing out the 4WD system :) Shifted in and out both high and low range, no problem

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Finally, the end to one fantastic day, parked outside our hotel room

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A room with a view

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when you get out past FtWorth there are some very old mission type ruins.  I always wanted to walk out to them but there was nowhere to park a 18wheeler

Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Apr 20, 2016, 03:09:42 PM
did it come with an elocker??    I see a Auto LSD indicator hopefully for the front.
I think I have some TRDparts4U stickers around here someplace.  I'll try and send them to the shop with that magazine I told you about a couple years ago that I never got mailed :doh:
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Cheesemaker on Apr 20, 2016, 07:51:05 PM
Very cool Mike!  I wish I could buy a brand new rig and take a trip like you are.  Quite Jealous!!


I had to look up the Atkinson motor design.  And the 3.5 has the D4S injections system.  Quite the read.  Especially, about the Atkinson design.  I am curious as to what MPG you get.  The stats says 19/24 w/auto.  I can easily get 20 on long trips in my 87 22RE, with 31's.  And loaded down.  This is my only gripe on engines today.  They are bigger, have more HP/TQ but lack in the MPG area.  Sister has a Tacoma 4 door 4x4, w/4.0 auto, and she is lucky to get around 16 at best. 


Can't wait to see what you do.  What is the first thing to go?  The 4wd/4lo dial on the dash??? 
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 21, 2016, 05:42:09 AM
Have been very busy over here, also trying to get caught up on sleep (my wife does not drive stick-shift unless the truck is Triple cased). I've been compiling this and had it mostly done last night but just couldn't stay up any later.

Here comes my first full report!

An Old School Hilux Rock Crawler owner's First Impressions of the new Tacoma

Drove 212 miles yesterday and here comes my first report!

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Because the above pic shows it, might as well start there.
Fuel Economy
The 19.1 MPG did include a lot of wasted city use including much time idling around trying to figure out our plan/schedule/directions as well as functions of the truck. Got crossed up a few times, had to backtrack, etc, while building confidence to use the truck's navigation instead of my cellphone. Also I "had to" open it up and use the skinny pedal a couple times, um, you know, for science :D Definitely making over 20 MPG on the freeway @ 75 MPH. For reference my 2.7-liter 3RZ-FE 4cyl powered 1981 Rock Crawler with full body armor and Triple Marlin Crawler cases makes 20 MPG with 37" Interco IROKs at this same highway speed. This is why I like 4cyls. This Tacoma won't be able to touch this.

There is something I find lacking (maybe I just haven't figured it out yet), but MPG is only displayed in averages. Our Yaris and other modern Toyota's I've driven all have instantaneous MPG readouts. There is a blue horizontal instantaneous bar graph, but it lacks a numerical reading. The Eco screen only lists averages.

Reverse Camera
Reverse camera is brilliant. Already have some leveraging ideas for its use for Crawling.

Cup Holders
Oh man! I've got a truck with cup holders!! Eight of them in fact :smokin:

BSM and RCTA
The Blind Spot Mirror is nice. Took a bit of initial trust adjustment but I've really warmed up to these. Still, I miss my lil blind-spot (convex) mirrors. I use these on all my vehicles so I stopped at an O'Reilly's and they only had some ugly thick black framed mirrors and none of that crap is going on this truck. So I ordered these frameless ones which will be waiting for me back at home: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EVMT6A8

The Rear Cross-Traffic Alert hasn't alerted me of anything yet. :D

4WD
As mentioned I had to try out 4WD first day off the lot. System works great. I like how solid the rotary switch is. First time ever using a switch to enable 4WD. Realllllly miss the transfer case shift lever(s). Nevertheless, depending on the required modifications I'll run into soon, I might actually keep this shift style for the rear t/case after all.

Navigation unit
I am really blown away by this unit. I've used a number of them in various cars and most I've seen are slow and laggy. This Entune Premium with App Suite is brilliant. I had it mostly configured before we made our first stop for lunch :D

The iPhone Entune app (1.5 star rating on iTunes) so far has been useless for me. The only app I've tried is Pandora and I get ads over Pandora which I don't get through my iPhone (thank you jailbrake!). So I prefer Bluetooth. I think the Gas Station app only works if the Entune app is launched on my phone. That is pretty lame.

Speaking of the App Suite, here is something that is particularly annoying to me. According to both the official Toyota website and brochure, for my trim and truck build, this should ONLY be available WITH AN AUTOMATIC DOUBLE CAB:

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I did not request for this; I was actually bummed I wouldn't be getting it. I do not have JBL speakers (I have not seen any JBL logos) but I do have the App-Suite. So Toyota willingly breaks their own rules when it comes to "Apps" but NOT when it comes to something IMPORTANT such as a REAR E-LOCKER...

The navigation's accuracy and ability is between that of Waze and Google Maps. Very impressed with it, especially once I figured out how to mute the lady's voice.

Noise
I've never driven another Tacoma but this truck is uber quiet. I think it is more quiet than Marlin's 2000 V8 Tundra, and if it wasn't for these noisy stock tires it might even be more quiet than our Yaris SE.

It does sound like there is noise coming from the back firewall or lower b-pillar areas. I noticed there is a rubber flap on both sides between the cab & bed to isolate vertical flow between the two. Nice touch Toyota. But I wonder if this higher velocity of air between the two is coming through as noise in the cab...

I can see a custom exhaust and intake giving a lot of life to this quiet cabin ;)

Hood scoop
Man... I just don't like it. It is only my second day so I must be cautious in coming to conclusions. But for me it comes down to the following:
1. It raises the hood line quite a bit which will certainly block my view of rocks on the trail, and
2. It is fake.
3. A lot of sun glare.
If this opinion remains when I get home I'll be looking to swap with a non-scoop hood.

Ignition key
I am very happy I have normal keys. From my past months lurking I've seen flip keys that look very brittle. I am very happy with the keys I got.

The main doors
The main doors are very tight on both sides. They will not fully close unless you make a conscience effort to close them. I don't believe them to be out of alignment. I believe they will require some breaking-in and this I like very much. No flimsy sheet metal noise here. Someone put some time into the fit and finish of the Access Cab doors.

The access doors
These are VERY nice. I can't believe how fantastic having these doors are. Access to the 'XtraCab' section of the truck is wonderful, and they open and close much better than the doors on my parent's 2000 Access Cab Tundra, which are more like full size doors with exterior handles.

The driver's seat
Not that I need to complain here but the seat is "okay". I have only experienced the driver's seat thus far. The seats in my MR2 and Yaris SE are both far better. But then again these Tacoma seats are lightyears better than the ones in my 1981 Hilux haha

The only adjustment is lumbar. I'd think that for a $30k truck they could have more adjustability such as tilt, height, and lateral controls. Perhaps the Limited has this...

One thing that is pretty nice is that the driver's seat can slide about a mile back. I am 6'0" and always have my seat back as far as it can go. Not with this Tacoma. These seat rails probably have enough movement for 6'5" drivers.

Factory alarm
I have a question: Where is the alarm? I tested it and it appears to only be a keyless entry system. No audible alarm, no hoking of the horn or flashing of the lights. There is a sticker on the driver's side window that shows soundwaves emitting from the vehicle, but so far I haven't figured out how to enable the "alarm". I have this same issue with our 2013 Yaris.

Two ways I tested it:
1. Remove key from ignition -> Open door then close door -> "arm" system -> Flip the door lock lever to the unlock position by hand -> have a friend open the door from the outside -> Nothing happens.
2. Roll window down halfway -> Remove key from ignition -> Exit vehicle -> Close door -> "arm" system -> Reach over the window and manually unlock door as above -> Open door from outside -> Nothing happens.

Unless the system is smart enough to know that the door was unlocked inside by the flip lever, it is not working. How do I enable the Tacoma alarm from silent mode to alarm mode? Thanks

Front shocks
The front shocks definitely need more dampening. The 5100-series Bilsteins we carry will be a welcomed improvement once I get back to our shop.

Brakes
Brakes feel great. Hopefully I never need to test the ABS. The real test will come once I get off-road.

Visibility
I am very happy this does not have the incredibly limited visibility as a FJ Cruiser. Pretty confident I'll be able to adjust to this truck for Rock Crawling. Over the shoulder visibility is good; The taller bedsides are not noticeable to me. A-pillars are wider than my non-airbag Hilux, but not stupid-wide like they are on my Yaris. The packaging of the curtain airbags has improved.

The transmission
You've waited for it so here it is: GREAT TRANSMISSION. All the marketing hype about dual synchros is true: Downshifts into 1st gear do not require the vehicle to be at a near stop. Toyota has done a fantastic design with 1st gear. Downshifts as if it was a 3.8:1. Surprisingly, unless the specs I've found online are wrong, it is lower than the 1st gear 4cyl transmission in my Hilux (3.98 vs 3.95) which is unexpected for an engine with more bottom end torque as the 6cyl. However this is great news once I get our Crawler installed.

Some RPM comparisons for you automatic lovers:
RPM at 70 MPH: 6th gear: 2,400, 5th gear: 2,900
RPM at 80 MPH: 6th gear: 2,700

Clutch
Clutch is like any other factory Toyota clutch. Light pedal, mushy engagement window.

Engine
Amazing engine. I am very impressed with it so far. It does have a slight hiccup in power delivery when you first hit the throttle, however I've never driven a drive-by-wire stick-shift before so I don't have anything to compare with. I've only opened it up a couple times and so far there seems to be two sharp power increases: One about 2,800 RPM and another about 3,900 RPM. Pulls very hard above 4k. Torque around 1,800 RPM is very good. I had no issues slowing for traffic and reaccelerating to speed without downshifting from 6th gear. Will be interesting how much this will change once I get all my gear loaded up in the bed.

Other notes:
I have not heard the D4S system "cleaning itself".
Idles low, about 700 RPM, also very good for Rock Crawling.
The engine shakes a lot during cranking and run-off. Love that 11.8:1 compression!

The curious things...
- The Recirculate button is of AN ACTUAL PICKUP TRUCK. You look at any recirculate button/switch for any Hilux and it is a recirculate drawing of a family car silhouette.
- If you don't fully activate the blinker, then it will blink a minimum 3 times. Very annoying. My habit of 20 yrs driving is to blink twice for lane changes by only slightly moving the lever. Even if I barely move the lever for one blink and release the Tacoma will blink twice more.
- Steering wheel controls: I like the layout and use them often, but Toyota used a non-standard audio control: Right & left buttons control volume while up & down buttons control skip.
- Brake and gas pedal are wider apart than my Hilux. Maybe this is to account for people wearing large work boots. I have to exaggerate my heel-toe movements. I'll be looking for pedal covers soon.
- I do not like the doors auto-locking once the truck is in motion. I was taught to never drive away with the doors unlocked, however while Crawling I leave them unlocked on purpose due to frequently stops. I'll be overriding this soon.
- I do not like how the air vent mode auto-reverts to main vents only upon each and every time the truck is started. I like having ventilation for my feet and 95% of the time I have the mode set for main vents + feet vents. So every time I get in the truck I have to readjust the vent mode. Dumb. Also unnecessary wear and tear.
- Windows have auto down AND up including for the passenger door control. Very nice.
- Visors are both telescopic AND both with lighted mirrors. Very nice.

And that's it for my initial impressions! Back on the road we go! :driving:

Regards,
BigMike
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: redneckcustoms13 on Apr 21, 2016, 08:44:33 AM
Does your steering column telescope as well as tilt? Blew my mind when I discovered this on my 06 double cab.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: chim on Apr 21, 2016, 11:24:12 AM
About that hood... There are plenty of people on Tacoma World who will give you cash plus their non-scoop hood for yours!
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: blackdiamond on Apr 21, 2016, 11:28:39 AM
Does it have heated side mirrors or an auto-dimming rearview mirror?  Both features that I love in the newer vehicles.

I had a comment as I was reading through your review, but by the end I had forgotten it... :dunno:
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Toyotadon on Apr 21, 2016, 01:26:23 PM
Great to see you got your truck, Mike!

I still wish I could have helped you build your "unicorn" out of 2 different trucks.  In the long run, you will probably realize having all the electronic nannies associated with the Off Road package would not have fit with your plans.  Even the e-locker is a different design than what you're used to.

BTW, if you want to bring it straight to Hanford, I'll get it smogged for you.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Waterman on Apr 21, 2016, 04:33:48 PM
Hi Mike...you say you like the Nav unit.  The one in my Pro works great once you get it to accept what you are trying to tell it.  Did the required 1/2 hour or so talking to the unit before it was ever used, still is a PITA to get it to accept directions.  If yours works, then hopefully I can get a software update for mine.  My new S6 phone took no training and gets it right every time....think Toyota could have done better.  As to your alarm, you most likely don't have one unless you got it as an option.  The stock set up gives you a sticker on the windows and a blinking LED and is actually an engine mobilization device that prevents starting the vehicle without the chipped key being there...at least that is what came on my  15 Pro.  Enjoy your trip, we just got back from a 2k Nev, Ariz, Utah trip...10 days 2k miles.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Mudder on Apr 21, 2016, 05:04:22 PM
With the autolocking doors, don't they unlock when you, the driver opens the door even if it's still moving? and don't all the doors unlock?
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: ExCabSwap on Apr 21, 2016, 06:27:26 PM
So what axle are you gonna put under it? '83, '85?  Linked or sprung? :thumbsup:
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: ExCabSwap on Apr 21, 2016, 06:35:22 PM
And... did you at least stop by Braum's?
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Apr 21, 2016, 06:40:09 PM
that three blink thing is from truckers fed regs.  They will bust your :moon: if you dont blink at least three times before changing lanes and after running a jerk off the hwy in GA that would NOT move despite me moving over, then slowing down then speeding up the jerk would do the same thing.  A GA state police came over CB19 and asked if i was listening.  I said yes. he said blink three times and then move over like I dont see him at all. I said I didnt want to hurt the guy and he moved left so I could see him in my left mirror.  I said OKAY, blinked three times then jerk went into the extremely wet ditch.   the cop stopped and told me he was going to give him a ticket for failure to yield.  A mile up the road I dropped the hammer so I could get OUT of state just in case.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Apr 21, 2016, 06:41:43 PM
So what axle are you gonna put under it? '83, '85?  Linked or sprung? :thumbsup:

I would think early Tundra
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: ExCabSwap on Apr 21, 2016, 06:57:51 PM
I would think early Tundra


I meant front axle ;)
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on Apr 21, 2016, 07:25:00 PM
I meant front axle ;)

He's going to run IFS.........



 :cheese:
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: redneckcustoms13 on Apr 21, 2016, 07:27:00 PM
For the 1st year or so according to the earlier post.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Toyotadon on Apr 21, 2016, 10:56:35 PM

Factory alarm
I have a question: Where is the alarm? I tested it and it appears to only be a keyless entry system. No audible alarm, no hoking of the horn or flashing of the lights. There is a sticker on the driver's side window that shows soundwaves emitting from the vehicle, but so far I haven't figured out how to enable the "alarm". I have this same issue with our 2013 Yaris.

Two ways I tested it:
1. Remove key from ignition -> Open door then close door -> "arm" system -> Flip the door lock lever to the unlock position by hand -> have a friend open the door from the outside -> Nothing happens.
2. Roll window down halfway -> Remove key from ignition -> Exit vehicle -> Close door -> "arm" system -> Reach over the window and manually unlock door as above -> Open door from outside -> Nothing happens.

Unless the system is smart enough to know that the door was unlocked inside by the flip lever, it is not working. How do I enable the Tacoma alarm from silent mode to alarm mode? Thanks


Did you wait at least 30 seconds after locking & closing the doors?  It should set off the alarm by unlocking from the inside.  There are some which come with only a partial system installed.  The dealer tech has to install a hood switch or jumper, as well as a Glass Breakage Sensor.  Then they can use the Techstream to turn on the Theft Deterrent system.

If you already happen to have a hood switch, it may just need to be turned on.  Here's another reason to make a visit to Hanford.  :D

Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 21, 2016, 11:16:09 PM
Thank you all for the comments :thumbs:

So what axle are you gonna put under it? '83, '85?  Linked or sprung? :thumbsup:
He's going to run IFS.........
For the 1st year or so according to the earlier post.
To be honest when I first drove the truck off the lot and around the city a bit I was thinking....wow....this thing is going to be a Rock Crawler? But now after a couple days driving it I can definitely see it, and what's more is that I think it should go SAS sooner than originally planned. Still need to think it over. It probably won't happen before the Round Up, but winter would be a nice time to make it happen.

With the autolocking doors, don't they unlock when you, the driver opens the door even if it's still moving? and don't all the doors unlock?
If I open the driver's door nothing happens. The passenger door remains in it's current position. I have not tried opening the doors while moving. But I will, you know, for science :sly:

Does your steering column telescope as well as tilt? Blew my mind when I discovered this on my 06 double cab.
HA! I haven't even thought about this or even if it has a tilt wheel!! :rofl2: Will check in the morning :yesnod:

About that hood... There are plenty of people on Tacoma World who will give you cash plus their non-scoop hood for yours!
This. I have seen exchanges done and am planning to do this should my opinion remain.

Does it have heated side mirrors or an auto-dimming rearview mirror?
Yes and yes! That post turned into one crazy long reply. No wonder I'm behind with updates :conf:

In the long run, you will probably realize having all the electronic nannies associated with the Off Road package would not have fit with your plans.
Interesting. I was thinking to swap in an entire 2016 Off Road rear end. Currently no one makes gears for the new rear differential. So I'll be waiting for that too...

And... did you at least stop by Braum's?
Had to look this up and am sad to say I did not :(

that three blink thing is from truckers fed regs.
Woah, very interesting, thank you very much for the info!

Did you wait at least 30 seconds after locking & closing the doors?  It should set off the alarm by unlocking from the inside.
Toyotadon, excellent tips! I did not know about the 30 second timer and will give this a shot. I'm sad to say I've only had the hood open twice thus far. Will check for a sensor tomorrow :thumbs:
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 21, 2016, 11:19:07 PM
The curious things...

...

- I do not like how the air vent mode auto-reverts to main vents only upon each and every time the truck is started.
It seems that by the third day the air vent mode no longer auto-reverts! Very happy to see this. I don't think I'm taking crazy pills; I clearly remember having to switch back to half main + half feet vents more than once.

Here come some pics from yesterday's drive: Keeling, TX to Boerne, TX.

Woke up to the truck's first bath.

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Beautiful

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Pic of both doors open. This is something I could never do with my '81. This stuff would be in the back getting wet. So happy to have an Access Cab! I'm planning to remove the rear seats as I don't intend to use them and I'll gain a tad more interior storage.

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Moar random pics

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Visited the largest Pecan in the world, only in Texas. The construction sort of ruined it

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Cut'n it close! Back home I'll intentionally run it out of gas to see how many miles after this it will go. (I'll have a 2.5 gal can of fuel prepared for the occasion.)

This truck has a very nice range: 362 miles on the first tank. And I'm not even sure if it was entirely full to begin with (picked it up from the dealer with it "full").

It took 18.87 gallons and averaged 19.3 MPG for the first tank.

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 21, 2016, 11:19:57 PM
As the truck is built in Texas and I had originally planned for the factory tour, there was no way I was gonna skip at least going to the factory after having come all this way!!

Welcome to Toyota Motor Manufacturing, Texas, Inc.

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This place is huge with multiple gates!

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The original plan was to go to the visitor center but missed it's closing time of 4pm by a mere 30 mins. It's okay, I plan to be back through Texas with the Tacoma in October for this year's Southern Cruiser Crawl.

Here we are outside the Visitor Center

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And behind me is the birthplace of this very truck! Can't wait to return for the factory tour in October!

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I was hoping to get a sweeeet picture of the Tacoma in front of the Alamo Mission but the road was closed off and there were a few police cars in the area so no chance. My wife grabbed this pic of it while we drove by slowly.

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And one last pic at our hotel before going in side in case I forget just how good looking the truck is :)

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That's it from yesterday!

Truck is running G-R-E-A-T. Power delivery is very smooth and entering freeways at 80 MPH before merging is not an issue. The six speed is a breeze to accelerate from green lights via 1st -> 3rd -> 6th as I do so often in my MR2.

Also, got a small list compiled from the second day of driving :D

The curious things... Part II

Ok, off to sleep now in New Mexico. Got more pics from today's progress that I'll try to post tomorrow!

Regards,
BigMike
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on Apr 21, 2016, 11:35:18 PM


It took 18.87 gallons and averaged 19.3 MPG for the first tank.



You still had over 2 gallons.......


 :yupyup:
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Apr 22, 2016, 12:20:23 AM
I meant front axle ;)

hmmm, why not FJ60 front??
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on Apr 22, 2016, 05:26:07 AM

To be honest when I first drove the truck off the lot and around the city a bit I was thinking....wow....this thing is going to be a Rock Crawler? But now after a couple days driving it I can definitely see it, and what's more is that I think it should go SAS sooner than originally planned. Still need to think it over. It probably won't happen before the Round Up, but winter would be a nice time to make it happen.


Where's the challenge in a SAS?


Keep IFS

Add IRS

Add Rear Steer


 :driving:
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Cheesemaker on Apr 22, 2016, 07:28:06 AM
If I were to have a Tacoma, I would definitely look into All-Pro's long travel setups.  Jon is always showing that its capable off road.  Plus he has the Expedition rear leafs.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Rockcrawlintoy on Apr 22, 2016, 07:57:48 AM
So what axle are you gonna put under it? '83, '85?  Linked or sprung? :thumbsup:

You know it will be a diamond.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Toyotadon on Apr 22, 2016, 12:47:47 PM

- The center/main interior dome light cannot be disabled, it only has two positions: 'On' or 'On when door(s) open'. Just thought this was weird.


On my buddy's double cab, the front switch turns off the rear light as well.
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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: bcoop2004 on Apr 22, 2016, 02:40:56 PM
With regards to the autolocks- I have a 2016 Tundra with the Entune and there is a screen called Vehicle Customization (or similar) that let me change how the autolocks work.  Mine are set to lock at 15mph.  Not sure if the Tacoma has the same option. 
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 25, 2016, 11:39:21 AM
If I were to have a Tacoma, I would definitely look into All-Pro's long travel setups.  Jon is always showing that its capable off road.  Plus he has the Expedition rear leafs.
Have already spoke to Jon about it. This is the route I'll be going initially.

On my buddy's double cab, the front switch turns off the rear light as well.
Thank you for the pic, I have this as well but this turns all the lights off, not just the front map lights. Where I'm coming from is that if no one is getting into the back of the cab then why waste the life and electricity to power the back bulb? Disabling it if desired seems like a normal feature of a dome light, but the only two positions of it's switch are 1) On when Door(s) open, and 2) On.


With regards to the autolocks- I have a 2016 Tundra with the Entune and there is a screen called Vehicle Customization (or similar) that let me change how the autolocks work.  Mine are set to lock at 15mph.  Not sure if the Tacoma has the same option. 
Ahhh! Thank you! I found this option and disabled it! :thumbs: :thumbs: Also found many options for timeout on interior lighting as well as auto headlight sensitivity setting (which I reduced as much as possible).
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 25, 2016, 11:42:38 AM
Had a couple more from San Antonio I forgot to post :P

First time in a parking garage

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Another night outside a hotel

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Toyotadon on Apr 25, 2016, 04:53:31 PM

Thank you for the pic, I have this as well but this turns all the lights off, not just the front map lights. Where I'm coming from is that if no one is getting into the back of the cab then why waste the life and electricity to power the back bulb? Disabling it if desired seems like a normal feature of a dome light, but the only two positions of it's switch is 1) On when Door(s) open, and 2) On.


Understand your point.  Just think how much Toyota saved by not putting that extra position on the switch.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 25, 2016, 04:54:26 PM
Thursday, April 21, 2016: Boerne, TX to Deming, NM

On Thursday we drove from Boerne, TX to Deming, NM. Marlin had warned me of how incredibly boring the drive is but somehow the single 8 hr stretch just to get out of Texas didn't seem that bad.

The GRN305 about to wake up for it's third day ever with me

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Stopped at The Magnolia Pancake Haus for breakfast (https://www.yelp.com/biz/magnolia-pancake-haus-san-antonio-3), food was excellent.

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Some A**hole bird defecated on the new truck!

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But fortunately we were soon driving through the heaviest downpour I've ever driven in. It was insane. Wipers were on high and we still couldn't see anything. Everyone had slowed down to about 25 MPH and some drivers had pulled off the interstate to wait it out. If there was ever a time I needed some Rain-X... This picture was before it got crazy:

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Went over to the Cibolo Nature Center which promised such beauty as this (http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/04/15/46/1104291/3/920x920.jpg) and this (http://www.scenicusa.net/images/DC09CiboloNatureCenterPD.jpg) but it was still raining pretty good when we got there so we did a fat muddy burnout and split. Sorry no video. Wife grabbed this pic on our way out:

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 25, 2016, 04:58:02 PM
Some shots along side Nimitz Lake

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Figured I would check out the 2GR-FKS again. Was impressed how little water had gotten in. True, any water contacting engine parts would have evaporated, but that rain was craaazzzyyy heavy. Thinking about it now, I should have checked the air box.

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Door VIN tag. Made In Texas this very same month! I plan to weigh the truck soon.

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 25, 2016, 05:50:57 PM
Stopped at USA's Easter Island and Stonehenge

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Guadalupe River

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 25, 2016, 05:53:18 PM
Texas travel centers are the closest I've seen to the amazing variety Japanese equivalent road-side "quickie marts" have. But American travel stops still have a looooooooooong ways to go.

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More misc pictures

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 25, 2016, 06:01:54 PM
Second tank of gas. No lock on the fuel door nor the fuel cap. I'll get a locking cap.

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Finally got to the El Paso area and we stopped at the Cattleman's Steakhouse at the famous Indian Cliff's Ranch, http://www.cattlemansranch.com. Food was most excellent. We walked the entire ranch while waiting to be seated and checked out a lot of animals. They were even breeding Rattlesnakes. Had like 10-20 rattlers all in one cage. Was really neat.

Found some coveted shade in Texas

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Checking out the awesome Llamas

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Inside they had a small Texas El Paso History Museum and a ton of Hollywood related memorabilia. This is the hallway leading to the bathrooms...

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Which included such brilliant Hollywood classics as Lone Wolf McQuade, filmed right on this ranch!

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Was really neat reading all the history of this place.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 25, 2016, 06:04:30 PM
Finally at our hotel in Deming, New Mexico. Day #3 in the books!

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Averaged 20.8 MPG doing 85 MPH (speed limit out here is 80 MPH). I thought that was pretty amazing for 85 MPH....however these 265/65R17 tires are tiny.

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Redbeard1 on Apr 25, 2016, 06:56:37 PM
Can't believe you came to Texas, picked up your truck, then drive right by my house on your way to Marlin, TX and didn't even let me buy y'all lunch... Lol good looking truck Mike you are gonna love it! I am loving my new 2016 just wish it had a manual transfer case like I mentioned to you on Tacomaworld.

On a side note are y'all going to be back in Texas to wheel/events any time soon?
Edit: try to see you and yours in October.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: ExCabSwap on Apr 25, 2016, 07:01:13 PM
Probably didn't even get to enjoy Braum's :(
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: helipilot77 on Apr 25, 2016, 07:39:01 PM
Second tank of gas. No lock on the fuel door nor the fuel cap. I'll get a locking cap.

Are you sure that it doesn't lock when the doors are locked? Many new cars have this feature.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Redbeard1 on Apr 25, 2016, 07:49:07 PM
Probably didn't even get to enjoy Braum's :(

I bet not. Best ice cream there is.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Apr 26, 2016, 12:34:22 AM
:popcorn:
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 26, 2016, 08:26:09 PM
And... did you at least stop by Braum's?
Sorry didn't reply to this, and.... had to look it up.... and.... dang, missed out :(

Edit: try to see you and yours in October.
Yes Sir redpim1! We will be at the Southern Cruiser Crawl in Arkansas this October and plan to swing back down to the San Antonio area during the tip.

Are you sure that it doesn't lock when the doors are locked? Many new cars have this feature.
The fuel door itself has no lock, only a simple plastic clip that holds the door closed.

On to Day #4!

Friday, April 22, 2016: Deming, NM to Flagstaff, AZ

When I was planning the trip this turned out to be the toughest decision: Should we enjoy all the amazing native American history and sites of New Mexico, which would be more for us and less for the Tacoma, or go the more populated route through Arizona where there are a bunch of things to park next to for cool pictures.... In the end I decided to go through Arizona. New Mexico offers Gila Cliff Dwellings National Monument, Petroglyph National Monument, Bandelier National Monument, Chaco Culture National Historical Park, and Aztec Ruins National Monument. I'd like to return to New Mexico very much someday!

Driving near the astronomy center of the world (southern Arizona) the speed limit was reduced and we were making some great gas mileage

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The wife really enjoying the new truck, especially her heated seat :D

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Stopped here but don't worry it was only for the picture ;) They didn't sucker these tourists with some misrepresented movie prop!

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Beautiful Mission San Xavier Del Bac, built in the late 1600s!

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on Apr 26, 2016, 08:46:37 PM
Did you stock up on all the illegal (for CA) fireworks?
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 26, 2016, 09:06:22 PM
The failed Tech Facility Domes! I had heard about these growing up so we had to check them out. Originally intended for circuit board manufacturing to rival Bay Area companies!

I was hoping to actually drive inside one but the entire area was fenced off and, um, lets just say it wasn't the best place to be with a shiny, fancy new truck without any sort of "personal insurance". (https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2FSmileys%2Fmarlin%2Fmadeinusa.gif&hash=c4bcb6419fdc99590efb44b04118d663)

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Entirely out in the middle of nowhere. Definitely got a weird vibe from the place.

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Next checked out the Mystery Castle...

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...and this was when the trip was finally catching up to us. Apparently I just planned too much and things were so spread out... It was taking forever to drive around to visit things. I was planning to see the Estrella Star Tower, Humpty Dumpty Statues, Goldfield Ghost Town, Hobo Joe Statue, and the Pioneer Living History Museum. Earlier in the day we had also planned to visit the City of Rocks State Park and cruise through the Cactus Forest Drive but knew we had to skip it. Should have planned minimum two extra days for all this.

But I didn't let this stop me from compiling...

The curious things... Part III
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 26, 2016, 09:46:46 PM
No trip to Phoenix would be complete without visiting the thingy Rock

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Conveniently located 1 mile from the largest Sundial in North America

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Next we needed to get moving as we still needed to throw mud over the streets of Arcosanti... and get up to Sedona to see the beautiful red-rock buttes... and walk around Montezuma Castle National Monument... check out the massive Meteor Crater east of Flagstaff along with the Geronimo Trading Post... and the Walnut Canyon National Monument... and the Sunset Crater Volcano area... and you can see how this was a huge mess. Definitely tried to take on faaaaar more than we could visit. This actually ruined most of the day because instead of relaxing and enjoying ourselves we (and when I say we I mean "I") were scrambling driving around place to place like idiots. Thank you Misato for putting up with me today! :yupyup:

So we crumpled up my plans and switched to "let's just enjoy the drive and time together in this awesome new truck". We have already discussed revisiting many of these areas and will set aside some real quality time to take it all in.

:thumbs:

Got some amazing dinner

Young beet salad

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White fish dish for me

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Seafood dish for her

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Gazed into each others eyes for a while while enjoying some ice tea and the nice Arizona weather, and slowly made our way up to Flagstaff.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 26, 2016, 10:22:24 PM
While leaving the restaurant parking lot I saw a fellow Tacoma owner getting out of his truck and I rolled down my window and said "Nice 2nd gen" (spoke clearly and boldly) and he just stared at me as I drove by even turning his head to gaze at us as we continued through the parking lot...

...And this was the moment I finally realized that Tacoma owners are real stuck-up jerks. Here I am all excited about finally becoming a Tacoma owner....I was not expecting this at all.

(Edit: Read this with a grain of salt. Going through my notes I recalled how negative that encounter felt and I knew I had to write about this. I'll soon realize how the greater commonalty of Tacomas on the road leads to less excitement when one is spotted by another.)

When I'm driving my Hilux and I see another Hilux I almost can't get my hand up for a Thumbs Up sign and the other driver is already doing the same. Smiles and waves all around. Same experience with my MR2, which is more understandable as MR2s are quite rare. Over the years I've pulled over a dozen plus times with complete strangers just to chat about each others MR2 and what mods we've performed. Marlin's truck is the golden standard for this of course as we continue to have Police Officers pull us over just to ask what cool mods have been done to the truck and "can I see a demonstration of how slow it is in 1st gear."

I've been waving and giving Thumbs Up to each and every Tacoma I've passed and NONE have returned the same. Especially the drop-bracket lifted ones with unnecessarily wide tires. It's like they are genuinely pissed off and want to fight me. The rest either look away after making eye contact or stare at me and do nothing. Do Tacoma owners even realize there are other Tacoma owners? It's like everyone saw the same TV commercial and went out to buy a Tacoma to "hit the dunes and play in the mud, bro." Bunch of zombies. I suppose if I owned a Honda Accord I'd get the same reaction. But this isn't a Honda Accord. This is a bad to the bone Toyota truck. Certainly plenty to be proud and happy about!

When we got to our hotel in Flagstaff -- along Route 66! -- I found my very first Tacoma to park next to! The owner of course looked at me and then proceeded to his room without saying a single word.

I was very excited to take some pictures of the new Tacoma parked next to its same kind for the first time. At least the guy didn't come back out and demand I erase all my pictures. ::) ::) ::)

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So cool to be parked next to another Tacoma! The best way for the truck to spend the night

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It was a lot of climbing to get up to Flagstaff, AZ. Was nice to see some actual trees since leaving Portland. :yupyup: Most of the drive was in the dark however. These projector headlights work amazingly well!

Good night from Flagstaff!
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 26, 2016, 10:32:29 PM
Did you stock up on all the illegal (for CA) fireworks?
Hahaha Funny you mention this because we saw Firework stands and entire buildings I think selling fireworks and I wanted to get some pictures parked in front of them but as you can imagine the wife was less excited with all the "useless pictures" I was taking :rofl2: so I didn't stop for them. :laugh:
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Toyotadon on Apr 26, 2016, 10:47:30 PM
The foot & defrost flow is equal according to the chart I was looking at.  Some of the slightly older models still had in between settings as well.

Good luck on disabling the compressor with defrost.  It's been done that way for a long time now, and your system is just computers talking to computers.  There's probably not a wire to cut.

They're trying to make your A/C smarter than you:

1. Neural Network Control
 Previously, in automatic air conditioning systems without neural network control, the airconditioner
amplifier assembly determined the required outlet air temperature and blower air volume in accordance
with the calculation formula that has been obtained based on information received from the sensors.
However, because the senses of a person are rather complex, a given temperature is sensed differently,
depending on the environment in which the person is situated. For example, a given amount of solar
radiation can feel comfortably warm in a cold climate, or extremely uncomfortable in a hot climate.
Therefore, as a technique for effecting a higher level of control, a neural network has been adopted in the
automatic air conditioning system. With this technique, the data that has been collected under varying
environmental conditions is stored in the airconditioner amplifier assembly. The airconditioner amplifier
assembly can then effect control to provide enhanced air conditioning comfort.
 The neural network control consists of neurons in the input layer, intermediate layer, and output layer. The
input layer neurons process the input data of the ambient temperature, the amount of sunlight, and the room
temperature based on the outputs of the switches and sensors, and output them to the intermediate layer
neurons. Based on this data, the intermediate layer neurons adjust the strength of the links among the
neurons. The sum of these is then calculated by the output layer neurons in the form of the required outlet
temperature, solar correction, target airflow volume, and outlet mode control volume. Accordingly, the
airconditioner amplifier assembly controls the servo motors and blower motor in accordance with the
control volumes that have been calculated by the neural network control.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 26, 2016, 11:08:04 PM
They're trying to make your A/C smarter than you

Previously, in automatic air conditioning systems without neural network control, the airconditioner
amplifier assembly determined the required outlet air temperature and blower air volume in accordance
with the calculation formula that has been obtained based on information received from the sensors.
However, because the senses of a person are rather complex, a given temperature is sensed differently,
depending on the environment in which the person is situated. For example, a given amount of solar
radiation can feel comfortably warm in a cold climate, or extremely uncomfortable in a hot climate.
Therefore, as a technique for effecting a higher level of control, a neural network has been adopted in the
automatic air conditioning system. With this technique, the data that has been collected under varying
environmental conditions is stored in the airconditioner amplifier assembly. The airconditioner amplifier
assembly can then effect control to provide enhanced air conditioning comfort.
 The neural network control consists of neurons in the input layer, intermediate layer, and output layer. The
input layer neurons process the input data of the ambient temperature, the amount of sunlight, and the room
temperature based on the outputs of the switches and sensors, and output them to the intermediate layer
neurons. Based on this data, the intermediate layer neurons adjust the strength of the links among the
neurons. The sum of these is then calculated by the output layer neurons in the form of the required outlet
temperature, solar correction, target airflow volume, and outlet mode control volume. Accordingly, the
airconditioner amplifier assembly controls the servo motors and blower motor in accordance with the
control volumes that have been calculated by the neural network control.
Thank you for this excellent excerpt! Very informative and interesting Don. It's going to feel all the better once I interrupt one single wire leading to the clutch magnet! We'll see how the Neural Network Controller feels after that ;) (will probably get a bunch of check engine lights flashing haha)
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on Apr 26, 2016, 11:33:45 PM
I don't know if the Tacoma does this; but in my ford focus if you have defrost on,   there's no recirculation,   just outside air....


Defrost on my 86 truck seems to be much more efficient.     

Defrost, recirc,  and push the AC button until all the inside window clear.....
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: ExCabSwap on Apr 27, 2016, 12:38:28 AM
Not sure if you're already past it, as I'm not extremely familiar with the area (only been through there once) but if the reservation is open, you can stop and see 4 corners I believe... Last trip through there, the wife and I were too late :(
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: redneckcustoms13 on Apr 27, 2016, 10:13:45 AM
 The douchbag tacoma owner deal in my opinion is that 90% of taco owners just have them because they wanted a truck and heard of the reliability of a toyota. I have one with as you reference to "drop bracket lifted with unnecessarily wide tires" I'm not as cool as the kids on your coast though. Mine has no stickers or useless light bars. It simply takes my kids to school, ball practice, or wherever we all 4 need to go and obviously can't all fit into a 1st gen pickup with 2 seats lol. I very rarely have anyone with another taco say anything to me other than "where did you get those wheels". When you have something thats less than 30 years old it's not really anything different than everyone elses unless you have that awesome 3rd pedal that no one knows you have. People just don't seem to care about it Iike say a 67 ss 396 Chevelle owner would when he sees another like his. Just my observation on the subject lol.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 27, 2016, 12:13:09 PM
I don't know if the Tacoma does this; but in my ford focus if you have defrost on,   there's no recirculation,   just outside air....
Ahh, forgot about this. The Tacoma actually DOES allow the user to deactivate recirculate mode when the air duct mode is selected for "Defrost + Feet". This is not possible with our Yaris: The moment you switch to defrost it automatically enables recirculate mode. So I am happy the Tacoma has this freedom.

Not sure if you're already past it, as I'm not extremely familiar with the area (only been through there once) but if the reservation is open, you can stop and see 4 corners I believe... Last trip through there, the wife and I were too late :(
I went to the Four Corners Monument in the late 1990s with my family. That was pretty cool. For this trip we were not over in that area so we missed it. Had we stayed in New Mexico then this would have worked because the Aztec Ruins National Monument is just east of Four Corners.

The douchbag tacoma owner deal in my opinion is that 90% of taco owners just have them because they wanted a truck and heard of the reliability of a toyota. I have one with as you reference to "drop bracket lifted with unnecessarily wide tires" I'm not as cool as the kids on your coast though. Mine has no stickers or useless light bars. It simply takes my kids to school, ball practice, or wherever we all 4 need to go and obviously can't all fit into a 1st gen pickup with 2 seats lol. I very rarely have anyone with another taco say anything to me other than "where did you get those wheels". When you have something thats less than 30 years old it's not really anything different than everyone elses unless you have that awesome 3rd pedal that no one knows you have. People just don't seem to care about it Iike say a 67 ss 396 Chevelle owner would when he sees another like his. Just my observation on the subject lol.
Thank you for the comment. At least you've got a taste of both worlds, so you know what it's like on both ends of the spectrum :thumbs:


Regards,
BigMike
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 27, 2016, 02:13:42 PM
I don't know if its mating season for Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona bugs but it has been quite the journey for the truck

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When the bigger ones strike the mirror they also splatter down the length of the side windows. My wife made the mistake of lowering hers resulting in nice streaking bug guts.

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Curiously large gaps on both sides of the windshield that collects even the common housefly. They get embedded pretty deep. Don't think ordinary car washes will get them out.

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To the right of the mirror you can see there is a hump in the plastic trim. There are three more (smaller) humps under the mirror as well. According to Toyota literature, these are designed to reduce noise around the mirror. :)
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 27, 2016, 02:13:57 PM
The body line is also curiously high above the windshield. Is it like this on 2nd gens? If you run your finger up the glass there is a definite bump at the body. If any of my college studies in fluid dynamics were worth the effort, this will encourage flow separation at higher speeds leading to increased drag. Maybe this is done to disrupt airflow over the cab early to better manage flow coming up the back window? Deep thoughts by Jack Handey...

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Bug are so out of control they are splattering on the rear trailing edge of the XtraCab window frame.

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Front and rear fenders also getting some kills in

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With a grill as massive as the 3rd gen, this is to be expected...

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This rubber divider is doing it's job preventing bugs from tainting the beautiful 2GR-FKS.

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More under hood carnage

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 27, 2016, 02:14:07 PM
The Tacoma even managed to take out a bird!! Poor lil guy!

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I watched the guy try to cross paths... :suprised: See what happens when you make the most gaudy grill possible Toyota?

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 27, 2016, 08:29:12 PM
Saw some interesting Oversized Loads...

Anyone know what this thing is?

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Found the tires I'd like to get for the Tacoma :D

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: helipilot77 on Apr 27, 2016, 08:33:04 PM
Saw some interesting Oversized Loads...

Anyone know what this thing is?

I don't know but I'm going to guess it is a petroleum refinement column
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: ExCabSwap on Apr 28, 2016, 12:19:45 AM
Uncle Jack's new still
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Apr 28, 2016, 12:44:05 AM
CUT THAT THING UP! its too clean Mike! very nice truck.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Apr 28, 2016, 12:47:26 AM
Sorry didn't reply to this, and.... had to look it up.... and.... dang, missed out :(
Yes Sir redpim1! We will be at the Southern Cruiser Crawl in Arkansas this October and plan to swing back down to the San Antonio area during the tip.

On to Day #4!

Friday, April 22, 2016: Deming, NM to Flagstaff, AZ

When I was planning the trip this turned out to be the toughest decision: Should we enjoy all the amazing native American history and sites of New Mexico, which would be more for us and less for the Tacoma, or go the more populated route through Arizona where there are a bunch of things to park next to for cool pictures.... In the end I decided to go through Arizona. New Mexico offers Gila Cliff Dwellings National Monument, Petroglyph National Monument, Bandelier National Monument, Chaco Culture National Historical Park, and Aztec Ruins National Monument. I'd like to return to New Mexico very much someday!

Driving near the astronomy center of the world (southern Arizona) the speed limit was reduced and we were making some great gas mileage




Stopped here but don't worry it was only for the picture ;) They didn't sucker these tourists with some misrepresented movie prop!

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I have pictures of the THING,  they thought it was a Aztec princess. supposedly found in a cave in the foothills.

according to other truckers back in the 90's  they said not to go to those dome things even in the daytime. said people tend to disappear there.  I got a bad feeling when I was there as well.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Cheesemaker on Apr 28, 2016, 07:40:16 AM
The body line is also curiously high above the windshield. Is it like this on 2nd gens? If you run your finger up the glass there is a definite bump at the body. If any of my college studies in fluid dynamics were worth the effort, this will encourage flow separation at higher speeds leading to increased drag. Maybe this is done to disrupt airflow over the cab early to better manage flow coming up the back window? Deep thoughts by Jack Handey...

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Yes they do.  And over time the paint chips.  Exposing the metal causing it to rust.  I am loosing the battle with rust around my windshield on my Beloved 87.  I am gonna have to do something.  The metal trim around the windshield is also a culprit of rust.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 28, 2016, 06:39:23 PM
I have pictures of the THING,  they thought it was a Aztec princess. supposedly found in a cave in the foothills.
According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_%28roadside_attraction%29), it was made by a creator of exhibits for sideshows. :yupyup:

according to other truckers back in the 90's  they said not to go to those dome things even in the daytime. said people tend to disappear there.  I got a bad feeling when I was there as well.
Verrrrrry interesting. I am glad the new truck did not disappear. The tall sage brush or bushes limiting viability was not helping either. :nerv:

The body line is also curiously high above the windshield. Is it like this on 2nd gens?
Yes they do ... my Beloved 87
I was referring to 2nd gen TACOMAS! Cheesy --> :tease:

Saturday, April 23, 2016: Flagstaff, AZ to Las Vegas, NV

This was the part of the trip we were most looking forward to :)

Left our motel and stopped at a grocery store for some snacks. It's a habit of mine to park alongside fixed objects or at the end of a row to reduce the chances of someone's door striking my vehicle by 50%. I actually haven't parked next to a shopping cart return in a long time. Found this when I came out of the store. I should have known better!!

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Who can be this lazy with shopping carts! Geeeeeeez. The cart return is right there and they missed. They had only one job to do.

Fortunately the cart didn't leave any permanent damage. The point of contact was the taillight lens assembly which didn't get even a scratch. My first thought other than "I'm an idiot" was, "well at least the lens could have been readily replaced".

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Hwy 89 north from Flagstaff was a really nice drive. Calm with nice rolling plateaus and buttes.

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We had some tailwind and the fuel mileage was INCREDIBLE. I don't recall the tailwind being "really" strong but it certainly helped. This was our average with cruise set to 70 MPH for a solid 1-1/2 hours.

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At "The Gap"

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 28, 2016, 09:31:58 PM
Approaching the Navajo Bridge over the Colorado River, the views were really becoming amazing

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 28, 2016, 10:28:58 PM
Reached the Navajo Bridge and the mighty Colorado River

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Before this bridge was constructed in 1927-29, the only way across was by ferry. The crossing over Marble Canyon is 467 feet above the river and is about 1/6th of a mile long. By the 1990s traffic had out grown the 60 year old bridge and was rerouted across a new bridge finished in 1995.

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Really neat looking bridges. Love looking at each piece of steel and visualizing how stresses are distributed across. Wife and I walked out to the middle and really enjoyed the view for a while. Good times.

Here is the modern replacement bridge. The original one still stands but is only used for foot traffic / exhibition.

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Calm, peaceful view of the Colorado.

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 28, 2016, 10:35:27 PM
Moar from the area

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Hope the Tacoma understands its life will be around rocks this size and larger soon

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Some saaaweeeet drive-bys

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 28, 2016, 10:50:19 PM
Climbing back up the other side. Love the six speed manual and power in the hills. Very impressed with this truck

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 28, 2016, 10:52:59 PM
Jacob Lake Arizona. Elevation 7,925 feet.

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Looking north towards...

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Utah!

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Apr 28, 2016, 11:08:15 PM
Four Corners??
you gotta go to the Aztec ruins
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Apr 28, 2016, 11:16:32 PM
:woohoo:
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 29, 2016, 02:43:14 PM
you gotta go to the Aztec ruins
See my comment on this plus other NM sites we missed @ reply #91, previous page (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1120753#msg1120753).

So this was why we came north out of Phoenix instead of continuing west on I10: My wife and I have always wanted to visit Zion National Park!!

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We've driven past it twice visiting the Grand Canyon and I've been past it a dozen times or so on wheel'n trips to Moab. Really happy to finally visit "Not Zion"!

We knew our time would be limited so we planned to tour the park to figure out what sort of camping and hiking we'd like to do, and then fully enjoy it on a return trip :thumbs:

The cost to enter is $30 and one awesome thing is that the National Parks Service is celebrating their 100th year and all admission was waved! We got in our first trip for free :cool:

Really nice rock formations here

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I wanted to try driving up this rock slope so bad hahaha

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A Taco for the hand!

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Someday after a lot of work this truck will be able to do some Crawling. I'm not talking about that goofy Toyota "Crawl Control" limited-use over-heating gimmick. I'm talking REAL Crawling. Man... Marlin should have trademarked "Rock Crawling" and similar terms all of which he invented. At least some credit would have been nice Toyota.

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: bigarms23 on Apr 29, 2016, 03:22:44 PM
nice its not sased yet
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 29, 2016, 03:47:25 PM
Took the truck through it's first tunnel. I flipped the light switch to AUTO to test that out (previously had not been using it) and .....nothing. I had to manually flip the lights on. I've never driven an automobile with automatic lights. I thought, wow, what a pointless system. But after this point I began testing AUTO mode out and yes it works great. I think it just needed some time to get situated as I had just barely switched to AUTO before entering the tunnel. I also discovered that the awesome LED driving lights only turn on when in the AUTO position. Since this time I've left AUTO on and found settings under Customize > Vehicle > Lights to set it's sensitivity to minimum. Love'n it.

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Once we came out the other end WOW the entire Zion valley opened up with very steep walls and a nice series of steep switchbacks down to the bottom. That tunnel must have been some serious engineering feat.

Due to the nature of all the switchbacks and how narrow the road was, I couldn't stop for any pics until we were nearly all the way down. The view looking back up was awesome

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Looking towards the main area of Zion Nat. Park

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Goldrush on Apr 29, 2016, 04:06:23 PM
truck looks nice Mike! i wanna come by and check it soon! Can't wait for all the mods!
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 29, 2016, 04:30:18 PM
Inside the park visitors are only allowed to drive west out of the tunnel and then south towards Springdale, Utah, or vice versa. The bulk of the National Park, or rather the main attractions are north up the canyon following the Virgin River from a point only accessible by park shuttles.

Consider the following map. The pink road towards the bottom is where visitors are allowed to drive (check out the switchbacks). The dotted section is the tunnel. The yellow road is the route the park shuttles travel.

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The plan was to park near Canyon Junction and take a shuttle up to all the stops, but parking was crazy packed. I found a nice sidehill off-camber section with loose dirt to park on that was far enough off the road I didn't think I'd get a ticket. More about this later ;)

We took the shuttle up to the very far north stop for The Narrows and then did the 2 mile round trip Riverside hike.

Looking up the Virgin River along the Riverside Trail

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Flash flood warnings were in effect and the Narrows were closed. It is ok as we did not have the gear nor the time to go through them. Great to know how the park works so when we return we won't waste any time learning the ropes.

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Wow what a beautiful place. Entirely surrounded by vertical, steep canyon walls.

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I realized how I am fortunate to live only 1-1/2 hours from Yosemite. I was thinking how some people here probably had never seen Yosemite before. I haven't done any hiking here yet, but things are much closer together and I do like it here better than Yosemite. Only difference is that Zion is faaaaaaaaar smaller than Yosemite. Only speculating but it seems one could experience most all Zion trails in one stay whereas this would be impossible in Yosemite.

Zion had some nice Rock Climbing opportunities. (I used to climb a lot and my former brother-in-law was a professional climber for Fiveten.)

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We are both excited to return for an actual camping trip with the Tacoma of course!
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 29, 2016, 04:57:12 PM
I liked the first pic out of the tunnel so much I had to do this :D

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I found a nice sidehill off-camber section with loose dirt to park on that was far enough off the road I didn't think I'd get a ticket. More about this later ;)

No, I did not get a ticket ;) but I should have taken a picture of how much of a sidehill the truck was on because it ended up being a mess.

So we get back to the truck and some black Chevy family car had backed in and parked right in front of me. I couldn't back up any because there was a rock as high as the bumper behind me, so I had to peg the wheel hard left and try to drive out. Now I knew this wouldn't be possible as the truck was already sideways and a hard-left back onto the road required climbing up from the side of the shoulder. Sorry no photo but hope you can visualize it. I figured there wasn't enough space for anyone to park in front of me and we'd just drive straight while leveling out and back onto the road. As it turned out the Chevy car was half on the road just to park in front of me. Idiot.

So with the wheels turned full left, I slip the clutch in 1st gear and the rear immediately digs, slides to the right downhill about a foot, and sinks a bit. OK. Figured as much. Time for 4WD.

I rotate the dial to 4WD, wait for it to engage, and then push & rotate it to Low Range. Nothing. It just beeps and beeps and beeps at me. I've got it in neutral, what more does it want?? I'm wondering... well.... is it in? I didn't have this issue back in Texas when I was messing with 4WD in the parking lot.

So I try to slip the clutch and pull forward and immediately kill the engine. Fire it back up, low range still beeping at me, and I kill it again.

OK, obviously not in low range. Wife is wondering if we need to call a tow truck. I look at her like, seriously? Have you not gone four wheeling so many times with me in my Hilux? sheeesh.

I rotate the dial back to High Range and figure OK, guess I'll have to finesse the crap out of this in high range. Finally after work'n the clutch I'm able to pull forward under my own power and merge back onto the road.

Now I'm thinking, "Man... This electronic shifting is a real JOKE." It's as if I needed to rock the truck forward and rearward for the t/case to engage low range but the very thing I needed was low range; I couldn't rock it at all. With a physical shift handle you can feel how loaded the drive train is and work the torque loading on the drivetrain to engage low range without the truck even moving. With this Tacoma I'm at the mercy of some spring inside some electric motor housing.

Additional Info:
It wasn't until I was back in Fresno while trying to engage Low Range again when I had the same issue, and Tim aka TURBO suggested I try engaging the clutch and whatta ya know it went straight in and out and in and out no problem :rofl: :rofl2: I suppose I could have read the owners manual :ha_ha: So all that clutch abuse for nothing. At least I figured it out. I guess back in Texas I must have had the clutch engaged for no reason right at the moment I engaged low range. :P

Finally out of Zion, stopped for some delicious Mexican food in Springdale.

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Finally here we are checking into our hotel in south Las Vegas. Ohhh man almost back to California and things are starting to look normal to me again :P

I love these LED parking lights. Looks so cool.

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The hotel offered us VIP parking and I was like, "Hell No! Ummm, sorry, I mean, no, no thank you, I'll handle it myself :D"

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Day Five is in the books!
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 29, 2016, 04:59:41 PM
truck looks nice Mike! i wanna come by and check it soon! Can't wait for all the mods!
Hey Zach! Swing by our shop sometime and I'll take ya out for a ride :driving:
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Apr 29, 2016, 10:54:46 PM
that much closer to chop chop chop chop time!
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Apr 30, 2016, 02:23:03 AM
our suburban has to roll a few feet before the front diff will engage.  Its got nothing on old Bruiser. AND I'll be starting the reassembly of the old girl this week. then hopefully I can stay healthy for the summer.  I SO want to make it to the Southern Cruiser crawl :driving:
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Cheesemaker on Apr 30, 2016, 08:45:39 AM
Mike, your a funny man!!   :rofl2:   When you say 2nd gen, I will always refer to my truck!  The original 2nd Gen!! 


Mike your making me jealous!  I always love taking a road every summer.  Even if its the same destination most of the time.  This year, will be the first in may years that we won't be planning a trip anywhere.  Too much stuff going on this summer, and finances are tight.  One day, the wife and I will do a across the country trip.  I want to see all the National Parks, the Al-Can Highway to Alaska, and who knows what else.  I would love to do it in a Toyota set up for expedition style traveling.  If I were to have a Tacoma, I would definitely go with a long travel IFS that Jon sells.  Best of both worlds. 

My mom & step dad did Glacier, Yellowstone/Grand Tetons, Bryce, Zion, and Grand Canyon in one trip.  She said she preferred Bryce over Zion. 
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: CrazyYota on Apr 30, 2016, 01:29:49 PM
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/pts/5548664752.html

White hood!
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 03, 2016, 10:25:20 PM
Ok let's get this first road trip finished up!

Sunday, April 24, 2016: Las Vegas, NV to Fresno, CA

Only had about a 6 hr drive to get home. Starting to feel relieved finally.

Got breakfast at an amazing Crepe restaurant the wife located in south Vegas, and on our way back out to the truck I found an awesome fellow 3rd gen owner parked near our truck. It was extra special because this is the Blue I really like that started this journey for me. :thumbsup:

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I'm really in love with this truck

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Time for another...

The curious things... Part IV
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 03, 2016, 10:26:08 PM
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/pts/5548664752.html

White hood!
Ooooof that's a lot of money. I'll be making a direct trade for free for sure :thumbs:
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 03, 2016, 10:26:20 PM
So I'm continuing down I15 when I see not only a 3rd gen Tacoma coming up behind me in the fast lane but a White TRD Sport model!! WOOHOO! I'm thinking, "Come awwwwwn Access Cab!" But it was a Double Cab. Nonetheless I immediately looked over with a thumbs up sign when the truck passed me and the DRIVER DID THE SAME! Woooohooooooo! Love it! It took over 2,000 miles but I FINALLY found another happy, excited Tacoma owner! That was so much fun, here is his Tacoma:

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Welcome to Baker, California. One of the warmest Cities in the country and also home to the largest Thermometer in the World! haha Silly and I'm sure few care about this place but I stopped for some pics anyway :P

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The cities motto of "Gateway to Death Valley" says it all

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As we approached "The Original Windy City" of Tehachapi, we had headwinds of 23 MPH and it peaked at 25 MPH. Zapped the fuel mileage.

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I slowed down to 60 MPH and somehow managed over 21 MPG with the crazy headwind.

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 03, 2016, 10:26:29 PM
Rolling into Fresno via Clovis Avenue for the first time. Ahhhhhhh man home sweeeeeeeeeet home!

At right is famous Simonian Farms (http://www.simonianfarms.com)

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Finally. Made it to my parent's house to pick up my cat :D

Two thousand five hundred miles. Whew.

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And at last, parked outside our garage.

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Made it home safe and sound. The perfect ending to a new epic beginning. I cannot wait to get started with this truck. I'll be busy showcasing the truck at three events before I can start working on it, with the main push being to be Rubicon-ready for TLCA's annual Rubithon event June 24th (http://rubithon.com). Not sure if this will happen but it's Goal #1 for sure!

Thank you for watching and I've got a lot more to come!

Regards,
BigMike
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: TacoTue on May 04, 2016, 06:35:32 AM
It's interesting you did not receive the valet key, i have the push to start and i got a spare set and a valet key! Well the dealer described it as a valet key, found out it's the tailgate key. So happy that you're as thrilled about your new taco as I am. I absolutely love my TRD 4x4 Sport. I'm anxiously awaiting your build, it will be nice to see a trail rig built vice the lifted city trucks I've seen.

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Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Mudder on May 04, 2016, 06:44:42 AM
I think we need a picture of said cat! That truck does look sweet, the auto light function is hard to get used to but it is nice not having to worry if you left you lights on.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Toyotadon on May 04, 2016, 08:45:53 AM
Aww man, I thought you were going to go on to Cruise Moab and really break this thing in.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Cheesemaker on May 05, 2016, 07:53:03 AM
Rolling into Fresno via Clovis Avenue for the first time. Ahhhhhhh man home sweeeeeeeeeet home!

At right is famous Simonian Farms (http://www.simonianfarms.com)

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Regards,
BigMike

I have always wanted to check that place out.  Just never had.  I love the old equipment they have.
Title: Re: BigMike’s Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: camhays556 on May 05, 2016, 03:42:49 PM
Hey Bigmike, I met you at the Bakersfield landcruiser rally (I had the white tacoma on 35s) thanks for showing me your new rig. It was great to finally meet you and Marlin, good luck with the new tacoma project :beerchug:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Hilux_Max on May 18, 2016, 06:11:41 PM
G'day Mike,

Congratulations on the purchase of the 2016 Tacoma. I am looking forward to how it progresses....what do you have in plan for it?

I too just purchased a 2016 Hilux 4x4 that I hope to start a new build project on shortly, having come from a 2007 Hilux 4x4 that Marlin & Wyatt graciously helped installl a CrawlBox into. 

Original thread that Wyatt posting on the installation of the Dual Cases - http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=67634.0 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=67634.0)

The 2016 Tacoma & Hilux's have some similarities so I will be paying close attention to what you guys manage to develop for them.

This is what I have ordered for August 2016  delivery - 2.8 Diesel 6 speed auto:
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And this is what I came from:
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Video of her performing below with the dual Marlin cases:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAretu_pfzI&feature=player_embedded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAretu_pfzI&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Hilux_Max on May 18, 2016, 06:38:07 PM


This perception of Marlin Crawler is going to change real quick once I get this truck.



Looking forward to this  :thumbs: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 30, 2016, 05:18:01 PM
I think we need a picture of said cat!
:wave:
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It's interesting you did not receive the valet key, i have the push to start and i got a spare set and a valet key!
I did receive a second key but it appears to be identical to the main key. Same with our Yaris. We received two identical keys both with door lock/unlock buttons. No valet key with either new vehicle.

Hey Bigmike, I met you at the Bakersfield landcruiser rally (I had the white tacoma on 35s) thanks for showing me your new rig. It was great to finally meet you and Marlin, good luck with the new tacoma project :beerchug:
Hey Cameron, yes I remember! You were parked on the other side of the parking lot behind and to the west of our booth :wave: Thanks for posting

G'day Mike
Hello Max! Yes of course I know about you; I helped Marlin over the phone with the coupler issue :wave: Awesome man ya got a new Hilux!! Also Congrats!! Wish we had Diesel options here. Wikipedia says that turbocharged 2.8 1GD-FTV 4 banger is rated at 330 lb-ft as early as 1,400 RPM!! :shocking: :shocking: :shocking: Ugggggggggggg So frustrating Toyota. We can't get any breaks over here.

Question: Is the 70-series LC being discontinued or could you have picked up a 2016 model?

Also, where is your '07? Did you sell it?!

I have always wanted to check that place out.  Just never had.  I love the old equipment they have.
Don't come all the way here just to visit it, but if you're ever in the area again it is a neat place to check out. They recently opened 'Old Town' which has some original Fresno landmarks/memorabilia from the 19th century on display which is really neat: http://www.simonianfarms.com/oldtown/

Sorry for the lack of updates. I've been crazy busy with work and haven't had much time for progress, but I do have plenty to update to this thread so I need to get back to posting!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 30, 2016, 05:18:48 PM
F-I-N-A-L-L-Y at Marlin Crawler!!

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While showing the engine compartment to our guys at work we noticed it is ALREADY rusting :sheerterror: :sheerterror: :scared: :scared: :sad2: :sad2:

L@@K AT THIS:

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This is near the passenger's side hood hinge / A-pillar. Other nearby bolt holes and those on the other side of the compartment are all painted. Is this something I can take to the dealer and have them repair ASAP before it spreads?

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It does sound like there is noise coming from the back firewall or lower b-pillar areas. I noticed there is a rubber flap on both sides between the cab & bed to isolate vertical flow between the two. Nice touch Toyota. But I wonder if this higher velocity of air between the two is coming through as noise in the cab...
Here is what I was talking about:

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Hilux_Max on May 30, 2016, 07:45:57 PM

Hello Max! Yes of course I know about you; I helped Marlin over the phone with the coupler issue :wave: Awesome man ya got a new Hilux!! Also Congrats!! Wish we had Diesel options here. Wikipedia says that turbocharged 2.8 1GD-FTV 4 banger is rated at 330 lb-ft as early as 1,400 RPM!! :shocking: :shocking: :shocking: Ugggggggggggg So frustrating Toyota. We can't get any breaks over here.

Question: Is the 70-series LC being discontinued or could you have picked up a 2016 model?

Also, where is your '07? Did you sell it?!


Sorry for the lack of updates. I've been crazy busy with work and haven't had much time for progress, but I do have plenty to update to this thread so I need to get back to posting!


Yes,  the 70 series we heard is being discontinued next year....nothing confirmed 100% yet thou but thats the rumour on the grapevine.   I considered the 70 series, but the cost difference between the Hilux and Landcruiser is significant.

Yes I sold the 07 Hilux about 2 years ago. It went to a good home in outback central Australia in a town called "Cooper-Pedy".    it is very remote and very hot, and most of the population lives underground in caves to escape the heat. They renovate the caves into make shift homes with all modern appliances and requirements.

Looking forward to the updates on your tacoma.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: swilson on May 30, 2016, 10:00:23 PM
Hey Mike, congrats on the new truck.  Can't wait to see how you'll build it up!

Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: mdtrail-toy on May 31, 2016, 11:35:24 AM
Hey Mike, as far as the surface rust in the engine bay. I'm sure you may want to address it with Toyota but if you decide to tackle it yourself first it looks like its not to bad from the pics. I own a detail shop out here and was Toyota certified when I was with them. My thought to go about it is you want to remove then seal it, not just touch up over it, because that's just hiding the problem not fixing it. Get just basic Lacquer thinner from the hardware store ( mineral spirits may work but is not as aggressive ) this will not cause any issues to the painted surfaces. Put a good bit of the thinner onto a rag and jam it in the hole a twist it the best you can to get into the threads. Keep doing that until getting you get it. Then you can seal it with just regular touch up, but its important to get a clear coat touchup aswell because that is what's going to actually seal it. Sorry for the  overly complicated explanation which you probably already knew, But that sort of stuff is very frustrating on a brand new vehicle . Good luck sir :thumbs:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: H8PVMNT on May 31, 2016, 12:15:23 PM
Toyota just wanted you to feel at home. They must have put the rust on there so you would feel a connection to your old hilux.

When are you going to have some wheeling pics?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: blackdiamond on May 31, 2016, 03:27:51 PM
Toyota just wanted you to feel at home. They must have put the rust on there so you would feel a connection to your old hilux.

When are you going to have some wheeling pics?

He did some "wheeling" in Moab, did you miss those pictures?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 01, 2016, 09:42:47 AM
Sorry for the  overly complicated explanation which you probably already knew, But that sort of stuff is very frustrating on a brand new vehicle . Good luck sir :thumbs:
mdtrail-toy, thank you very much for the explanation! One thing I am not is a paint & detail guy. Your post is exactly what I need, thank you :hattip:

Toyota just wanted you to feel at home. They must have put the rust on there so you would feel a connection to your old hilux.
:funny:

He did some "wheeling" in Moab, did you miss those pictures?
:shhh:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 01, 2016, 09:54:03 AM
Tuesday, April 26, 2016: The 2016 Tacoma meets the 1981 Hilux

First day back my goal was ABSOLUTELY to go wheeling side-by-side with my Hilux. I was planning this the entire time. I really want to see how this Tacoma does 100% stock. Only problem is, while we were still in Texas I received news that our only year-round trail, Bald Mtn, was closed until the end of May. I missed the date by one week. The timing with this entire ordeal has just been horrible. Nonetheless I wanted to at least go somewhere with the Tacoma stock so I invited TURBO to drive my Hilux and we headed up to Millerton Lake :driving:

My two trucks together at last!!

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In case anyone is wondering, I'm running FJ80-width front Diamond axle and a 1st gen Tacoma rear axle. Tires are 37x12.50 on 15s.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 01, 2016, 10:08:05 AM
My first truck wash!

This was pretty crazy for me because since owning and building my Hilux in 2004 I swear to you I have only washed it THREE TIMES TOTAL. The Hilux works hard and gets the job done every time. I :love: it looking like it goes wheeling rather than some pavement pounder. This doesn't mean I beat it up; It is easy to wheel hard without taking damage thanks to the Triple Marlin Crawler. But as for the Tacoma I've known for a long time that this is a show piece and I'm gonna keep it clean and presentable.

A car wash and it hasn't even been off-road what am I thinking :yupyup:

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If you've got this in your rear view then you're in for some good times.

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Truth be told the new Tacoma is only barely making better highway mileage than my old Hilux on 37" meats. Going to be interesting to see how much MPG is lost once the Tacoma gets some tires under it.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: deans87 on Jun 01, 2016, 10:22:20 AM
Jealous I want. One lol
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Slabzilla on Jun 01, 2016, 12:30:36 PM
Great trip report on your cool new ride!  Anticipating awesomeness.  New vehicles always require a learning curve, especially when they have added all these modern "conveniences".  Awaiting the transmografication with excitement!  :clap:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 01, 2016, 03:58:30 PM
Quick highway comparison

65 MPH
Hilux 5th gear: 2,800 RPM
Tacoma 5th gear: 2,600 RPM
Tacoma 6th gear: 2,200 RPM

Making our way up to the lake...

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Regrouped

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: zippo on Jun 01, 2016, 04:33:46 PM
You going to trailer or flat tow the First gen?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 01, 2016, 04:38:11 PM
Again, not much to do until the trail(s) open. Here come just some random pics!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 01, 2016, 04:38:30 PM
"Hardcore"

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Thought these pics were neat so I made an ani GIF

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 01, 2016, 04:40:42 PM
You going to trailer or flat tow the First gen?
The 1981 has NEVER been on a trailer and under my watch it NEVER will!! [evil laugh]HA! HA! HA![/evil laugh]

I'm quite proud of the fact the Hilux has done some tough wheel'n for the past twelve years and has yet to leave me stranded. :thumbs: Go Go Marlin Crawler!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 01, 2016, 05:09:43 PM
Despite not doing much of anything it was fun. TURBO and I figured out why I was struggling with low range. I couldn't get it to engage. It would just sit there beeping and beeping at me. Apparently neutral is not enough and low range will ONLY engage when the clutch is engaged. I guess I can understand this from a redundancy standpoint, but seriously when the transmission is in neutral the output shaft is unable to transfer any measurable torque. Sure there are bearings spinning on a free shaft which could cause it to slowly rotate from the oil's viscosity, but honestly... Guess I should have read the manual :ha_ha: It's still sitting in the glove box.

Disabling this nuisance has been added to my list ;)

The 4.30 R&P and 3.98:1 first gear do an okay-job but won't know until I actually climb something with measurable obstacles.

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There were two other choices for the day...

One was to continue up to Bass Lake where we have some lower elevation trails, but after talking to my friend from Yosemite Lakes Parkway he said some forest gates are open while others are still closed. Obviously I am not remotely interested in taking my chances if the roads are still closed.

The other is Blue Canyon / Bretz Mill. So I called our High Sierra Ranger Distract OHV Manager who informed me that while there are no gates for obstacles (such as this video of my Hilux climbing Two Step (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4kyDHdZfIY)), all trails are closed.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 01, 2016, 05:40:28 PM
Back in town we topped off both tanks. I'm running a 20 gallon tank in the Hilux, and according to my brochure the Tacoma has a 21.1 gallon tank.

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This was important because I then did this :D

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Which brings us to our FIRST product Give-A-Way!!!!!!

We will send a Free Marlin Crawler Hat to the first person who guesses the closest weights for both trucks!

(https://www.marlincrawler.com/sites/all/marlin/files/hat_black_02.jpg)

So let's see some guesses!

1981 Rock Crawler with Triple Transfer Cases and full USA DOM armor: ____ lbs
2016 Bone-stock 4WD V6 Manual Transmission TRD Sport Access Cab: ____ lbs
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on Jun 01, 2016, 06:13:51 PM
2016 4325 + 21.1 * 6.3 (gasoline) = 4458 no driver
1981  3000 + 20 * 6.3 = 3126 no driver
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Dingman. on Jun 01, 2016, 06:39:20 PM
4459 for tacoma
3127 for hilux. :gap:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: jerz4wd on Jun 01, 2016, 06:47:13 PM
Tacoma 5420
Hilux4815
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 02, 2016, 08:18:13 AM
Man these are horrible guesses! :shakehead: Might have to cancel this Give-A-Way.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: mudmaster on Jun 02, 2016, 08:18:59 AM
Tacoma 4785
Hilux 3625
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: kjchubby on Jun 02, 2016, 08:42:48 AM
Tacoma - 4221 lbs
Hilux - 3851 lbs
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Toyotadon on Jun 02, 2016, 10:26:09 AM
1981 Rockcrawler = 3790 lb.
2016 Tacoma = 4015 lb.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 02, 2016, 10:37:02 AM
Thanks to all who guessed! Here are the results!

MemberTruck     Guess     % error     Ave % error
emsvitil19813,12617.39.1
20164,4580.9
Dingman.19813,12717.39.1
20164,4590.9
jerz4wd19814,81527.425
20165,42022.6
mudmaster   19813,6254.16.2
20164,7858.3
kjchubby19813,8511.93.2 * winner!!
20164,2214.5
Toyotadon19813,7900.34.75
20164,0159.2


The correct weights are, drum roll please!
1981 3,780 lbs
2016 4,420 lbs


Toyotadon had the closest average guess accuracy of 4.75% to actual so he gets the Hat! ONLY 10 LBS OFF!! :o Hiya Don :wave: When is the next time you'll be by our shop? I'll keep a hat in my office for ya!

Ok that was pretty fun, I'll have to think of some more ways to do something like this with this build :D

I was thinking the Tacoma would be 500 pounds heavier. I knew my Hilux is on the light side. I built it to be light and efficient. It turned out to be 640 lbs heavier. According to some quick searches, a stock 1981 4WD weighed in at 2,975 to 3,065 lbs. So if we assume 3,000 lbs like emsvitil suggested, then I've got 800 lbs of Rock Crawling equipment. The Tacoma could potentially become close to 5,250 lbs! Holy moly! From where I come from this is pretty heavy and any weight makes it that much harder to get up a trail. Gonna be fun wheeling this Taco! Seriously can't wait!!

Hilux
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Tacoma
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I didn't realize I could have parked on two different cement slabs or else I would have gotten individual axle weights. Bummer.

EDIT: Fixed data!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Toyotadon on Jun 02, 2016, 01:37:50 PM
Cool!  I really thought the Tacoma would be lighter.  It has a GVWR of around 5500 lb. so that only leaves you with 500 lb. of payload if you have 600 lb. of passengers.  Half-ton truck?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 02, 2016, 02:38:44 PM
Cool!  I really thought the Tacoma would be lighter.  It has a GVWR of around 5500 lb. so that only leaves you with 500 lb. of payload if you have 600 lb. of passengers.  Half-ton truck?
I've heard by today's standards it is a quarter ton. Brochure lists a payload capacity of 1,620 lbs, listing this as GVWR minus curb weight. My door sticker lists GVWR as 5,600 lbs. Subtract 4,420 lbs and we get a total payload of 1,180 lbs. Minus me we get 1,005 lbs. So I suppose that technically it is a half-ton but people on different forums are claiming it's not a true half-ton.

Wednesday, April 27, 2016: Rock Sliders

First official day back at work and I got All Pro's brand new 2016 "Extreme Duty" APEX Rock Sliders installed. These are built from 1.75" x 0.125" USA-made DOM tubing with four x 2" square legs per side. Not only DOM but also 4% thicker walled than their standard sliders. On my Hilux I am running our old USA-made DOM sliders that are 0.120" and I have come down on them so HARD at times that once the impact killed the engine. Not sure why but it did. Yet they have only sustained small dents. USA-made DOM tubing is the REAL deal. None of this imported Chinese recycled lawn chair CRAP that other companies sell. (See my USA HREW vs Imported DOM tech article. (http://'http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=60158') You get what you pay for!)

Knowing the Tacoma is heavier I wouldn't want anything less than these: https://www.allprooffroad.com/tech-info-mainmenu-63/model/16-tacoma-mainmenu-113/2016-tacoma-sliders (https://www.allprooffroad.com/tech-info-mainmenu-63/model/16-tacoma-mainmenu-113/2016-tacoma-sliders)

In my opinion Rock Sliders are the #1 most important piece of body armor so on they go!

The Tacoma enters our back shop for it's first time!!

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Had the sliders painted and ready to go on. First time ever installing "bolt-on" body armor and I thought the fit was pretty good. We had to elongate one hole on each side but otherwise it was pretty straight forward.

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The plan is to get these mounted and good to go with just spray paint, and then in the near future take them off and get em properly powder coated. You'll never know if some minor grinding is needed so better to just get em on now and worry about long-term paint later.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 02, 2016, 02:39:05 PM
Weight is 73.2 lbs each. Probably 150 combined with hardware. Whew. They are available without the dimpled plate. I'm not a big fan of the plating, but, it adds more strength and as much as I don't like formed bumpers I'm probably not gonna have much of a choice. So might as well match the sliders to whatever bumpers I decide to run. (Currently I don't like any bumper I've seen for the 2016 and have already conceded that tube alone won't pan out.)

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Getting them in place and installing...

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I am certainly not a fan of this very large gap between the bottom of the door and the top of the slider. Rough measurement has this at a 2-3/8" gap. That is 2.375" of ground clearance... But, more on this later ;)

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 02, 2016, 02:39:23 PM
I do like the 2"x2" square legs. Pretty stout.

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You can see tapered hardware along the bottom. The hex head bolt is an OEM Toyota bolt. Obviously I'll need to convert that and any others to a low profile / tapered bolt. I think ideally they should be tac welded once I'm satisfied with everything. Don't know if I like the idea of bolts alone. Probably this is just my old ways clouding my thoughts.

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There is a stamped steel bracket whose sole purpose is to just hold two plugs. No wonder this truck weighs 4.4 thousand pounds! I'd like to scoure much of the truck for silly uncessary weight like this and get em removed. For now I just zip tied it up and out of the way.

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All done!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 02, 2016, 02:39:34 PM
Took it out to the dirt for some pics :D

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I am VERY pleased with these. Very nice work AP!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 02, 2016, 02:39:48 PM
I also like how the kick outs are muted. I was never a fan of the All Pro Hilux sliders because of how far out the kick out is on those but this is much less pronounced and I like it. Nice change.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 02, 2016, 02:39:57 PM
Here is another shot of the gap between the door and the slider. I can stack three fingers between the two. Will discuss more on this later.

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The dimpled plate does look great once installed I have to admit.

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View from the rear door

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View from the driver's seat

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on Jun 02, 2016, 02:50:04 PM
Thanks to all who guessed! Here are the results!

Member   Guess   % error
emsvitil
1981   4,458   17.9
2016   3,126   29.3

Dingman.
1981   4,459   18
2016   3,127   29.3

jerz4wd
1981   5,420   43.4
2016   4,815   8.9

mudmaster
1981   4,785   26.6
2016   3,625   18

kjchubby
1981   4,221   11.7
2016   3,851   12.9


1981   3,851   1.9
2016   4,221   4.5


Toyotadon
1981   3,790   0.3
2016   4,015   9.2

The correct weights are, drum roll please!
1981 3,780 lbs
2016 4,420 lbs


Toyotadon had the closest average guess accuracy of 4.75% to actual so he gets the Hat! ONLY 10 LBS OFF!! :o Hiya Don :wave: When is the next time you'll be by our shop? I'll keep a hat in my office for ya!

Ok that was pretty fun, I'll have to think of some more ways to do something like this with this build :D

I was thinking the Tacoma would be 500 pounds heavier. I knew my Hilux is on the light side. I built it to be light and efficient. It turned out to be 640 lbs heavier. According to some quick searches, a stock 1981 4WD weighed in at 2,975 to 3,065 lbs. So if we assume 3,000 lbs like emsvitil suggested, then I've got 800 lbs of Rock Crawling equipment. The Tacoma could potentially become close to 5,250 lbs! Holy moly! From where I come from this is pretty heavy and any weight makes it that much harder to get up a trail. Gonna be fun wheeling this Taco! Seriously can't wait!!

Hilux
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Tacoma
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I didn't realize I could have parked on two different cement slabs or else I would have gotten individual axle weights. Bummer.

EDIT: Copied kjchubby's weights backwards!

I think I still lost, but you've reversed a bunch of the weights (mine included) for different people.................
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on Jun 02, 2016, 02:52:23 PM
How much does it cost to weigh your truck anyway?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 02, 2016, 03:17:04 PM
you've reversed a bunch of the weights (mine included) for different people.................
Dang it people not following directions.... Me reading too quickly.... :conf:

I expected my questions would be answered in the order presented. Sorry for the mistake, redoing them all now... :willynilly:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 02, 2016, 03:42:09 PM
Ok guys!! BIG Thanks to both kjchubby and emsvitil for notifying me that I copied some data wrong. I got all the numbers updated and in a proper table format this time...

...and we have a NEW WINNER!! --> kjchubby <--

Toyotadon, I'll still keep a hat here for ya to come pick up the next time you're at our shop :thumbs: In the meantime kjchubby please PM me your name and address so I can get some sa-weeeeet MC swag headed your way!!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on Jun 02, 2016, 03:49:28 PM
And mine is still wrong.............

I had 4458 for Tacoma................... not 4325
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 02, 2016, 04:16:15 PM
How much does it cost to weigh your truck anyway?
It was $10.50 per vehicle which I know is rather excessive just for this test, but I figured I've always wanted to know what the Hilux weighs plus there is a recycler just down the street from our shop that has a scale for weighing loads of cardboard/newspaper and they give out free verbal weights. This is how I've weighed my MR2 over the years. But.... It doesn't need to be accurate. All it needs to be is consistent. But it would be nice to know how accurate it is! So on our way back to the shop I drove the Tacoma straight to the recyclers and pulled up on the scale and got a weight quote at exactly the same reading as the CAT scale. So I felt it was worth the charge even if just from a research aspect :thumbs: Nice to have official print-outs for a change.

BigMike
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 02, 2016, 04:19:07 PM
I had 4458 for Tacoma

Thanks, got it fixed. It is now 0.6% closer! That is a nice guess BTW for the Tacoma.

MemberTruck     Guess     % error     Ave % error
emsvitil19813,12617.39.1
20164,4580.9
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Toyotadon on Jun 02, 2016, 05:06:34 PM
LOL, you don't follow the rules, you don't get to win.  :respekt:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Jun 27, 2016, 11:53:59 PM
time to cut that thing up!!!!!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jul 11, 2016, 11:12:31 AM
time to cut that thing up!!!!!
:yupyup: It will get some cutting done prior to the Round Up that's for sure ;)

I have been out of town for the past 2 weeks; Planning to resume posting updates soon :wave:

It is going far slower than planned due to all the wheeling events and marketing going on. Had we received this truck when originally expected then we would have built it up during the winter / early spring months before the wheeling season got into gear. Now it's a big mess trying to get much of anything done on the side for me... Nevertheless it's Round Up or bust for the Tacoma!!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Prismo on Jul 23, 2016, 02:26:06 PM
Mike, I showed my lady this thread when she was searching for new vehicles. I guess she was swayed by it because we now have a new truck. I put the blame squarely upon you.  :gap:  :haha:
It did get 16.5 mpg towing my "new car" back over 3 passes from Eastern Washington & the best part was only needing 4th gear twice going over the passes. What a difference from the 22re 4runner.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: kneedownnate on Jul 24, 2016, 11:56:33 AM
I've heard by today's standards it is a quarter ton. Brochure lists a payload capacity of 1,620 lbs, listing this as GVWR minus curb weight. My door sticker lists GVWR as 5,600 lbs. Subtract 4,420 lbs and we get a total payload of 1,180 lbs. Minus me we get 1,005 lbs. So I suppose that technically it is a half-ton but people on different forums are claiming it's not a true half-ton.

That's the great thing about the internets; your own opinion can morph into fact, and you can corroborate your opinion when somebody agrees with you.  Name one 1/2 ton truck that's a true 1/2 ton, and go back as far as you can.  A great many come up well short.  I've loaded the 80 hilux up with roughly a ton of soil (assumed from weights found online) and watched an s-10 in front of me ask the dude if he'd take some out since he was on the bumps well before he reached half the load I had. 

Full size truck guys have always puffed out their chests and called the minis 1/4 ton trucks.  Can they haul the load?  Sure.  Is it going to drive and stop as safely as a bigger truck?  Probably not.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Jul 24, 2016, 10:51:32 PM
Here is another shot of the gap between the door and the slider. I can stack three fingers between the two. Will discuss more on this later.

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The dimpled plate does look great once installed I have to admit.

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View from the rear door

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View from the driver's seat

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I would think angling the sliders up on the outside would help a lot.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Jul 24, 2016, 11:01:43 PM
It was $10.50 per vehicle which I know is rather excessive just for this test, but I figured I've always wanted to know what the Hilux weighs plus there is a recycler just down the street from our shop that has a scale for weighing loads of cardboard/newspaper and they give out free verbal weights. This is how I've weighed my MR2 over the years. But.... It doesn't need to be accurate. All it needs to be is consistent. But it would be nice to know how accurate it is! So on our way back to the shop I drove the Tacoma straight to the recyclers and pulled up on the scale and got a weight quote at exactly the same reading as the CAT scale. So I felt it was worth the charge even if just from a research aspect :thumbs: Nice to have official print-outs for a change.

BigMike
Wow it was $7 when I started driving trucks and 8.50 when I quit. 

You should have split your weight on each truck to see how well balanced they are.  cost is the same you just have to park on the scale correctly. Did you notice the big scale had 3 or 4 sections?  thats how you split the weight.
Eighteen wheelers must know how much weight is on the steer axle, the drive axles and the trailer ale or axles.


Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Jul 24, 2016, 11:10:11 PM
Do you have to wait for the warranty to expire before modifying the suspension??
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Toyotadon on Jul 25, 2016, 10:23:47 AM
It'll expire when he starts cutting.  :greengrin:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: OVRAROK on Jul 25, 2016, 10:27:59 AM
cant wait to see this truck in person, parked at the rubicon springs  :yesnod:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on Sep 03, 2016, 10:44:22 PM
From Scott Adam's Blog (Dilbert)


http://blog.dilbert.com/post/147352433956/how-not-to-buy-a-chevy-truck

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/147545750286/truck-buying-advice

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/148455234631/the-bait-and-switch-confusopoly-economy
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: helipilot77 on Sep 15, 2016, 11:06:40 AM
Saw this sitting in the lot at the local dealership. Looks like they are starting to offer more manuals since you bought yours.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: redneckcustoms13 on Sep 15, 2016, 05:27:03 PM
It's now offered in a double cab with supercharged engine with 6speed as well.  :psss:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Toyotadon on Sep 21, 2016, 09:31:12 AM
The competition is stacking up.  :greengrin:

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Sep 27, 2016, 01:43:02 AM
Hey BigMike,  our canadian friend Vman bought a 2016 Tacoma as well. his is a 3.4 and 6 speed.  He's hoping you start making some armor soon.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Oct 21, 2016, 05:54:51 AM
Ok now that you finally have a modern truck. I think it would be a real good idea to try putting a Solenoid on a crawler like we talked about.  :disturbed:

I have the Double Cab TRD Sport with a short box, Manual 6 speed and 3.5L V6. :driving:


No more excises now likes see some stuff for MY truck..  :thumbs:


First mod was a back rack to protect the rear windows and to give me a place to mount Antennas. Motor Kote in everything from Engine to Diffs, Transfer case and Transmission,  MPG goes up with Motor Kote.  Second was a set of Super Springs for trailer towing to stiffen the rear. I was going to remove them after, but I like the way the truck Rides now.   The Air Ram on the Front has to come OFF next time I am home. First snow bank and it's broken Plastic. 
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: TaroVr6 on Jan 09, 2017, 12:26:35 PM
:yupyup: It will get some cutting done prior to the Round Up that's for sure ;)

I have been out of town for the past 2 weeks; Planning to resume posting updates soon :wave:

It is going far slower than planned due to all the wheeling events and marketing going on. Had we received this truck when originally expected then we would have built it up during the winter / early spring months before the wheeling season got into gear. Now it's a big mess trying to get much of anything done on the side for me... Nevertheless it's Round Up or bust for the Tacoma!!
BigMike any updates??
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: ExCabSwap on Jan 09, 2017, 06:57:35 PM
And pics 👍

Sent from my LG-H830 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jan 12, 2017, 12:04:43 PM
Hey guys, loooooong time no news, it was a crazy busy year last year for me and timing just didn't work out at all for the Tacoma.

I've been working on multiple big projects here that are dragging on now more than 2 yrs and I hope to get them finished soon so I can start working on the Taco. I was so busy that I only made two wheel'n events last year the whole year. I'm pretty sure that is the fewest amount of wheel'n I've done in a year since my family began wheel'n in 1983. :down:

I did take the Tacoma out on a trail and will be reviving this thread soon enough with many, MANY updates to be taking place this spring!

I expect to really get back into all this after the extremely busy week of KOH is over with :thumbs:

Regards,
BigMike
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Jan 13, 2017, 01:29:03 PM
I just want a crawler box....shorten the shift handle and use a solenoid to shift it.   It can be an air or electric solenoid.  If you keep a thru the floor shifter I will still buy it...I will convert it to shift on a solenoid myself...
Ok a winch bump front and rear and some rocker Armour would be great....
I tow a trailer offroad so the reduction is really needed..

One lift kit and my 2016 will fit 35" rubber...4.88 with ARB front and rear...

Will be adding lift kit, front 2" reciever, 100 gallon aux tank in bed and a "Lock and Roll" offroad hitch to it this summer.  There are hundreds if not thousands of power lines and cut( gas/oil) right aways up in northern Ontario...

P.S. 
Is it ok to stop by the shop and talk to you about ideas?  I know you are very busy...

By the way you and I bought the last two 2016 trucks out of the texas plant...both custom orders :yesnod:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Redbeard1 on Feb 19, 2017, 06:31:43 PM
Updates???
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 02, 2017, 10:53:07 PM
Hello Crawler Land!

Ohhhhhhhhhh man. What. A. Year. Whew. I am sorry to say that I was only able to barely touch the Tacoma last year. The timing from the 261 day delay was horrible and I didn't line things up as quickly as I should have in preparation for the busy season. I took the Tacoma out on two trails and then the wheel'n, marketing, event sponsorship season kicked into high gear and I was too busy to work on it. Many more reasons preventing progress on the Tacoma such as a lot of restructuring here at MC and my wife and I purchasing our very first house!

Over the last month I've been making some good progress preparing for this year's wheel'n season so let's get this thread back up to speed!!

April 28 & 29, 2016: New Grille
My 1987 MR2 has a white-black Panda theme which I like so the Chrome TRD Sport grille has gotta go :D

I ordered a SR5 grille but when it showed up I discovered it had a grey shade to it...

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So I did some quick research and realized I should have ordered the "SR" grill. The next day I picked that up for comparison and was happy with it. Returned the SR5 grille.

SR left -- SR5 right

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 02, 2017, 10:53:40 PM
After work I swapped out the grille. Wow that was so easy. It is readily evident compared to my Hilux how things are better designed for mass-production.

Old grille off

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New SR grille on

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I like this much better :D

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Lastly, not sure if I covered this, but I set-up my background image as a pic from Zion National Park

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 02, 2017, 10:53:54 PM
April 30, 2016: TLCA's Annual Bakersfield Land Cruiser Swap Meet

Broke the truck's event cherry at the Toyota Land Cruiser Association's Annual Bakersfield Swap Meet

Leaving Fresno. Love the LED driving lights. They dim quite a lot once the headlights are turned on. I plan to override this feature.

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At the Land Cruiser event in Bakersfield:

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We had the Tacoma parked next to our booth featuring our newly updated MC11 Tacoma/FJ Cruiser Dual Case Unit

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As you can see this one is for the 1GR-FE ("TACO BOX 4.0"). This should be very close to what will be installed in the new Tacoma, minus the nifty cutaway ;)

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Here is the Tacoma with Kay Spector, the widow of Marv Spector, who is essentially the Marlin of the Land Cruiser World (see our Marv Spector Tribute Album here (https://www.marlincrawler.com/gallery/2014/may/marv-spectors-memorial)).

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From left to right: Marlin, Kay, Christine, Myself
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 02, 2017, 10:54:19 PM
April 30, 2016 (continued): Road Trip to Los Angeles

After the event my wife and I continued south to Los Angeles to pick up some Supercharger parts for my MR2. We've hit 3,000 miles in only ten days!

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Random lunch-stop pic

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Near Santa Monica, CA

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Finally back home. I have no other 6cyl truck experience but the fuel mileage through two mtn ranges combined with the idiot drivers who make up the notorious LA traffic was decent:

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Edit: fixed incorrect picture order
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 02, 2017, 10:54:32 PM
May 2, 2016: Toyota Floor Mats and Door Sill Protectors

Two days later I installed Toyota floor mats and door sill protectors, items which were on my original "Build Sheet" from August 2015 but were long since removed due to the enormous hassle in convincing Toyota to build this truck.

All-weather Toyota floor mats. Very nice quality here.

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...and the Door Sill Protectors. It was very straight-forward. Just clean the sills and install.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 02, 2017, 10:54:48 PM
May 3-8, 2016: Toyota Land Cruiser Association's Annual Cruise Moab

The very next day I left for Moab UT for the 2016 Cruise Moab event!!

This is a four-day official TLCA event, and the largest annual Toyota-specific event at Moab.

For the past two years I've held a "Cruise Moab Live" thread coverage on our forum...

Cruise Moab Live (2015) (https://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98844) Drove my '81 Hilux there & back
Cruise Moab Live (2016) (https://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100463) Took the Taco!

...wherein I covered most of the event concerning the Tacoma in the above 2016 Live Thread but I'd like to recap here too. The event was great. I'd say a slightly larger turn-out than 2015.

Parked in Mesquite, Nevada
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Spotted another white TRD Sport!! We both gave each other a big thumbs up! Too cool!

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The Tacoma in the company of an absolute legend

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Misc vanity shots

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Made it safely to Moab, and now the Tacoma is in the prescence of actual, real, proper, Toyota trucks :D I mean, just look at that Turbo diesel 70-series Land Cruiser parked next to me!! SWOON! While Toyota of USA is braging about their "high strength steal frames" the rest of the world gets live-axle Turbocharged Diesel trucks with thicker, full-boxed frames. It's no secret that I'm in love with the Tacoma, I just wish Toyota of USA would offer more options.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 02, 2017, 10:54:58 PM
Outside Tech Inspection my Tacoma got to meet All Pro's Black Betty. I am a live axle front suspension guy thru-and-thru; I'm starting to realize it will be painful to keep mine IFS. Hoping to resist the urge for a while-

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Check out Black Betty's SEXY Marlin Crawler Dual Ultimate TacoBox Supreme :D This setup results in nearly a 250:1 Crawl Ratio

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Later that night in the city I spotted a TRD Off Road! I'm still getting excited whenever I see another 3rd gen ;)

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 02, 2017, 10:55:12 PM
May 5, 2016: Tacoma does it's first trail!

Our group ran both Poison Spider Mesa and Hell's Revenge. Beings as I cannot take a stock Tacoma there, I solo-ran an easy trail I'd never done before called Chicken Corners. I left base camp and stopped off at the City Market for supplies. When I came back out to the Tacoma, I go to open the door and hear a faint sound of something dropping to the pavement. I look around and find this in front of the driver's front tire:
   
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Ummm. Wat? What in the.... Suddenly plastic is self-removing from the Tacoma. I look everywhere up in the wheel well and couldn't find where this could have come from. Maybe it was a temporary part used during assembly that a Texan forgot to remove...?

I headed south-west and finally made it to the trail. The guide book wasn't kidding: It was easy. A Subaru could make it through most of it. Nevertheless it provided some good fun and good pictures :D

Wooohoooo! My first time airing down! Having these fancy tire pressure sensors will be interesting once beadlocks go on and I resume airing down to 5 PSI.

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There were many by-passes that looked like this...

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...so of course I had to try them all. :D

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Already dragging the rear tow hitch LOL

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Backing down I incurred my first "trail damage"

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So off came the front valance! Goooooood riddance

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 02, 2017, 10:58:15 PM
May 5, 2016: Tacoma does it's first trail! (continued)

Don't mean to drag this out -- I'll just start posting select pics

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Following the Colorado River

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Didn't even find large enough ledges to break traction.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 02, 2017, 11:00:56 PM
May 5, 2016: Tacoma does it's first trail! (continued)

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I can see this sat nav is going to be much fun

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Got the tires to chirp a little here lol
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 02, 2017, 11:06:42 PM
May 5, 2016: Tacoma does it's first trail! (continued)

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I was wondering about the ABS system... The ABS light is always off, even in low range. How do I know if the system is deactivated? Maybe I'll hit a rock at 2 MPH and get a nice air bag to the face. Also what about 4WD high range -- as I'll be in 4WD high range most of the time once the Crawler goes in. I should probably pull out the unopened owners manual and do some reading!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 02, 2017, 11:11:15 PM
May 5, 2016: Tacoma does it's first trail! (continued)

Nice vistas out here-

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That is a sharp drop-off to the left

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Random pic from the driver's seat. That fake hood scoop takes up precious viewing real estate.

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Finally got the Taco dirty :shades:

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 02, 2017, 11:15:05 PM
May 5, 2016: Tacoma does it's first trail! (continued)

I returned to main camp to get our booth setup for the annual Vendor Night

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The MC booth was humming all night

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The Taco lurks in the back while Marlin does what he does best!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 02, 2017, 11:21:11 PM
May 5, 2016: Cruise Moab 2016 (continued)

I don't know if I realized it but the hood on the new Tacoma doesn't open so much compared to the older trucks

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The next day I stayed in camp and caught up with work and marketing. The Tacoma can't even dream about doing Hell's Revenge at this stage. Day went by pretty quick, after which we enjoyed the awesome dinner and huge Cruise Moab Raffle.

I then got up early Saturday morning to do a one-shot solo day trip back to the west coast.

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Letting the Taco warm up @ 3:30am

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Hit my first icy conditions. Truck felt good. I downshifted and intentionally laid down some torque and the traction control kicks in pretty quick. Very cool

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 02, 2017, 11:26:41 PM
May 5, 2016: Cruise Moab 2016 (continued)

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Tacoma + Open Road = Driving Bliss

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Maintenance lamp has turned on in only 18 days! This truck must be a defect or something :hahaha:

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Made it back home safely with daylight to spare! (Thank you time zone change :P)

Averaging nearly 300 miles a day for over half a month :o

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 79coyotefrg on May 03, 2017, 02:14:02 AM
May 5, 2016: Cruise Moab 2016 (continued)

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Tacoma + Open Road = Driving Bliss

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Maintenance lamp has turned on in only 18 days! This truck must be a defect or something :hahaha:

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Made it back home safely with daylight to spare! (Thank you time zone change :P)

Averaging nearly 300 miles a day for over half a month :o

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that maintenance light should say "Taco box required"
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on May 03, 2017, 09:35:40 AM
:popcorn: chop into it already!!! SAS!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Toyotadon on May 03, 2017, 10:13:36 AM
May 5, 2016: Tacoma does it's first trail!

... When I came back out to the Tacoma, I go to open the door and hear a faint sound of something dropping to the pavement. I look around and find this in front of the driver's front tire:
   
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Ummm. Wat? What in the.... Suddenly plastic is self-removing from the Tacoma. I look everywhere up in the wheel well and couldn't find where this could have come from. Maybe it was a temporary part used during assembly that a Texan forgot to remove...?

Backing down I incurred my first "trail damage"

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So off came the front valance! Goooooood riddance

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Did you ever figure out where that clip came from?

It is sort of a redundant retainer for panels that clip into the bumper.  That one might have even been from the valance that you later removed.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on May 03, 2017, 03:17:16 PM
Where's the missing YEAR?


 :dunno:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Toyotadon on May 04, 2017, 09:58:39 AM
Yeah, he hasn't said what he's doing this weekend yet.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Toyotadon on May 09, 2017, 04:40:48 PM
Umm, you've been spotted...

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on May 10, 2017, 12:34:26 PM
Where's the missing YEAR?


 :dunno:


The heck with the year....where is my crawler for my 2016.. :dunno: :headscratch:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 10, 2017, 02:14:50 PM
Did you ever figure out where that clip came from?

It is sort of a redundant retainer for panels that clip into the bumper.  That one might have even been from the valance that you later removed.
Never did. I looked on another 2016 Access Cab and did not see any blue clips. I think you're right, that it was some retainer only used during assembly.

:popcorn: chop into it already!!! SAS!
Please don't tempt me! :qtip: I plan to appeal to the Tacoma masses. Other than the manual transmission, which was required by law of my universe, showing what is possible from actual low gearing more than proves the Crawler's worth. Maybe one day I'll SAS it. But to keep the truck IFS and take it where SFA trucks go because of the Marlin Crawler will show to the average consumer that you don't have to get a SAS in order to get out and wheel amazing trails.

Yeah, he hasn't said what he's doing this weekend yet.
Hopefully I'll get to that soon :)

Umm, you've been spotted...
What? That's not mine. I have a double cab.

Regards,
BigMike
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on May 10, 2017, 02:53:07 PM
Never did. I looked on another 2016 Access Cab and did not see any blue clips. I think you're right, that it was some retainer only used during assembly.
Please don't tempt me! :qtip: I plan to appeal to the Tacoma masses. Other than the manual transmission, which was required by law of my universe, showing what is possible from actual low gearing more than proves the Crawler's worth. Maybe one day I'll SAS it. But to keep the truck IFS and take it where SFA trucks go because of the Marlin Crawler will show to the average consumer that you don't have to get a SAS in order to get out and wheel amazing trails.
Hopefully I'll get to that soon :)
What? That's not mine. I have a double cab.

Regards,
BigMike

I think you guys should produce a Long Travel system. "Total Chaos" style comes to mind. You MC guys are legends and im glad ive been apart of the "online" Community.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on May 12, 2017, 07:46:48 PM
What? That's not mine. I have a double cab.
Regards,
BigMike

No you have a white ACCESS CAB with the long bed. I HAVE the Double cab with the short bed.

Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 17, 2017, 08:23:16 AM
June 3, 2016: Bald Mountain

A few weeks later I slipped away and did a quick run up to our local Bald Mountain trail with "TURBO" Tim. Bald Mtn is a proper trail that provides a great overview of our popular High Sierra Nevada wheel'n: Large exposed granite, tight tree squeezes, steep and sharp climbs and descents, loose rocky sections, and a few high speed sections. It is our only trail (out of a twelve trail network) that is traditionally open year-round and also the only trail without any lakes.

One caveat with this trail is that it lacks gatekeepers from either entrance and all major obstacles may be bypassed. For these reasons it is common to find vehicles that otherwise wouldn't have any business being up there, such as Bronco-IIs, Blazers, Rangers, Fronteirs, and so on. It also means we see a few Tacomas with lightbars, smoked tail lights, and much chrome so it's a good place to do some proving of the new Tacoma :D

Here I am next to our newly updated Trail Condition Bulletin Board. Google Street view of location: https://goo.gl/maps/vwhvFobkjVw

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Bald Mtn trail head

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Stopped to air down

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I'm love'n this live tire pressure monitor. "The future"

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 17, 2017, 08:24:15 AM
Starting out strong with some "mad flex"

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Our beautiful central California granite

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The visability out of this thing is horrendous

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My first trail glamor shot!

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Made it up a descent crossed-up section without the "Auto-LSD" engaging but with a lottttttt of clutch slipping.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 17, 2017, 08:25:17 AM
June 3, 2016: Bald Mountain (continued)

At this point I had encountered my first two annoying characteristic of the new Tacoma.

Old School Rock Crawler's Off-road Impressions I

Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 17, 2017, 08:25:57 AM
I've always wanted an XtraCab, aka Access Cab. The stock ground clearance is pretty sad...

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...especially the horrendous design of the exhaust crossover. What was Toyota thinking here? The exhaust pipe is lower than the cross-member. It will, at least however, not be in the way of our Dual Case products which is nice but definitely I'll have to improve this.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 17, 2017, 08:26:21 AM
June 3, 2016: Bald Mountain (continued)

At the base of Hollywood Hill

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Up the approach to Hollywood Hill

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High-centered again hahaha

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The view up Hollywood!

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I took the cheater-line off to the left

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It gets steeper and steeper

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Shot from the cab

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 17, 2017, 08:27:51 AM
Old School Rock Crawler's Off-road Impressions II


Stopped on the upper side of Hollywood Hill

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Fun for everyone except the clutch :D

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 17, 2017, 08:37:53 AM
June 3, 2016: Bald Mountain (continued)

Old School Rock Crawler's Off-road Impressions III


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Great day for some wheel'n!

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Elevation here is about 6,500 feet.

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Continuing up towards Bald Mountain

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 17, 2017, 08:38:52 AM
Finally at the top! Elevation 7,838 ft.

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Overlooking Shaver Lake, CA

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 17, 2017, 08:39:14 AM
June 3, 2016: Bald Mountain (continued)

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And that's it for the Tacoma's first time at Bald! The northern end of the trail is pretty dang easy and we skipped all the stuff the Taco couldn't do and bugged out.

One last pic after airing back up and ready to return home.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 17, 2017, 08:42:08 AM
We took some misc videos which I turned into a quick & dirty compilation with no music. It's nothing special. I remember my first time wheeling my 1981 Hilux (took it up Claw Hammer) and being crazy nervous to not even get a single scratch. I was overly cautious here too haha Hope you enjoy!


At the 4:03 min mark I wanted to try out this "Auto LSD" feature so I got the Taco crossed-up. Incoming long rant.

I have much to complain about, more than what I'll share here, but before I explain I have to acknowledge the fact that the system works. If you are stuck it has the "potential" to get through. There is no comparison to say a 20-yr old stock Toyota pickup: Once you got stuck, that was it. You'd need to get pulled out. But at least the Tacoma has the "ability" to get through such a scenario as shown in the video.

Now, the bad, no very bad thing here is that the Auto LSD requires a lot of throttle for it to work and this is teaching the next generation of off-roaders a very bad habit.

Quick desc of the system: I've not read any manual on the subject, but as I understand it the truck is utilizing its ABS wheel speed sensors to detect a large enough tire rotation differential across each axle and applying the brakes only for that single faster rotating tire in an increasing manner until the force across the differential equalizes and the two tires have the same angular velocity. Side note: Only Automatics have CRAWL Control.

Here is the issue with this in more detail than what's probably necessary:
As an experienced Rock Crawler since the same day the hobby was created 23 years ago, my first instinct when I lose traction is to lift. You lift based on physics due to the fact that static friction has a higher coefficient of friction than kinetic friction. The goal should be to allow the tires to work and find traction, aka finesse it. We see many inexperienced wheelers do the opposite and get egged-on by their buddies yelling "GET IT! GET IT!" which leads to skinny pedal abuse, a lot of bouncing, and ultimately broken parts. I am not so thick-skulled to admit there are times when you need momentum, but this should only be as a last resort option and even still you only need to feel the bounce once or twice to know the severity of how stuck you are. Be a man by either stacking rocks or asking a Jeep for a tug. Seriously. Show some humility & make some new friends. That is certainly better than breaking down in the middle of the trail holding up traffic causing everyone to get to camp after dark.

Now fast forward to your truck with 37" or larger tires aired down to 6 PSI or lower. This would be your seven-step program to a broken axle:
1. When you get stuck the first thing you do is apply throttle (don't ever do this)
2. The truck starts bouncing as tires with traction bite and quickly release due to insufficient tractive force
3. As each tire loses traction and releases, it becomes airborne for a split second with minimal resistance, and as such quickly accelerates since you're still on the gas
4. The acceleration of gravity pulls your truck back down slamming it into the ground with the full force of your trucks mass (Newton's second law!)
5. Your foot is still on the gas building potential energy in the flywheel and 50+ pound accelerating tires which puts an enormous sudden load on your drivetrain (shock load)
6. Now your tire has a higher tractive force due to the increased pressure exerted down by gravity so it bites harder and beings your tire is aired down so low "because Rock Crawler", it has become a large bouncy ball causing more rebound each time it's pulled back to the ground
7. Keeping your foot buried in the throttle, repeat the above over and over allowing the shock load to increase with each successively larger bounce until finally you break an axle

This is what Toyota is teaching people to do with this fancy "Auto LSD" system. Sure, stock axles are sufficient to be bouncing stock tires that cannot be aired down too low (without fear of blowing a bead) and have low bite/traction, but this system without question teaches Tacoma owners bad habits.

Here is literally what happened to me the first time I experienced the Tacoma's Auto LSD:
1. I'm trying to get through a trail section when suddenly I lose forward momentum
2. I let off the throttle to allow the tires to look for and find traction
3. Slipping the clutch to go as slow as I can and still can't find traction
4. Slowly work the wheel right, then left, then back right, then back left. Nothing

This is normally when you should back-up for a better line, or ask for a spot, or get out to see whats going on and throw some rocks, etc

5. Wanting to see the Auto LSD in action, I decide to stay on the bad line and build up some wheel speed for the computer
6. I apply more and more throttle
7. The truck starts bouncing
8. Instinctively I immediately let off the throttle to finesse it and let the tires do the work
9. Whoops, now the computer doesn't see a sufficient tire speed differential and auto-LSD does not activate

10. Repeat steps 5-9 each time trying to go deeper and deeper into the throttle while trying to suppress years and years of off-road know-how
11. Finally at 3,500 RPM in 1st gear the "Auto LSD" light begins to flash followed by a nasty grinding sound (brakes being operated by the computer)
12. Instinctively I immediately let off the throttle because something doesn't sound right. Lol Start all over again at Step 5

The video shows my second take through that section with the Auto LSD. The lurching proves the mental battle between my senses and my right calf muscle.

BigMike
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on May 17, 2017, 10:07:09 AM
Sounds like that warranty wont mature before you modify that thing :popcorn:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on May 17, 2017, 02:09:33 PM
June 3, 2016: Bald Mountain (continued)

At this point I had encountered my first two annoying characteristic of the new Tacoma.

Old School Rock Crawler's Off-road Impressions I

  • The V6 flywheel must weigh a full metric ton. If you try jam'n through the gears in low range the RPMs don't fall at nearly a quick enough rate. I have no doubt this was done for better fuel economy as well as less apparent mistakes to novice gear jammers. I already have a simple solution for this in my mind.
Does the engine have a throttle cable/linkage or is it drive-by-wire (ECU controlled)   ?

If it's drive-by-wire, you're screwed; as the computer is dropping the revs slowly for emission reasons.     (My sister's Saturn VUE manual tranny did that and it drove me nuts....)


Auto-LSD:    Sounds like you need 4 switches (one for each wheel) to manually tell the computer to apply the brakes for a specific wheel....[/list]
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: TRevv on May 17, 2017, 03:22:01 PM
I am a live axle front suspension guy thru-and-thru; I'm starting to realize it will be painful to keep mine IFS. Hoping to resist the urge for a while-

Don't resist it mike. You just gotta SAC up.  :cheese:  Straight Axle Conversion or bust!!!  :ha_ha:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 300k on May 17, 2017, 03:59:51 PM
Yeah SAS her... I don't know what kinda bogus you're trying to pull by saying "I plan to appeal to the Tacoma masses.", but the masses don't wanna see any stinkin control arms in the front of that truck! :gap:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on May 17, 2017, 06:55:13 PM
Torsen diffs would work great with the Auto LSD.  Humvees use the same traction control system but have Torsen Diffs NOT LSD Diffs. 


By the way my 2016 TRD sport does Not have hill asst start. It's all heel and toe or gentle use of the hand brake...which applies brakez on  both rear wheels .

Can you measure from the ground to the bottom of your rocks for me please.. Your truck looks way shorter then mine.  I am still at stock height but have lots of ground clearance.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: H8PVMNT on May 18, 2017, 08:33:55 AM
Yeah SAS her... I don't know what kinda bogus you're trying to pull by saying "I plan to appeal to the Tacoma masses.", but the masses don't wanna see any stinkin control arms in the front of that truck! :gap:

Yes we don't need another all pro thing happening.  Do a really well thought out SAS.  Leaf springs if at all possible.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Toyotadon on May 18, 2017, 09:10:51 AM

Does the engine have a throttle cable/linkage or is it drive-by-wire (ECU controlled)   ?

If it's drive-by-wire, you're screwed; as the computer is dropping the revs slowly for emission reasons.     (My sister's Saturn VUE manual tranny did that and it drove me nuts....)

It is drive-by-wire, and you are right that this is what's keeping the RPM up.  It would probably require a software revision to "correct" that.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 18, 2017, 10:00:18 AM
If it's drive-by-wire, you're screwed; as the computer is dropping the revs slowly for emission reasons.
It is drive-by-wire, and you are right that this is what's keeping the RPM up.  It would probably require a software revision to "correct" that.
Yeah, it looks like this is the issue, as I was informed about it on another site. As for the software revision, I am currently working on something of that nature and if successful then I will see about eliminating it.

Sounds like you need 4 switches (one for each wheel) to manually tell the computer to apply the brakes for a specific wheel....
I am already working on something similar to add a very special functionality that I have on my 1981 Hilux, only this time it will certainly without question be far better with the Tacoma.

the masses don't wanna see any stinkin control arms in the front of that truck!
I'm sorry to tell you this but the sad reality is that they actually do. Consider an image search for "lifted Tacoma", https://duckduckgo.com/?q=lifted+Tacoma&t=hb&iax=1&ia=images (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=lifted+Tacoma&t=hb&iax=1&ia=images). I scrolled for a while and couldn't even find a SAS Tacoma.

Look, I'm with you and I'm also upset that Toyota does not equip or even offer as an option a live front axle for the Tacoma. But we must concede to the clear facts that Toyota is the #1 automobile manufacture in the world (or did VW finally surpass them?) and the Tacoma is by a run-away margin the #1 most sold compact pickup in the US of A for a reason. To put things into perspective, after the 1st quarter of 3rd gen Tacoma sales, Toyota sold more Tacoma's than Colorado's, Canyon's and Frontier's COMBINED. It is insane. Moreover, according to KBB, the top 10 automobiles for best resale value ranks the FJ Cruiser as #1 (now discontinued), the Tacoma as #2, and the 4Runner as #3. What do all three have in common? You guessed it, independent front suspension. Despite how much we like to dislike IFS, we have to recognize that Toyota has the best marketing analysis and has proved the demand to be IFS over live axle in the U.S. of A. Don't blame Toyota. Blame consumers, of which now I'm part responsible. I've said it before and it's prudent to repeat here: The day the 70-series Land Cruiser is offered in the U.S. of A. will be the same day I sell this Tacoma.

By the way my 2016 TRD sport does Not have hill asst start.
Hmmmm? Mine certainly does. Yours is a stick shift, right? It doesn't need much of a hill at all; I can demonstrate it on the gentle slope of our Marlin Crawler parking lot.

Can you measure from the ground to the bottom of your rocks for me please.. Your truck looks way shorter then mine.  I am still at stock height but have lots of ground clearance.
I can't so much do this anymore, number one because the truck isn't at stock height any longer (more on this sooner), and it's also currently not in my possession (more on this soon). :circle:

Regards,
BigMike
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: fireitup on May 18, 2017, 11:14:41 AM
The day the 70-series Land Cruiser is offered in the U.S. of A. will be the same day I sell this Tacoma.

That day will be a glorious day.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 300k on May 18, 2017, 11:48:00 AM
I'm sorry to tell you this but the sad reality is that they actually do. Consider an image search for "lifted Tacoma", https://duckduckgo.com/?q=lifted+Tacoma&t=hb&iax=1&ia=images (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=lifted+Tacoma&t=hb&iax=1&ia=images). I scrolled for a while and couldn't even find a SAS Tacoma.

Look, I'm with you and I'm also upset that Toyota does not equip or even offer as an option a live front axle for the Tacoma. But we must concede to the clear facts that Toyota is the #1 automobile manufacture in the world (or did VW finally surpass them?) and the Tacoma is by a run-away margin the #1 most sold compact pickup in the US of A for a reason. To put things into perspective, after the 1st quarter of 3rd gen Tacoma sales, Toyota sold more Tacoma's than Colorado's, Canyon's and Frontier's COMBINED. It is insane. Moreover, according to KBB, the top 10 automobiles for best resale value ranks the FJ Cruiser as #1 (now discontinued), the Tacoma as #2, and the 4Runner as #3. What do all three have in common? You guessed it, independent front suspension. Despite how much we like to dislike IFS, we have to recognize that Toyota has the best marketing analysis and has proved the demand to be IFS over live axle in the U.S. of A. Don't blame Toyota. Blame consumers, of which now I'm part responsible. I've said it before and it's prudent to repeat here: The day the 70-series Land Cruiser is offered in the U.S. of A. will be the same day I sell this Tacoma.


Regards,
BigMike

All the trucks on that page are fancy steam rollers made to compact the pavement. search up "Tacoma Crawler" and you'll return to the incredible land of solid axles and Marlin stickers. I'm all for whatever you do with this truck, it's obviously not my truck to modify. Maybe SAS'd trucks are becoming old and IFS trucks that crawl will be the new thing? Either way, an IFS 2016 Tacoma that competes on the rubicon without a ton of fab work or a SAS'd 2016 tacoma, you're going to break new ground and it's gonna be sweet.

and PS, your stock tacoma has done harder wheeling than my 84 pickup. I'm officially a chump.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: TRevv on May 18, 2017, 12:03:17 PM
It is true IFS has developed far beyond the old IFS systems we love to cut off trucks (ie 86 through the nineties) and it is possible to build an amazing IFS crawler ( just look at the ultra 4 world) but the love for a live axle is still strong.  so its a hard decesion
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on May 18, 2017, 01:18:10 PM
Ok mike if you can't measure the height. Whar tire package ( size ) came on your truck?
I fit 33's at stock height.  2 to 3 inches of lift is way more then I will need to clear 35's.  Still need to regear but then the ARB Lockers come with the new diffs.

You are making a rock crawler, but I need an Oberland style truck.

The one thing we both want is the crawler box.   
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Brendan on May 18, 2017, 02:09:56 PM
 I think your decision to keep it IFS is a bold move. Converting it to SAS is the easy cut and run method.  Proving you can gracefully do everything you did before with IFS is the real challenge.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 18, 2017, 05:33:27 PM
That day will be a glorious day.
Cheers to that, friend :beerchug: :beer:

Shoutout to 46&2:
Guide to Foreign (Non-USA) Model Toyotas (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=42214)
Toyota: Bring the 70 Series Land Cruiser and Diesels to the USA (https://www.facebook.com/ToyotaLandCruiserUSA/) (Facebook)

All the trucks on that page are fancy steam rollers made to compact the pavement.
Because the Tacoma is not a hardcore off-road truck (read: it has IFS), this specifically is it's de facto modus operandi.

I'd like to stop and express how we feel part responsible for this. As I posted on page one, one reason I got this Tacoma is to prove to the world that Marlin Crawler isn't just a company for the older pickup market. We invented the Tacoma Dual Case setup back in 2001 but none here have ever wheeled a Tacoma. And when I sit back and look at the timeline, I get hit right in the face. Consider the following:
- Marlin starts Marlin Crawler in April of 1994. That same year the first gen Tacoma is introduced at the North American International Auto Show.
- I build my 1981 Hilux from July of 2004. That same year the second gen Tacoma is introduced at the North American International Auto Show.

In all reality, Marlin should have switched to a Tacoma straight away and I should have done what I'm doing here and built the first-ever 2nd gen Tacoma Rock Crawler instead of a 1st gen Hilux. We both had pinnacle opportunities to take the Tacoma where we've taken the Hilux. Naturally, we don't live in the past and have no regrets, but it is true that we are lesser known to the Tacoma crowd than the Hilux crowd so I gotta get cook'n with my new Taco! :yupyup:

Either way, an IFS 2016 Tacoma that competes on the rubicon without a ton of fab work .... [is] going to break new ground and it's gonna be sweet.
Thanks man, that's the plan and I can tell you with full confidence that this summer 2017 is gonna be great!

Ok mike if you can't measure the height. Whar tire package ( size ) came on your truck?
I fit 33's at stock height.  2 to 3 inches of lift is way more then I will need to clear 35's.  Still need to regear but then the ARB Lockers come with the new diffs.

My stock tires are 265/65R17 which according to a random online calculator is equal to a 30.6" x 10.43".

I can in no way fit 33's at stock height. Wow my truck must be much lower than yours. While looking through my photos, I remembered I do have the following height measurements:

(Measurements in inches up fron the ground. D = Driver's side, P = Passenger's side)


I think your decision to keep it IFS is a bold move. Converting it to SAS is the easy cut and run method.  Proving you can gracefully do everything you did before with IFS is the real challenge.
Bingo.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 18, 2017, 05:36:50 PM
June 9, 2016: Comradery Continues

I came out from a hardware store and this white 3rd gen had parked next to me. I was pretty excited; There was plenty of other parking this guy could have used. This sort of stuff is still exciting me because my daily driver is a Supercharged MR2, which is one of the least sold Toyota cars in history so I get crazy-excited whenever I see someone driving the same vehicle as me.

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That weekend a local customer and long time family friend parked next to my Taco at church. Was cool to see em side-by-side

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This 4Runner has a 3.4-liter Tacoma V6 conversion with a Dual Ultimate Marlin Crawler (217:1 final drive / Crawl Ratio).

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June 16, 2016: Paint issue

The next week I found paint wearing off on the corner of my bed. What in the world--I don't ever remember anything rubbing here and I've yet to drive with the tailgate down. The paint on the tailgate is immaculate. It's almost like they didn't paint it correctly and a trip or two through a car wash was enough for it to rub off?? The other side is perfect.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 18, 2017, 05:39:45 PM
At this point guys I have to share the sad news that before I knew it the summer had taken off and got away from me. My wife and I celebrated our 10 yr anniversary in Hawaii, I returned to southern Japan to visit relatives for the first time since the largest earthquake disaster in recorded Kyuushuu history (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Kumamoto_earthquakes), I upgraded the entire content management system (backend) of our Marlin Crawler website (replacing the prior system I built 8 yrs ago), restructured both our sales and warehouse crews, and my wife and I started the process of purchasing our first house.

As for community outreach, between May and October Marlin Crawler both sponsored and attended 32 different 4WD events, Forest Service CPR/chainsaw classes/trail work parties, and led three Adopt-A-Highway clean-ups. Members of 11 different 4WD clubs, it's no secret as to how serious we consider community involvement and it takes time to get things setup/prepared. This is a core, fundamental difference that separates Marlin Crawler from other companies in that this was first a hobby that grew into a company; Supporting the community is where our heart is.

I was so busy that other than the Moab trip I posted earlier, I only went to one other event the remainder of 2016: Our 15th annual Marlin Crawler Round-Up at the Rubicon........in my 1981 Hilux......where we eclipsed the $100,000 dollar mark in total donations to the Rubicon Trail(!).

I went from a "3rd Gen Tacoma forum pro-lurcher" to a complete off-site ghost. But at least I made our Round-Up, which since 2004 my Hilux has never missed a single one. After I got home I remember telling the truck how this will be her last Rubicon trip for a while...

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I actually almost missed this one because I couldn't get my internal/company work done until Saturday morning the day of the event. I drove straight up to Rubicon, wheeled in solo, made it to the Springs Campground in time to oversee the dinner & raffle, and returned home the next day.

Check out this 35-year old Toyota Rock Crawler with 19 times more torque than a 2016 V10 Dodge Viper and still get'n it done overloaded up Cadillac Hill in the partial wet. :D
"I Love What You Do For Me, Marlin Crawler!" ;)

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Fast forward to November, and with both our annual Round-Up event (photo gallery (https://www.marlincrawler.com/gallery/2016/sep/2016-marlin-crawler-round)) and the October Off-Road Expo (photo gallery (https://www.marlincrawler.com/gallery/2016/oct/2016-pamona-road-expo)) out of the way, it was time to finally get crack'n on the Tacoma!!!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on May 19, 2017, 09:10:24 AM
You are one busy guy!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on May 19, 2017, 05:57:17 PM
My stock tires are 265/65R17 which according to a random online calculator is equal to a 30.6" x 10.43".

I can in no way fit 33's at stock height. Wow my truck must be much lower than yours. While looking through my photos, I remembered I do have the following height measurements:

(Measurements in inches up fron the ground. D = Driver's side, P = Passenger's side)

  • Bottom of door handle: D 42-5/16, P 42-7/16
  • Bottom of front fender @ axle center line: D 34-1/2, P 34-13/16
  • Bottom of rear fender @ axle center line: D 36-1/16, P 36-3/4
  • Bottom ID of trailer hitch: 16-1/8
  • Tailgate bottom of handle: 43-1/8
Bingo.

My truck came with 265/65R17's as well but there is lots of room to run my 265/75R17 Muds( they are 32.6"X10.5).  I was wondering if you had some how gotten a 245/65R/17 wheel package, but that would have only been 1"( 1/2" per side ) difference.

I will get all the same measurements from my truck.  it just seems to sit higher off the tires, and off the ground. 
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on May 21, 2017, 02:40:23 PM
I can in no way fit 33's at stock height. Wow my truck must be much lower than yours. While looking through my photos, I remembered I do have the following height measurements:

(Measurements in inches up fron the ground. D = Driver's side, P = Passenger's side)

  • Bottom of door handle: D 42-5/16, P 42-7/16
  • Bottom of front fender @ axle center line: D 34-1/2, P 34-13/16
  • Bottom of rear fender @ axle center line: D 36-1/16, P 36-3/4
  • Bottom ID of trailer hitch: 16-1/8
  • Tailgate bottom of handle: 43-1/8
Bingo.

OK got some measurements from my truck today...did the fender ones and the trailer hitch. I don't think the door handles make a difference.

so here there are:
                               Bottom of Front Fender @ Axle Center line: D (89cm) 35.03", P(90cm) 35.43"
                               Bottom of rear Fender @ Axle Center Line : D (95.5cm) 37.59", P (96cm) 37.79"
                               Bottom ID of Trailer Hitch                                : (44cm) 17.32"

I don't see any real difference :dunno: Yours just looks "short".  You removed your Air Dam right?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: R.DesJardin on May 22, 2017, 03:13:45 PM
IFS got a bad rap I think mostly because of the smaller 7.5 diff they used and IFS was released in the middle of the mega-lift 80's era, no I don't miss that, yes I lived through it, no I was not in a diaper I was driving an IFS truck. Neither the stock solid axle or IFS shafts are good, why do you think they make upgrades. Axles shafts can be beefed up, that already has been proven with some of the IFS Ultra4 cars out there. I so want to do a serious IFS build up, or should I say finish the one I started several years ago. Carry on Mike and enjoy.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 22, 2017, 08:53:44 PM
Yours just looks "short".  You removed your Air Dam right?
Yes, removed the air dam. Your measurements are almost 1" higher than mine so I guess mine is just sitting lower. I have been next to a stock TRD Off Road and it is definitely higher than my TRD Sport.

IFS got a bad rap I think mostly because of the smaller 7.5 diff they used and IFS was released in the middle of the mega-lift 80's era
Agree with everything you said. I am looking forward to seeing how far I can go down this IFS rabbit hole :D
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 22, 2017, 08:54:41 PM
I forgot to mention on May 25, 2016 I took my Tacoma in to a local dealer for it's first check-up (hit 5K miles on my way back from Moab, see previous page) and had a horrible experience. I am done with dealer service. The jerks removed items from my center console and left them on the passenger's seat (what in the hell were they doing in there?), left my AC on full blast (I rarely use AC), changed my radio station and left the volume up, didn't move my seat back, rear-view mirror was pointing up at the headliner, the floormat's yellow safety warning tag that is a mile long was unraveled (I had it neatly tucked under the mat), and they left my Qi charger on (I don't have a Qi-device). To top it off, they lowered my tire pressure from my setting of 40 PSI (mfg max rating is 44) to 28 PSI (door sticker says 29) (this is probably federally mandated or something dumb like that).

I've slowly been learning that dealerships are worthless and my standards have been too high for them. I expect them to be Toyota experts (are they not specially trained by Toyota?) and to provide the highest quality of work (do they not charge the highest labor rate?). But that's it, I'm not taking the Tacoma back in. Especially since it is going to be modified, all I need is some inconsiderate dealership junkie to mess around with my gearing and roll the truck in the parking lot. Screw that. And it's not just the Tacoma; Other dealers have done similar things to my wife's 2013 Yaris such as left oil plainly drizzled clear across our plastic engine cover. If you want something done right you'd better do it yourself so from here out I will.

Speakings of which, I don't know if I've shared pics of our 2013 Yaris SE and my 1987 Supercharged MR2 so here come a couple:

We've driven the Yaris all over and it's a fantastic car. Yellowstone, Grand Canyon, Yosemite, etc. Have done a bunch of road trips averaging just over 20K/year.

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I have a long history with this MR2. My father bought it for me my senior year in H.S. with a blown engine for only $300 and a week later I had it running with an engine pulled from the wrecking yard. Have owned this car for 18 yrs and counting, and it has almost 350K miles now. I know this car inside and out, have done a ton of track-specific mods, and currently have it up to 265-HP (166 HP/liter!). It is both quick and fast: As fast as a brand new 5-liter V8 Mustang. I even have my own lil MR2 website: If you're bored check it out: http://bigmike.marlincrawler.com.

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Here was my original "blow it up big-time" plan with this truck:
August
1. Order the Tacoma August 2015

November: "Stage I"
2. As promised by the first dealer, take ownership no later than November (as we know this didn't happen)
3. Install All Pro's upper control arm kit + rear leafs for a 3" lift
4. Install 33" tires
5. Get our new MC11/TacoBox installed (redesigned if necessary) so I'll have the World's First Dual Case 3rd Gen Tacoma
6. Install Rock Sliders

January 2016: Attend basic events
This should be enough to get me through the basic/easy events such as CVC's New Year's snow run, Cal4WD's Winter Fun Festival, be the first and only 3rd gen on display at the King Of The Hammers, Kingsburg snow Poker run, TLCA's Mud-N-Yer-Eye frolic at Hollister, Cal4WD's Molina Ghost Run, our local Fresno 4WD Club's Blue Canyon Poker run, and Cal4WD's Hi Desert Round-Up. (Reality: I didn't get the truck until after most of these events.)

Late May 2016: "Stage II"
7. Upgrade All Pro's basic front kit to their long travel kit
8. Do a ton of fender trimming and install 37" or 39" tires
9. By this time hopefully ARB would have a new rear Air Locker ready and I'd be able to have some actual lockers
10. Come up with something for F & R bumpers, most important being the rear (Still on the fence about what to do for bumpers as nothing on the market has really excited me yet).

June 25, 2016
Be the first 3rd gen Tacoma to conquer the Rubicon trail for TLCA's annual "Rubithon" event!

It's painful to look back as there were many missed opportunities. Time to get this ball roll'n!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 22, 2017, 09:02:36 PM
Nov 1, 2016: The Start of "Stage 1"

On the 1st of Nov I started on what I call "Stage 1". The plan is to start with 33" tires & our Dual Ultimate TacoBox Marlin Crawler.

It was finally feeling like progress when these showed up:

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285 / 70 R17 BFG All-Terrain T/A KO2. According to a random online calculator, they measure 32.7 X 11.2 in inches. Here is what they look like next to my stock 265 / 65 R17 (30.6" x 10.4"):

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 22, 2017, 09:05:06 PM
Nov 1, 2016: The Start of "Stage 1" (continued)

We also had some 35" x 12.5" (proper 35") BFG Mud-Terrains KM2 in stock so whynot

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30.6" vs 32.7" vs 35"

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 22, 2017, 09:06:14 PM
Finally just the 35"

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 22, 2017, 09:07:28 PM
Nov 2, 2016: "Stage 1" - Suspension and Differential Gearing

The next day the Tacoma **finally** made it up on our lift

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on May 23, 2017, 09:02:47 AM
:woohoo: now this is what we came for. GO MIKE!

and yes, that remains true for dealerships, not only toyota ones either. They are not the hype the used to be, and I prefer to everything myself.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: H8PVMNT on May 23, 2017, 09:49:01 AM
Might as well just do Phase 1.5 and make the 35s fit now :).
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: daniresch on May 23, 2017, 12:14:03 PM
I'm hoping to see stage II with long travel and 37-39s  :gap:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 23, 2017, 04:02:44 PM
Nov 2, 2016: "Stage 1" - Differential Gearing

Out came this hunk of junk for regearing!

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Also yanked out this all-new rear diff! This puppy is huge -- Nice work Toyota!

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Despite the fact that things didn't go as planned, it turns out it took more than one year for the first aftermarket gear set to be built. So having waited through the entire year, I was able to get a new R&P gear set from the very first batch of gears from Nitro!

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A few things to note here...

-- Because my truck is a manual, it already came with 4.30:1 gearing (vs 3.901:1 for 6cyl autos). So the drop to 4.88:1, which is a staple Hilux/minitruck gear ratio with history dating back to the late 80s and rice paddy use in Brazil, will only net a 13.5% reduction meaning any tire size larger than 34.7" (30.6" + 13.5%) will cause the truck to become overgeared. There is another common aftermarket Toyota ratio, the 5.29:1, but Nitro has no interest in making this ratio for the 3rd gen. Their reasoning is that anyone who needs that low of gearing would ditch IFS anyway. I agree. Here we have another negative strike against keeping the truck IFS.

-- ARB was behind further, not having a rear air locker available yet. I did get the front installed which had not changed from the 2nd gen Tacoma, but I'll have to wait for a rear locker now. Ohh man. So I guess I wouldn't have been able to do (or would have struggled to do) Rubicon/Fordyce/Hammers/etc even had I been on schedule. Bitter sweet. Installing an ARB later once available wouldn't be the end of the world so I decided to just get this stuff done now to get working on other projects.

Here we have the new Nitro R&P installed and setup using Marlin's industry-leading set-up procedure!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 23, 2017, 04:09:44 PM
Nov 14, 2016: "Stage 1" - All Pro Off Road F&R Suspension

Next was time to get this baby lifted a bit for the 33s. I went with a kit from a company who in my opinion is no longer in business which is a real shame because the original owner was the first to join Marlin in his quest to "get respect for Toyota's" in a world previously dominated by Jeeps, but now he is no longer in business. Shocks are Factory Series Fox Shocks and I'm very hopefully for a better ride than the really tiny Hitachi TRD Sport shocks.

Upper arms and new shocks fitted!!

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Got the rear setup also using a now discontinued rear leaf spring and U-Bolt flip kit.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 23, 2017, 04:17:13 PM
Nov 15, 2016: "Stage 1" - New 33" rubbers!

Off to the tire/alignment shop! The stock wheels will be sufficient for Stage I.

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WOOHOO! Man just driving this thing with even a modest lift already makes me feel 1,000% better. The front shocks came pre-adjusted from All Pro but as you can see they definitely sat too low.

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So we cranked em up a lil and got the truck re-aligned the same day for free (nice)

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Look'n better!

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Ride quality:
So at this point I've only driven the truck around town a bit but WOW it is seriously so much better than stock. Granted, I never had the nice Bilstein you TRD Off Road guys have, but compared to the overly bouncy and under dampened Hitachi shocks this is a night and day difference. The ride quality has been drastically increased. Definitely looking forward to seeing how this does off road!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 23, 2017, 04:18:11 PM
Nov 17, 2016: Convinced my Dentist to get a new Tacoma!

I've got an awesome dentist who is an avid outdoorsman and he was so intrigued by my Epic Journey that after reading this Build Thread he went out and found a new White Double Cab Automatic (lol) SR5 V6.

It was cool showing up to his office with the new lift and tires only after a few days since he bought his. He was crawling all over mine asking 101 questions for what I've got planned for it. Ohh man it's so cool owning a truck that is so new to the world!

Sorry for the overexposed picture, I wanted to get em both in the same shot despite him parked in the shade. My front end could probably still go up a bit more but I do prefer a slight rake when unloaded...

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If I make a sharp and aggressive entrance to a driveway I will have front tire to fender rubbing. I'll have to get this addressed before I go wheel'n. It is contacting the rear leading edge of both front inner wheel wells.

I discovered he has this AWESOME feature that I'm lacking: Rear cargo light. What. The. Heck. Toyota?! I've got a higher grade TRD Sport and yet my center light is only a one piece red unit with no cargo light feature. I'll have to get this factory option installed...

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Random November pic

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 23, 2017, 04:22:36 PM
Dec 7, 2016: Can't believe I never noticed this

The title says it all: I can't believe I never noticed this before. I'm driving to work on a chilly December morning and both mirrors are fogged. I think to myself, if this truck has heated seats then it better have heated mirrors and sure enough I found one of the most obvious buttons for this that I have not noticed before :D I'm still like a kid in a candy store over here!

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Ahh much better

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Jan 22, 2017: Drove up to a snowy Shaver Lake

Marlin and I both missed the Central Valley Crawler's Annual New Year's Day Snow Run so I was itch'n to get back up to the mountains in this thing.

Wife and I finally had some time to run away so we took a quick spin up to Shaver Lake. Nothing special, just mainly stayed on the pavement and enjoyed some quiet time together for a change.

Took a quick stop at Cressman's

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Wife taking some pics of the pretty snow-covered pine trees. I remember noticing that was the first water exposure to the inner door panels.

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Haven't seen Shaver Lake this high in a good five years. I hope we can get out of this 7+ yr long drout!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 300k on May 23, 2017, 04:23:43 PM
Yes yes, keep it coming!

so what are you gonna do with that lift kit once you SAS her? (sorry :gap:)
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on May 23, 2017, 04:30:31 PM
Please show side by side pictures of "old shoes" , "new shoes".......


 :love:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 23, 2017, 04:31:54 PM
Jan 30, 2017: Finally no more hood scoop!

The next week I was leaving a Starbucks when a white TRD Off Road pulls up. I immediately walk over, introduce myself, and ask if the guy is interested in a hood with a fake plastic hood scoop? He got all excited and so did I so I had him meet me back at our shop and we both couldn't have been happier!!

I have to give a shout-out to a member on TacomaWorld by the moniker "bowzerdoo77" who originally contacted me way back in April of last year requesting a hood swap. We tried to meet up once in Barstow, but it didn't work out, and in the end I think I was too busy with other things to follow through and ended up backing out of the exchange. Brody, thanks again for the offer and hope you've found a hood scoop hood by now!

LET'S DO THIS! Death to fake hood scoops that limit overthehood trail visibility!

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The donor (a DoubleCab Automatic of course ::)): Hey Ruben if you're on our forum then thanks for the exchange! :beerchug:

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The patient:

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Hood off! Still have that sweet Moab red dust

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My old hood on Ruben's Tacoma. Man, Ruben was super happy!

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My new hood! YES, now I was super happy!! Haha we were both so impressed with ourselves :D :D

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Interestingly, when performing the swap I noticed his hood was made at the Mexico plant. Well....... my Tacoma was made at the Texas plant so I can't spoil it, right..... but come to find out my hood is also made in Mexico.

I also noticed Ruben had the same switch/option as my dentist.

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I really like this clear lens cover. Mine is 100% full red straight across with no cargo/utility light (see second pic up from the bottom of my previous post). I'll be happy to get this swapped in-

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 23, 2017, 04:40:08 PM
Please show side by side pictures of "old shoes" , "new shoes".......
Good idea, I'll see if I can find good comparison pics...


Edit 5/24/17: I forgot to post up a short trip report!

March 18, 2016: I towed the Crawler Truck!

Holly "EvilToy", a long time family friend, local customer, and board member here got married(!) and we had both my Hilux and the Crawler Truck setup as a backdrop for her wedding. The wedding featured over 20 Rock Crawlers setup as backdrops and it was awesome. The next day after the wedding I drove the Taco up to retrieve the Crawler Truck. The All Pro springs don't carry much weight (which I am happy about since I'll be looking for some flex outta em) but the power was great. I pulled out in front of traffic and when you open up this 2GR-FKS and get it into the high RPM range man it pulls dang good.

Heading back home through the foothills

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Made it back to the shop safely :thumbs:

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 23, 2017, 04:50:50 PM
Spent Feb and early Mar finishing up and launching our new website, so didn't have anytime for the Tacoma.

March 29, 2017: The Meat of the matter

Finally I had reached the first day of the most important project for this truck.

Back on the MC lift

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Oh, hello thar.

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Whoops, was this not supposed to fall off?

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on May 23, 2017, 05:31:24 PM
What' s the '046' box on the transfercase ?

And how much lift did you get out of the suspension mods?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: mudmaster on May 24, 2017, 05:45:06 AM
Still rear drums?????
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on May 24, 2017, 10:31:27 AM
:woohoo: I get excited seeing all of the tweaks to this thing.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Rockcrawlintoy on May 24, 2017, 11:59:47 AM
What' s the '046' box on the transfercase ?


Shift solenoid for the turn of the dial 4x4?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: H8PVMNT on May 24, 2017, 02:41:11 PM
I see a shifter and more gear reduction in your future.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 24, 2017, 04:54:51 PM
:woohoo: I get excited seeing all of the tweaks to this thing.
:hyper:

What' s the '046' box on the transfercase ?
Shift solenoid for the turn of the dial 4x4?
Bingo.

And how much lift did you get out of the suspension mods?
This is one excellent question. When I get the truck back from a special project I will get some measurements and compare with what I had posted before :thumbs:

Still rear drums?????
Yes..... For now.

I see a shifter and more gear reduction in your future.
I've heard the horror stories about electric shift solenoids getting gummed up with debris or worse water damage such that they stop functioning, but so long as it still works for me I am planning on leaving it. I've got the push dial on the dash and so far it works well. If it starts act'n up then I'll definitely be changing things.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on May 24, 2017, 05:16:14 PM
Still rear drums?????

Nothing the matter with rear drums.......

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/08/2016-toyota-tacoma-still-rear-drum-brakes-heres-video/


BTW,  my 86 stock rear drums are bigger..............
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Redbeard1 on May 24, 2017, 07:50:11 PM
Nothing the matter with rear drums.......

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/08/2016-toyota-tacoma-still-rear-drum-brakes-heres-video/


BTW,  my 86 stock rear drums are bigger..............

I am with you on this there is nothing wrong with rear drums. I am quite glad that my 2016 still has them.

The parking brake assemblies in most of the disk break setups out there suck. Tiny little 1" wide brake shoes in a 6-8" drum that won't hold the trucks from rolling on flat ground. If they were like the Cadillac calipers of the olden days that used a lever on the caliper piston that would be a different story.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 79coyotefrg on May 25, 2017, 12:00:04 AM
:popcorn:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: R.DesJardin on May 25, 2017, 06:49:44 AM
Been waiting to see the t-case drop.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 25, 2017, 07:52:50 AM
when you open up this 2GR-FKS and get it into the high RPM range man it pulls dang good.
Thought it would be fun to run a comparison of 4cyl and 6cyl past and present engines...

Disp (cc)      HP@ RPMHP/Liter         TQ@ RPMTQ/Liter
20R218990480041.1122240055.7
22R236696480040.6129280054.5
22R-E2366112460047.3142340060.0
22R-TE*2366135480057.1173280073.1Boosted @ factory 6 PSI
3RZ-FE2693150480055.7177400065.7
3RZ-F(Z)E*2693218480081.02574000*95.4TRD Supercharged rating @ 6 PSI, Peak TQ RPM will be considerably lower, Including this to make fun of the 22R-TE
2TR-FE2693159520059.0180380066.8
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3VZ-E2958150480050.7180340060.9
5VZ-FE3378190480056.2220360065.1
1GR-FE3956236520059.7266370067.2
1GR-FE*3956270560068.3278440070.3Dual VVT-i (4Runner/FJ C), What I figured Toyota would run in the new 3rd gen Taco
2GR-FKS    3456278600080.4265460076.7New 3rd Gen Tacoma, VVT-iW intake + VVT-i exhaust, Port + Direct Injection
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2GR-FKS3456295630085.4267470077.3Lexus RX350
1UZ-FE3969290590073.1300410075.6Lexus LS400, V8 + VVT-i

I see a lot of people giving the new 3.5-liter V6 a bad name but honestly it's a great engine. It's even putting out more HP & TQ per liter than the almighty 4.0-liter 1UZ V8. :o Also look at the Lexus version which is even better (however tuned for a car so likely even less bottom end TQ). I'm sure the complaint stems from less bottom end torque as it not only makes 1 ft-lb less torque but you also have to wait an additional 900 RPM to get there. I'd love to see dyno graphs of both engines. I should get mine dyno'd just to see what it looks like. There is a company called Orange Virus Tuning, https://www.ovtuned.com, who has found very interesting facts about newer Toyota engines such as Toyota closing the throttle once some predetermined peak (limited) power is met. (I can understand why; This is a simplified way to ensure all engines have the same rated output.) With new ECU programming, they have already shown to make upwards of 26 more HP and 30 more TQ from just a simple remap of the Lexus 3.5-liter engine. In case you're wondering, yes, I've already contacted them :gap:

Nothing the matter with rear drums.......
While I agree drum brakes have their place, the static holding force of a caliper and disc simply cannot be beat for Rock Crawling. When I went to discs in the rear of my '81 it became so much easier to hold the truck at a stop on very steep climbs such as long steep canyon climbs out at the Hammers.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/08/2016-toyota-tacoma-still-rear-drum-brakes-heres-video/
I'll give this about a 2 out of 10 because:
Quote
We asked Tacoma Chief Engineer Mike Sweers last week why the new Tacoma didn’t have discs in the back (unlike the new Tundra) and he pointed specifically to that piercing wail — and that most owners don’t need them anyhow.
Here it is folks, the prime reason in plain daylight as to why we don't have a rugged live front axle Turbocharged Diesel 70-series Land Cruiser here. "They are too noisy and most customers don't want them anyhow" ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)

Regards,
BigMike
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on May 25, 2017, 06:42:02 PM
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which crawler box fits please tell me...please please. :disturbed:

Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on May 28, 2017, 01:29:38 PM
Nov 2, 2016: "Stage 1" - Differential Gearing

-- Because my truck is a manual, it already came with 4.30:1 gearing (vs 3.901:1 for 6cyl autos). So the drop to 4.88:1, which is a staple Hilux/minitruck gear ratio with history dating back to the late 80s and rice paddy use in Brazil, will only net a 13.5% reduction meaning any tire size larger than 34.7" (30.6" + 13.5%) will cause the truck to become overgeared. There is another common aftermarket Toyota ratio, the 5.29:1, but Nitro has no interest in making this ratio for the 3rd gen. Their reasoning is that anyone who needs that low of gearing would ditch IFS anyway. I agree. Here we have another negative strike against keeping the truck IFS.

With 4.88 you are only "OVER gear by 0.04:1 on 35's since the calculator calls for 4.92 with 35's.  You will be under gear by 0.37:1 with 5.29.  I'll just switch to 4.88 and keep it simple. 

I don't know what you are talking about ARB has had 4.88 and 5.29 geared lockers for the 3rd gen Tacoma here is Canada since "LAST"  year.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Hilux_Max on May 28, 2017, 06:23:40 PM
Thought it would be fun to run a comparison of 4cyl and 6cyl past and present engines...

Disp (cc)      HP@ RPMHP/Liter         TQ@ RPMTQ/Liter
20R218990480041.1122240055.7
22R236696480040.6129280054.5
22R-E2366112460047.3142340060.0
22R-TE*2366135480057.1173280073.1Boosted @ factory 6 PSI
3RZ-FE2693150480055.7177400065.7
3RZ-F(Z)E*2693218480081.02574000*95.4TRD Supercharged rating @ 6 PSI, Peak TQ RPM will be considerably lower, Including this to make fun of the 22R-TE
2TR-FE2693159520059.0180380066.8
----------------
3VZ-E2958150480050.7180340060.9
5VZ-FE3378190480056.2220360065.1
1GR-FE3956236520059.7266370067.2
1GR-FE*3956270560068.3278440070.3Dual VVT-i (4Runner/FJ C), What I figured Toyota would run in the new 3rd gen Taco
2GR-FKS    3456278600080.4265460076.7New 3rd Gen Tacoma, VVT-iW intake + VVT-i exhaust, Port + Direct Injection
----------------
2GR-FKS3456295630085.4267470077.3Lexus RX350
1UZ-FE3969290590073.1300410075.6Lexus LS400, V8 + VVT-i

I see a lot of people giving the new 3.5-liter V6 a bad name but honestly it's a great engine. It's even putting out more HP & TQ per liter than the almighty 4.0-liter 1UZ V8. :o Also look at the Lexus version which is even better (however tuned for a car so likely even less bottom end TQ). I'm sure the complaint stems from less bottom end torque as it not only makes 1 ft-lb less torque but you also have to wait an additional 900 RPM to get there. I'd love to see dyno graphs of both engines. I should get mine dyno'd just to see what it looks like. There is a company called Orange Virus Tuning, https://www.ovtuned.com, who has found very interesting facts about newer Toyota engines such as Toyota closing the throttle once some predetermined peak (limited) power is met. (I can understand why; This is a simplified way to ensure all engines have the same rated output.) With new ECU programming, they have already shown to make upwards of 26 more HP and 30 more TQ from just a simple remap of the Lexus 3.5-liter engine. In case you're wondering, yes, I've already contacted them :gap:
While I agree drum brakes have their place, the static holding force of a caliper and disc simply cannot be beat for Rock Crawling. When I went to discs in the rear of my '81 it became so much easier to hold the truck at a stop on very steep climbs such as long steep canyon climbs out at the Hammers.
I'll give this about a 2 out of 10 because:Here it is folks, the prime reason in plain daylight as to why we don't have a rugged live front axle Turbocharged Diesel 70-series Land Cruiser here. "They are too noisy and most customers don't want them anyhow" ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)

Regards,
BigMike


Here's another one for ya....the current Hilux 2.8D

130kW = 176hP
450nM of torque = 332 foot pounds
(from 1600rpm to 2400rpm)

What are the plans for a Crawl Box in this Tacoma?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 30, 2017, 08:54:17 AM
With 4.88 you are only "OVER gear by 0.04:1 on 35's since the calculator calls for 4.92 with 35's.
Not sure which calculator you are referring to but at 33" tires I am already overgeared. It looks like I haven't mentioned this yet but with the 285/70R17 tires installed my speedometer now reads 3 to 5 MPH too low: When my GPS says I'm doing 75 my speedometer is showing 71 MPH. This doesn't make sense on paper as direct calculations shows, as quoted, that a 34.7" actual OD will lower my speedometer back to stock yet somehow now it's already too low. It will be possibly two more weeks until I can measure my new tires but they are only supposed to be a 32.7" OD. It's only gonna get worse with larger tires so I'll need to get a speedometer corrector soon.

You will be under gear by 0.37:1 with 5.29.  I'll just switch to 4.88 and keep it simple.
I pine deeply for 5.29s.

I don't know what you are talking about ARB has had 4.88 and 5.29 geared lockers for the 3rd gen Tacoma here is Canada since "LAST"  year.
As far as I know this is only true for the front locker, which was unchanged for the 3rd gen. Regarding the rear, keep in mind I'm only caught up to March. As I recall we got a rear 3rd gen Taco locker from ARB's first batch only a week before we got it installed. So maybe ARB had them in Feb but I don't think they had them has far back as Dec 2016. I don't do the ordering around here so I probably have wrong information. There is no such thing currently as a 5.29:1 R&P for the non-Electric Locker 3rd gen Tacoma rear end.

Here's another one for ya....the current Hilux 2.8D
Ohhh man if only we got a diesel here!! :rivers: :rivers:
Disp (cc)      HP@ RPMHP/Liter         TQ@ RPMTQ/Liter
1GD-FTV2755177340064.23301600119.8Turbo Diesel 4cyl
That is so amazing. I don't know why "Americans" literally do not want this.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on May 30, 2017, 01:35:40 PM
30.6 (old tire) / 32.7 (new tire) = .936 * 75mph = 70.2mph  (71)

Which pretty much agrees with your GPS and speedo..................
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: R.DesJardin on May 31, 2017, 06:15:22 AM
I have the 2wd Tacoma speedo from my donor truck, ironically with 4.88's and 36's it's right on. What are the odds.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: liveoak on May 31, 2017, 06:38:42 AM


I see a lot of people giving the new 3.5-liter V6 a bad name but honestly it's a great engine.

Regards,
BigMike

most of the problems I've read about are with the new auto trans, that's what's giving it a bad name
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 31, 2017, 10:05:13 PM
March 29, 2017: The Meat of the matter (continued)

Happy to see we have some nice room to play with in here. Duals should be a piece of cake but it will require a good deal of cutting to get Triples in.

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The goal at this point is to just get our Dual Ultimate (4.70:1) installed so I can make it to TLCA's Cruise Moab which is a month away.

This will make my Tacoma...
Additional upsides include...

It will be transformed into a 28-speed, having 24 forward gears and 4 reverse, and an overall final drive / Crawl Ratio of 235:1. All of this from just one Marlin Crawler setup!
 :o

I'll run the Dual Ultimate through the year and move up to Triples in the off-season/winter as I'll have a lot of other work to get done in the interim.

After removing the stock t/case we took measurements and used this opportunity to introduce our MC3X adapter product line! Say hello to our brand new USA-made Billet Aluminum 3rd gen Tacoma transmission bolt pattern adpater!

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We have made considerable improvements to our Transmission-to-Transfer case bolt pattern adapter plate kits, now branded under an all-new MC3X product line:
MC30 - All 3VZ 4WD drivetrains (formerly known as a 30-4GT Adapter Kit)
MC31 - All 5VZ/RZ 4WD drivetrains and some UZ 4WD drivetrains (formerly known as 27-4GT, 34-4GT & 47-4GT Adapter Kits)
MC32 - 1GR 4WD drivetrain (formerly known as a 40-4GT Adapter Kit)

Improvements include simplification of fastners (no more elusive Ford "D-bolt" nor having to clearance transmission tail housing flange), increased oiling/cooling, an 8% weight reduction, and an increase in strength across the transmission pattern by a solid 25%. For the cherry on top we're now hard anodizing them Marlin Crawler red :smokn:

What our Transmission-to-Transfer Case Bolt Pattern Adapters do is convert transmission tail housing bolt patterns to that of a 1979-1995 gear drive Toyota transfer case. This opens the flood gates to the entire world of everything Marlin Crawler Rock Crawling. They are located in the lower section of our website here, https://www.marlincrawler.com/transfer-case/adapters, however as these are brand new we need to get this section of our website updated to reflect the improvements.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 31, 2017, 10:07:45 PM
Basics of a Marlin Crawler Dual Case Setup:
When Marlin founded Rock Crawling in 1994, he created what he called a "Dual Transfer Case". This term is actually inaccurate as there are not two transfer cases (nor are there four drivelines): There is still only one transfer case. Rather, he has duplicated the low range section (containing High-Netural-Low) of the transfer case.

"Don't Gear Down, Double Up!"

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If you ever get a chance to go wheel'n with Marlin and sit with him at a campfire you'll be in for some amazing stories. He'll describe how Toyota pickups were outnumbered on the trails 30:1 by Jeeps, save for but a few Land Cruisers. How back in the 80s and early 90s very few people wheel'd Toyota pickups. How Jeeps owned & ran the show. And how it was common to be told to "get his Jap tin can off the trail".

As many know Marlin is famous for carrying a ton of recovery parts that he uses to help rescue broken rigs. But the reason why he began carrying so much is actually because he would go out for a weekend and never see another pickup for three days. He carried so much out of necessity. He'll even tell you it was out of fear. Forget about trying to find spare parts -- there weren't even other like vehicles on the trail.

The reason why Marlin was able to finally get recognition for Toyota pickups is due to the unique 4-housing design of the Toyota Gear Drive T/Case. The first housing contains the High-Netural-Low (low range) components while housings 2-4 contain front and rear output components (2WD-4WD). A bit more is explained on this very old tech page of ours, https://www.marlincrawler.com/java/gearvschain.html.

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This design of the 1979-95 Toyota Gear Drive T/Case is highly unique and is unlike 99% of all mass produced 4WD truck transfer cases. This is not possible with any Jeep/GM/Ford/Chrysler/Nissan/Suzuki/etc t/case except for the older, unpopular, and almost 3 times more heavy NP203. This is why Marlin was able to transform the Toyota pickup into a break-out star: By extracting only the first housing, we can stack and combine High-N-Low sections, what Marlin calls a "Crawl Box", one after the other as many as desired like pancakes. Two? Three? Four? How about Ten? (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=24989) :D The limiting factor is how much can be removed from your rear drive line -- and this is where the Toyota Hilux/4Runner and even more so these long wheelbase Tacoma's shine. The traditional Jeep has a very short wheelbase rendering this process either impossible or very difficult (requiring a very tall lift or repositioning the engine forward). The same applies for the classic FJ40 Land Cruiser (which used to be more common on the trail than Toyota pickups) and Suzuki Samurai. As such the Toyota pickup became extremely capable off-road and an overnight sensation all thanks to the Marlin Crawler. The rest as they say is history!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on May 31, 2017, 10:09:11 PM
March 29, 2017: The Meat of the matter (continued)

At this point I had a decision to make:
1. Keep my original 6-speed manual transmission-type transfer case with it's electric shift solenoid,
or
2. Replace it with a 6-speed manual transmission-type transfer case from a FJ Cruiser which uses a manual top-shift shift handle (just like our older Hilux pickups!)

I decided to keep my original t/case with electric shift solenoid. The reason is three-fold as 1) I like to keep parts original as much as I can and it would be neat to retain it, 2) while I've heard horror stories of dust, grime, and water getting into the electric shift solenoids causing them to not function, I've already got a nice push dial on my dash and I'd like to keep it and see how it does for a few years (we make the most successful seals on the market,  Marlin Crawler EcoSeals (https://www.marlincrawler.com/ecoseal), so if this does prove an issue then we will flat-out resolve it), and 3) not everyone is willing to give up a cup holder so I'm planning to design a proper remote shift setup that will satisfy Tacoma, 4Runner, FJ Cruiser, T100, and Tundra customers alike.

Next is an issue with my manual-transmission-type t/case input spline count.

When Toyota introduced the 6-speed manual transmission, they finally made a man-sized input gear, namly the 19-spline. This input is massive compared to the older 6-cyl manual transmission's 23-spline input of the golden years (adopted from the 1986 Turbocharged 22R-TE 4cyl & still in use after all these years). Starting with the 2nd gen Tacoma, there are two 6cyl spline types offered: The traditional 23-spline input (auto applications) and the new, massive 19-spline input (manual applications). Unfortunately for us our world-famous Double-Roll output coupler/mainshaft bearing does not have a large enough ID to accept the 19-spline t/case input. Marlin already designed a solution for the 19-spline back in 2006 but demand has been too low to produce it. Little by little things like this are going to be changing as we move deeper into newer Toyota models.

So currently the only way to install a Marlin Crawler Dual Case into a Tacoma, which since 2001 is known as a "TacoBox", is to use the 23-spline automatic-type t/case input. I cracked open my t/case of only 8,000 miles to perform an input gear conversion :)

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While looking things over I noticed my freak'n oil pump is already galling!!

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Here you can see a lot of wear on the softer aluminum housing:

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What's up Toyota? Only 8K miles and my t/case oil pump has noticable wear? Not much I can do now beings I've open up the t/case (bubye warranty) but I'm sure glad I noticed it. I promptly ordered a new pump gear & housing from Toyota -- which was delivered with perfectly smooth polished surfaces.

When changing to the smaller 23-spline automatic-transmission-type input we must also change to it's matching t/case nose cone. So here we have automatic input and nose cone installed onto my manual t/case:

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Now we are finally ready for some MARLIN CRAWLER MAGIC!

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The test mule is a modified MC11 USA-made Billet Aluminum Dual Case adapter with our signature double-roller maximum capacity 32-ball count main bearing now for the first time ever utilizing our Extreme Duty lower cage bearing:

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 300k on May 31, 2017, 10:37:06 PM
You've got me sitting here refreshing the page, Mike! I'm glad I stayed up to witness this magic as it unfolds. Maybe the future for offroading won't be so bleak with Marlin Crawler around
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 01, 2017, 03:14:29 AM
I was out of town for a week and knowing time was critical I had Rocky, who is our drivetrain specialist of 16 yrs, build my TacoBox with a set of our 4.70:1 Competition gears (made from Chromoly by Toyota's own gear cutter in Japan) that feature our Total-Spline technology (world's strongest Toyota input design).

This also meant I missed the opportunity to get pics of the build. I do have studio pics for a 1st gen Tacoma which is nearly identical except for bolt patterns...

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This is our MC09 TacoBox with our new updated front & rear adapters. Click each thumbnail for larger resolution:

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We are looking at a 1979-95 Toyota High-Neutral-Low t/case section extracted and placed between two Marlin Crawler adapters ready to be mounted between your choice 1995.5+ transmission and transfer case.

Described by location:

Transmission --> TacoBox --> Transfer Case

Described by shift modes:

Transmission --> H-N-L --> 2H-4H-4N-4L

The nice thing about duplicating the High-Neutral-Low section is that in High Range we have a 1:1 direct drive meaning that whatever torque we have entering the Marlin Crawler will be the same exiting (ignoring insignificant parasitic losses).

New T/Case Gear choices become:
1. Marlin Crawler in High, stock Tacoma t/case in High = 1.00:1 x 1.00:1 = 1:1 (cruise on highway same as factory)
2. MC in High, Taco in Low = 1 x 2.57 = 2.57:1 (same as any other Tacoma on the trail)
3. MC in Low, Taco in High = 4.70 x 1 = 4.70:1 (83% lower than stock!)
4. MC in Low, Taco in Low = 4.70 x 2.57 = 12.08:1 (370% lower than stock!!!)

When you replace the 1979-95 2.28:1 factory Toyota low range as I've done with our 4.70:1 ratio (which Marlin created in 1995), you have what we call a "TacoBox Supreme". Probably 95% of all TacoBoxes we build are Supremes. The primary reasons for this are 1) if you're going to do this much work why not go all out, and 2) with the Supreme you get three very distinct ratios (2.57:1 & 4.70:1 & their combined 12.08:1) instead of a similar pair of 2.28:1 & 2.57:1 which isn't nearly as interesting.

There is one final part remaining and that is how do we get the smaller 23-spline automatic-type t/case input to connect to my manual transmission's larger 19-spline output and for this we designed a 19-to-23-spline coupler with an extended length specifically to match our Total Spline input technology. I'll update the thread with more info & pics of this once we get actual production couplers ready.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 01, 2017, 03:16:36 AM
April 24, 2017: World's First Dual Case 3rd Gen Crawler is installed!

CHECK IT OUT!! Test-fit pics of the World's first Dual Case'd 3rd Gen Tacoma!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: R.DesJardin on Jun 01, 2017, 06:49:29 AM
Great overview on the Marlin story. I too lived through that time wheelin era and saw all the Toyotas were mall crawlers, lots of chrome. All my friends wheeled flat fender Jeeps. Me? well I had a different Japanese make that I built up. Early to mid 80's timeframe.

So you'll have the range box, 1.1 or 4.7, and the rear case with still work as stock? Until you do the LC case where you case twin stick the rear of course.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: SqWADoosh on Jun 01, 2017, 08:18:05 AM
Seems like there is a lot of weight out past the cross-member. Is the plan for a second cross-member to support it?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Jun 01, 2017, 08:32:41 AM
Hot damn!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 01, 2017, 12:23:12 PM
Great overview on the Marlin story. I too lived through that time wheelin era and saw all the Toyotas were mall crawlers, lots of chrome.
I remember the time where if you didn't have dual front shocks then you weren't hot stuff :yupyup:

So you'll have the range box, 1.1 or 4.7, and the rear case with still work as stock? Until you do the LC case where you case twin stick the rear of course.
I am going to keep my Tacoma t/case and the factory push knob for 4WD & Low Range.

Clearance issues

To check for clearance we reattached the drivetrain in it's original location of crossmember to transmission tail housing.

It turns out there are only two issues.

1. T/case top is contacting the bottom of the cab where the e-brake cables are held:

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2. The top of the t/case front output section is not touching but is very close to a body rail:

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All things considered that is really not bad at all, even the (dumb) factory crossover exhaust clears. As for Triples......forget about it. I am going to have to cut out and replace an entire section of the body. I must go Triples. I will go Triples. I'll have to save that for a later date.

Because I'll eventually be cutting this stuff out I just told Rocky to "use a big hammer" and appropriate clearancing was performed :D We test fitted it three or fours times taking measurements each time so now we know how far to clearance for clean customer installs.

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Seems like there is a lot of weight out past the cross-member. Is the plan for a second cross-member to support it?
There are two upsides for weight concerns: 1) The Chain Drive is almost 20 lbs lighter than the older Gear Drive t/case and it's long been proven that one t/case mount is sufficient for the extra weight and length added by a Dual Case setup, and 2) because the #1/front gear drive housing is where the t/case cross member was originally mounted, the Marlin Crawler adds an optional/additional t/case mount. As such there are many crossmembers designed for the Marlin Crawler that incorporate dual crossmember mounts to help spread the drivetrain load prolonging the life of your engine mounts.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 01, 2017, 01:53:04 PM
April 27, 2017: Temporary Shifter Install

Next we did a temporary shifter install through my front cup holder. As mentioned earlier, I will be designing a proper remote shifter setup that won't require the loss of a cup holder. I'll need this anyway once the Triple Crawler gets installed. So with Cruise Moab only five days away we really just needed to get some miles on this baby so here goes

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I first checked for center console availability (dealer says no problem) (I can't just walk into a wrecking yard for this truck) then had Rocky proceed with the install. A traditional dog-leg shifter was fab'd up out of a 22R(-E) 4cyl head bolt (homage!) and trimming was done only what was necessary so that the cup holder will still be functional once I remove and find a better setup for the shifter.

Even if I don't keep this configuration I was amazed to see plenty of open room here for extra shifters. It's always different between cab configs and shift types, with or without rear passenger climate control such as a 4Runner. Hot water lines and heat exchangers. We've built shifter setups for them all --  see our Shifter Gallery Page here (https://www.marlincrawler.com/tech/transfercase/marlin-crawler-interior-shifter-picture-archive) -- but having a nice remote setup that could be mounted in more locations would be welcomed. 

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The red shift base is our new Push-N-Turn top shift shifter base kit: https://www.marlincrawler.com/transfer-case/shifter-parts/push-n-turn-shifter-base-kit

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The outcome was not too shaby!

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The next day I replaced the red rag with a black vinyl sound-deadening mat. No shift handle boot. Hoping to have a good winter to get this redesigned and Triples in!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 300k on Jun 01, 2017, 02:06:34 PM
I'd rather see a :turtle: shift knob sticking out of my cup holder than a big gulp ANY DAY :gap:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: R.DesJardin on Jun 01, 2017, 03:34:06 PM
Does the cup holder come apart so you can make an "billet" aluminum insert that will house/cover all you current and future levers?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on Jun 01, 2017, 06:38:00 PM
When you go to a triple setup, will you move the shifters forward to the tranny  so you have

triple shifters for your triple boxes ?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Gnarly4X on Jun 02, 2017, 04:03:27 AM
Hey Mike,

Incredible write-up!  Love the photos.

Have you calculated the fuel mileage by the gallons of gas pumped and recording the mileage on the odometer.... or just going by the instrument panel?

Gnarls.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 02, 2017, 08:30:10 AM
Does the cup holder come apart so you can make an "billet" aluminum insert that will house/cover all you current and future levers?
I was hoping for this at first but unfortunately it is a one piece molded console.

When you go to a triple setup, will you move the shifters forward to the tranny  so you have

triple shifters for your triple boxes ?
The idea is to go entirely away from the traditional shifter arrangement, perhaps use a cable (easiest) or electric solenoid (very cool, but after having used the factory electric t/c shift solenoid it takes a comparatively long time to shift and you don't get that positive physical gear change acknowledgement). 

Hey Mike,

Incredible write-up!  Love the photos.
Thank you! A lot of this has been rushed but once I get caught up I'll actually start trying to take better quality pictures.

Have you calculated the fuel mileage by the gallons of gas pumped and recording the mileage on the odometer.... or just going by the instrument panel?
I track MPG for my vehicles by phone app and yes they are 100% accurate to the MPG dash readout. That said, what I have not done is tracked miles by GPS to verify the odometer. The speedometer is (was) accurate to my GPS.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 02, 2017, 10:01:39 AM
April 30, 2017: Extended shift solenoid wiring

Because we are adding the TacoBox in front of the t/case, the t/case is moved back. The front driveline must be lengthened, the rear driveline shortened, and wires to the shift solenoid extended.

My truck has 9 wires to extend. A couple second gen automatic-type t/cases we have use 12.

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We are working on a pig tail harness so this can (optionally) be a plug-n-play affair.

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Wires only need to be extended 8-inches but I extended mine almost twenty to be prepared for Triples

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I then re-loomed, taped up, and rerouted using factory loom holders/clips.

May 1, 2017: New drivelines installed

The rear driveline is a two piece with carrier bearing, and while we do have the option to go one-piece, the carrier bearing arrangement keeps the rear d-line up and out of the rocks so I've kept it for now. (Will most likely go one-piece with Triples.)

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Front d-line lengthened (pics before looming/mounting wires).

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We normally only balance rears, because why would you need to go over 30 MPH in 4WD, but things are different nowadays with expedition and overland use so we'll be balance many fronts. I'll balance mine but no sense doing that yet as it'll get lengthened again.

At this point the Marlin Crawler is all done and ready for its first action!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 02, 2017, 10:04:26 AM
April 26, 2017: Rear ARB installed

During this time we *finally* got ahold of the new rear ARB Air Locker for non-E-locking 3rd gen Tacomas. Cosmetically it looks very similar to the 2nd gen Taco rear ARB.

So out came the rear diff and in went the ARB.

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I now have ARB air lockers front & rear......however at this time I don't have on-board air and nothing hooked up. With only a couple days left before we leave for Utah I plugged off the air lines at each diff and crossed my fingers that my Auto LSD will hold up.

I'll be doing an indepth description and report once I get my on-board air installed and the lockers hooked up.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 02, 2017, 10:04:44 AM
May 2, 2017: Fender trimming & my first ever Turtle Hood sticker!

One day before Moab I finally got my fenders trimmed for the larger 33s rubbers. We only trimmed as lil as needed for now because we must make entirely new cab mount brackets for the 37s/39s to come soon.

The tires are kept on and suspension cycled after each small cut to recheck interference.

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I also got some Spidertrax 1.25" wheel spacers installed to help get my front width back closer to stock (the further you extend a lower A-arm down below horizontal (more lift) the more narrow the front width becomes).

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 02, 2017, 10:06:45 AM
Hood Sticker install

Hmmmmm Something is missing....

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Ohh that is MUCH better :D

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For the first time in my life I now have a rig with our Turtle Hood Sticker!! WOOOOOT

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Take THAT you old lame fake hood scoop lol

Our hood stickers measure 36-inches and may be found here: https://www.marlincrawler.com/accessories/stickers-logos/turtle-stickers

It was easy to install:
1. Clean (degrease) hood
2. Spray soapy water using a mist spray bottle
3. Place sticker atop soapy water and reposition as needed
4. Use a credit card or flat plastic surface to squish all the water out
5. After 30 min or so it will be fully dry and might I say most beautiful
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 02, 2017, 10:22:32 AM
May 3, 2017: Finally back outside!

Finally back outside!

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I replaced the 6" Turtle sticker I had installed outside of the Magnolia Market, Waco, TX a year ago with a larger 12" version. (I hastily did it; Should have used soapy water to remove air bubbles.) I also slapped on a TLCA sticker to show my support to the largest international Toyota off-road organization

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May 4, 2017: Packing for it's second Cruise Moab event

Over the years I've put together a good trail use and recovery gear that I've had down to a science. All the common issues I see on the trail I've packed and prepared for. But now most of this is out the window as I'm not in my Hilux. Feels reallllllly strange trying to pack for my first real wheel'n event.

This is my usual gear that I bring with me.

With the Tacoma I can place my packers together widthwise. Not possible with the more narrow Hilux bed...

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I also have this extra dead space behind my boxes...

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Plus I haven't even used this new awesome weather and theft proof space either...

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Man there is so much more room here. No wonder these Tacomas are so much larger and heavier....
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 02, 2017, 10:31:01 AM
May 4, 2017: 2nd trip to TLCA's Cruise Moab

Finally leaving for Moab!

All loaded up and ready for another 14 hr road trip!

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One last sexy pic before hit'n the road

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I couldn't make it five miles on the freeway when this white 3rd gen caught up and began cruising behind me. Queue Jerry Reed's 'East Bound and Down' music!!

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Ohh man I'm love'n this hood sticker

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Fuel mileage has dropped due to larger tires and lift plus my speedometer is reading 4 to 5 MPH too low. 14.9 is probably really 15.5 or so...

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Jun 02, 2017, 11:33:34 AM
:popcorn: inspiration.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: R.DesJardin on Jun 02, 2017, 12:14:53 PM
I have cable shifters for my dual case setup. I found it was a pain for cable routing, bend radius and all, 3 cables, imagine 5. Just saying. I have pics in a thread on here. Air would be sweet, but then you have to add a bunch of control solenoids and an air supply to get it to do what you want. I like the cable idea because you still have the feel and a direct connection to the cases. No wondering if its shifting. Local kid has that setup on his 4Runner, well he actually just sold it. Carry on, I'm enjoying this build up.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Jun 02, 2017, 01:54:40 PM
May 4, 2017: 2nd trip to TLCA's Cruise Moab

Finally leaving for Moab!

All loaded up and ready for another 14 hr road trip!

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One last sexy pic before hit'n the road

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I couldn't make it five miles on the freeway when this white 3rd gen caught up and began cruising behind me. Queue Jerry Reed's 'East Bound and Down' music!!

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Ohh man I'm love'n this hood sticker

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Fuel mileage has dropped due to larger tires and lift plus my speedometer is reading 4 to 5 MPH too low. 14.9 is probably really 15.5 or so...

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why does your speedo say 0mph on a busy freeway?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on Jun 02, 2017, 03:58:38 PM
May 2, 2017: Fender trimming & my first ever Turtle Hood sticker!

One day before Moab I finally got my fenders trimmed for the larger 33s rubbers. We only trimmed as lil as needed for now because we must make entirely new cab mount brackets for the 37s/39s to come soon.

The tires are kept on and suspension cycled after each small cut to recheck interference.


I also got some Spidertrax 1.25" wheel spacers installed to help get my front width back closer to stock (the further you extend a lower A-arm down below horizontal (more lift) the more narrow the front width becomes).

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Don't the wheel spacers make it MORE likely that the outer edge of the tire will hit the fender when turning the wheel ?

 :dunno:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Jun 02, 2017, 04:13:36 PM
votes in, fenderless and 54's :willynilly:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Jun 02, 2017, 04:15:04 PM
and, you guys should produce a billet RF1A housing already clearanced for the 23-spline. ALL RED
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Willard on Jun 02, 2017, 04:16:14 PM
Sounds like the wheels spacers were installed to keep the stock width due to the loss from the control arm upgrades.


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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Jun 04, 2017, 05:57:51 AM
Seems like there is a lot of weight out past the cross-member. Is the plan for a second cross-member to support it?

Maybe a combo cross-member skid plate. :thumbs: :yesnod:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Jun 04, 2017, 06:10:53 AM
To check for clearance we reattached the drivetrain in it's original location of crossmember to transmission tail housing.

It turns out there are only two issues.

1. T/case top is contacting the bottom of the cab where the e-brake cables are held:

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2. The top of the t/case front output section is not touching but is very close to a body rail:

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sounds to me like a simple 2" body lift will fix that.  With the body lift you can solve three problems at once. Two problem you have now and prevent a problem you can have in the future.  The body lift will give you clearance for the drive line and tires. Since you have the body off the frame change the rubber body mounts and install POLY  body mounts and you will never have to worry about the rubber ones rotting off. 
I also like the feel of the poly mounts.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 04, 2017, 11:43:04 AM
have pics in a thread on here. Air would be sweet, but then you have to add a bunch of control solenoids and an air supply
Not a fan at all for air shifting due to too many requirements, complexity, and maintanence on the customer's end. I will take a look at your thread. We've done cable shifters before many times on ToyBoxes (Land Cruiser Dual Case setups) with success.

why does your speedo say 0mph on a busy freeway?  :headscratch:
The 3rd gen Tacoma looks so cool that other motorists are willing to hold up traffic for this Build Thread :greengrin:

Don't the wheel spacers make it MORE likely that the outer edge of the tire will hit the fender when turning the wheel ?
Yes and it'll get worse once I go at least another two inches wider per side (AP's long travel IFS kit).

and, you guys should produce a billet RF1A housing already clearanced for the 23-spline. ALL RED
The cost of that large a billet! :o :o

Maybe a combo cross-member skid plate. :thumbs: :yesnod:
Yessir, I've already got it half drawn up and hopefully will have something ready by Rubicon early July.

sounds to me like a simple 2" body lift will fix that.
In my experience bandaids like body lifts only cause more problems elsewhere. I highly dislike body lifts and only made a 1" kit for my Hilux because I thought it was required for the 3RZ-FE conversion. I was wrong. Bumpers since welded to the frame. Not gonna go back now.

This (http://oi35.tinypic.com/9gzo8j.jpg) is what comes to mind when I hear the words "body lift" :ha_ha:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 04, 2017, 11:55:27 AM
May 4, 2017: 2nd trip to TLCA's Cruise Moab

Misc driving pics. I forgot to mention how I couldn't get the Taco ready until a day after Marlin and Mrs. Crawler had already left for Moab. So I made the 860 mile solo trip in one shot. I'll tell you one thing, having a truck newer than 1983 that has cruise control is very helpful.

Grabbing lunch in Las Vegas. Haha just noticed I had parked on the line

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One entire tank straight without stopping. A 5 to 6% change in speed reading would make it 306-309 miles traveled at 15.4 to 15.6 MPG.

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Drowsy driving? No wonder...

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 04, 2017, 11:56:41 AM
May 4, 2017: 2nd trip to TLCA's Cruise Moab

Safely arrived back in Moab!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Jun 05, 2017, 05:00:32 AM
In my experience bandaids like body lifts only cause more problems elsewhere. I highly dislike body lifts and only made a 1" kit for my Hilux because I thought it was required for the 3RZ-FE conversion. I was wrong. Bumpers since welded to the frame. Not gonna go back now.

This (http://oi35.tinypic.com/9gzo8j.jpg) is what comes to mind when I hear the words "body lift" :ha_ha:

You  have hurt my feelings...  :snare:

Also that is not a body lift. That is something with words I can't use here and not get banned for this life and maybe
 the next.. :smack: :reg: :screwy:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Jun 05, 2017, 05:04:31 AM
Karen says to say she hates you now... I think she is jealous about me getting so excited over the crawler box...and she is not happy at what it will cost...

You still taking used gear drive cases?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: R.DesJardin on Jun 05, 2017, 10:47:50 AM
This (http://oi35.tinypic.com/9gzo8j.jpg) is what comes to mind when I hear the words "body lift" :ha_ha:

Yep, me too........Body Lift.  :rofl2:
Back in the 80's it was all the rage and I fell into it. It was a great way to destroy the body at its mounting locations. Can you say torn out? I wheeled the crap out of that truck and needed to patch the cab mounts so the body lift spacers didn't come through the floor.  :smack: No it wasn't a home made kit.

Back to cable shift. It was the bend radius of the cables and routing inside the cab the I found challenging. With the t-cases and trans tucked up into the tunnel there was just no room underneath.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: toyyota on Jun 05, 2017, 08:04:50 PM
Mike, we'll keep a low C.O.G.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 06, 2017, 09:03:34 AM
Mike, we'll keep a low C.O.G.
Bob!!! :wave: Yes, I will definitely be needing your help while I fit some larger round meatballs under the truck :yesnod:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Cheesemaker on Jun 08, 2017, 08:53:16 PM
I don't know how I missed all these updates!   :smack:


But I love the progress and the direction you are going Mike.   :thumbs:  As for you thinking you missed the Tacoma bus long time ago, your business was going thru ALOT of changes then.  Geiger, failed merger, Dean, your schooling, and you just got your first 4x4.  There were some crazy years there, you guys stuck to your guns, and stayed true to the dual case adapters.  And now with you at the helm and Marlin in R&D, your future is wide open.  Alot of us have been there for you in more ways than one. 

As for the Tacoma, I am not a huge fan of them.  The Second Gen pickup is my absolute favorite body style.  But I do like that All-Pro has picked up that Long Travel and is running with it.  If I were to buy a Tacoma, I would love to have a 4 door, and go expedition style with the long travel front end.  Nothing too radical, something in the 35" tire range.  Perfect balance for a DD. 

As for your beloved First gen, I would love to fly down and drive it for you to a roundup for you.  You know, making a sacrifice for Marlin Crawler!   ;)

Keep us informed on the updates when you can my dear friend!  :biggthumpup:

 
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 09, 2017, 07:25:43 PM
As for you thinking you missed the Tacoma bus long time ago, your business was going thru ALOT of changes then.
Thank you very much for the kind, moving words Ryan. Now I need to step it up and not delay this opportunity any longer than I already have.

As for the Tacoma, I am not a huge fan of them.
I don't know man... This new 3rd gen is pretty dang sweeeeet :drool:

May 4, 2017: Fins & Things

Cruise Moab is the largest annual Toyota-based Moab event, gathering over 200 in attendance. We have attended off-and-on since it's inception 20 yrs ago. It is an official TLCA event that is incredibly well ran by the Rising Sun 4WD Club of Colorado. If you've been wanting to run trails at Moab with extremely friendly and knowledgeable group of Toyota gearheads, then this is the event to attend.

The event is typically the first week of May and runs from Tuesday through Sunday. Our usual participation includes officially leading a Thursday trail, setting up our booth for a vendor show that night, run another trail Friday followed by the main dinner/raffle that night.

Knowing we'd have the Tacoma without the air lockers connected, we registered for easy trails both days.

On Thursday we hosted a group through Fins & Things. It was my first time on this trail. For the Tacoma, it was a lot of fun! There were multiple lines I did not feel comfortable taking that Marlin took without any trouble. At one point I forgot I was in the Tacoma and while following behind The Crawler Truck I dropped off some huge ledge and drug the truck on pretty much everything possible including the plastic fuel tank :rofl:

Here we are having a driver's meeting outside City Market

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Marlin talking to the crowd and handing out Marlin Crawler goodie bags which consisted of autographed Marlin Crawler Coffee Mugs, Marlin Crawler Coozie, Marlin Crawler Key Chain/Bottle Opener, and a Marlin Crawler sticker pack.

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While looking at the list of rigs registered for our run I WAS VERY INTRIGUED regarding a 2016 AccessCab Tacoma ON 35" TIRES.

35" TIRES.

:o

First, obviously, I was upset that I've been sitting on this Tacoma for an entire year and I don't have 35s yet. NO EXCUSE. Second, I was wondering what suspension kit he was running and was very eager to see it!

After the driver's meeting I walked over and this is what I found. Whew. It is a stock TRD Off-Road with TRD exhaust and intake. Automatic.........of course. Very nice owner named Rich who has been a FJ40 Land Cruiser owner since the 60s and finally decided he wanted to buy a new truck and got a new white AccessCab 3rd gen. I gotta agree it was a nice choice :D

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Here is most of the group entering the Sand Flats Recreation Area. It's gonna be an awesome day!

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I took a bunch of photos that I'll be submitting to our official Marlin Crawler Trip Report Gallery, so from here out I'll just try to show only those pertaining to the thread
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 09, 2017, 07:29:06 PM
May 4, 2017: Fins & Things (continued)

While airing down a young man walked over and asked if I wouldn't mind him riding along. I said absolutely, I appreciate having a spotter! Now on 33s I aired down to 12 psi. Before I got beadlocks under my Hilux, I had 35" tires and around 7 psi it would begin burping air out the bead. Knowing the Tacoma is both heavier and has a smaller tire profile with 17" wheels, I figured I'd try 12 and see how it works from there.

The day has officially started!

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This lil climb was fun because Marlin got into a wheelbase hole and struggled. It took him a while to finally get up it and then when I came along, beings I am a good twenty-inches longer, I walked right up this...

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...and on the very first obstacle my very first time using the Marlin Crawler Dual Case TacoBox I performed my very first Walking The Crawler!

It was awesome. Sure, 235:1 is not as impressive as my Hilux's 511:1 nor anywhere nearly as impressive as The Crawler Truck's 1,148:1, it was still cool to see. I got out of the truck during the steep section but only have this pic from my mother....who for some reason has a weird hue filter enabled (sorry in advance for the strange color from her pics!)

My new co-pilot was especially amazed that a truck could do that at a complete idle without an operator. Went up it with ease + got out of the truck. Afterwards Marlin looked at me and said, "Gee thanks a lot!" haha

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Oh man what a night and day difference having the Marlin Crawler installed!! This truck has 1,000% been transformed and the same with my confidence level -- I feel like I could go anywhere, traction limiting. The invincible feeling you get from the Marlin Crawler. Man oh man how long has it been since I've felt this way. This is so awesome to be building a new truck!!

After Walking My Crawler, I ran back down the hill to get some pics of my 3rd gen buddy. Here is a shot looking at the steep but short climb that my truck walked up on it's own

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I walked over and asked Rich if he wouldn't mind me jumping in so I could experience Crawl Control. He said no prob and I hopped in.

Instantly I noticed this. WHAT IS THIS?!?!?!

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THAT IS AMAZING!! I am assuming this is only offered on Off-Road models but I'd surely like to know if there is a way to get this for my truck. I also have a genuine Toyota clinometer in my Hilux and this would be great. (The only option I have for this tab is to show tire air pressure.)

He enabled Crawl Control and we proceeded to go.

My Opinion on Crawl Control

I am sorry but I have to call it out and state that it is a complete gimmick!! More than that it is highly annoying and the truck literally bucked forward and backwards in a highly uncomfortable manner. I get it okay, and I'm sure the first rebuttal will be "well at least it works". But I argue that it's only going to work for close to stock tire sizes and for only moderately steep climbs. I can NOT see such a system working with 35"+ tires fully loaded down and trying to get up trails say out at the Hammers. Surely the brake system will overheat long before you'd be able to finish even a couple difficult sections.

It is difficult to explain in words just how annoying Crawl Control is. I am highly looking forward to a full comparison of Toyota's Crawl Control with Marlin Crawler's TacoBox Dual Case setup. The TacoBox is so far and away better than the Crawl Control they shouldn't even be in the same sentence. It will be an entertaining video I'm sure.

Fins & Things has a few nice steep climbs. Moab slickrock traction combined with the Marlin Crawler meant that my Auto LSD was not used at all the entire day. I never got stuck and never had the LSD system kick in. The few times I lost forward progress were simply remedied by finessing the truck with the Marlin Crawler and letting the tires work and find traction. Honestly Moab is an amazing place to showcase just how much a difference the Marlin Crawler can make to my nearly stock truck.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 09, 2017, 07:37:45 PM
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Very happy I got rid of that fake hood scoop

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Thanks to the Marlin Crawler, my engine compression braking has been amplified by a factor of nearly 5 so I never have to touch my brakes no matter how steep or how large the drop-off is. Just focus on driving and let the low gearing hold the truck back naturally and calmly.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 09, 2017, 07:44:46 PM
May 4, 2017: Fins & Things (continued)

Thank you Rob Meredith from Facebook for the following pic

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First time Rock Crawling and the 2GR-FKS

Ok guys! By this time we were a couple hours into the trail and I had a firm opinion on the new 3.5-liter engine and Rock Crawling.

I am extremely pleased to report that this engine is the best, low-RPM lugging engine I've ever experienced. I can get the truck moving so slow and steady at approximately 250 RPM and it not only won't stall but it doesn't even shake -- it is entirely smooth at sub-400 RPM engine speeds for as long as needed. I was most impressed by this!! All I have to do is take a slightly steeper line and not give any gas and let the weight of the truck load the engine down for a continuous & steady low engine speed. This is the control I've been preaching about when you install a Marlin Crawler.

For comparison my Hilux's 2.7-liter 3RZ-FE can lug down to and sustain about 350-400 RPM before it gives up the ghost, but at this RPM it is shaking and rattling quite badly. The new 3.5 V6 is extremely impressive. A 6-cyl engine has a power stroke 30 fewer degrees of crankshaft rotation compared to a 4-cyl, but no doubt progress in modern engine's Noise Vibration Harshness (NVH) is really shining here with the 2GR.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 09, 2017, 07:45:21 PM
Pics from Mrs Crawler's camera ....and her strange hue setting

The Tacoma following The Legend

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I thought I would use this shot to mock-up a new windshield sticker. It should be finished any day now :D

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First time ever wheel'n with All Terrains and I was impressed. They hook up very well here in Moab. I thought they were grabbing better than Marlin's IROKs, which are probably better suited for lose rocky terrain.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 09, 2017, 07:45:51 PM
May 4, 2017: Fins & Things (continued)

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Stopping for lunch.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 09, 2017, 07:46:08 PM
I like the concerned girl looking up at my truck lol

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Cool pic with Mr Crawler

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With the front suspension loaded it seems the axle could have been designed forward a bit. No wonder 2nd and now 3rd gens have front tire to body mount interference

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Got my very first low oil pressure warning light! Too cool!

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And that was it for Fins & Things!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 10, 2017, 07:51:46 AM
May 4, 2017: Vendor Night

Back in camp while setting up for the Vendor show Marlin and I helped a FJ40 who was having alternator issues. This doesn't exactly count as a rescue but I was proud of my little baby boy Tacoma :)

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Ready to setup and meet a ton of people!

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It was so cool having my World's First Dual Case'd 3rd Gen Tacoma in our booth.

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Feeling better and better for the future of this Tacoma!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 10, 2017, 07:53:08 AM
May 5, 2017: Flat Iron Mesa

Friday morning we ran Flat Iron Mesa. The event has a Trail Rating system that I forgot to mention. The prior day's trail, Fins & Things, is rated a 4 out of 10 and Flat Iron Mesa is rated a 5/10. Like the day before, I had never wheeled Flat Iron Mesa so I was eager to check it out. After gaining a lot of confidence from the TacoBox, I was eager for something more difficult.

Amazing weather, amazing turnout, gonna be another amazing day out wheel'n!

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There is about a 20 min drive out of town for this trail. Here I am cruising on the highway with my nice 12 PSI tire warning lights on

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 10, 2017, 07:53:42 AM
The trail started out pretty mellow

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Nice views here and there

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After a while we finally got into some slickrock

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 10, 2017, 07:54:10 AM
May 5, 2017: Flat Iron Mesa (continued)

This was a tough line because you drop in from a sharp right turn. The reduced driver visibility of the Tacoma not helping here.

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It was fate that brought these two AccessCabs together and fate both registered for the same two back-to-back trails :D

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This was a nice little climb. I struggled at first but then found my footing by Crawling it very slowly in Dual low range.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 10, 2017, 07:55:11 AM
On this drop off I was super tempted to run it hard driver because I love how the Crawler holds the vehicle back without using the brakes.

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But because I'm still open-open, if one tire on each axle is able to unload, then you can still slide forward despite the engine maintaining a steady idle in gear.

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That factor combined with the fact the front bumper sticks out a mile concerned me enough to stay a bit passenger.

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It ended up being a very basic drop-off.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 10, 2017, 07:55:30 AM
May 5, 2017: Flat Iron Mesa (continued)

This climb was pretty gnarly for open-open. I could have taken a simple dirt-road line to the far right but took the hard line up the middle.

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I couldn't climb it without lockers so I shifted the T/Case in High Range and the TacoBox (Crawl Box) into Low to use our 4.7:1 T/Case ratio, and in 8th gear (2nd gear + single 4.70) I was able to get enough tire speed to trigger the Auto-LSD computer. This was the first time using the Auto-LSD. It did it's job, only had to bounce a few times and once I felt traction I let up in a smooth enough fashion to not lose forward momentum and was able to do the rest with just the single Marlin Crawler Crawl Box. Having lower than stock gearing seemed to help here.

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This spot however was pretty nasty and I learned something I never knew before.

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Because Auto-LSD worked well above, I decided to run the same gear here: 8th gear with my Marlin Crawler in Low and T/Case in 4-High. It was a struggle. I revved the crap out of the truck and was spinning the tires so much that I was literally getting white smoke from my tires. (Such a dumb system Toyota.) Our Trail Leader was spotting me and he asked what gear I was in.

Rear tire stuffs nicely.

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According to our trail leader, whose 200-series Land Cruiser is equipped with ATRAC, the computer runs a more aggressive VVT-i programming in Low Range. (I am very curious to know if this is true for the Auto-LSD system.)

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So I shifted out of the Marlin Crawler and put the T/C into Low Range and grabbed 11th gear (2nd gear + stock t/case). It still was not a pretty sight and at a higher final drive ratio I had more tire smoke and more bouncing. I probably should have given up but the Trail Leader was excited to see me make it and gave me the go ahead to keep trying

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Whew! Finally made it! Sorry slickrock and sorry BFG tires. Man oh man this is so not my style of wheeling. I won't go out again without getting the ARBs plumbed in that's for dang sure.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 10, 2017, 07:56:24 AM
Next there was an optional long steady, sort of a narrow v-grove climb that lead up to a steep and nasty ledge/waterfall. At the base of the waterfall there was a ditch-out route so I went up as high as I could and then bailed. A few people in our group tried the waterfall and only one guy made it. I'd love to return here next year and give it a go!

Here I am near the top of the v-grove section.

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Here is a pic of Marlin in the Crawler Truck approaching the waterfall. Marlin couldn't get up it despite multiple attempts. I think his tires were over inflated for this sort of obstacle plus he carries by far more dead weight recovery equipment than anyone I know. I'll have to conquer it next year in the Taco for him ;)

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Stopping for lunch

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Nice day for some wheel'n!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 10, 2017, 07:56:45 AM
May 5, 2017: Flat Iron Mesa (continued)

At this point it was already close to 3pm and I had a mission that I was on and needed to get up to northern Utah for business. So a few of us took a fireroad back to the highway (including Marlin who needed to get back for the annual Raffle).

Man I jammed down that fire road. I almost hit redline in 6th gear stock low range a few times. When you open up this V6 and rev it out it's no joke; That sucka can move.

Here we are airing back up. I am using ARB's new Maximum twin-compressor which works "decently well". It isn't as good as a York and certainly not as good as a RV2 (which I've got mounted to my 3RZ in my Hilux). But for an electric compressor it did well for my lil 33" tires. (I'll be installing a similar setup with an under-the-bed aluminum air tank for on-board air + ARBs.)

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Love that Moab red dust!

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And that was it for me and Cruise Moab 2017!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 10, 2017, 07:57:11 AM
May 5, 2017: Road trip up to northern Utah

Back at camp loaded up and ready to take off

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This truck is such a delight to drive on the open road

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I hit 10K miles! I'd normally be very excited but... man an entire year passed and it hit me that after such a strong start I only put in 10K my first year. I got a lot of catching up to do :D

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 300k on Jun 10, 2017, 12:23:09 PM
well that looks like fun. I don't think I'd make it the 500 miles in my truck, this truck generally keeps it to 500 miles a year.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 11, 2017, 06:44:15 AM
May 15, 2017: Rubicon Preparation I

After Cruise Moab it was time to get serious. Thinking of what I'd like to get done before Rubithon (http://rubithon.com), which has been postponed to the 3rd weekend of July thanks to an excellent amount of snow this year, I decided to get the most time consuming item checked off the list first. :)

On the road again!

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This time heading to a customer's house who is a good family friend of ours and incredibly gifted with auto body and paint. He has built some of the cleanest rigs I've ever seen and has a great attention to detail, something Marlin and subsequently myself pride ourselves on. I can do many things well mechanical but I'm not so good when it comes to body repair or finishing. I leave that to the professionals and this customer is certainly as professional as they come!

Finally arrived!

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Hmmm that looks pretty good :D

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Brendan on Jun 11, 2017, 07:06:50 PM
I like Mrs. Crawler's camera results.  It has the nostalgic 70s and 80s Polaroid and everyday person's 35mm camera look.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 11, 2017, 08:49:09 PM
May 18, 2017: Rubicon Preparation I: Bobbing the bed (continued)

The man I have doing the bob is also named Bob ;) and three days later Bob (and his son helping) got to work on bobbing the bed!

First step was to remove the bedsides. I think it's pretty neat how the bed is designed in this respect.

Most trim and misc parts removed from bed

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Bob had to move the bed back to access front bolts

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 11, 2017, 08:51:14 PM
May 22, 2017: Rubicon Preparation I: Bobbing the bed (continued)

Because I'll immediately drive the truck home, I'll need my rear license plate. One option is to place it in the back window but beings I'll need to do some custom work to the rear bumper anyway, Bob had the good idea of just leaving the frame at it's original length with the rear bumper attached for the drive home. It'll surely look funny but that is a great idea. Now I'll be able to modify the frame on my own and also know what modifications will be needed with whatever aftermarket rear bumper I go with.

So a few days later Bob sent me these pics of how they will trim the bottom trailing edge of the SMC bed (sheet-molded composite) to clear the frame rails.

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May 23, 2017: Rubicon Preparation I: Bobbing the bed (continued)

The next day they had the bed sides off

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Very cool!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: John Doe on Jun 11, 2017, 09:09:27 PM
I don't know that ive seen a bobbed 2nd or 3rd gen taco yet.

How much is being taken out?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Jun 12, 2017, 09:23:05 AM
thats one this the body techs love at my shop, is being able to unbolt the body sides. its a very time saving convenience that more manufacturers should follow. that said, i'm very excited to keep seeing you modify and wheel the heck out of it.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 4RunnerKid on Jun 12, 2017, 05:20:43 PM
awesome to see Bob and Russ helping with the build, excited to see how it turns out. they definitely know what they're doing and are two of the best guys i know :thumbs:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Jun 12, 2017, 10:46:57 PM
Don't take this the wrong way, but if I have this right you bought a long bed version and now you are cutting the bed to make it a short bed version. Maybe  :headscratch: there is more to bobbing the bed then making it shorter :dunno:.

Anyways truck is looking nice.. My build thread will be up in a bit.. not as pic and mod heavy as yours but hey we are building for different uses. 

Posted a whole thread on a trailer with a 12 inch lift and didn't get a single post or even a view last time I looked. :-\
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 13, 2017, 07:44:55 AM
awesome to see Bob and Russ helping with the build, excited to see how it turns out. they definitely know what they're doing and are two of the best guys i know :thumbs:
Completely agree on all accounts. The fact I dropped off my Tacoma and drove away without worrying speaks volumes. I can't count on one hand how many people I would do that with.

Don't take this the wrong way, but if I have this right you bought a long bed version and now you are cutting the bed to make it a short bed version.
Thanks for the comment. :thumbs: This is true, but I also have the added storage space of the Extra (Access) Cab.

Regarding bobbing in general, we did it to Marlin's truck as well as cropped the lower section of the bed. So the Crawler Truck has a tremendously better departure angle than my Hilux and I've always wanted to improve this aspect of my Hilux.....I just never got around to it. As discussed on page 1 I also was going to extend my 1st gen cab into an Extra Cab. The Tacoma got me the Extra Cab I've always wanted, and now I'd like to improve the departure angle. My original plan was to do this last year and even originally contacted Bob about it then.....but of course I wasn't able to get much anything done last year. While packing for my first true wheel'n trip for Moab (page 11, reply #316 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.0;message=1142410)), compared to my Hilux I have more room in the bed plus while also not even utilizing my new "Extra Cab" storage.

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The intent with the Tacoma is not to go as extreme as possible. After all why then am I also not dovetailing it. I'm just looking to take half a foot out or so. Not sure. We'll see how it goes. But even 6 to 10 inches makes a massive difference on a lot of obstacles so I know I'll be happy with the results no matter what.

My build thread will be up in a bit
Cool! I'll definitely subscribe to it :yesnod:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: H8PVMNT on Jun 13, 2017, 08:55:34 AM
Yeah!  Cut that thing up!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 13, 2017, 08:55:54 AM
When considering the bed bob, I could see two options.

The traditional bed bod is where the sky's the limit: You can bob as much as you'd like from the back of the wheel well to the front leading edge of the tail gate, and crop up from the bottom (dark blue lines / removing the side marker light) to gain more ground clearance:

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So you can get a good 24-inches removed with a Hilux. With the Tacoma we can see it's not as straight forward...

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I'm also not looking to alter the original design of the bed. I really like, no, I love how Toyota designed the body of the 3rd gen. I love the body line that runs up between the wheels and up again behind the rear axle. But this body line greatly limits how much meat can be removed. Not only that but the tail gate overhangs the entirety of the bedsides. So right off the back I knew I would not be able to do as big of a bob as what I'm used to seeing.

My initial solution was to make multiple angled cuts around the taillights and receding line of the trailing edge of the bedside, like so:

(Option 1)
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But then we've got the bottom of the bed to worry about (purple lines) and there is gonna be some body filler work.... meh. I dunno... Cutting clean corners and trying to align for re-weld here could be a crap ton of extra work just to get an extra 1 or 2 inches....

I left Bob with the idea that I'd like as much removed as practically as possible but without changing the nice factory body lines I love so much. Bob might very likely do a traditional, linear vertical cuts like this:

(Option 2)
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Here's all lines combined for comparison:

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After dropping the truck off and thinking about it while driving back home, I remember assuming the bob will be less than I had originally dreamed about. Having looked it over with tape and making rough measurements this was becoming plain to see. I guess if I ever really want to get crazy here then I'll just build a flat bed...........but that's not how a truck is supposed to look in my mind's eye. So in the end this will be a job of compromise, and knowing how pretty the truck is I'm sure I'll be quite okay with that :D
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: toyyota on Jun 13, 2017, 06:44:49 PM
After very careful measurements, and a lot of thought, there was a cut line for the bed sides. Next we had to make that work with the SMC inner bed, and the Thermo-plastic bed caps. Well its done now (except for rear bumper) so Big Mike can take her home.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 13, 2017, 09:00:24 PM
May 24, 2017: Rubicon Preparation I: Bobbing the bed (continued)

Two days later it was time to start the first cut!

In discussing what to do with the side storage and bed A/C power inventor plug, I informed Bob's son not to worry about them and that I will 3D print new fixtures.

As for the cut, Bob is a very meticulous man who measures not twice but four times and cuts once. After careful measuring and planning Bob settled on removing exactly 6-inches from the bed. As expected, it's not the most amount of material removed but I know for sure this will make a huge improvement off-road. Even just Rubicon alone, I can already think of a few tight turns that I almost hit the rear of my Hilux with which will be a tight fit for the longer Tacoma. One is after Buck Island before cresting above the Big Sluice, and the other is half way down the Big Sluice. As for sharp climbs and drop-offs there are plenty of those too.

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...and lobbed off! There is no turning back now! :D

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 14, 2017, 08:53:44 AM
(Good morning build thread! I'm currently working from the road and on my way to Bob's place to pick up the Tacoma! :D I've been without the truck for one month so I'm beyond excited to see it! As they would say in Kumamoto-ben, 今日私はたいぎゃしあわせです!)

May 24, 2017: Rubicon Preparation I: Bobbing the bed (continued)

Here is the back of the bed reattached for visual pleasure

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This is the original frame left as-is so we can reattach the rear bumper for my return drive home

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 14, 2017, 09:02:57 AM
May 24, 2017: Rubicon Preparation I: Bobbing the bed (continued)

I don't know much about the process of welding resin together so I will report back with full details once Bob goes over everything with me. Bob told me that the SMC bed and the top plastic covers over the bedside panels are made from a different polymer and use different processes.

In asking Bob how much more difficult this job was than a Hilux he said, "Ohh it's muuucccchhhh more difficult" Thank you Bob and Russ for all your hard work!!

Here are pics of the bed being fused together. I'll post more info such as how long this process takes to set once I learn more about it

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Clamps off!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 14, 2017, 09:03:22 AM
May 29, 2017: Rubicon Preparation I: Bobbing the bed (continued)

Four days later they had the bed off to get the center fused together

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 14, 2017, 09:05:18 AM
June 3, 2017: Rubicon Preparation I: Bobbing the bed (continued)

Five days later they started on the bed sides. Here is where the cut will be made. You can see how we are preserving the factory body line which I'm a big fan of.

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Had they removed more then it would have required a lot of body filler work to blend the prominent horizontal line down to the bottom of the fender, or bondo it up completely 1) taking away from the original Toyota design and 2) creating future issues from cracks and so forth from normal trail use.

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The top of each bedside was cut forward to preserve the rearmost mount points for the top bedside pieces.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 14, 2017, 09:06:26 AM
June 3, 2017: Rubicon Preparation I: Bobbing the bed (continued)

The first test fit!! I LOVE IT! I'll be making measurements but it appears that the wheel wells are now perfectly centered in the bed! This is how Toyota should have done it in the first place. Maybe they could have offered a short bed version of the Access Cab that could have looked just like this

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<3

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So this was back at the beginning of the month. Next the bedsides were painted (so far I don't have any pics of that) and Bob mentioned the bedside top plastic parts requiring a special type of molding/fusing process so he had to schedule an appointment and take those to a shop.

Two weeks later and now it is June 14 and I am officially 100% caught up with this thread for the first time in more than a year! I will be to Bob's house in about 45 more mins and will be posting up the final result later today!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Jun 14, 2017, 09:12:54 AM
whats cool, is only a trained eye will catch that bed cut. dig it!!! and yes those beds are a trip as far as construction. If I'm not mistaken the previous body style 13-15 in particular (which has the same bed cubicle and power receptacle) uses the same bed construction (I know the bedsides are the same mounting style, BOLT ON! :woohoo:)
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 92runna on Jun 14, 2017, 09:45:35 AM
I'm over here refreshing the page, lol. Awesome progress so far!  :clap:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Jun 15, 2017, 05:01:45 PM
Truck is looking good.

Got a question about using a solenoid to shift the T/C and taco box.  Since you are worried ( maybe not all that worried) about the solenoid failing because of it being exposed under the body, could you not just mount it above the floor inside the cab and under the consol?  If it ever did fail you could just reach under the back and move the shorten shift lever by hand.

That is what I was planning to do. Using a two way air solenoid and temporary applying air to it to shift the lever.
Applied to the front of the solenoid and the lever moves back, then air pressure is removed and the lever simple sits in the rearward postion. Just like you had moved it back by hand and then let go of the shift lever.  Shift the lever forward by appling air to the rear of the solenoid.  Just a basic push/pull solenoid with enough travel to move the shift fork and insure that there is complete engagement between gears in both positions.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: R.DesJardin on Jun 15, 2017, 06:39:25 PM
Looks good Mike. I did the same with mine bob on my 83, ~10.5" right up to the frame more or less. It keeps it looking clean. So what's next............back to the shop for triples?????? High clearance A-arms????? Well?????
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 18, 2017, 06:34:28 PM
Truck is looking good.

Looks good Mike.
Thank you Gentleman!

Got a question about using a solenoid to shift the T/C and taco box.  Since you are worried ( maybe not all that worried) about the solenoid failing because of it being exposed under the body, could you not just mount it above the floor inside the cab and under the consol?  If it ever did fail you could just reach under the back and move the shorten shift lever by hand.
The solenoid operates the two shift rods of the transfer case so it requires a physical connection. Remotely mounting it won't be possible.

To be honest I am just not a fan of air shifters. I'm not a fan of any-anything except for airing my tires back up. Solenoids can get stop working, can have air leaks, still requires wiring. For these reasons I am not a fan of ARBs.

Maybe if I saw a really clean, functional, reliable air shifter setup then I'll change my opinion. But for us as a company, having a on-board air should not be a requirement of our Dual Case setup. As an optional upgrade, maybe. Cable will be the way to do this as a standard component of the TacoBox.

So what's next............back to the shop for triples?????? High clearance A-arms????? Well?????
Lol Time is the one thing I cannot purchase and always have a shortage of. I am constantly restructuring my duties in order to gain more and more time for this project. Triples are scheduled for later this winter :thumbs:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 18, 2017, 06:36:55 PM
I've had the Tacoma back for a few days and holy smokes they did the most professional bed bob I've ever seen @_@.

Bob gave me a few more pictures while over there so here they come!

On June 5th the bedsides got prepped for paint

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Here you can see how the cut went up and forward along the top of each bedside in order to retain the proper aligning dowel slot and snap-clips for the upper plastic panel.

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On June 9 they were painted! Toyota placed a barcode tag on the inside of each panel that contains information of the truck's paint code. The painter was able to get the exact matching factory paint :D

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 18, 2017, 06:39:28 PM
On June 13 they finished the final step which was welding the plastic panels that mount atop each bedside. Bob couldn't do this at home as the bedtops are made from a different, non fusible type of plastic.

Here is another pic of the bedside top section. At left you can see the original top plastic panel attached.

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This shows the 6" of overlap which was very carefully removed so that all remaining snap-clips will fit their respective bedside slot

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Preparing for the welder

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Here is the welder used

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...and that's it for Bob's extra pictures! :D
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 18, 2017, 06:40:04 PM
June 14, 2017: Rubicon Preparation I: Bobbing the bed (concluded!)

When I arrived at Bob's house he had washed my truck -- including even the engine compartment! I cannot thank you enough Bob for this amazing work!!

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My first pics of the bobbed bedsides!

Driver

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It may seem that one could get another 10-something inches removed, but in actual fact there is only 2 inches remaining until you run into the leaf spring shackle hanger bracket ....and had that other 2-inches been removed then the lower body curve would not flow or match the front bed curve and body/cab curves. You'd almost need to make the decision to just remove the curve all together which I'm glad Bob did not do.

Passenger

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Speakings of which, remember the mystery paint missing from my passenger bed side (documented @ reply #253 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.0;message=1141618))? We got two birds killed here :D

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 18, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Time to get this baby reassembled!

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Bob kept everything meticulously organized!

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Here is a piece of the plastic welding rod and the pair of 6" sections removed from each bedside top panel.

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There are a ton of snap-clips for each bedside top panel

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Here is the most noticeable indicator of a modification

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Not only did Bob have to ensure the snap-clips will line back up, but the plastic upper panels start wide and taper narrow moving forward as shown here

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 18, 2017, 06:41:41 PM
Here is the bobbed line inside the bed

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(As for the prior bed side storage/utility boxes, I will 3D print new pieces with the goal to get it looking as factory as I can. Until I get time for this I'll just print flat panels to cover both boxes up)

This turned out really, really nice. The material of the bed is able to be fused (as apposed to the bedside tops which had to be plastic-welded) which is why they could get such a nice finish here

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On older Hilux sheet-metal beds, it is common to add material to the back and underside at the bob seam for added strength. So Bob and Russ took the 6" section that was cut out from the bed and fused it underneath. They also added perpendicular gussets using leftover bed material. The work was incredible and the bed is very strong. I jumped up and down hard on it and it didn't give at all. Another plus is that the back four bed mount bolts are now closer to each other so if anything it is even more rigid than factory!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 18, 2017, 06:42:16 PM
A few reassembly photos...

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Bob is so detailed that he places unused wires (this being my bed A/C power outlet plug) inside ziplock bags, zipties them shut, and then zipties the whole ensemble under the bed safe and sound.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 18, 2017, 06:42:57 PM
Fender flare reassembly. Each flare is attached using 10 plastic snap-clips as well as double-sided sticky tape. Bob removed the original tape (it looked like a lot of work!)...

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...and here I carefully attached new tape

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Snap-clips reattached and ready to go! The trio of orange clips are longer to help guide installation

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Installation was extremely easy. Just carefully align and place over the bedside and press firmly over each clip region for a nice firm snap.

(picture taken before I had removed the red sticky tape backing)

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 18, 2017, 06:44:15 PM
Looking great! Time to get the bumper reattached and then I'll be good to go!

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When we went to put the bumper on we discovered it interfered with the new position of the back of the bed. Not wanting to modify my bed and knowing I'll be modifying the bumper bracket, Russ did some bracket clearancing so we could get the bumper back on for my drive home.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 18, 2017, 06:44:50 PM
Finally all done!!

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So what do you guys think?!

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Here is how far back the original position is:

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jun 18, 2017, 06:45:33 PM
On the way home Bob took me over to his shop to meet the two gentlemen who worked on my bedsides. To the left is Ray, who did the paint prep, and at middle is Brian who did the painting. It was really a neat treat to meet the entire group who helped make this project come to life!

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One last shot before jumping on the freeway for home

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Made it home safely! Here is one last shot for the day out in front of Rock Crawling World Head Quarters:

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: toyyota on Jun 18, 2017, 07:13:37 PM
WOW Mike. Nice project.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Lewis Hein on Jun 18, 2017, 07:42:54 PM
So how much bed length have you got now? 4 feet?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: fordh8r on Jun 19, 2017, 07:16:35 AM
Def one of the cleanest bed bobs I've seen to date. I love it when someone takes the time to address even the smallest details when as a  whole they make the biggest difference in the outcome of the project. Nicely done guys!  :clap2: :bowdown: :smokin: :beerchug:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Jun 19, 2017, 10:01:48 AM
youre departure angle, you can see it even without a new bumper, has changed DRASTICALLY! WTG!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: R.DesJardin on Jun 19, 2017, 04:15:55 PM
Def one of the cleanest bed bobs I've seen to date. I love it when someone takes the time to address even the smallest details when as a  whole they make the biggest difference in the outcome of the project. Nicely done guys!  :clap2: :bowdown: :smokin: :beerchug:

Well yeah, done by a body shop(looks awesome).....I still think mine is the cleanest home done one.  :gap: But then if I didn't think mine was cool, well that would be silly.  :shades:
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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Slabzilla on Jun 19, 2017, 07:45:40 PM
They did a Killer job on that bob, you'd almost think it was a factory bed. Kudos to the skills involved in that transformation. Your departure angle is awesome, lose that log of a rear bumper and she'll be perfect in her proportions, front to rear. The bob make her symetrical in visual weight.   :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 300k on Jun 19, 2017, 09:06:47 PM
I still think mine is the cleanest home done one.

Sorry Rory, I think I have you beat by a mile :rofl:

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and for the record, I had NOTHING to do with that. it was the previous owners work...and best part? He bobbed so much that the tailgate doesn't clear the frame rails, so it has to be on lift blocks while the body is on the frame. Sorry for posting my garbage on your thread, mike :)
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: fordh8r on Jun 20, 2017, 07:33:11 AM
Well yeah, done by a body shop(looks awesome).....I still think mine is the cleanest home done one.  :gap: But then if I didn't think mine was cool, well that would be silly.  :shades:
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I'm certainly not bagging on anyone's home brew job if it's worthy of being categorized in my previous statement.   :bowdown: It's just there are so many other "Bobbed" beds out there that are so unfinished looking that I'm tired of seeing it. Work like that is not inspiring for anyone to want to try doing it themselves. I'm no body man to want to tackle a sheetmetal job like this but it doesn't scare me to try when I see a very nicely done job. In fact, it challenges me to want to do such a job now that the standard is high enough for me to want to accept that challenge and try to meet that standard of build.  :beerchug:  BTW, home brew bed bob...Well done, Sir!  :clap2:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: H8PVMNT on Jun 20, 2017, 07:53:49 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BUDDERS on Jun 20, 2017, 11:24:56 PM
I love the bed bob Mike.  Now I'm curious what the new bumper will look like.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 92runna on Jun 21, 2017, 09:54:05 AM
Hey mike, does bob have any experience bobbing 4runners? :willynilly:  :yupyup:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: havik on Jun 22, 2017, 01:48:48 PM
cut the rear quarters and get a tucked up wrap around bumper
plate would look best with the new body style

cutting the rear quarters will create great clearance on the sides and give better appearace with a wrap around bumper
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: dropzone on Jun 25, 2017, 09:25:20 AM
They did a great job on your truck, way more involved than i expected.

Bobbing the bed on my trekker was pretty straight forward with the fiberglass bed, getting the top bobbed was a PITA.

Looking forward to see what you come up with for  the bumper
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jul 08, 2017, 10:38:54 AM
Hellllllo Crawler Land!

I'm a bit behind with updates. Been very busy over here ;) ;) ;)

June 19, 2017: Drilled new bumper holes in frame

Here is 6-inches of the frame to be removed

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Here are the 5 bumper bolt holes I need to move forward on each side of the frame

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The first two will just b-a-r-e-l-y make it

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But the rear-most frame and lower attaching bracket would be moving waaay too far forward

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One thing which was amazing is that the lower attaching bracket has two dowels that align it in the frame, and they are almost exactly 6-inches apart! So what I'll do for the lower attaching bracket is just slice it in half and use one bolt.

The result will be 3 bolts per side instead of 5. For now this is perfectly acceptable. I don't plan on towing anything for a while, and once I purchase a rear bumper I like (haven't found one yet) or build my own rear bumper, I'll either add an extra hole or use stitch welding. (For reference our old Marlin Crawler Hilux tube/Rock Crawling rear bumpers attach with 4 bolts per side.)

So I'll be drilling two new holes into the side of the frame and one new hole along the bottom for the lower attaching bracket.

Let the drilling begin!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jul 08, 2017, 10:40:25 AM
June 26, 2017: Bed Bob Finished!

It would be another week until I could work on the Taco. With the holes drilled it was long overdue to get this project wrapped up!

Bumper off, preparing to cut the frame

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Decided to use our plasma cutter. Here is a pic before grinding it down and quickly spray painting

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Then we cut the bumper brackets (sorry I never took any pictures of this). We cut each bracket so that only the rear-most three bolt holes remain. The lower front hole of these three had to be slotted due to it mounting flush against the leaf spring shackle hanger bracket.

With both frame and bumper brackets cut, it was time to test fit....

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...and install!

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But holy crap that was very difficult!! The Bumper brackets are tapered outward such that they are pulled into the frame as the bolts are tightened. This meant the bumper itself was tapered, so when we cut the bumper bracket shorter, now the bumper was no longer wide enough to fit over the outside of each frame rail.

It took a loooooooooooooooooooot of hammering to get the shorter brackets spread for the frame. We even considered heating up each bracket with a torch but I didn't want to weaken the steel nor risk damage to the plastic and electronics in the bumper.

I am very pleased with the final outcome!

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Additional note is that the spare tire no longer fits under the bed: The trailer hitch has been moved so far back that it contacts the spare. Not much of a surprise plus 1) I'll eventually get a lower profile rear bumper with more under the bed spacer, 2) I'll be moving up to larger tires soon and probably won't be able to carry a large enough spare under there anyhow, 3) future rear suspension plans will interfere with the spare anyhow, and 3) it gives me a ton of space for my under-the-bed on-board air setup.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jul 08, 2017, 10:43:06 AM
June 26, 2017: Bed Bob Finished! (continued)

I've been working so fast on projects that for the most part I've been slacking in the department of before-and-after specs/measurements. So I made sure to get this covered this time around :)

Before and after! I've gained an entire line on the camera

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jul 08, 2017, 10:49:07 AM
June 26, 2017: Bed Bob Finished! (continued)

Departure Angle comparison

The setup...

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From rear tire contact point to bottom of trailer hitch

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Before:

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25.9 degrees departure angle

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After:

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30.5 degrees. Picked up 4.6 degrees which is really good!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: toyyota on Jul 08, 2017, 01:59:16 PM
Nice job on the rear bumper. Fit looks perfect.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Slabzilla on Jul 08, 2017, 04:57:00 PM
Nothing like breaking out the old BFH Wrench to get that perfect fit, nice job Mike.
 :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jul 11, 2017, 11:16:31 AM
June 21, 2017 (continued): New Stickers!

That same evening I got some new stickers installed :D

First was my windshield sticker that I had mocked up about a month ago: "World's First Dual Ultimate 3(rd) Gen Tacoma"

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Quick Q&A

Question: Dual?
Answer:
A Dual Case setup is where you've added an additional stock low range gear set to your truck (2.28:1 Hilux ratio). The term "Dual Transfer case" is tossed around but we don't have two t/cases, rather a total of two low range gear sets. It looks like this: Engine > Transmission > Low Range #1 (inside of the Marlin Crawler) > Low Range #2 (inside of your Transfer case) > Ring & Pinion.

Question: Dual Ultimate?
Answer:
A "Dual Ultimate" is when you have one stock low range gear set (in my t/case: 2.57:1) but you've upgraded to our 4.70:1 Total-Spline Chromoly low range gear set (in my Marlin Crawler). The name comes from what Marlin believes is "the Ultimate gear ratio", which, based on drivetrain and R&P, falls in the 200-250:1 range for manual trucks and 140-170:1 for automatic trucks. The name was created by Marlin and is used to describe the best of our products.

Question: Isnt't there something called a TacoBox?
Answer:
A TacoBox is what Marlin invented in 2001 when he built the world's first Tacoma dual transfer case setup. Back in the 1990s we had a Dual T/Case setup for Land Cruisers that we called a "ToyBox", so "TacoBox" was the natural progression from there. As some 4Runners, T100s, Tundras, and FJ Cruisers share the same bolt pattern as the Tacoma (what the TacoBox was originally designed for), we still call it a TacoBox. We have many TacoBoxes running around in Toyota models other than Tacomas.

Question: What about a TacoBox Supreme?
Answer:
A TacoBox Supreme is simply a TacoBox fitted with our 4.70:1 low range gears. This is synonymous with the above "Dual Ultimate" and is the Ultimate setup for a Tacoma. The origin of this term is easy to guess: I used to love Burrito Supremes from TacoBell and that's where we got the name from!

Good Question: Why does my windshield sticker read "Dual Ultimate" instead of "TacoBox Supreme"?
Answer:
I plan to make a vehicle wrap for the Tacoma which will include TacoBox Supreme. This way I've got both bases covered, plus anyone from the older truck market who is considering a new Tacoma would be comforted to know that a Tacoma Dual Ultimate exists.

Last Question: Where the hell is my apostrophe??

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Not only 1) was I missing the apostrophe, but 2) the sticker was not slightly curved as requested, and 3) we've ordered windshield stickers before and they are never in sections like this...

Well, I guess one nice thing about the sections is that it was easier to angle the sticker around the curve of the body

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In the end I think it turned out okay. (p.s. from the future: I've already notified our sticker guy and he is sending me the missing apostrophe.)

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And lastly I made this flip'n sweet sticker for the back window. I've always wanted something like this on my 1981 Hilux (I made one for it also, "36 speed / 511:1") so I was excited to get this on the Tacoma. I made it 7-inches tall but after applying it I was thinking 8" or 9" tall would be a better fit. I also ordered an eBay sticker indicating I'm driving a manual equipped truck but at this time it still had not shown up.

I've always wanted to make stickers like these for all our customers... Have a text field on our website or an easy to use calculator where you can enter in your truck's details and then we have a sticker made, but making this die-cut sticker one-at-a time cost just over $20... per sticker!

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At this point my truck was look'n pretty good to hit another trail which was a good thing because two days later I returned to Bald Mountain!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Jul 11, 2017, 11:30:56 AM
make a poll to see what the majority of people have for crawl ratios and setups.. and then you could order stickers in bulk for the ratios/gear count for the majority, say 5 setups and see how they sell. dig the stickers man
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: blackdiamond on Jul 11, 2017, 11:41:48 AM
Question: Dual Ultimate?
Answer:
A "Dual Ultimate" is when you have one stock low range gear set (in my t/case: 2.57:1) but you've upgraded to our 4.70:1 Total-Spline Chromoly low range gear set in your Marlin Crawler. The name comes from what Marlin believes is "the Ultimate gear ratio", which, based on drivetrain and R&P, falls in the 200-250:1 range for manual trucks and 140-170:1 for automatic trucks. Please note the name only refers to a Marlin Crawler setup because otherwise it wouldn't be "the ultimate" (two of our competitors use particularly weak components and this is why you never, ever, ever see Triple setups coming from them) (my Tacoma will get triples this winter).

I think this definition is revoking the "Dual Ultimate" status of many of your customers.  Has the 4.70:1 gear set always been Total-Spline and Chromoly?   MY 4.70:1 rear transfer case was built by Marlin Crawler back in 2002 or 2003, I think.  I tell people that I have "Dual-Ultimate" gearing because I have an Inchworm crawl box mated to a Marlin Crawler built 4.70:1 transfer case.



Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: H8PVMNT on Jul 11, 2017, 12:11:30 PM
Man it's really looking good.  It is a comfort to know you are making it possible to use these new trucks with good gearing.  I don't think I would have wasted any time making the stock bumper fit back on.  Kind of fun to run it though because people will really have to look hard to figure out what happened to the back of your bed since it looks so factory trimmed.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jul 11, 2017, 02:40:42 PM
make a poll to see what the majority of people have for crawl ratios and setups.. and then you could order stickers in bulk for the ratios/gear count for the majority, say 5 setups and see how they sell. dig the stickers man
We've talked about this but we feel it's gonna open up a big can of worms due to how many different ratios there can be. Especially with people moving the 1st gen Tacomas and newer 4Runners there are a ton of variances in final drive ratios...

I think this definition is revoking the "Dual Ultimate" status of many of your customers.  Has the 4.70:1 gear set always been Total-Spline and Chromoly?   MY 4.70:1 rear transfer case was built by Marlin Crawler back in 2002 or 2003, I think.  I tell people that I have "Dual-Ultimate" gearing because I have an Inchworm crawl box mated to a Marlin Crawler built 4.70:1 transfer case.
Hey Jon, thank you for the reply & keeping me focused. You are right that gears prior to 1999 were not Total Spline and further Dual Case adapters prior to 1997 were not double-roller yet we still called them the Ultimate. I revised my sentence and removed the trailing part. I haven't spoken out like that in a while. I'm still trying to get past the chip on my shoulder that Toyota used our own word to describe the low range feature of the automatic trucks (Crawl Control). If only Marlin had trademarked these things. Then we've got a competitor across town claiming they are selling Crawl Boxes. I argue that they sell Dual Case Units, not Crawl Boxes. Crawl is a term derived from our company's name that we should have legally reserved way back in the day...

I don't think I would have wasted any time making the stock bumper fit back on.
You make a good point but while I have found at least one front aftermarket bumper I like I have not found any rear aftermarket bumpers I like. I'm expecting to run the factory rear bumper for a while, maybe until even I build my own and we resume our bumper product line. :dunno:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Jul 11, 2017, 05:35:52 PM
how long till you will have a bolt on taco box ready for the 3rd gen Tacoma world, or maybe a parts kit.? :headscratch:  Seems like you have most of the bugs worked out. :thumbs: Just need the parts kits with adapters, since I have a couple VF1A T\C already.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jul 13, 2017, 11:01:50 AM
Three days later was one of our largest local summer event called Moonlight Madness, an event put on by the Clovis Independents 4WD Club (event info (https://sites.google.com/site/clovis4wheelers/moonlight-madness))

June 24, 2017: 4th Trail Run: Moonlight Madness 2017

This is my second return to Bald Mountain since first buying the truck last year (see video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fcM-FUmVbs).

I am way behind with trip reports at Marlin Crawler so again I'll have to spare everyone the details, get them posted up later once I post our official trip report.

For now please enjoy some random wheel'n pics! I'm going to be out of town and very busy for the next three weeks so I won't be able to post for a while. Hope you guys enjoy!!

The first return to the Dinky Creek Trail Status board since last year!

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Always such an awesome feeling to be back out in the forest! The smell, the cool, crips air. Love it!

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We were invited to do a Vendor Appreciation run of which there were about 10 rigs. Mine was the newest, most stock, but thanks to the Marlin Crawler was quite capable.

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The confident feeling you get when you have the World Famous "Crawler Truck" in your group is so impressive. To know that no matter what happens, no matter what brakes, you've got one of the best trail recovery vehicles on the planet.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jul 13, 2017, 11:27:26 AM
how long till you will have a bolt on taco box ready for the 3rd gen Tacoma world, or maybe a parts kit.? :headscratch:  Seems like you have most of the bugs worked out. :thumbs: Just need the parts kits with adapters, since I have a couple VF1A T\C already.
Yes! We have everything ready and will be taking pictures and updating our T/Case page in August :) More info is available by phone or email, sales@marlincrawler.com
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jul 13, 2017, 11:27:49 AM
June 24, 2017: 4th Trail Run: Moonlight Madness 2017 (continued)

Basic, exposed terrain of our pretty High Sierra Nevada mountains. The elevation for this trail ranges from about 6,500 to 8,000 feet.

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It wasn't long until I got a chance to REALLY APPRECIATE just how awesome the Bed Bob is!!

Check this out! The stock trailer receiver cleared without contact! (if gif doesn't load, then try this link (http://board.marlincrawler.com/images/2016-tacoma/659.gif))

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The best thing about this with a Marlin Crawler: NO BRAKES, just let the greatly magnified engine compression braking hold the truck back while idling. The Marlin Crawler ads such great vehicle control to the driver. No feet on any pedal with amazing, smooth, slow, precision Crawling.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jul 13, 2017, 11:30:02 AM
The young new kid Tacoma showing some of the older trucks how to CRAWL.

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Look ma, no hands!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Jul 13, 2017, 12:04:34 PM
very nice Mike, watching history. very impressive.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: liveoak on Jul 13, 2017, 12:13:15 PM

The best thing about this with a Marlin Crawler: NO BRAKES, just let the greatly magnified engine compression braking hold the truck back while idling. The Marlin Crawler ads such great vehicle control to the driver. No feet on any pedal with amazing, smooth, slow, precision Crawling.
My wife still can't get over the fact that I sometimes actually have to accelerate while going down a steep hill. My Marlin gears were by far the best and most noticeable off-road performance modification I've made to my truck.

Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Jul 13, 2017, 02:30:46 PM
Yes! We have everything ready and will be taking pictures and updating our T/Case page in August :) More info is available by phone or email, sales@marlincrawler.com
Guess I had better go sell a kidney or something..shipping is going to kill me.  Maybe I will have to stop by and pick one up...Preordered of course.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jul 25, 2017, 05:25:16 PM
Wassssssup guys,

Whew!! I've been quite busy the last few weeks over here. I should probably consider getting this thread updated....maybe....sometime.....possibly......たぶん。。。。いつか。。。。もしじかんがあります

:D

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Toyotadon on Jul 25, 2017, 07:51:28 PM
Wow, the Instagram feed has been teasing us, and now you're doing it here!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Willard on Jul 25, 2017, 08:28:48 PM
Are those walker evans wheels? Wow looks great. Good job on this one!!!


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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: daniresch on Jul 25, 2017, 08:56:54 PM
Are those walker evans wheels? Wow looks great. Good job on this one!!!


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I believe they are. On 37x12.5x17 BFG Krawlers.

This is my favorite picture of your rig so far Mike. Been following you on FB, hope you don't mind me sharing:
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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: H8PVMNT on Jul 26, 2017, 10:26:06 AM
Yes that is now officially badass.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 300k on Jul 26, 2017, 03:24:41 PM
looks like one of those arctic  rigs, slammed on 44s with massive flares. even kinda like the Toyota Hilux Top Gear took to the north pole.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Slabzilla on Jul 26, 2017, 05:05:34 PM
That's a Great look, Almost makes me want a Taco in my stable, too.  Righteous!   :beer:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on Jul 26, 2017, 09:41:00 PM
Where's the mud flaps so you don't get a ticket?

 :dunno:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Jul 27, 2017, 09:01:33 AM
NOW we're talkin Mike! well done.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: redneckcustoms13 on Jul 28, 2017, 04:54:30 AM
I dig it! Amazing how some non sissy tires can make all the difference in appearance.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Leonel on Aug 08, 2017, 12:07:12 PM
Hey Mike
Do you guys plan on making a diff guard for the rear axle on these trucks(8.75?)?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Leonel on Aug 08, 2017, 07:08:47 PM
Big mike
Another question, is there a solid spacer for the third generation 8.75 diff?
Leonel
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 21, 2017, 05:26:50 PM
Where's the mud flaps so you don't get a ticket?
In California if the vehicle does not come with them from factory then you don't need to install mudflaps. That said, so long as your tires don't stick out beyond your fenders you'll generally okay to lift, modify the truck without getting a ticket. I'm now beyond this point however so I will be installing mudflaps. Currently no immediate plan to do so however.

Hey Mike
Do you guys plan on making a diff guard for the rear axle on these trucks(8.75?)?
Yes.

Time to get this thread back on track!

June 24, 2017: 4th Trail Run: Moonlight Madness 2017 (continued)

Came across a few pics from Facebook. Here I am in the act of Walking The Crawler

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Pic of me filming the above video :D

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Lastly, here is a cool shot with the Crawler Truck

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 21, 2017, 05:29:17 PM
Climbing up for a nice re-group photo

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I love getting out of the city and the Tacoma is making this so much more comfortable

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Whooops hahahaha Did this somewhere. Looking forward to tossing these wheels soooooon *Hint: You guys still don't know what I've got going on ;) ;)

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Back in 1979 when Toyota introduced the 4WD Hilux it was marketed as the Son of the Land Cruiser. Do you guys think the Tacoma should be marketed as "The Son of the Hilux"?

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 21, 2017, 05:30:07 PM
June 24, 2017: 4th Trail Run: Moonlight Madness 2017 (continued)

Next we headed over to a popular obstacle known as V Rock. The hardest line is to the far left (out of the photo), the standard line is up the V (visible at left), and the easy line is what I took here on the right.

Here is a nice series of me going up open-open (no lockers), just pure traction by way of very low gearing (throttle-less slow & steady static friction FTW!)

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With the Marlin Crawler TacoBox engaged you can go so slow (no throttle input, no riding the brakes) that a spotter can even rest his hands atop a tire while moving!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 21, 2017, 05:31:36 PM
Next I spun around and climbed a steep ledge to the east side of V Rock. This ledge is fun because as you move right it slowly becomes more steep. There is a point at which my 1981 Hilux will not Crawl it, even with a 511:1 reduction, but yet a long wheelbase Hilux will go right up. So I was eager to take this 20% longer Tacoma up a much steeper section than I've ever tried and that is when this happened...

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Everything was going good until the Tacoma began smoking!

So I backed down and waited for it to clear out.....which took quite a while!

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It is strange that the smoke is white. This indicates water being combusted, such as a blown head gasket. It is typical to burn oil at severe angles due to oil shifting to the back of the pan and in a way flooding the rear cylinder(s) such that the piston rings cannot prevent oil from passing into the combustion chamber.....but burning oil through an engine results in a bluish smoke. For argument sake, there is a third distinguishable smoke color and that is gray which indicates a very rich fuel mixture.

Everything on my gauges looked fine so I reattempted the climb and up she went

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I got out and checked my fluids and everything looked great. Oil was normal on the dipstick. As for future news, the next morning I checked the coolant and it was completely full in the radiator and right at the full line of the overfill reservoir. My theory is that I did burn some oil -- not enough to be noticed at the dip stick -- but that the advanced catalyst and emissions system of this truck was able to clean up the blue color resulting in only white smoke from burnt oil? It's a head scratcher for sure...
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: blackdiamond on Aug 21, 2017, 05:39:18 PM
CrankyCrawler can teach you a thing or two about smoking (it also seems to be mostly white) in his 84 carb crawler.  He has filled Mickey's Hot Tub completely more than once.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: toyyota on Aug 21, 2017, 07:23:02 PM
Mike, Thank you for posting your new Tacoma out on the trail. Russ and I always like the updates. Time for us to get ready for your Roundup.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: liveoak on Aug 22, 2017, 09:05:53 AM
I think synthetic oil tends to burn white
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 22, 2017, 12:39:37 PM
CrankyCrawler can teach you a thing or two about smoking (it also seems to be mostly white)

I think synthetic oil tends to burn white
Hmmmm. Verrrrry interesting. I also run synthetic in my Hilux/3RZ-FE and I've had it steep enough to smoke a few times and had always thought it was the typical blue smoke...

I was also thinking the 2GR has higher compression and a highly efficient burn. Maybe also they've improved the oil rings. Maybe only a little bit got into the engine.

Mike, Thank you for posting your new Tacoma out on the trail. Russ and I always like the updates. Time for us to get ready for your Roundup.
Ohhhhh man Bob! It's gonna be one Awesome winter with you again!! CAN'T WAIT!!  :disturbed: :disturbed: :disturbed:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 22, 2017, 12:47:11 PM
June 24, 2017: 4th Trail Run: Moonlight Madness 2017 (continued)

Around the corner from V Rock is a fun climb called Hollywood Hill. I had previously demo'd the "Auto LSD" feature here a year ago (see replies 229-238 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.0;message=1141511)). Finally with the TacoBox I was ready to properly run the hill! Here is the only pic I have heading up

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Continuing on a club member took me through a pretty nasty section that I opted to back out of. 33" tires and hardly any lift isn't gonna cut it here. Pretty cool shot of the All Pro slider saving my body

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Flex is such a relative term!

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Glad I backed out. I was in a pickle. My exhaust pipe was also happy I didn't go any further. This is such a lame place for the exhaust. I've already got a nice plan to relocate it.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 22, 2017, 12:51:31 PM
Enjoying the many large exposed granite domes

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Something about this AccessCab is still really, really exciting me. So much room here compared to my Hilux!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 22, 2017, 12:52:19 PM
Finally made it to the top of Bald Mountain! This is one of many U.S.F.S. Fire Lookouts and a great place for lunch.

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Overlooking Shaver Lake, CA

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Few random pics while stopped

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Back at camp I pulled out and *finally* put on my first sticker indicating I have a superior Manual Transmission! :D

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Aug 23, 2017, 10:03:31 AM
soooo get to the good parts of when the new big 37s get put on :D
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 23, 2017, 04:25:19 PM
^ lol I'm work'n on it okay :yupyup:


Later that evening the main run for this event as you can imagine for an event called Moonlight Madness begins at dusk. I was part of the Trail Committee, providing support for the hardest obstacle known as Posi Hill.

Leaving camp

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Beautiful sunset on the way back up the trail

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Ohh yeah first time night wheel'n the Tacoma!! DUDE!! These fog/driving lights are awesome!! I get the forward light from the highly efficient LED daytime running lamps and then nice, essentially Rock Crawling nearby flood lighting courtesy of the small lower driving lights. No headlights needed--I LOVE THIS. Very, VERY nice touch with this Toyota -- Obviously not designed for this, but very cool to use it while slowly Crawl'n on the trail.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 23, 2017, 04:35:07 PM
Here we are working Posi Hill. This can be as hard as you make it. Around to the left are a couple less challenging ledges and to the far right is what many refer to as the "Buggy line": Two big ledges that are a wheelbase hole for many vehicles. It's pretty nasty to the far right.

The Crawler Truck and my Tacoma ready to provide assistance.

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There were some people definitely using too much skinny pedal resulting in some carnage. This was the only roll over pic I got, this one a UTV. There were three or four roll overs. When you don't have low enough gearing, the only option is to gun it and hope for the best. It's unfortunate.

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There were lulls from time to time when we'd be waiting for different run groups to make their way to Posi. During one of these lulls I decided to give it a go in the Tacoma: Attempt Posi Hill on the left side without having any posi lockers!!!


After I made it up this diesel-powered military Hummer came up to attempt the same line. He was also open-open....and....he....failed....over....and....over....again....and....again! He must have tried for a solid 10 mins. He then turned around and left the area and people came over to me very impressed how my Tacoma was able to make it up. :D MAN I love my Marlin Crawler!!!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: redneckcustoms13 on Aug 23, 2017, 04:38:54 PM
I belive his first fail was buying a hummer, 2nd putting gangster wheels on a hummer, 3rd attempting to follow a Toyota.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 23, 2017, 04:51:14 PM
I belive his first fail was buying a hummer, 2nd putting gangster wheels on a hummer, 3rd attempting to follow a Toyota.
:talkingn:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: blackdiamond on Aug 23, 2017, 05:08:29 PM
I belive his first fail was buying a hummer, 2nd putting gangster wheels on a hummer, 3rd attempting to follow a Toyota.

I thought they had limited slips that required power braking to work well.  Was the Hummer really not capable or was it the mall crawler skill of the driver?  I am remembering back to my old Rick Russell videos.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 23, 2017, 05:18:31 PM
I thought they had limited slips that required power braking to work well.  Was the Hummer really not capable or was it the mall crawler skill of the driver?  I am remembering back to my old Rick Russell videos.
Well, we did have spotters. Maybe he just had a very off night. It wasn't for a lack of trying. He kicked up a lot of dirt and at times his truck was engulfed with dust. It took me some time to get up of course due to me going so slow and when he was approaching I was thinking, "Ohh great now I'm gonna look like a fool for going so slow with the Crawler." He didn't even make it up to the point of my video. Next year I'll definitely attempt the "buggy line".
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on Aug 23, 2017, 05:22:30 PM
Hummers have torsen limited slips.    You need to apply brakes to bias the diff for torque transfer to the opposite wheel.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: redneckcustoms13 on Aug 23, 2017, 06:31:41 PM
We had one that wheeled with us once. Absolute joke. A bone stock ext cab z71 on 31" all terrains outperformed it in every task. Of course neither could make it through the obstacles like the little Toyotas and samurais.

Anyhow big Mike, where are the 37s? We want to see more of that wheeling.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 23, 2017, 08:25:13 PM
July 2, 2017: Hauled my biggest load to date

On July 2nd I hauled 1,080 pounds of patio stones for my mother. This is the largest load I've hauled to date.

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The All Pro 3" springs were very much not happy with the load, Fox Shox 2.0 fully compressed.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 23, 2017, 08:27:22 PM
With a couple trails out of the way it was time to get going with Stage 2!

July 3, 2017: Stage 2 has officially begun!

The next day this project was kicked off by the arrival of these:

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ATX AX757 Chamber Pro II beadlocks, size 17" x 9" wide, -24mm/-0.95in offset
Mfg info: http://www.atxwheels.com/wheel/33129/ax757-chamber-pro-ii

These wheels were strongly recommended by a friend who has a lot of experience with tires larger than anything I've ever wheeled before. *hint

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Wow these wheels are BEEFY. The ring is MASSIVE. They make my Allied Beadlocks look like a cheap trick. I'm already way in love them
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 23, 2017, 08:47:39 PM
So what is my Stage 2? First some background

Here was my original timeline with this truck:
Oct 2015: Take ownership of the new 3rd gen Tacoma (didn't happen)
--Ended up taking 261 days, see page 1

Winter 2015/2016: Finish Stage 1 in time for a few easy annual events (didn't happen)
--Didn't get the truck home until nearly May

Summer 2016: Finish Stage 2 in time for Rubithon/June (didn't happen)
--Having only owned the truck for 1 month there was no way I could be ready for Rubithon. It wouldn't have panned out anyhow: Crawler not developed for new 3rd gen yet, R&P not developed for new 3rd gen yet, lockers not developed for new 3rd gen yet...
--Once I missed Rubithon in June and the wheel'n season was in full swing, it was pretty much a wash for me all the way through our annual Marlin Crawler Round Up event/September and the Pomona Off Road Expo/October.

So 2016 was a bummer for sure. The next best time to get it done is now!

My goal for Stage 1:
Drivetrain: Marlin Crawler TacoBox (goal accomplished)
Tires: 33" tires (goal accomplished)
Suspension: 3" All-Pro UCA lift (goal accomplished)
ARB air lockers F&R (installed but not connected, no on-board air yet)
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With a Crawler, slight lift, 33" tires, and lockers F&R the Tacoma should be capable to do all of the easy stuff. I could have just stopped here. I could have left the truck on 33s and ended up looking like 90% of all other Tacomas on the trail. But that's not me. That's not the Marlin Crawler iconic truck way. I need to do something that is really going to stand out, and most importantly something that is going to challenge the opinion people have of the Tacoma.

My goal for Stage 2:
Drivetrain: Marlin Crawler TacoBox (carry over from stage 1)
ARB air lockers F&R (carry over from stage 1 + get these puppies working)

Tires:
I love the look of 37" tires on my Hilux so my goal has been to retain the same aspect ratio on the Tacoma. Here is what this means: The 37" Interco IROK tires on my Hilux measured 36.5" new. The body of the Tacoma is 25.6% longer, 19.4% wider, and 21.7% taller for an overall average size increase of 23.0%. Now take my Hilux tires 36.5" X 23.0% body size increase of the Tacoma = 44.6" Stage 2 tire size holy crap that is huge! I couldn't even do this if I tried as California only allows up to a 44" tire for highway use. When I calculated this I was really bummed. I love driving "to the trail and back" but can't see myself driving 44" tires across multiple state lines for events. So I thought, ok, how about we meet in the middle which would be a 40.5" tire and the compromise I like: I will run 40" tires.

Suspension:
Since day one everyone has been asking me when am I going to Solid Axle Swap the Tacoma, and while my comment on P1 said at least not for the first year, my answer since earlier this year is now never. Here is why: Anyone can SAS a Tacoma and go run X Y and Z trail and make it look easy & sexy. But what I am going to do is run the same X Y and Z trail while retaining IFS while on crazy huge tires to prove that with the incredible control and safety of the Marlin Crawler, a Tacoma doesn't have to have a SAS in order to hit some very challenging trails. I see a market here that no one is exploiting in this industry. Everyone I've shared Stage 2 with thinks I am out of my mind and I LOVE it. This is what will drive us to push the industry forward & make some awesome improvements to the IFS system to prove that IFS + our TacoBox can take you anywhere!
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And that's it for Stage 2. I've already got a Stage 3 planned for winter 2017/2018 (World's First Triple cased Tacoma [of ANY Tacoma 1st/2nd/3rd gen], Front & Rear Bumpers [to be marketed and sold by MC], and a significant bump in power *hint), some of this is already underway ;)
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 23, 2017, 08:51:56 PM
*Hint: You guys still don't know what I've got going on ;) ;)

July 4, 2017: Stage 2 has officially begun! (continued): New meats showed up!

Without any further ado, the following day these showed up!!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 23, 2017, 09:01:05 PM
Ok my friends, you are looking at my brand-new Cooper Discoverer SST Pro 40" x 13.5" x 17" tires!
Mfg info: http://us.coopertire.com/Tires/Light-Truck/DISCOVERER-STT-PRO.aspx

I have so much to discuss about tires because the hunt for a 40" tire was pretty brutal. I didn't like any of them and most were a high load rating, will be noisy as hell  (expected, but hoping to find a tire with at least some low noise tech), and won't wear great on-road. I spent a solid week reading reviews and looking into tires that I was familiar with. I then spent another week looking at 39s and 38s but the problem here is a new 38" will only measure 37.5" and after two years will be 36.75" and then I'm right back to my Hilux... ho hum. If BFG made a 40" All-Terrain I would have immediate purchased it but no one makes anything close to an All-Terrain this side of 37". Then the same friend who turned me onto the ATX wheels strongly recommended these Coopers (I've never owned a set of Coopers in my life) saying I will not find a better all-around 40" tire. After taking my friend's advice and reading a bunch of reviews I felt very happy with these new Coopers and ordered them. When I placed the order there were only 6 available on the west coast and many threads I was finding (mostly from earlier this spring) were claiming of big back orders from Cooper. So I was psyched to be able to get a set. They are Cooper's newest tire, a load rating of only C (for this tire size that's awesome), made in USA, and many claim even as a 40" they have good road manners. I'll of course give my full review of these babies no doubt about it. For now I gotta get to sleep and will try to chime in some more tomorrow!

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vs. 285/70R17 (32.7" x 11.2") BFG All-Terrains

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In the worlds of the Phantom Phreak, Man oh man this is gonna be good!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Rockcrawlintoy on Aug 23, 2017, 10:00:17 PM
Those STT pros look good. I should be picking a set up Saturday in 37. I can't wait to see the next stage
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: fordh8r on Aug 23, 2017, 11:40:26 PM
I have the Cooper STTs that I bought 2 years ago before the PROs were released and I like them a lot! They are very quiet for such an aggressive tire and work well offroad. I was thoroughly impressed with them in the snow this past January and they do well on the Rubicon too. I can't say that I've had them in any real mud or sand yet. But if I do I hope they will be just as impressive in those categories of terrain as well. Looking forward to hearing back on your experience with these tire, Mike. :beerchug:
Title: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Willard on Aug 24, 2017, 12:13:56 AM
Good choice on tires. I am currently running the exact same tire that you just got. I can personally tell you that they are great. Low road noise and hook up very well for the few times I have wheeled with them. I will be hitting the Rubicon next wknd and will have further reviews to add for them, but until then they rock. And are very light for a 40" tire also. I ordered mine in late October and got the first 4 in a month then had to wait 6 months to get my 5th tire lol. So the back order deal was legit. I am running them on DIY bead locks i built my self with no balancing of any sort and I run 70 on highway and no shakes of any sort. That speaks volume for the design and craftsmanship of the tire itself. A Friend of mine saw my tracks in the creek and called them tractor tracks lol. Taco looks great!!!!! More pics!!!!!


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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: R.DesJardin on Aug 24, 2017, 05:47:37 AM

Back at camp I pulled out and *finally* put on my first sticker indicating I have a superior Manual Transmission! :D

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And I say why make life more complicated than it already is.  :shades:  Love this build up.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Rockcrawlintoy on Aug 24, 2017, 06:35:48 AM
I thought they had limited slips that required power braking to work well.  Was the Hummer really not capable or was it the mall crawler skill of the driver?  I am remembering back to my old Rick Russell videos.

They work a lot better thats for sure with a little brake
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Aug 24, 2017, 12:17:40 PM
DAMN!!!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on Aug 24, 2017, 05:40:45 PM

Back at camp I pulled out and *finally* put on my first sticker indicating I have a superior Manual Transmission! :D

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My sister would like a sticker that says   

Real Women use three pedals...............
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 29, 2017, 07:46:40 AM
Hey guys, thanks for the confidence on these tires! I'm excited to put em to use!!

July 4, 2017: Stage 2 has officially begun! (continued): New meats showed up!

Later that evening progress got underway :D

Here is what 40s look like at full droop of a 3" UCA lift kit.

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WHEW I love this!

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The rear 3" lift All Pro springs at full droop look worse but the front is going to be more work since the tires also have to clear while turning.

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These 40s completely dwarf Marlin's (2 yr old?) 37" IROKs...

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...which is good because the Tacoma dwarfs my Hilux running the same tires. :D
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 29, 2017, 07:54:38 AM
Some weights...

Each 40x13.5x17 tire: 90.5 lbs

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Each beefy 17x9 aluminum wheel with hardware: 43.4 lbs

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For a total of 133.9 pounds. Stock 17" TRD Sport wheel with 285/70R17 BFG All Terrains: 85.3 lbs

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Difference: 48.6 lbs per corner. For Rock Crawling I don't mind this weight because weight down low is favorable. This will however make the following worse:
EDIT: Whoops, I forgot, for these measurements the valve stem with pressure sensor was not included.


Issue #1: Ring and Pinion Ratio

The first issue I have with these tires is going to be available diff gearing and it's affect to on-road driveability. It's the issue I'm by far most concerned about. I knew this going in so I'll have to just bite my tongue and not complain too much, but on two occasions I've met with Nitro Gear & Axle and they have no desire to make anything lower than the 4.88:1 ratio I've already installed. They say that if anyone is going to run tires large enough to constitute more than a 4.88, then they'd change out both axles. (Why also the new, HD rear axle I'm not sure--that doesn't make sense to me.) I've known this for more than a year in fact. My issue which they don't respect stems from my minority status of having a stick shift Taco which comes with 4.30s from the factory (which is already ~5% lower than the typical factory Hilux R&P). Therefore, the 4.88s I've installed are only a 13.5% reduction whereas the 40s will be a good 30% larger. I have spoken to Yukon and there is a possibility they will make a 5.29 ratio for us but in the meantime I'll likely lose 6th gear and the amazingly nice close ratio of the 6th speed trans I've come to enjoy gear jam'n and short shifting will sadly fade away...

Some numbers...

Automatic: 3.909:1 factory R&P
-- 4.88 = 24.8% reduction which would be good for a 38.2" tire
-- 5.29 = 35.3% reduction which would be good for a 41.4" tire

Manual: 4.300:1 factory R&P
-- 4.88 = 13.5% reduction which would be good for a 34.7" tire
-- 5.29 = 23.0% reduction which would be good for a 37.6" tire

* these are literal tire heights

So I do understand Nitro's position. Because the majority of Tacoma owners don't have a deep joy of driving and by definition own an automatic, Nitro's 4.88s are good for about a 39" tire (which would probably measure 38.5" new). If an Auto owner was to run 5.29s, then to get their speedo back to stock without any other mods they'd need to run 42" tires. Nitro is then correct. Less than 0.1% of 3rd gen Tacoma owners will run 42" tires with factory IFS. Ok. I get this. But what then about Tacoma owners like myself who actually do enjoy driving? I'd really like to have 5.29s or maybe even something lower, which, in different to the Hilux community, I assume would be successful with the 3rd gen Tacoma since we #1 have a new massive 8.75" rear and, and #2 the front diff is a reverse rotation high pinion... To all my gear jam'n brothers and sisters out there, I'll post up if I hear anything back from Yukon.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: R.DesJardin on Aug 29, 2017, 08:48:23 AM
My gearing thoughts: I don't think it matters what you wheel seldom is anything lower than 5.29/5.38's are used? So that really gets back to hp to pull you down the road something all Toyota owners have had to deal with forever. 4.88's and run a SC right! It's a bummer about the front diff having slim to none chance of having deeper gears. But there is still a chance...........ha. I run 4.88's on 36" IROKs and with my Tacoma speedometer I swapped in I'm right on for displayed speed, I wish I had and I will swap in 5.29's at some point, I don't highway drive, wheelin is out the back door unless it is a long trip then I trailer so I can take my pickup camper. I'm too old and broken to want to sleep in a tent.

This will be interesting to see what develops since this is the future of Toyota offroading. Please don't and I mean please don't do SAS and tons. Carry on......
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Aug 29, 2017, 09:18:04 AM
those tires are badass. I'm getting a smaller set in spring!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Hilux_Max on Aug 29, 2017, 01:55:20 PM

Since day one everyone has been asking me when am I going to Solid Axle Swap the Tacoma, and while my comment on P1 said at least not for the first year, my answer since earlier this year is now never. Here is why: Anyone can SAS a Tacoma and go run X Y and Z trail and make it look easy & sexy. But what I am going to do is run the same X Y and Z trail while retaining IFS while on crazy huge tires to prove that with the incredible control and safety of the Marlin Crawler, a Tacoma doesn't have to have a SAS in order to hit some very challenging trails. I see a market here that no one is exploiting in this industry. Everyone I've shared Stage 2 with thinks I am out of my mind and I LOVE it. This is what will drive us to push the industry forward & make some awesome improvements to the IFS system to prove that IFS + our TacoBox can take you anywhere!
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That is exactly what I was doing with my previous 2007 IFS Hilux with 35's. the dual tramsfers made most of the difficult tracks so much easier at slower speeds. opened alot of peoples eyes up to what an IFS could be capable off. :thumbs:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Hilux_Max on Aug 29, 2017, 02:02:34 PM
Hey guys, thanks for the confidence on these tires! I'm excited to put em to use!!

July 4, 2017: Stage 2 has officially begun! (continued): New meats showed up!

Later that evening progress got underway :D

Here is what 40s look like at full droop of a 3" UCA lift kit.

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2Fimages%2F2016-tacoma%2F719.jpg&hash=9cda6c124e3baac1a1c96496320a7fac)


Thats gonna need a whole lot of cutting to get working under compression.


Issue #1: Ring and Pinion Ratio

The first issue I have with these tires is going to be available diff gearing and it's affect to on-road driveability. It's the issue I'm by far most concerned about. I knew this going in so I'll have to just bite my tongue and not complain too much, but on two occasions I've met with Nitro Gear & Axle and they have no desire to make anything lower than the 4.88:1 ratio I've already installed. They say that if anyone is going to run tires large enough to constitute more than a 4.88, then they'd change out both axles. (Why also the new, HD rear axle I'm not sure--that doesn't make sense to me.) I've known this for more than a year in fact. My issue which they don't respect stems from my minority status of having a stick shift Taco which comes with 4.30s from the factory (which is already ~5% lower than the typical factory Hilux R&P). Therefore, the 4.88s I've installed are only a 13.5% reduction whereas the 40s will be a good 30% larger. I have spoken to Yukon and there is a possibility they will make a 5.29 ratio for us but in the meantime I'll likely lose 6th gear and the amazingly nice close ratio of the 6th speed trans I've come to enjoy gear jam'n and short shifting will sadly fade away...


Do you still have the factory 4.3 gears?   Im only running 295's (33.5x12 ) Toyo's,  on my diesel 2016, with factory gears being 3.9, 4.3 gears would be near spot on to get "as standard" performance back.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Hilux_Max on Aug 29, 2017, 02:55:31 PM
Hey guys, thanks for the confidence on these tires! I'm excited to put em to use!!

July 4, 2017: Stage 2 has officially begun! (continued): New meats showed up!

Later that evening progress got underway :D

Here is what 40s look like at full droop of a 3" UCA lift kit.

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2Fimages%2F2016-tacoma%2F719.jpg&hash=9cda6c124e3baac1a1c96496320a7fac)

WHEW I love this!

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2Fimages%2F2016-tacoma%2F720.jpg&hash=2979b911820c5cb6880746fe8027f153)

The rear 3" lift All Pro springs at full droop look worse but the front is going to be more work since the tires also have to clear while turning.


...which is good because the Tacoma dwarfs my Hilux running the same tires. :D


Mike,  watching you work your way through the challenges of making the 40's work will be quite interesting, entertaining, and no doubt educational.  :clap:

As you know there will be quite the limitations to overcome to make the 40's work. The All Pro kit no doubt helps as from what I have read, the different upper and lower arms move the hub position 1" further forward than a standard setup allows.   There have been been a couple desert truck 05+ tacoma's I rememebrs that ended up running 37's, but to achieve full tuck, they had to severely chop the bodymount, and tub the firewall.

You may even need to relocate the bodymount 2" further back coupled with a firewall tubbing.  Those fenders will need to be cut open a couple inches more all the way around as well.

No doubt you've heard of Artic Trucks in Iceland?
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/41/46/5c/41465c726b76e52df4b88f5fa27c0a11.jpg)

They run in some cases over 40" tyres with the factory IFS setup, but:
1. installing a maximum of a 2" lift
2. Bodylift where required
3. bodymount relocation
4. tubbing of firewall
5. cut the front and rear crossmembers off, relocating them 2" down and 2" further forward and rewelding the space in between backup with infill chassis spacers.

Will you be considering a bodylift to make the 40's work?

If you wanted to try something totaly different and new, have you seen the "Tonka" Hilux developed here locally in Australia by Toyota in conjunction with Marks Adaptors that utilises portal axles front and rear?

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.caradvice.com.au%2Fthumb%2F770%2F382%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F03%2FToyota-HiLux-Tonka-10.jpg&hash=ab0fa6362e2812e1c64bd047571f806b)

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marks4wd.com%2Fmedia%2Fwysiwyg%2FToyota-HiLux_Tonka_Concept-2017-07.jpg&hash=ed45c5b783369380291c22e5504dd680)

With no suspension lift (although they did run upgraded shocks/springs), the portals gave a 4" lift over standard easily allowing 35" tyres to be fitted without trimming.

These "kits" will be available towards the end of this year for the current model Hilux and might be something for you to consider in your build?

Image below shows the additional track width increase over a standard 2017 Hilux as seen on the Tonka test mule.

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fscontent.cdninstagram.com%2Ft51.2885-15%2Fe35%2F17596568_1793613070966891_8226058795109842944_n.jpg%3Fig_cache_key%3DMTQ4MTYzMzA3MjkzOTkzNjMxMg%253D%253D.2&hash=19980380cb9356549d0b5b9cf5e355e7)

With the coilovers raised to no more than 2", All Pro Suspension setup/arms,  the additional under belly clearance and track width of portals, some trimming.....I beleive your goals to run 40's would be easily achieved and there'd be nothing else like it anywhere in the world.

40" tyres with portals would almost give you the same under belly clearance as 50" tyres would....think about that for a second.......think about the less stress on the front drivetrain with reduction gears in the hubs coupled with a crawler box.......epic!!!!   :bowdown:

Let me know if you need contact details for Marks Adaptors and I can forward them to you if required.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Aug 29, 2017, 03:01:15 PM

Mike,  watching you work your way through the challenges of making the 40's work will be quite interesting, entertaining, and no doubt educational.  :clap:

As you know there will be quite the limitations to overcome to make the 40's work. The All Pro kit no doubt helps as from what I have read, the different upper and lower arms move the hub position 1" further forward than a standard setup allows.   There have been been a couple desert truck 05+ tacoma's I rememebrs that ended up running 37's, but to achieve full tuck, they had to severely chop the bodymount, and tub the firewall.

You may even need to relocate the bodymount 2" further back coupled with a firewall tubbing.  Those fenders will need to be cut open a couple inches more all the way around as well.

No doubt you've heard of Artic Trucks in Iceland?
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/41/46/5c/41465c726b76e52df4b88f5fa27c0a11.jpg)

They run in some cases over 40" tyres with the factory IFS setup, but:
1. installing a maximum of a 2" lift
2. Bodylift where required
3. bodymount relocation
4. tubbing of firewall
5. cut the front and rear crossmembers off, relocating them 2" down and 2" further forward and rewelding the space in between backup with infill chassis spacers.

Will you be considering a bodylift to make the 40's work?

If you wanted to try something totaly different and new, have you seen the "Tonka" Hilux developed here locally in Australia by Toyota in conjunction with Marks Adaptors that utilises portal axles front and rear?

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.caradvice.com.au%2Fthumb%2F770%2F382%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F03%2FToyota-HiLux-Tonka-10.jpg&hash=ab0fa6362e2812e1c64bd047571f806b)

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marks4wd.com%2Fmedia%2Fwysiwyg%2FToyota-HiLux_Tonka_Concept-2017-07.jpg&hash=ed45c5b783369380291c22e5504dd680)

With no suspension lift (although they did run upgraded shocks/springs), the portals gave a 4" lift over standard easily allowing 35" tyres to be fitted without trimming.

These "kits" will be available towards the end of this year for the current model Hilux and might be something for you to consider in your build?

Image below shows the additional track width increase over a standard 2017 Hilux as seen on the Tonka test mule.

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fscontent.cdninstagram.com%2Ft51.2885-15%2Fe35%2F17596568_1793613070966891_8226058795109842944_n.jpg%3Fig_cache_key%3DMTQ4MTYzMzA3MjkzOTkzNjMxMg%253D%253D.2&hash=19980380cb9356549d0b5b9cf5e355e7)

With the coilovers raised to no more than 2", All Pro Suspension setup/arms,  the additional under belly clearance and track width of portals, some trimming.....I beleive your goals to run 40's would be easily achieved and there'd be nothing else like it anywhere in the world.

40" tyres with portals would almost give you the same under belly clearance as 50" tyres would....think about that for a second.......think about the less stress on the front drivetrain with reduction gears in the hubs coupled with a crawler box.......epic!!!!   :bowdown:

Let me know if you need contact details for Marks Adaptors and I can forward them to you if required.


:love:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: redneckcustoms13 on Aug 29, 2017, 04:30:39 PM
Sorry to aid in losing track Mike.

Holy cow i just fell in love. Portals on a taco!!!! I need this!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Aug 30, 2017, 07:38:14 AM
Sorry to aid in losing track Mike.

Holy cow i just fell in love. Portals on a taco!!!! I need this!

right? why aren't we funding this?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Hilux_Max on Aug 30, 2017, 03:14:08 PM
Sorry to aid in losing track Mike.
 

Im sorry too Mike.....would love to see these on your Taco!  Heres a quick detailed in depth video tour of the Tonka Portal Hilux I took when I had an intimate moment with it a couple months back. You can clearly see the how the portal setup is fitted up. (Note: the suspension on the front is set pretty low hence the front end "squat" look)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVo5x17jJjR/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BVo5x17jJjR/)

And a closer up pic:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUf-_4yjsfp/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BUf-_4yjsfp/)

Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: camhays556 on Aug 30, 2017, 04:08:13 PM
did I miss the part with the 37s on allied beadlocks? Big Mike did you just jump from 33s to 40s? Truck is going to look killer  :thumbs:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: blackdiamond on Aug 30, 2017, 04:14:30 PM
did I miss the part with the 37s on allied beadlocks? Big Mike did you just jump from 33s to 40s? Truck is going to look killer  :thumbs:

I predict an unexpected twist of 40s going on a diet.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 31, 2017, 10:50:39 AM
Do you still have the factory 4.3 gears?
Yes, I still have them laying out back. The Tacoma's new 8.75" rear end might be different from yours?

No doubt you've heard of Artic Trucks in Iceland?
...
Will you be considering a bodylift to make the 40's work?
Thank you for the comments and pics Hilux_Man. Yes I have heard about these trucks. They are pretty badass for glacier exploring. I'm gonna try to make it work without a body lift.

If you wanted to try something totaly different and new, have you seen the "Tonka" Hilux
Yes, I have seen pictures and videos of the Tonka Hilux plus a few other (equally ugly looking) Tonka Toyota truck builds (including the most ugly 4Runner I've ever seen in my life). I actually have been looking into making my own IFS portal setup :D but nothing to share at the moment. One thing is that I do not like how they designed their kit. I'm expecting some unknown roadblock that required them to make what appears to be poor design choices from the surface. But then again this whole Tonka craze is a poor design choice so.... All I'd like to say now is that I will be investigating it further this winter.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 31, 2017, 11:16:49 AM
July 7, 2017: Stage 2 has officially begun! (continued): Finally finished the ARBs

Since we were on the subject of differentials the thread will be happy to know I finally got my ARB air lockers hooked up :D

To be honest the main reason why I've procrastinated on this is because I am a big fan of belt-driven compressors.

I've never liked electric compressors. Belt driven compressors, such as the uber powerful Chrysler RV-2, which flows more air than a valve stem meaning the compressor will cycle off even while airing up a tire, which has a longer stroke & larger bore than the popular York compressor, which has an integrated oil pump so you can rev it up without it burning up, and finally which I have mounted to my Hilux's 3RZ-FE but never finished the project >_<, ...can output in excess of 15 CFM which is many times better than the average electric compressor of only around 2-3 CFM. It's so cool to have a powerful on board air system where you can air up truck after truck after truck. Moreover, I know 40" tires are going to take f-o-r-e-v-e-r with an electric compressor...

Well, after having evaluated how I'm going to mount an air compressor to the engine.....whew it's a mess in there. No wonder I've always liked 4 cyls. There is little precious engine compartment room with this 6 cyl. The main issue is that each timing cover overhangs the belt line of the engine rendering accessories mounted about 50% or higher on the engine requiring some sort of double-offset pulley arrangement making it far more difficult. Then you've got the width of a V engine that takes up any side-to-side space you'd normally have have an inline 4. Then to mount the RV-2 down low, which is a wide Twin V 2cyl pump, is impossible due to interference with each frame rail. Not good.

Fast forward to a few months ago and the keen obsever would have noticed I used an electric compressor for Moab back at page 12 reply #350 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1142759#msg1142759):
(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2Fimages%2F2016-tacoma%2F547.jpg&hash=99cc7390c2228a5cf0c9b701ba3d0429)

This is ARB's semi-new "Maximum performance" air compressor that they offer in an easy to carry box. This compressor is a pair of High Output motors+compressors mounted together in parallel. We sell this by itself (https://www.marlincrawler.com/air-electronics/compressors/arb-air-compressor-maximum-performance), but having a compressor kit with tank in a box is so useful that the shop bought this one for employees to use. For the small 33" All Terrains, this max performance compressor actually kicked some serious booty. It would air up from 10 PSI to 40 PSI in about 3 minutes per tire which I thought was quite impressive for an electric compressor. Grated, this is only a 33" not aired down too far and with a large 17" rim taking up more volume, but impressed nonetheless. As for 40s that I'll surely air down as low as 3 PSI... I have no doubt it's going to be painfully slow to air up.

But it is a viable option. So here is what I've decided to do:
1. Get and mount a normal ARB High Output compressor (info on our site (https://www.marlincrawler.com/air-electronics/compressors/arb-air-compressor-high-output)) in the engine bay (not my favorite location due to heat) and use that to run the lockers.
2. Carry this Max Performance compressor box around to air up my tires for now.
3. Eventually get my own Max Performance compressor (info on our site (https://www.marlincrawler.com/air-electronics/compressors/arb-air-compressor-maximum-performance)) and mount it under the bed along with maybe a 5 gallon air tank.
4. Then, to air up my tires, knowing I've got the V6 towing package's upgraded high amp alternator, I'll run all three compressor motors (High Output = 1 + Max Performance = 2) at the same time which ought to do okay.

Calculating ARB's documentation across both compressor kits, at 0 PSI, 3 X High Output Compressors will be about 8.5 CFM and at 30 PSI they will be about 6.8 CFM. This is actually not much lower than a standard York compressor so actually..... surprisingly this might work out decently.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 31, 2017, 11:31:15 AM
First step was where to mount it in the engine bay. I first began looking in the passenger A-pillar corner to get it up high...but then I'd have more wiring to do and space constraints weren't so good there. Then I looked to place it as close to the battery as possible and found a perfect spot between it and the driver's headlight.

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2Fimages%2F2016-tacoma%2F726tw2.jpg&hash=57fbfa12b08b11636d3ff2d42511bbd8)

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2Fimages%2F2016-tacoma%2F727.jpg&hash=ed2bca6c45e80bf228599ce4ed6214c1)

This does put it low but I can always add an extension hose for the compressor's air filter later. I do like how the compressor is shielded from heat by the battery and cooled by air through the headlight housing.

Removed all the inner fender trim to expose the fender wall.

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2Fimages%2F2016-tacoma%2F728.jpg&hash=a64d405a7f6b5c4c0a3e076b278af271)

Drilled four holes for the bracket

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Nice fit in here. I like how the space is being utilized.

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Look'n good! I used our 5mm black air line (https://www.marlincrawler.com/yukon/traction-devices/air-operated-locker-replacement-parts/black-nylon-line-spool) because, again, going back to my disgust with air lockers, I'd rather people just not know I had them and the iconic blue ARB lines are a dead give-a-way so screw that

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2Fimages%2F2016-tacoma%2F731.jpg&hash=79703fee922f70f21c21b67193b49fc8)
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 31, 2017, 11:38:30 AM
An issue I see all the time with ARBs is a rock smashing a line or a line melting from exhaust. Once you have a leak you no longer have lockers. I've already built an emergency air locker repair kit which includes an extra solenoid (https://www.marlincrawler.com/air-electronics/misc-air-parts/air-solenoid), air line (https://www.marlincrawler.com/yukon/traction-devices/air-operated-locker-replacement-parts/black-nylon-line-spool), and an air splice (https://www.marlincrawler.com/air-electronics/misc-air-parts/air-line-splice-threaded).

So I took advantage of protection wherever possible and routed the line for the rear locker through the frame rail. I did this in two steps. First I fed the line through the driver's side frame rail and exited it out this slot near the exhaust. Then I continued running it back through the same slot and once out past the brake line components I pulled the loop through enclosing the line fully inside the frame rail.

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2Fimages%2F2016-tacoma%2F732.jpg&hash=a4eab4f12d375cbe4e011710a7a73c82)
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 31, 2017, 11:40:01 AM
With the lines routed the last step was to mount the switches.

I'm a bit undecided on what to do here. I've never liked large rocker switches but the Tacoma has them everywhere plus the aftermarket makes a gazillion different rocker switches for light bars, GPS, CB, etc. custom printed rocker covers. So I'll probably keep the ARB rocker switches. For now I decided to mount them with as little modification as possible so that should I decide to move them in the future I could restore things back to stock.

The decision was made to sacrifice the left side cubby hole for the switches. I began working on a model to 3D print but then figured I could just cut the back side of the cubby hole to route the wires and should I remove them I the hole wouldn't affect the use of the cubby.

Taking the left side of the dash apart

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Routing the wires through the cubby

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Here is the extremely simple modification to ARB's harness to allow the front locker to be engaged without the rear locker -- EXTREMELY useful and I'd argue entirely necessary for wheeling. I understand why ARB does it the way they do which from a business perspective is better for warranty and reliability concerns. Just connect the power-in for the front locker switch directly to the power-in of the rear switch. Done.

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2Fimages%2F2016-tacoma%2F735.jpg&hash=ac4bbdb0bc983749dd372f5ce2d12f20)

Because this is temporary (lol whatever that means) I just placed small cutouts of cardboard between each switch and wrapped them with tape compressing the cardboard for a nice firm block of switches.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Aug 31, 2017, 11:43:07 AM
July 7, 2017: Stage 2 has officially begun! (continued): Finally finished the ARBs

Here is the cubby remounted with the hole shown. For anyone else considering this, I recommend cutting the hole much smaller than this. All you need to do is pass female butt connectors through.

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2Fimages%2F2016-tacoma%2F736.jpg&hash=96d5efcbffe0428eb1c681db5e3f201c)

And finally the end result! The tops of the switches do contact the bezel slightly, so if I chose to keep this and 3D print my own then I'll shift the switches down a few mm.

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2Fimages%2F2016-tacoma%2F737.jpg&hash=78717e4e7331b7d457c70a5ff0b798c0)

Did a pressure test of 10 mins and the compressor never cycled with both lockers engaged so they are ready to go!

Finally after ordering a new Tacoma with a rear locker 705 days ago, I've got a Tacoma with a rear locker!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Aug 31, 2017, 04:27:06 PM
very cool!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: R.DesJardin on Aug 31, 2017, 05:45:27 PM
Did you just say mm? Eeeeeekkkk! Carling makes pods for mounting switches.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Sep 07, 2017, 03:26:17 PM
Did you just say mm? Eeeeeekkkk!
Of course! I love the metric system. It makes calculations so much simpler.

July 9, 2017: Stage 2 (continued): Suspension

Finally with working lockers I was one step closer to being Rubicon-ready. At this point I had one and a half weeks to go before TLCA's annual Rubithon event, which is the organization's largest Rubicon run and will be my first time with the Tacoma at the 'Con. This event is normally held in June but excellent snow fall pushed the date back to mid-July (good for me).

The first and most obvious step in making the transition from 33s to 40s is suspension work. I am much against body lifts (because they don't aid in under chassis ground clearance and add complexity ) and of course would never consider installing an ugly front differential drop kit, not even on my worst enemy's ex-wife's lawyer's hairdresser's CPA's deceased step-father's Mitsubishi Montero that was left behind in his will and used by his wife's Alpaca's veterinarian's dentist's bathroom janitor's toilet paper supplier that was regularly used as a cat litter delivery vehicle every Wednesday afternoon at 2:30pm from a local Safeway.

With that out of the way, the only choice is quite clear: Continue on from the All Pro 3-inch Upper Control Arm lift kit by upgrading to their Long Travel Kit. I do like how AP has extended the width to only 2" wider per side as apposed to other kits which I think are too wide and probably better suited for the dunes (not my cup of tea) (sand is for litter boxes).

Out with the old...

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In with the new!!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Sep 07, 2017, 03:33:28 PM
The first thing to mention is that unbeknownst to you guys and gals I've been working secretly behind the scenes with a friend to aid in the development of some really cool new features coming to IFS owners! That's right, my Tacoma is helping change the face of the Long Travel Kit!

I will be posting more about this later, but my goal is to improve the strength and Rock Crawling capability of the IFS so that going SAS is a harder decision to make. More to come later!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Sep 07, 2017, 03:36:51 PM
July 10, 2017: Stage 2 (continued): Suspension (continued)

Moving on, I had Rocky prepare my spindles. T-minus 4 days to Rubithon!

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Nice welds

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Sep 07, 2017, 03:38:05 PM
Painted, dried, and reassembled

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Lower ball joint mounts clearanced

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July 11, 2017: Stage 2 (continued): Suspension (continued) Shocks *finally*

With only three days to go before Rubithon, my new, longer shocks **finally** arrived!!

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SHEEESH these took a while to get. Apparently Fox was on a national back-order for these, p/n 880-02-953, and beings I am an avid Mountain Biker who has always liked Fox shocks I was committed to staying with Fox. It was Poly Performance who came through and was able to get me apparently the last pair drop shipped direct from Fox. Thank you Poly Performance!!

Here they are compared to the Fox shocks AP supplied with their 3" UCA lift kit (left). Much longer with much more shock shaft exposed. Very, very nice!

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Test fitted

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AXLES

One thing I forgot to mention about is that THREE MONTHS AGO I ordered a RCV full-300M 2-inch longer-than-stock front axle set and they STILL had not arrived. Folks. We are T-minus three days here and I'm supposed to run 40" tires through the 'con?! RCV texts me and says the axles should be delivered by Thursday.....the day I am leaving for Loon Lake. So two weeks ago I prepared a contingency plan which was to get 2"+ Chromoly inner shafts from Currie when Jon from All Pro, in hearing of all the trouble I was having with RCV, offered to lend me his own personal set of used Tacoma axles already assembled with Currie inners!

So those were also in the mail and expected to be delivered at any time. So I had two sets of axles coming. The amazingly generous offer from Jon/All Pro was huge--but these are axle sets that are still running the factory Toyota CVs. I was okay with running 40" tires on factory CVs because my super low gearing gives me the option of going easy on the shafts, but of course I am hoping for the complete RCV shafts.

The shipping race of axle deliveries was on and meanwhile I was back to work!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Sep 07, 2017, 03:39:45 PM
July 11, 2017: Stage 2 (continued): Mounting Tires and Wheels

Getting the new meats mounted

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A nice feature I didn't realize when ordering these wheels is that they have two valve stems! Very nice feature. Now I can check air pressure while simultaneously inflating/deflating. They are also located inwards from the bead which is important because the Toyota pressure sensors are metal and don't flex. Very dangerous for Rock Crawling because it only takes one solid hit from a rock and you'll have to replace the entire valve stem on the trail. I've helped someone do this before. It's not fun.

Toyota pressure sensors in foreground, rubber stems in background. Nice placement away from the outer rim.

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There are 96 bolts total that must be tightened in a crisscross pattern at multiple torque settings. Doing that by hand is crazy. Air really helps out here on low torque settings to speed up the process before finishing off the last two passes using a torque wrench.

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WOOOHOOOOOOO My truck is finally running 40s! HAhaha not really. The tires are so large that with AP's 3" rear lift springs it cannot be sat on the ground without fender contact. Gonna need both a bit more lift and a lot of trimming.

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All tires mounted, inflated and ready to go!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Sep 07, 2017, 03:40:38 PM
July 11, 2017: Stage 2 (continued): Rear Leafs

Next was taller rear leafs. I am not a fan of the reverse shackle setup but I also don't have time to do anything about it right now. I asked AP if they offered anything taller than a 3" and they said not really. I was surprised because in the Hilux world we have lift springs up to +6 inch, but it does make sense as it's not so straight forward to lift the front 6-inches...

...but what they do have is a heavier duty Expedition Spring that they said will get me a bit more lift so I told them to send it out. My thought here is that for now I'll run it and later I'll remove leafs to find the spring rate ideal for Rock Crawling and solve the rest with trimming.

With only two days to go for Rubicon this had definitely become a team effort.

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The Expedition Springs are cRaZy heavy

Expedition left, regular +3" right

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Sep 07, 2017, 03:41:06 PM
July 11, 2017: Stage 2 (continued): First time mounting all four 40s

Late that afternoon I had all four tires mounted up and WOW I love the look of this!! WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Sep 07, 2017, 03:43:29 PM
Here is what the front looks like when the truck is sitting nearly level based on the rear suspension.

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The front shocks have not been cranked yet so the front sags big time with our shop lift down. No matter what I'll be doing a lot of trimming and will still need to figure out turning clearances.

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I spent some time looking at the rear. The Expedition Springs allowed the truck to be sat on the ground without any tire to fender interference which was nice.

In considering what to do with the fender I took some pics and went to Photoshop. Here is one idea:

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I think this will work out okay. The only thing I don't like is that I really love the factory flares. The flares give the truck it's shoulders, it's aggressive look that I like. So I think I'll need to order another set of flares, cut all four in the middle, add flare material to the center to spread the flares wider, and then reattach them up higher on the newly cut fender line.

I probably haven't made this clear yet but I will not be lifting the truck much. I'd rather keep the truck low and let the tires pick up the slack in ground clearance. Also, I'd like to keep the truck low because it's way heavy and with it being the same size as a 1st gen full-size Tundra, any taller is going to make a lot of tight tree squeezes more difficult, such as the many famous ones on our local Dusy/Ershim trail.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Sep 07, 2017, 03:47:20 PM
After everyone had left for the day it was time to start cut'n!

First I drew an outline of where the flare originally was at. At the least I could visualize or play with Photoshop to see what it would look like

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Here is the magical tool that's hopefully gonna make it happen! Thank you to our neighbor body shop for letting me borrow this!

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At this point my main concern with turning clearance. Can't wheel if I can't turn :D So I knew I had to address interference with the body mount and inner fender wall and needed to get to where I can turn the tires.

So I removed the flare and then did my first cut at the bottom front corner so the tires can clear the body.

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Here is the other side trimmed but with the flare on.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Sep 07, 2017, 03:51:26 PM
July 12, 2017: Stage 2 (continued)

The next day I really needed to get the front end off the lift to see what I've got to work with. I made some rough calculations to get the springs compressed and get the truck leveled out a bit.

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I knew early on this was going to be a long day.

Even with the springs cranked down about half-way down the shock bodies the front end was still sagging too much. Here are turning pics with a bit of help from our shop lift.

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Surprisingly I could turn pretty far before the tire contacts the factory body mount. I wasn't expecting this. The relocated spindle is working great so far. No matter what I will greatly reduce or replace both body mounts.

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In this shot I've got the truck up on the lift just enough to where the tire will clear the body mount. With conservative flex, at this height the 40s could actually work but the suspension A-arms are cranked way down here and I'm not sure if an axle shaft (at least one set had better show up today!) would even allow this much.

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I'll be entirely honest at this point. I was leaving for the Rubicon in one and a half day. I remember thinking, "Geez, if I had a solid axle under here I'd be done. It would fit, I could lift it, I could move the axle forward, it would be much eaiser." But I'm not interested in the easy way with this truck. I'm interested in the "Extreme Practical" and want to make this work.

As much as I want to keep the truck low, I think I could live at this height shown here. I do believe it is still too high. Ideally the truck should come back down about half as much as I've changed it over the past week. There will be a lot of trimming. It's gonna be a long night.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: R.DesJardin on Sep 07, 2017, 04:58:44 PM
Of course! I love the metric system. It makes calculations so much simpler.

CNC's don't care, its just numbers.

Cool progress. I remember cutting/trimming my new truck back in the day.


Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Sep 08, 2017, 12:15:10 AM
Nice to see that you are going to keep the IFS and parts manufacturers  are taking more interest in making what you need.

I was trying a few months ago to buy a ladder rack for my Tacoma.  Company that makes the rack has steel or aluminum versions for up to the 2015.  2016+ will fit the same rack but the hole in the mounting plate needs to be one inch lower.  Company said since they are not selling any racks to people with a 3rd gen Tacoma right now, they have no plans to make a rack mounting plate that fits.  They sell lots to 2015 and older trucks though. When I said that the plate was large enough I could just drill a hole in the right spot, the company guy tells me that would void the warranty.  Now I Don't care about a one year limited warranty, but the guy just po'ed me that bad.  I bought a rack from a different Company, and mailed the first companies complains department a copy of the invoice and my written complaint.  Got a return letter back within three weeks telling me that there is now a rack to fit my 2016 available.   Too little, Too late. TOO rude.

Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: redneckcustoms13 on Sep 08, 2017, 06:12:27 AM
So when we see a marlin case, marlin PORTALS, and all this all pro control arm greatness I do believe the ifs of the newer Tacoma will be a very cool thing to keep in place while still having a very capable and street friendly rig.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Leonel on Sep 09, 2017, 03:45:01 PM
July 7, 2017: Stage 2 has officially begun! (continued): Finally finished the ARBs

Here is the cubby remounted with the hole shown. For anyone else considering this, I recommend cutting the hole much smaller than this. All you need to do is pass female butt connectors through.

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And finally the end result! The tops of the switches do contact the bezel slightly, so if I chose to keep this and 3D print my own then I'll shift the switches down a few mm.

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Did a pressure test of 10 mins and the compressor never cycled with both lockers engaged so they are ready to go!

Finally after ordering a new Tacoma with a rear locker 705 days ago, I've got a Tacoma with a rear locker!

A Switch Pro lets you activate your lockers from your phone via bluetooth, which will be handy while you are "walking " your truck
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Sep 09, 2017, 05:42:14 PM
A Switch Pro lets you activate your lockers from your phone via bluetooth, which will be handy while you are "walking " your truck

 :eek:  May as well add the satellite remote system that lets you drive it from home, up to 25.000 miles away. Just think, you can wheel for a couple hours and still be to work on time or ready to go out for dinner with the in-laws. :thumbdown: :thumbdown:


I am not sure what problem there would be engaging on disengaging  lockers with that much torque on the axles. :headscratch: but I am guessing it's not going to be good. :shake:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Sep 11, 2017, 08:14:06 AM
A Switch Pro lets you activate your lockers from your phone via bluetooth, which will be handy while you are "walking " your truck
Thank you for the info. I have not heard of Switch Pro but I already have this worked out in my own way which I hope to have finished this winter :)
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Rockcrawlintoy on Sep 11, 2017, 08:29:03 AM


I am not sure what problem there would be engaging on disengaging  lockers with that much torque on the axles. :headscratch: but I am guessing it's not going to be good. :shake:

Arb doesn't recommend crash locking the lockers but many people do it without any issues
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: zippo on Sep 11, 2017, 08:34:45 AM
When is the sas going to happen? Is that stage 3?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Leonel on Sep 12, 2017, 11:59:44 AM
Thank you for the info. I have not heard of Switch Pro but I already have this worked out in my own way which I hope to have finished this winter :)


http://www.switchpros.com/
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Rockcrawlintoy on Sep 12, 2017, 12:57:32 PM

http://www.switchpros.com/

they have one of the cleanest set ups i have seen I would love to have one in my ride.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 79coyotefrg on Sep 21, 2017, 11:56:14 PM
When is the sas going to happen? Is that stage 3?

he said he's keeping it IFS for now. maybe
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Hilux_Max on Sep 28, 2017, 02:33:17 PM

Lower ball joint mounts clearanced

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Mike,  why did you decide to clearance the lower ball joint brackets?   I would have thought if anything, running such large tyres, you'd want to limit full steering lock a little to help with clearance of tyre against inner fender/mount?

Next time you get an opportunity to chat with All Pro, could you please ask the if those new arms would work on a 2016+ Hilux?

any further updates/progress?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: toyotech on Sep 28, 2017, 09:02:21 PM
Wow. Finally went and read your entire build. Very good read and nice to see you stayed IFS and got the long arms moved forward. This has always been something I wish all companies would do.  Heck I would love to have my factory arms moved forward an inch. 
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Hilux_Max on Sep 28, 2017, 09:15:00 PM

Wow. Finally went and read your entire build. Very good read and nice to see you stayed IFS and got the long arms moved forward. This has always been something I wish all companies would do.  Heck I would love to have my factory arms moved forward an inch. 

There one guy here in Australia that got his stock lower arms modified and moved the ball joint mount end 40mm (close to 2") forward in order to run 37s with a low lift and IFS on his 06 Hilux.

Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: kneedownnate on Sep 28, 2017, 09:47:33 PM
Mike, did I miss it, have you considered running glass fenders?  Would definitely help with clearance issues
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: toyotech on Sep 29, 2017, 08:38:32 AM
There one guy here in Australia that got his stock lower arms modified and moved the ball joint mount end 40mm (close to 2") forward in order to run 37s with a low lift and IFS on his 06 Hilux.



Yeah I seen others making their own long arms and moving it forwards. It's just funny no production arms are moved forward. It's like they took the easy way out and cashed in on it
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Sep 29, 2017, 09:19:06 AM
:D
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: toyotech on Sep 30, 2017, 08:49:13 PM
these are.



I know these are. I talked to mike about it at moonlight and said I wish they would move the arms forward. Than he told me that he has already talked to all pro and that they have the jigs but never went production with them so now mike has the first pre production set. My point was that long travel has been out for a long time and no one has done a production version yet. Even when I did my LT on my runner back in 2010 I even said how hard would it be to move them forward an inch or two like some home Fab guys have done.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Oct 02, 2017, 08:59:00 AM
I know these are. I talked to mike about it at moonlight and said I wish they would move the arms forward. Than he told me that he has already talked to all pro and that they have the jigs but never went production with them so now mike has the first pre production set. My point was that long travel has been out for a long time and no one has done a production version yet. Even when I did my LT on my runner back in 2010 I even said how hard would it be to move them forward an inch or two like some home Fab guys have done.


very good point.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Oct 04, 2017, 04:24:25 PM
Hello guys,

I am so far behind with updates.........maybe I should just give up.

For example, this boring video :yawn: was filmed four weeks ago....  :D :shades: :D :shades: :D :shades:

Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Oct 04, 2017, 04:24:52 PM
I suppose I should also include this other boring video :yawn:, in case you haven't seen it, which has some additional footage of my Tacoma :circle:

Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Oct 05, 2017, 08:32:45 AM
I believe you should trademark that taco box logo and engrave it on future tacoboxes as well as sell your tacobox customers a decal. i dig it.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: emsvitil on Oct 05, 2017, 07:53:08 PM
25 forward speeds and 3 reverse.........

I thought it was 24 forward and 4 reverse

There's 1:1  ,  stock transfer ,  marlin transfer ,   marlin*stock   for 4 reduction options.

Then 6 forward * 4 = 24   and   1 reverse * 4 = 4


 :dunno:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Oct 05, 2017, 08:59:55 PM
25 forward speeds and 3 reverse.........
Nice catch and I am sorry you spent the time to calculate that. It was my mistake and I realized it later that day while in my tent at the Springs. That was my first camera interview and was definitely nervous. We took a few takes and also had to repeat some as traffic on the trail would pass us by ruining the shots. Spoiler alert: We had to run the trail twice in two days and were definitely exhausted. It was a lonnnnnnnnnng week. Full trip report to be posted soon. We pondered removing the display text from the video but just decided to leave it. We also have an editing mistake within the first few seconds that lists my 2016 as a 2017 :P The original portion of that edited sequence was overwritten with a future sequence which killed that incorrect text layer. Nathan would have to start all over to fix it so we just decided to leave it alone also. At least it shows we are covering both '16 and '17 models :gap:

I did however successfully attribute the 24-forward and 4-reverse gears in a recently released Podcast episode of which I was a guest for and recorded back in August -- my first Podcast appearance ever!
Listen here: http://toyotatrucksandtrails.com/episode-044/ or look it up in your favorite Podcast app under "Toyota Trucks & Trails". My introduction starts at the 61:45 min mark and my interview at 68:18. Warning: I am a mini-Marlin who loves to talk--It's a long interview :joke: Topics include Marlin's youth, how he got into cars and his path to Toyota trucks, the development of Marlin Crawler and the Rock Crawling industry, the history of our Round Up event, significance of clubs and community involvement, how this forum we are on came to be, and finally my vision for my Tacoma and Marlin Crawler's increasing influence in the newer truck and SUV Toyota markets. :thumbs:

Edit: I just skimmed through the 3-hour long MP3 file again and didn't find the reference but I'm gonna lol

Regards,
BigMike
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Oct 05, 2017, 09:24:48 PM
I believe you should trademark that taco box logo and engrave it on future tacoboxes as well as sell your tacobox customers a decal. i dig it.
Thanks for the comment on the brand new TacoBox logo! This logo was created within the last year from non other than the VERY SAME artist who created the Turtle Logo 20 yrs ago!! He says this is one of his most favorite logos he has ever made, stating how it is so simple yet contains many complex design elements at the same time. I love it and will be putting it to use in a very (precisely literal) big way this winter :D

Regards,
BigMike
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Shaw_j on Nov 06, 2017, 06:44:10 PM
I've been checking in on this thread almost daily for months without an account. I literally joined the marlin board for the express purpose of seeing this unfold! I'm excited to see what these trucks are capable of!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Nov 07, 2017, 09:32:44 AM
:worthless: whats new mike?!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Crawlnow on Nov 12, 2017, 07:32:42 AM
Can't wait to get rid of my tundra and get a tacoma to build.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Hilux_Max on Dec 02, 2017, 01:30:19 AM
Any updates Big Mike?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Dec 07, 2017, 02:47:51 PM
Sorry guys! I've been enjoying this truck a lot!

When is the sas going to happen? Is that stage 3?
Never! :_order:

Mike,  why did you decide to clearance the lower ball joint brackets?   I would have thought if anything, running such large tyres, you'd want to limit full steering lock a little to help with clearance of tyre against inner fender/mount?
I actually just followed All Pro's directions and plan to grind away even more for improved steering radius, if possible. Regarding tire clearance while your point is appreciated I'd rather do inner fender wall modification than limit cornering, which is highly valuable for Rock Crawling and even more so considering how long this truck is.

Next time you get an opportunity to chat with All Pro, could you please ask the if those new arms would work on a 2016+ Hilux?
Will do :thumbs:

Mike, did I miss it, have you considered running glass fenders?  Would definitely help with clearance issues
Hey Nate! I heard someone was making 4" wider than stock for desert racers which is just too much for me. I'm sure eventually they will become more common but I'm planning to keep the body lines as narrow as I can.

I literally joined the marlin board for the express purpose of seeing this unfold!
:o :o Wow okay time to get this thread back on track!!

July 12, 2017: Stage 2 (continued)
The sad reality is that with only one day left there was no way I could get this done, plus without even having a shake down run... I sat the truck down with all four 40s installed and they couldn't even clear the rear fenders. The fenders were literally resting on the tops of the tires...
...So as you may have expected I moved to Backup Plan A which is to slap on Marlin's set of 37" x 12.50" x 17" BFG KRAWLER tires he had laying around :D

33s, 37s, 40s!

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Fortunately All Pro had sent me a set of axles that I received this VERY LAST day before leaving for Rubicon. Holy crap, talk about cutting it close... In they went:

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Dec 07, 2017, 02:52:00 PM
July 12, 2017: Stage 2 (continued)

Got the truck outside for the first time in a week and also first time on 37s!

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The front coils definitely need to be cranked up more.

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The rear seems... "ok"

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Love the look so far!

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Probably could use some rear wheel spacers...

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Dec 07, 2017, 02:52:35 PM
July 12, 2017: Stage 2 (continued)

Next up was to flex it out to see how much trimming I'll need to do

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Oooff. The rear is horrible. Lift side:

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Body roll side:

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Dec 07, 2017, 02:53:08 PM
Front:

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Suspension look'n good

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So the front end will be lifted a bit more once I crank up the coils... But there is definitely going to be rubbing once on the trail.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Dec 07, 2017, 02:54:42 PM
Definitely need to trim here...

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Some different possible cuts...

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Front as well. The dotted line is the location of many aftermarket bumpers I've seen online so as long as I stay beneath that I can cut out more later.

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Regarding aftermarket front bumpers, I don't know if I discussed this yet or not but earlier in spring I attempted for THREE MONTHS to get a front bumper that I am quite fond of (and I hardly like any 3rd gen bumpers!). This bumper is featured on the front of a suspension company's Gray 2016 Double Cab Tacoma. I don't want to mention names, but I spoke directly with the bumper manufacture, confirmed it can be made out of aluminum and delivered in time for Rubithon, but then received no response from my many messages and voice mails leading up to July. Finally, realizing it wasn't going to get done in time, I had no choice but to cancel the order. Immediately after I sent the message to cancel, within FOUR minutes I got a reply simply saying sorry and best of luck.

Wow. Maybe we wronged this gentleman in the past? Maybe he didn't mean any ill feelings but the near instant reply to my cancellation after weeks of silence was very strange. In hindsight this was a really great thing because now I'll get to build my own bumper!

So moving on I'm not too concerned with these factory bumpers. They'll likely get beat up and that's fine with me; They will be replaced soon enough.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Dec 07, 2017, 02:57:43 PM
July 12, 2017: Stage 2 (continued)

Back inside that night I began cutting. I cut the driver's side first and realized I could have done it better. So the passenger's side has a better looking profile and the two don't match. Oh well. It's temporary anyhow and I'm supposed to drive to and be on the Rubicon in less than 24 hrs so no time for OCD...

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Back up in the air to get more lift out of the front coils...

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Also did some quick work at a lazy, non-permanent way to remedy the rear fender clearance issue...

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...by moving the rear axle forward about 3/4". (The Tacoma's reverse shackle design articulates the axle forward, not rearward as it does to our older pickups so a little here should go a long way.)

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And that was it for the day before the event!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Dec 07, 2017, 02:59:39 PM
July 13, 2017: Stage 2 (continued)

I was up till the wee hours and slept in Thursday morning. Our group caravan had already left town before I had even woke up. I still needed to get the truck cleaned, organize all my tools, start packing, get the truck aligned, take it for a test drive around town, pick up my co-pilot, et cetera, and make it 6 hours to Loon Lake in time to get sleep before leading the group through the Rubicon in a truck I've essentially never wheeled before with a bunch of mods not tested before!

On my way to get the truck aligned I stopped off at the shop to see how things were going. Check out the Tacoma Mall Crawling with 37s :D

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Random picture after getting it aligned

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Finally back home early afternoon and ready to start packing to hit the road! This is parked next to my 1981 also on 37s. Fitting in my garage, the Tacoma is about 1.5-inches shorter than the Hilux.........yet...............are you ready for this..........the distance from the ground to the frame beneath the B-pillar is NINE INCHES. Seriously, 9-inches less ground clearance yet with the same size tires and nearly the same overall vehicle height. THIS IS NUTS!

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I'll take more comparison measurements later. Right now I gotta get packed and hit the road!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Hilux_Max on Dec 07, 2017, 03:12:51 PM
Mike.  Great update.

Your comment that you wantes to lift the front suspension to help clear the tyres, kind of works against what an IFS is.

Dont matter how high you crank the coilovers you still get the same clearance issues at full compression.   Unlike a solid axle where more lift "does" help clear tyres.

In an IFS, it just gives more clearance at static/ride height.

Better of chooping the fender open a couple inches all the way around both front and rear and keeping her as low as possible in order to utilize as much suspension droop as possible and avoiding lifting wheels offroad.

The 40s will make up the difference in ground clearance with a lower lift height.

Great work.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Dec 07, 2017, 04:40:54 PM
July 13, 2017 (continued): TLCA's Annual Rubithon Event -- The Tacoma's first baby steps on the Rubicon!

With the limited visibility of the Tacoma I knew I'd want a Co-pilot so I invited our newest sales employee Trevor with me who had never been on the Rubicon nor in my Tacoma. So it was extra extra special for us all!

Here we are getting gas!

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Getting more gas and a sunset!

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Getting last minute supplies in Pollock Pines, CA

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At 11pm we finally made it to Loon Lake and connected with our group who was fast asleep!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Dec 07, 2017, 04:43:35 PM
July 14, 2017: TLCA's Annual Rubithon Event -- The Tacoma's first baby steps on the Rubicon!

Airing down next to the World Famous Crawler Truck about to hit the World Famous Rubicon Trail in my NEW and EXCITING DUAL CASE TACOMA!!!!!!

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I will be leading a group of seven built and experienced Toyotas on our annual Marlin Crawler "Sweep Run", where our group is the last group to enter the Rubicon during each Toyota Land Cruiser Association's Rubithon event (http://rubithon.com) with the responsibility of repairing and helping any broken down or struggling rigs on the trail between Loon Lake and the main Springs Campground.

Helping others and giving back to the community has always been the Marlin Crawler way and we always look forward to this event. In fact, since the event started in 1988, we have only missed two. The unique and fun aspect about our Sweep Run is that we never know what to expect: We might come across 10+ broken rigs so it is my job as trail leader to maintain a brisk pace to complete the majority of the Rubicon trail in one shot & get everyone safely to camp that night.

First actual serious trail for the Tacoma: CHECK
First time as Trail Leader in the Tacoma: CHECK
Less than 24 hours on a new suspension system: CHECK
Less than 24 hours on new-to-me 37" tires: CHECK
Have a Marlin Crawler Dual Ultimate TacoBox: CHECK!!! Let's do this!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: toyyota on Dec 07, 2017, 05:08:21 PM
I'm watching...Like the updates.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Shaw_j on Dec 07, 2017, 08:31:38 PM
Definitely worth the wait! :clap:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: zippo on Dec 08, 2017, 09:04:29 AM
Sorry guys! I've been enjoying this truck a lot!
Never! :_order:


Well then, since you have a new love, i'll buy your first gen for a shinny new two dollar bill?!? I'll take good care of her!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: blackdiamond on Dec 08, 2017, 10:57:25 AM
Well then, since you have a new love, i'll buy your first gen for a shinny new two dollar bill?!? I'll take good care of her!


He won’t sell to an “auto broker” that will just resell it...  :yupyup:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: zippo on Dec 08, 2017, 02:16:08 PM
He won’t sell to an “auto broker” that will just resell it...  :yupyup:

Hurtful. Just hurtful.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: helipilot77 on Dec 08, 2017, 03:42:27 PM
He won’t sell to an “auto broker” that will just resell it...  :yupyup:


Hurtful. Just hurtful.


I don’t think he’s going to forgive you for that one anytime soon John.  :rofl2:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: LittleSteve on Dec 09, 2017, 09:12:28 AM


I don’t think he’s going to forgive you for that one anytime soon John.  :rofl2:

ill take it!

pull it apart and leave it for 18 months then decide what to do with it, or leave it for a mate to use...
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: brettf on Dec 12, 2017, 09:06:29 AM
I created an account months ago solely to subscribe and to follow this thread!  Just some feedback so that you know third gen Tacoma owners are not only interested, but are finding their way to this thread and are and watching this closely!

That said, keep the updates rolling!!  Rock.  On.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jan 10, 2018, 07:43:16 AM
Sorry for the lack of updates. It turns out I have 90-something good pictures from my first Rubicon trip that I'd like to share but posting them plus future events to this build thread doesn't make sense so I am compiling on a new, separate Trip Report thread and will get this updated once I get that thread started. (Which means I must go all the way back to my first Moab trip and so on to get caught up before I can post about this Rubicon trip).

I'm slowly compiling the new thread as I can and will update here once done.

Regards,
BigMike
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: toyyota on Jan 20, 2018, 06:49:39 PM
The pressure is on Mike, your friends would like to see what will be at the King of The Hammers this year.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: helipilot77 on Jan 21, 2018, 08:14:17 AM
The pressure is on Mike, your friends would like to see what will be at the King of The Hammers this year.

I'll be there looking for you Mike.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: gnob on Jan 26, 2018, 07:05:26 AM
Ive read in a couple of these threads.
Instead of hating on the fake hood scoop, why dont you mod it and make it real?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: toyotech on Jan 26, 2018, 11:07:32 AM
Ive read in a couple of these threads.
Instead of hating on the fake hood scoop, why dont you mod it and make it real?

The fake scoop hurts visiabity for his type of wheeling. Besides it won't lead air anywhere useful if made real
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: gnob on Jan 26, 2018, 04:25:34 PM
The fake scoop hurts visiabity for his type of wheeling. Besides it won't lead air anywhere useful if made real

Whatever you say boss.  The scoop actually working lets cool air into the engine compartment while driving and lets hot air vent when off. 
Both of my rigs are/were scooped.  Get a booster seat.   :smokin:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 300k on Jan 26, 2018, 05:04:12 PM
Whatever you say boss.  The scoop actually working lets cool air into the engine compartment while driving and lets hot air vent when off. 
Both of my rigs are/were scooped.  Get a booster seat.   :smokin:


hood scoops are ugly and you can't rock the 36" turtle logo. I guess it would be OK if he had a subaru with a top mount intercooler :gap:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Gnarly4X on Jan 26, 2018, 05:25:15 PM
Hood scoops are cats-a$$ on ANY hood... I love hood scoops!!!  :best:

Gnarls.  :gap:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: gnob on Jan 27, 2018, 06:20:12 AM
hood scoops are ugly and you can't rock the 36" turtle logo. I guess it would be OK if he had a subaru with a top mount intercooler :gap:

Youre right.  Thats why tons of people covet the scooped hoods.
And just to tick you off....i run a wrx scoop on my 1st gen Runner.   With the SR5 hood stripe. :smokin:   and for the record, my question was for big mike, not you clowns :hammerhead:
(https://forum.ih8mud.com/attachments/img_20171118_153610250-jpg.1576899/)
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: ReformedJeeper on Jan 27, 2018, 07:55:43 AM
Youre right.  Thats why tons of people covet the scooped hoods.
And just to tick you off....i run a wrx scoop on my 1st gen Runner.   With the SR5 hood stripe. :smokin:   and for the record, my question was for big mike, not you clowns :hammerhead:
(https://forum.ih8mud.com/attachments/img_20171118_153610250-jpg.1576899/)
Haven't you been trying to sell that for about a year? Maybe ditching the hood scoop would help the sale move along.... Just saying.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jan 27, 2018, 03:56:00 PM
Regarding the hood scoop, as toyotech mentioned I removed it purely for better over-the-hood visibility.

To chime in on the other Hood Scoop comments, remember cars such as the Impreza and others are specifically designed to have both a low pressure under the hood as well as proper placement on the hood incorporated with the frontal area's aerodynamic design for maximum pressure at the entrance of the scoop. Simply tossing a hood scoop onto a random vehicle does not guarantee a large enough pressure transfer to provide intended benefit(s).

On my 1st gen Toyota MR2 I incorporated a large full-under-body adjustable air splitter, 45° tilted radiator, and reverse hood scoop to redirect air through the radiator from beneath the car to over the car for increased front down force. According to fluid dynamics, the optimal placement of the hood scoop is between the pop-up headlights but this interferes with the hood latch mechanism so I compromised performance for practicality and pushed the scoop back a good foot. Here is how it turned out. The leading vertical flap creates a low pressure ridge passing over the front of the scoop to help prevent exiting air from getting sucked vertically upward which would cause turbulence and slow overall air flow. I should have also incorporated two or three inches of this flap along both front sides to prevent air from diving around and down into the scoop.

(https://i.imgur.com/N3i5ptr.jpg)

My point is that even if I removed plastic and cut a hole through the stock hood scoop there is no guarantee it would start working. It would benefit with slow Rock Crawling since hot rising heat would have a nice escape route, but on the highway it's possible the scoop would not function due to a net-zero difference in pressure. The MR2 needs a reverse scoop so the goal is to mount it in the lowest pressure zone over the hood, which shown below is closer to the bumper than where I ended up building mine.

(https://i.imgur.com/tJCYtfw.jpg)

For the Tacoma I imagine the ideal location for high pressure would be at the base of the windshield (cowl) which is not where Toyota placed the fake scoop. For it to be effective where Toyota placed it, there would need to be other systems in place to rapidly evacuate air under the engine and down the front of the firewall to ensure a low pressure region above the engine. I imagine a lot of work and tuning in this regard has been done to cars such as the Impreza to make sure air actually goes through it's TMIC.

BigMike
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jan 27, 2018, 04:41:48 PM
July 14, 2017: TLCA's Annual Rubithon Event -- The Tacoma's first baby steps on the Rubicon! (continued)

...I am compiling on a new, separate Trip Report thread and will get this updated once I get that thread started. (Which means I must go all the way back to my first Moab trip and so on to get caught up before I can post about this Rubicon trip).

WHEW. That was a lot of work! Ok ladies and gentlemen I have now created a dedicated Trip Report thread titled, BigMike's 2016 Tacoma Trip & Trail Log (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=102737). In 3 days I posted my first 9 trips which were previously posted to this thread except for Rubithon.

So without further ado please click here to view my full trip-report of the Tacoma's first time on the Rubicon! (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=102737.msg1150409#msg1150409)

Here is a sneak peak from the above link!

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In total, I posted 85 images from the Tacoma's first time on the Rubicon to my new Trip Report Thread. Please give them a look (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=102737.msg1150409#msg1150409) and let me know what ya think!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jan 27, 2018, 04:43:28 PM
I am trying to get this thread up to speed as quick as possible because in nine days from now the Tacoma will be in our booth at this year's King Of The Hammers event showing off some pretty awesome updates which I need to get posted here before the truck makes it's next public appearance. :hyper:

This means I won't have time to post my full trip reports from the rest of 2017, but that's okay since I can post them later to the new dedicated Trip Report thread without having to hold up progress of this build thread :D (Separating trips from the build will make both easier to maintain.) Hopefully by this time next week I'll have this build thread 100% caught up.

Will be replying soon with more updates. Thanks as always for reading!

Regards,
BigMike
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: gnob on Jan 27, 2018, 05:22:14 PM
The taco is looking good.  I will quit littering with my nonsense  :smokin:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Jan 27, 2018, 07:17:19 PM
The taco is looking good.  I will quit littering with my nonsense  :smokin:
Thanks and no worries buddy, all discussions welcomed :wave:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 01, 2018, 01:39:53 PM
I'm gonna push through a few events (which I'll later post to my new Trip thread) so I can get on with the build!

After Rubicon it was obvious I needed more tire clearance, but that had to wait as only after one day I was off on a 2,000 mile journey to Colorado!

July 18-23, 2017: 11th Annual FJ Summit (Ouray, Colorado)

The week following TLCA's Rubithon, I represented Marlin Crawler in participating in our first-ever FJ Summit event! For event details, please see https://www.fjsummit.org (https://www.fjsummit.org). I ran Black Bear Pass, Poughkeepsie Gulch, and Imogene Pass and had one of the most relaxing times I've had wheel'n. Ever. Maybe I'm getting old but I thoroughly enjoyed relaxing on really, really easy trails for a change. I will post up a full trip report later; Until then here come a few teasers! :D

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Thank you Roger Marquez on Facebook for this pic of me making easy work of the hardest obstacle called "The Wall".

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 01, 2018, 01:40:45 PM
Because it'll be a few weeks until I get the trip report up, here come a few more ;)

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 01, 2018, 01:45:10 PM
After FJ Summit I was down to about a month before our annual Marlin Crawler Round Up event where I'd be returning to the Rubicon.

August 7, 2017: Bald Mountain Day Trip

While waiting for some parts to show up, I took the wife on a solo day run to Bald Mountain to do some top secret product testing, you know, for science ;)

First things first, I was loooong overdue for a truck wash

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Back up the mountain near Shaver Lake, central Cali at our Dinkey Creek Trail Sign!

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Progress feels slow but steady

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 01, 2018, 01:49:37 PM
As I was testing out some parts for product development, this wasn't so much of a trip that I can share from but I did take a few pictures. I'll probably post up a few more to the Trip Report thread along with some short videos later...

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 01, 2018, 01:50:47 PM
August 9, 2017: In the Garage with my Hilux

My wife and I were still slowly moving into our new house and it is so awesome to finally have my own garage. Naturally, it looks best with both Crawlers in it ;)

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 01, 2018, 01:53:25 PM
August 18, 2017: RCV Axles arrived!

Back on reply 486 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1146030#msg1146030) I mentioned I was hoping to get full-Chromoly RCV axles before Rubithon. After four months since ordering them, RCV finally delivered!

300M Ultimate Axles!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 01, 2018, 01:54:16 PM
I was still waiting for more parts to get in before I'd be ready to hit the Rubicon again, so I spent some time tackling some smaller jobs

August 27, 2017: 29% Taller Crawl Ratio Sticker

When I made my back window Crawl Ratio sticker, I spec'd it at 7" tall. Well, that was just too small so I had another one made at 9" tall because Rock Crawler.

I replaced both stickers. It is now wider than the Stick Shift sticker which I like much better. Thank you Win243 for the updated photo!

Heights:

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 01, 2018, 01:55:40 PM
August 27, 2017: Front Facing Camera! (Install progress 1 of 2)

After wheeling Rubicon in July as the trail leader, there were 101 times I wished I had better visibility out of this dang maibatsu monstrosity. I had known about the reverse camera anytime mod and was planning to utilize it with a forward facing camera. After reading a lot of posts and comparing methods, I decided to go with Abec23's diode method (https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/3rd-gen-tacoma-front-rear-camera-navigation-bypass-homelink-smartphone-mirroring-mod.473033/#post-14341706) (link on TacomaWorld forum) due to it using only one three-position switch.

I first got the switch installed but didn't have time to wire-in/mount the camera. I tested it out and it works great. Flip the switch forward and a new camera circuit is activated (the camera could be mounted anywhere), flip to the middle position and the system functions as stock, flip it reward and I get reverse camera anytime regardless of vehicle direction.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 01, 2018, 01:58:52 PM
Brand new feature at our annual Marlin Crawler Round Up

I had a busy summer/fall in 2016 and couldn't get the Tacoma ready for the 15th annual Round Up (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?board=136) (MCR15), which was the first eligible Round Up for the Taco. To make up, for the 2017 Round Up (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?board=167) (MCR16) I started a new Round Up feature called "BigMike's TacoBox Run", which extends our event with Wednesday & Thursday day runs exclusively for our customers who are running TacoBox Dual Case (ie. all 1995 and newer chain drive customers).

Here is the Official Thread for the 1st Annual BigMike's TacoBox Run with event details: http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=102295

If you've got a TacoBox and would like to join me this September at MCR17, please keep an eye on this new thread (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=102702.0) which will be updated with info for the 2nd annual BigMike TacoBox Run!

I coordinated with our largest southern-California TacoBox installer Wyatt from Rock Solid Toys (https://www.rocksolidtoys.com) (RST) to bring 5 fully built and solid axle swapped Tacomas on this inaugural event. RST builds some pretty wicked Tacomas. For example, here is Wyatt's '05 automatic on 41s and a Dual Ultimate Marlin Crawler TacoBox:
(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2Fimages%2F2016-tacoma%2Ftrails%2Frubicon%2F170714%2Fbm-tb-run-rst-rig.jpg&hash=f2e3fa1f4958375f31094f44ea54685b)(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2Fimages%2F2016-tacoma%2Ftrails%2Frubicon%2F170714%2Fbm-tb-run-rst-rig2.jpg&hash=1e45601f67fda3515fdfcb3ff2db6d20)
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 01, 2018, 02:06:34 PM
After the event, I typed up a full-on trip report (which is almost finished and currently at 300 lines of text) which I'll post up after I get the FJ Summit trip posted.

To say the least that was an incredible event! It's difficult to sum up and all will be explained in detail in my official trip report. Until then here is what went down in a large nutshell:

I'm really looking forward to posting my full trip report. Definitely, the inexperience I have with this new Tacoma adds many brownie points to the epic meter. :D The last time I had such an epic adventure on the Rubicon was with Tim aka "TURBO" during MCR7 in 2008 where my lightweight 4cyl Hilux had to tow a heavy 6cyl 4Runner that had broke an axle and was experiencing charging issues on the Rubicon in the dark, not getting home until sunrise! These are the trips I'll never forget and I'm always grateful for having experienced!

To continue here, I'll just run through what I was doing that made me a day late to my own new annual Rubicon event.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 01, 2018, 02:08:22 PM
September 12, 2017: Final Rubicon Trip #2 Prep (1 of 2)

Tuesday Sept 12 was the day we were supposed to spend driving to the Rubicon and setting up camp at Loon Lake. I, however, was still wrenching on the Taco

Time to get these RCVs installed! Pulled off the axles I was borrowing from All Pro which were stock Toyota outers with 2-inch longer Chromoly inner shafts. They got me through the Rubicon, FJ Summit, and Bald Mountain with 37" tires, however, it's difficult to compare with other experiences as I have a Marlin Crawler which greatly reduces the risk of breaking anything.

Comparison photo with a new 300M full-Chromoly "Ultimate IFS Axle" from RCV. They are guaranteed up to a 40" tire:

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Dang sexy!

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Once installed they interfere with All Pro's lower ball joint bolt which has to be ground down for clearance

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Close up of the area that'll need to be ground down. The axle isn't fully inserted in these pics

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As a temporary solution to my tire-to-fender interference issue I experienced on the Rubicon in July, I installed 1" total of spacers to the front shocks and added half an inch to the rear. I say temporary because despite already having a ground clearance issue I do not want this truck to get any taller. I'm planning to do a lot of trimming and ideally possibly lowering the truck an inch from where it is now. But to get through the trail without more pointless fender rubbing, I added some spacers.

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Here is the front end back together and ready for another visit to the Rubicon

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 01, 2018, 02:09:01 PM
I was rushing and didn't get a pic of the rear 1/2" spacers going in. I only have this pic of the driver rear spring pack being partially disassembled:

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I owe a lot of gratitude and thanks to Nathan who helped me the entire day with this plus helping our warehouse guys pack the large number of supplies we have to haul in for the event. Here we are grabbing a late night dinner before our date with the 'Con. His 4R is on 35s:

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 01, 2018, 02:10:43 PM
September 13, 2017: Final Rubicon Trip #2 Prep (2 of 2)

Wednesday Sept 13 was the day we were supposed to have an 8am drivers meeting at the Loon Lake Staging Area and hit the trail. That morning I was instead at an appointment to get my alignment done after the front suspension modification:

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After that I returned home to finally get packed and by about 2pm we were finallllllly on the road heading off to one of my biggest Rubicon adventures of my life!

California State Highway 99

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Grant Line Rd ARCO

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Pollock Pines, CA

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We made it to Loon Lake, CA around 11pm, set up our tents and crashed for the night.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 01, 2018, 02:11:28 PM
September 14, 2017: BigMike's 1st Annual TacoBox Run has begun at the 16th Annual Marlin Crawler Round Up!

We were exhausted: Myself from not being ready and having to scramble again with the Tacoma, and Nathan from driving 28 hours from Canada plus the help he did at our shop. We slept in until 8am before heading over to the Loon Lake Staging Area

Last pic after breaking camp at Loon Lake

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 01, 2018, 02:11:56 PM
Front Facing Camera! (Install progress 2 of 2)

After breaking camp, I pulled out some zip ties and electrical tape and crudely mounted my front facing camera just before airing down for the trail. After playing around with a few different locations I settled above the front cross member which provides a wide enough view for oncoming objects while also providing protection for the camera.

You can see the camera mounted towards to upper section of this pic. The camera I used is a TTP-C12B from Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018800TR2/) for $19.99 (at the time):

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*Here comes an exclusive time-traveling sneak preview of the Camera in action on the trail!!

Anytime forward facing Rock Crawling Camera enabled on the trail with a bit of mud on the lens!! SAWEEEEEEEET!

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The two black lines above at each side of the screen are pieces of electrical tape. They indicate that any object crossing the screen at that exact mark is 100-percent destined to contact each front tire. (ps. Currently [in 2018] I am working on a split screen setup with two independent cameras, one for each tire displayed concurrently ;))

And, the anytime Factory Toyota Backup camera enabled on the trail!! SAWEEEEEEEET!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 01, 2018, 02:12:47 PM
The Tacoma's second visit to the Loon Lake Staging Area along with Nathan's 4R ready to get down!

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And I'll have to leave it here guys until I get my full report posted to my new Trip Report Thread!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 03, 2018, 10:07:50 AM
Two weeks after our Round Up and my second time through the Rubicon (including what I believe is the first 3rd gen to run the entire trail including Devil's Postpile/Wentworth Springs Gatekeeper) we were off to the largest west coast off-road expo!

Sept 30 - Oct 1, 2017: Tacoma Featured at the Pomona Off-Road Expo

At this year's Pomona Off-Road Expo (Southern California, https://www.offroadexpo.com/pomona-ca) we doubled the size of our booth and were able to fit one vehicle. As the first Dual Case'd 3rd gen in the World, it was a no brainier as to which truck got featured! :D :D

Setting up the booth... The Marlin Crawler truly is the Ultimate In Vehicle Control!

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The show got underway real quick with people checking out the Tacoma!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 03, 2018, 10:08:41 AM
The event was plastered with 3rd gen Tacomas. They were all over the place both inside and outside the 6 large exhibition halls. It was like a sausage fest competition of who had the biggest lightbar and highest count of on-board gasoline packs.

But as the only Dual Case 3rd gen, the only 3rd gen on 37s, and the only 3rd gen tackling difficult trails it far and away stood out. It attracted many questions and product inquiries; The effect the Tacoma had on our booth was impressive.

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Mirror showcasing the centerpiece of the truck

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 03, 2018, 10:09:25 AM
I'll include these plus a few more in a trip report post later. Here come a few more to conclude the Tacoma's first experience featured at an exposition!

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I'm planning to discuss this more in my trip report, but just as I experienced on the trail, a handful of people looking at the Tacoma told us that had they known the new Tacoma can do trails like the Rubicon then they would not have purchase a new Jeep.

Side note: While passing in opposite directions on the Rubicon, I had three different Jeep JK owners explain how they wanted to buy a Tacoma but bought the Jeep because they didn't think newer Tacomas could run trails like the Con. This is precisely my mission with this truck! To get respect for the Tacoma + IFS on the trails! :hattip:

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 03, 2018, 10:12:32 AM
October 1-2, 2017: Tacoma Featured at the Pomona Off-Road Expo (continued)

Driving back home after the Expo I took some interesting comparison pictures with the #1 most wheeled Toyota pickup in the world.

Both parked neck-and-neck...

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...but look at the length difference! :o This is the first time I've done this. Both trucks have bobbed beds and the Crawler Truck is (originally) a longbed (longer frame & wheelbase). My 1981 shortbed is shorter than the Crawler Truck. Man. The Tacoma is crazy long.

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Check out the crazy ground clearance difference

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I realize this isn't the best angle for this, but no wonder visibility is limited so much out of the Tacoma. Keep in mind also that the seating position in the Tacoma is both lower and farther away from the windshield further compounding the issue.

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And that's it for the 2017 Pomona Off-Road Expo!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 03, 2018, 10:14:47 AM
November 6, 2017: Got into my first Magazine!

The Toyota Land Cruiser Association ran an article for their premier event (http://rubithon.com) and included a picture of the Tacoma and I both with huge smiles exiting the Little Sluice :D

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Thank you TLCA!!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 03, 2018, 10:15:40 AM
Memories of 2017

Before I continue I'd like to share a few misc pics from this year as a way to say thank you and Farewell to the current Tacoma! :wave:

June 30: The last month of Stage I on 33s, at our old apartment nose-and-nose with my 300 horsepower MR2

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August 22: My Stage II build on 37s parked next to my friend's stockish '16 DC. This is after my first trip through the Rubicon.

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August/September parking lot pics...

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 03, 2018, 10:23:14 AM
And lastly, final pictures as it was during it's second trip through the Rubicon (about a 1/2-inch higher)

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Feb 03, 2018, 02:46:28 PM
So when can a tacoma fan go to the store and get a crawler(4.70 gear)box for he's 2016 with a sweet manual.

Hate the manual in heavy traffic, but love it when even jeep guys are like  :respect: just because they can't drive a manual.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Rusty Hilux on Feb 04, 2018, 12:23:40 PM
Way to take full advantage of new tech w/ that camera on the cross member!! Next level.  :smokin:  I've been reading this build thread from the beginning to end. Finally caught up. Killer build all around.  :turtlehead:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 06:46:20 AM
So when can a tacoma fan go to the store and get a crawler(4.70 gear)box for he's 2016 with a sweet manual.

Hate the manual in heavy traffic, but love it when even jeep guys are like  :respect: just because they can't drive a manual.
Awww come on man it's not that bad in traffic! ;) We are waiting for more 4.70s to arrive from Japan and we'll be building TacoBoxes again. Installing into a manual is easier because the TacoBox shifter can more easily be incorporated in the cab.

Way to take full advantage of new tech w/ that camera on the cross member!! Next level.  :smokin:  I've been reading this build thread from the beginning to end. Finally caught up. Killer build all around.  :turtlehead:
Thank you Rusty Hilux! I'll tell you what, having that front facing camera is a real godsend. Especially with uphill climbs. The hood on this thing goes out for a mile in front of the driver. Toyota needs to bring back the Minitruck!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 06:49:25 AM
At this point the wheel'n & event season was over which means it was time to put the Tacoma back under the knife!!

So far here is how my build has gone:

Stage I (completed November 1, 2016 - June 26, 2017):
Marlin Crawler TacoBox Dual Case Setup
All Pro Upper Control Arm Kit
All Pro Rear 3" Springs
Nitro Gear 4.88:1 diff gearing
BFG All-terrain 33" (285/70R17) tires
Bed bobbed 6-inches

Stage II (completed July 3, 2017 - September 12, 2017):
All Pro Long Travel +2" IFS Kit & 1" shock spacers
All Pro Rear 3" Expedition Springs & 1/2" blocks
RCV Ultimate 300M Full Chromo IFS Axles
BFG KRAWLER 37" (37x12.50x17) tires
ARB Air Lockers F&R

I've had to make adjustments in planning due to unknown variables, but here is how the next chapter is shaping out to be:

Stage III (planned):
Front prototype Marlin Crawler tube bumper
Cooper Discoverer SST Pro 40" (40x13.50x17) tires
New Heavy Duty Steering system
Capable on-board air (OBA) system
Plus a half dozen or so special things I'll post once they're done ;) ;)

There are a number of other things on my list such as a rear bumper but not sure when I'll be getting to them. I'm arranging to have more time for the Tacoma in 2018 so I plan to make big progress on it. :D

November 11, 2017: Stage III begins!!

Time to get the ball rolling!!

First things first, I'll get my 40" tires from page 16 finally installed as well as a custom front bumper built. I'm glad the bumper company I was originally trying to purchase from and mentioned in reply #526 (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100408.msg1148943#msg1148943) yanked my chain for three months earlier this year. Their exact reply was, "Can't wait to see what you come up with."

In hindsight this was a really great thing because now I'll get to build my own bumper!

LET'S DO THIS!!

If you haven't noticed, I'm not competing with anyone with my Tacoma. For example, I've owned it for more than a week and still don't have a lightbar. So in coming up with ideas for a front bumper, I tried very hard to distance my design from what's out on the market.

For starters, my #1 goal is to pay homage to the classic Marlin Crawler Tube Bumper of yesteryear. Here is an example from our 2nd and 3rd gen Hilux bumpers we once sold:

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and of course the classic design from the Crawler Truck

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 06:51:21 AM
I've never been a fan of plate bumpers. Yes, I realize they work great at concealing the massive, gaping holes that these newer vehicles have once their plastic shells are removed. But I'd much rather have a lightweight tube design that can pull off a unique look!

The most noticeable difference between the older Hilux and newer Tacoma is that when you remove the factory Hilux bumper you get a nice, straight line beneath the grill. Not so with the Tacoma as the grill is a hexapod. First idea was to simply cut the Tacoma grill straight across. I like how this looks and it still is my preferred choice. The issue is that there are so many custom aftermarket grills that once we start manufacturing these bumpers there is no way we'd expect customers to cut them up. So I had to compromise.

A few images I was playing around with

Center is the typical cut I've seen many people do. At right it is a straight across cut like we'd normally see on older trucks

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Here on the right I tried to compromise by cutting across but leaving the grill insert in place so people can retain their custom grills

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Same thing here, unmodified grill insert

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I like a straight across design but it's not practical so I'll have to do something else...

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 06:51:42 AM
After I had messed around in Photoshop for a while it was time to actually get to work!

Knowing this would be a lengthy process that would also involve additional body work, I turned to my good friend Bob who bobbed my bed earlier this year. His son, Russel, does great bumper and exocage work so I knew this would be a great match to get the job done. It would also be nice the Tacoma wouldn't be tied up in our shop for a while. I pitched to Russel that I'd like him to help me build a prototype bumper that I'd possibly one day want Marlin Crawler to manufacture and he said he'd be honored to help, and the rest as they say is history!

November 16, 2017: Tacoma Delivered

Bob's house is a 2-1/2 hour drive for me and to get the Tacoma to Bob's I planned to load all four 40s in the bed and just drive over with my wife as the chase vehicle. But Bob has a truck that is scheduled for work at MC, so, despite the fact I dislike towing my own vehicles as towing is highly unmanly, it worked out well. The Tacoma is too wide to fit on our trailer so I had to rent one. We pulled down my SST Pros that have been waiting patiently for me up in our warehouse, loaded em up in the back of our company tow rig, and that evening I made it safely back to Bob's!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 06:52:03 AM
November 29, 2017: Stage III officially begins!

After Thanksgiving I returned to Bob's and Russ and I got underway

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Slapped the 40s on the front and yanked the bumper off so we can start reviewing designs

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It looks WAY better already!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 06:52:22 AM
I was very pleased to see the front axle isn't too far back from the front of the frame. This wasn't so obvious with the factory warthog bumper on. We can work with this!

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You'll see my original TRD Sport grill on the ground a few pics up. I brought it along so that we didn't damage my precious SR grill during fabrication.

I like this huge gaping area here. I really wanted to leave the entire bumper off which includes the color keyed area beneath the headlight. This would reduce a lot of work during installation. No jigs, No cutting up your truck. Ability to resell your factory bumper...

We played for a while trying to get my idea to work which included intricate/compound tube work up and over to the outside. Bending limitations nullified my ideas and I refuse to settle for the "easy way out" of plate-steel.

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Some of my plans went out the window and we did the typical cut here on the factory bumper

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There is an added bonus of reusing the bumper and that is added support beneath the grill

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Here is the compromised design of the main tube

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 06:52:41 AM
December 6, 2017: Test driven with 40s for the first time!

The next week we got so sick of still seeing the 37s on the rear of the truck we dedicated our time to getting this truck rolling on 40s

When I tried mounting the 40s earlier this summer I couldn't even lower the truck off our lift. The fronts were okay but the rears directly contacted each fender.

Here are a couple pics of the fronts installed

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For the rear fenders what we did was trim one inch above which was blended into 2 inches front and back

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Installed and the truck on the ground for the first time ever rolling on 40s! :D :D :D

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Lengthwise shot. Looks worse due to no flares in the rear. The rear probably needs spacers. The rims are 17" x 9" and 4" (solid axle type) backspacing

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 06:53:45 AM
OHHHH MAN I THINK I CAN GET USED TO THIS!

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I took the truck out for a spin on the 40s!! Yes I was limited on how much I could turn but it wasn't a problem out on the open road.

Power
Power far surpassed my expectations. I was concerned about the horrible gearing for the stick-shift 3rd gen as 4.88s only provide a 14% reduction (vs. 25% reduction for you auto guys). I pulled out in front of traffic and it accelerated right up to cruising speed. All you 3.5-liter haters can suck it! I love this engine

Brakes
Brakes are rock solid and O.P.; Can't feel any loss in brake power

Of course loaded down in the hills will be more challenging for both systems. I have two tricks up my sleeves for both factors, reserved for later this year.

We spent the rest of the day working on my rear bumper design to figure out if I'd need to order any special tooling for it. As such the rear bumper will be missing in some upcoming pics. More on that for a later date ;) And that was it for the day!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 06:54:31 AM
December 13, 2017: Lower frame plate mocked up

The next week we built our first frame plate and figured out how we'd be hanging the side supports

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While I won't be keeping my factory tie down point, we will keep this as much bolt-on as possible

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Testing different ideas for side bracing

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 06:54:55 AM
December 29, 2017: Bumper now self-supported

After Christmas I made the journey back to the Taco and we made some great progress.

Russel bent-up the final main tube and we redesigned the lower frame plate. The main tube is made out of 2.0-inch DOM USA-steel.

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I'm really liking how this is turning out!!

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We built an updated lower plate, now using the typical eight bolt points

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 06:55:27 AM
Main tube tack welded and standing on its own!! The lower bracing is also 2.0-inch DOM USA-steel. Many mfgs use flat plate steel down here to reduce cost and manufacturing time. We'll have some plating but I'm trying to focus on tube where ever possible.

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Side view

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 06:56:12 AM
Welcome to 2018!!

January 4, 2018: Started on a winch mount

The next week we were back at it this time getting a winch mount incorporated. My entire wheel'n career I've never had a winch. Of course I like to say this is because I never get stuck hahahe but that's not true for anyone who has done some actual wheeling. I've had my share of being winched out of tough pickles, yes even by Jeeps. Also I've had my share of moving out of the way to get a rig up front with a winch. Marlin raised me with the 'help others first' mindset and it's painful when I cannot help someone because I don't have a winch. Looking forward to surpassing this with the Tacoma.

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Figuring out how high up we can stash a winch to prevent losing too much approach angle

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Many a rock is going to fall prey to this approach!!

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How the triangular plating will look behind the lower tubes

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 06:56:38 AM
My MR2 worked hard taking me back-and-forth a total of nine times (almost 50 hrs of driving!!) so I've gotta include at least one pic of its services. Thank you to my awesome first vehicle, now spending its 19th year with me. Popup headlights FTW!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 06:56:53 AM
January 10, 2018: CUT IT UP BABY!!!!!!!!!

I finally did it!! I trimmed my fenders like I should have back in July! OHHHHHHHH man I was super nervous doing this but it turned out better than I imagined!

My original concern was that I wanted to retain the original flares. I like them. They give the truck it's nice shoulders & stance. So I was going to order a complete set of four new flares and Bob was going to use his plastic welder to combined 8 flares (4 used, 4 new) into 4 new, wider flares that we'd mount higher up on the vehicle. Man oh man that sounded like so much work to me but Bob was like, "Sure Mike, it wouldn't be a problem at all." Professional body guys are crazy! Talent I can't even dream of having.

The easiest step would be to just trim the fenders first and then decide what to do about the flares later. I'll spare the suspense: I won't be keeping the flares.

Removing the front flares for the first time in history

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Whew, my fenders sure took a beating from the 37s + no trimming

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Passenger side not as bad

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As I've mentioned earlier I wasn't too concerned about this because within minutes this happened:

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HELL YEAH BUDDY!! I'm gonna make these 40s work with IFS or die trying!!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 06:57:39 AM
Rear with two possible cuts. We wanted to have the height of the rear fender lower than the front

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Russel laid out tape for me and I took an air powered body saw and did the trimming. Thank you Russ! I couldn't have done this without your guidance! Russel later reminded me how it's much easier when it's someone else's truck. Hahah so true buddy!

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Ohhhhhh my :o

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There will be much wheel-well modification before the truck can see another trail. For now we just painted it black

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Animated before and after!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 06:58:34 AM
January 12, 2018: Stinger mock-up

Two days later Russel had a short stinger mocked up. Looks great!! The throwback design is coming together! Follows a few of the factory body and grill lines while paying homage to the classic Marlin Crawler bumpers

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It's dark in these pictures but Russ finished up the winch mount. It is a 1.75" DOM USA-steel lower tube hoop with plated steel pedestal for a winch

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 06:59:09 AM
January 13, 2018: Prototype Marlin Crawler 3rd Gen Tacoma Front Bumper finished!

The very next day Russel had it all finished and Bob professionally painted is using Rust-Oleum. B-I-G Thank you Bob!!! I returned in our chase car with my wife and got this puppy installed!!

Russel widened the lower frame brace to add additional support for the side tubes but this meant the bumper could no longer be slipped over the factory lower-right tie down point which is now required to be cut off the frame before the bumper can be mounted.

I didn't weight it but the bumper is so light one person can easily install and remove it if needed. I love how it all came together! I love it!

I'll just let the pictures do all the talking!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 07:00:05 AM
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There was only 1 hour of daylight remaining and on my way back through the city before merging onto the final highway I had THREE people at red lights talk out their window saying how awesome the truck looks :o :o

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 07:00:56 AM
January 14, 2018: First day back at home on 40s and prototype Marlin Crawler front bumper

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That first day back home I couldn't even run to Starbucks without a guy stopping me in the parking lot asking questions about the truck. I showed him the TacoBox Crawler and the work I've done to make this happen, gave him my business card. While chatting I noticed bros wearing flatbills in their lifted American-brand full-size pavement pounders gazing over at the Taco while slowly driving by.

Heck yeah!! Get'n respect for the new 3rd gen like never before!! But there is A TON OF WORK still remaining to get this truck trail worthy again. Currently it's just eye candy. The next Rock Crawling event is in March. I'll work very hard to get it ready by then!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Feb 05, 2018, 08:24:42 AM
Not trying to steal your thunder, but how do you like this bumper.
It is a 2nd Gen bumper with the front fenders trimmed to make it fit.
This tucks the bumper up under the grill and leave huge holes in front of the tires.  I still have to trim the front body/radiator mount to gain the last few inches. But when trimmed the only three things a rock can hit is
1) left tire
2) right tire
3) bumper/skid plate.
Oops pics to follow.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: brettf on Feb 05, 2018, 08:48:53 AM
This thing looks great.  Must have taken hours and hours to work the tube shapes in just right... both on the top for the contour of the third gen grill/lines and on the side/support tubes.  From my screen here in Colorado the 40" knobs look like they'd be all up in the side tube's business, so I know you guys worked it, tested, measured, and adjusted, tested, rinsing and repeating until done!  Looks clean and simple, betraying the hours that went into that sucker.

Great job.  Keep the updates coming.  Stoked to see where the fenders end up going.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: H8PVMNT on Feb 05, 2018, 09:53:29 AM
Thank you for making a real bumper for this thing.  The giant, fender integrated plastic set of lips on the more recent Tacomas is one of the reasons I could never imagine using one as a build platform.  Now I can see past it  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 10:16:28 AM
Oops pics to follow.
Let's see em!

January 16-22, 2018: Miscellaneous pics around and about town

Random pics enjoying the new setup

1/16: Carrying an 8-foot folding table back to the shop

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Cropped version of the above

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 10:17:49 AM
1/18: Nice lunch time pic...

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...where I went to the far end of a parking lot just to park near another 3rd gen

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 10:19:11 AM
That same day at a different parking lot I found another magnetic gray DCSB, this time able to park next to a 3rd gen for my first comparison shot on 40s

If Drew is on here then my TacoBox-equipped '16 says Hi :)

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Annotated difference. That yellow tire approach angle :eyebrow: Whew lads

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Forgot to mention I got our Marlin Crawler Hawse Fairlead (https://www.marlincrawler.com/accessories/recovery-parts/hawse-fairlead) fitted

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Feb 05, 2018, 10:20:51 AM
1/23: Parked next to my friend's 1794 edition Tundra

Before you view these, know that my goal is not to have the tallest truck in town. In fact I'd like to lower the Tacoma nearly 2 inches. It will all depend on how much clearance work I can get done to the front inner fender walls...

Was still crazy to see the Tacoma nearly as large as a new Tundra. Dang.. the Taco is so massive :ack: Looks like I won't be calling my '81 Hilux a "Beast" any longer

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Couple more. Massive ground clearance difference yet about the same overall height lol

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 300k on Feb 05, 2018, 11:13:32 AM
wow.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: blackdiamond on Feb 05, 2018, 11:35:03 AM
I think the bumper looks fantastic and accomplishes exactly what you were going for.  The only thing that could be improved is possibly tightening up the bends on the top bar to better follow the body line.  There two triangle shaped voids that look a little out of place.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: redneckcustoms13 on Feb 05, 2018, 11:45:46 AM
I thought the same thing at first. I'm sure they tried it. That is some tight off angle bends to make though. If you were ok with cutting and welding to make those sharp bends I can see it happening. One stick with no welds just won't make those bends.  I dig it just the way it is though.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: H8PVMNT on Feb 05, 2018, 12:31:49 PM
I thought the same thing at first. I'm sure they tried it. That is some tight off angle bends to make though. If you were ok with cutting and welding to make those sharp bends I can see it happening. One stick with no welds just won't make those bends.  I dig it just the way it is though.

Yeah there is no way I could fit that in my die that tight.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Feb 05, 2018, 02:50:24 PM
Let's see em!

Hold on

..Flickr doesn't like me right now..
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: blackdiamond on Feb 05, 2018, 04:23:18 PM
I thought the same thing at first. I'm sure they tried it. That is some tight off angle bends to make though. If you were ok with cutting and welding to make those sharp bends I can see it happening. One stick with no welds just won't make those bends.  I dig it just the way it is though.

I assume that you are correct. Maybe going up and then over would cover the gap a bit more?  I don’t have paint on my phone...

It looks great as is. Just giving an opinion since it’s a prototype.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: daniresch on Feb 05, 2018, 08:28:44 PM
WOW! Lovin' the progress being made on this!
Curious to see what you'll do with the front wheel wells.
Are you still DD'ing this? Seeing your rear tire i would imagine a little hassle from the cops? I was surprised how nicely the 37s tucked previously.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: blackdiamond on Feb 06, 2018, 06:06:45 AM
Here's my other thought for the line of the top tube.  It's so hard to form a solid opinion of a tube bumper from pictures as they look different from every angle.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Feb 06, 2018, 07:10:24 AM
The tube bumper looks great.   If I lived in a place like CA or AZ, NM it would be my first choice.   But up here a plate bumper is far better.  A solid sheet of steel from wheel to wheel and from grill to skid plate.  Frozen snow banks that the plow left at the end of my driveway shatter on contact. Breaking trail in four feet of snow and it just plows. 

A lady has already wrecked her car doors on it. :smack: Side swiped the bumper and destroyed her two passenger side doors. :yupyup:  Cost me $6.29 to fix the bumper......had to buy one can of flat black spray paint.  The powder coat held up real well, just wanted to seal it to be safe. :thumbs:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Feb 08, 2018, 03:40:02 PM
damn mike!!!!!! holy smokes
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Feb 10, 2018, 02:23:39 PM
Let's see em!

OK here are the pics.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4624/39293983675_ebbe66b5da_m.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22SgWna)20170728_185037 (https://flic.kr/p/22SgWna) by MICHAEL DONCASTER (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153136756@N08/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4676/28411971799_b83f775767_m.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KhEMmK)20170728_185210 (https://flic.kr/p/KhEMmK) by MICHAEL DONCASTER (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153136756@N08/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4650/26319278488_3459a95bde_m.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/G6KbxA)20171022_110952 (https://flic.kr/p/G6KbxA) by MICHAEL DONCASTER (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153136756@N08/), on Flickr

I park on the snow banks now :thumbs:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4708/28411967309_c779fb59c5_m.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KhEL2k)20180124_162258 (https://flic.kr/p/KhEL2k) by MICHAEL DONCASTER (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153136756@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Feb 10, 2018, 02:45:22 PM
Let's see em!
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4715/40192427341_cd02cb7de6_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24eEGnc)DSCF1301 (https://flic.kr/p/24eEGnc) by MICHAEL DONCASTER (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153136756@N08/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4623/40192419411_39f90e3ba1_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24eEE1t)DSCF1337 (https://flic.kr/p/24eEE1t) by MICHAEL DONCASTER (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153136756@N08/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4617/40159560992_537ce9fc3f_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24bLfm1)DSCF1336 (https://flic.kr/p/24bLfm1) by MICHAEL DONCASTER (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153136756@N08/), on Flickr

Bonus Video..
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4614/39480621684_40910d1be6.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/239LvkS)DSCF1339 (https://flic.kr/p/239LvkS) by MICHAEL DONCASTER (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153136756@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Feb 10, 2018, 02:48:15 PM
Just to compare..
Yes that is a 5 Gallon Jerry can beside the wheel...Truck and trailer both use the same tire and rim size right now.Makes carrying spares easy.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4606/28412206359_1528e14d61.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KhFZ5T)20171015_122819 (https://flic.kr/p/KhFZ5T) by MICHAEL DONCASTER (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153136756@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Gnarly4X on Feb 11, 2018, 06:16:56 AM
My experience with front bumpers is different.

On my 1986 Long Bed, I had a Ramsey 8,000 and a Ramsey bumper.  I looked gnarly, but it was WAY too heavy for the IFS suspension. On the highway and wheeling, the added weight hanging on the front end was very noticeable.  Since I only used the winch twice in about 12 months, for winching another wheeler, I found it was not a benefit to have it mounted permanently.  If I were to buy another winch for a daily driver and part time wheeler, I would design and fabricate a dual receiver mount to make a quick disconnect.

The tube bumpers I’ve had on my trucks have been custom made, mainly for a tight snug fit.  They looked nice, but were not *really* functional when rock crawling.  Two reasons, 1 – they were too weak to really protect the front end for a heavy hit, and 2 – if I hit a rock with the front bumper I was on the wrong line, or the obstacle was too vertical and too high for my angle of approach.  If I am rock crawling and find my front bumper area is banging into rocks, I would move the front axle forward or go with some bigger tires.  I never had a problem with my Toy trucks.

In all my years of off-roading, I found that the lighter the better and tried to reduce and minimize weight whenever I could.

In the sand dunes with my 1985 22R short bed, just dropping the spare tire and removing the tailgate made a VERY noticeable difference.  At the cinders in Northern AZ, extra weight was a speed killer.

Gnarls.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Apr 09, 2018, 02:18:54 PM
BigMike, updates?!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 09, 2018, 05:12:46 PM
Sorry guys, I've been quite busy this spring as usual. I've spent my free time getting our Trip Reports updated on both Facebook Albums (https://www.facebook.com/178624092724/photos/?tab=albums) and our Website Gallery (https://www.marlincrawler.com/gallery). (I was previously more than 1 year behind on trip reports.) Now with those updated, I can update my Tacoma Trip Report Thread (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=102737) which is 8-months behind. So I've got some work to do still.

I was supposed to have already done four trips this year with the Tacoma: One in Canada, one in California, one in Arizona, and one in Texas. I've missed them all because I haven't gotten the Tacoma ready for the trails again yet.

Currently, both diffs are out again for new prototype 5.29:1 R&P gears from NITRO, as well as changing my final drive ratio to a cool 580:1.

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2FSmileys%2Fmarlin%2Fsmokin.gif&hash=d7558f42615cd2b92c70e5bc67ba11fa)

I'm still waiting on a few machined parts to complete what I believe to be the strongest street-legal steering upgrade for the 2nd and 3rd gen Tacoma platform (hopefully also compatible with early FJ C and 4th gen 4R). To illustrate, my Tie Rod Ends have gone from their factory spec 15mm up to now 23mm (135% STRONGER!!!), the diameter of the inner tie rod where it commonly fails has gone from 13.97mm to 21.75mm (142% STRONGER!!!!!!!).....................guys that is over 2.4 times stronger than stock :sheerterror:, and my steering rack is now 49% heavier and massively stronger than stock :o

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2FSmileys%2Fmarlin%2Fsmokin.gif&hash=d7558f42615cd2b92c70e5bc67ba11fa)

My steering has been upgraded so beyond a night and day difference that I need a new idiom to describe it. At this point I'd be willing to stress-test it through a trail with my 40s aired down to 1 PSI in 1st gear 4WD with the rear drive line removed. That is how confident I am about it. It won't break, which means other things will break, which is great because I'm continuing to push the IFS envelop further and further where it hasn't gone before. To this end, I am already anticipating the next failure and am well underway in developing additional components, especially now with a certain company no longer in business I have zero reservations holding me back.

I plan to test out multiple prototype parts in Hollister the last weekend of this month before driving the truck 3,400 miles round-trip to Texas the first week of May for the Toyota Jamboree. :thumbs:

It would be beneficial for me that I get this thread updated before I leave for Texas.

Regards,
BigMike

I guess I can't end without a few parting photos. Driving this truck around on 40s has been incredible! Looking forward to sharing some stories. I now have over 500 street and highway miles on the new steering setup :beerchug:

From March 23:
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From March 24:
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and from March 29:
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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Hilux_Max on Apr 09, 2018, 05:45:57 PM
Sorry guys, I've been quite busy this spring as usual. I've spent my free time getting our Trip Reports updated on both Facebook Albums (https://www.facebook.com/178624092724/photos/?tab=albums) and our Website Gallery (https://www.marlincrawler.com/gallery). (I was previously more than 1 year behind on trip reports.) Now with those updated, I can update my Tacoma Trip Report Thread (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=102737) which is 8-months behind. So I've got some work to do still.

I was supposed to have already done four trips this year with the Tacoma: One in Canada, one in California, one in Arizona, and one in Texas. I've missed them all because I haven't gotten the Tacoma ready for the trails again yet.

Currently, both diffs are out again for new prototype 5.29:1 R&P gears from NITRO, as well as changing my final drive ratio to a cool 580:1.

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2FSmileys%2Fmarlin%2Fsmokin.gif&hash=d7558f42615cd2b92c70e5bc67ba11fa)

I'm still waiting on a few machined parts to complete what I believe to be the strongest street-legal steering upgrade for the 2nd and 3rd gen Tacoma platform (hopefully also compatible with early FJ C and 4th gen 4R). To illustrate, my Tie Rod Ends have gone from their factory spec 14mm up to now 23mm (170% STRONGER!!!!!!!), the diameter of the inner tie rod where it commonly fails has gone from 13.97mm to 21.75mm (142% STRONGER!!!!!!!).....................guys that is over 2.4 times stronger than stock :sheerterror:, and my steering rack is now 49% heavier and massively stronger than stock :o

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2FSmileys%2Fmarlin%2Fsmokin.gif&hash=d7558f42615cd2b92c70e5bc67ba11fa)

My steering has been upgraded so beyond a night and day difference that I need a new idiom to describe it. At this point I'd be willing to stress-test it through a trail with my 40s aired down to 1 PSI in 1st gear 4WD with the rear drive line removed. That is how confident I am about it. It won't break, which means other things will break, which is great because I'm continuing to push the IFS envelop further and further where it hasn't gone before. To this end, I am already anticipating the next failure and am well underway in developing additional components, especially now with a certain company no longer in business I have zero reservations holding me back.

I plan to test out multiple prototype parts in Hollister the last weekend of this month before driving the truck 3,400 miles round-trip to Texas the first week of May for the Toyota Jamboree. :thumbs:

It would be beneficial for me that I get this thread updated before I leave for Texas.

Regards,
BigMike

I guess I can't end without a few parting photos. Driving this truck around on 40s has been incredible! Looking forward to sharing some stories. I now have over 500 street and highway miles on the new steering setup :beerchug:

From March 23:
(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2Fimages%2F2016-tacoma%2Fmisc%2F180323-01.jpg&hash=ef86bbd87004dbca8830c7e6ddca1ec8)

From March 24:
(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2Fimages%2F2016-tacoma%2Fmisc%2F180324-01.jpg&hash=c31791c186461b850889f48a1c26aca3)

and from March 29:
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Looking forward to thr steering rack torture test Mike. Will the trial components be available individually to rebuild/upgrade existing steering racks, or will you be selling complete built racks only?

Keep the good work up.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: yota_2128 on Apr 10, 2018, 07:12:05 AM
Wow, I can't wait to see this thing at the fj summit again this year. I was already drooling over it last year when it was on 37s. I'm incredibly happy someone is taking the time to build parts to make the newer generation trucks truly capable

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Apr 10, 2018, 10:54:48 AM
unbelievable! Im about to get into a 2nd or 3rd gen, and knowing you're doing these testing and upgrades. excites me. im in awe everytime you post about this!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Wainiha on Apr 10, 2018, 11:45:39 AM
Does this mean a short throw shifter will be developed? 
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2018, 11:48:58 AM
I think the bumper looks fantastic and accomplishes exactly what you were going for.  The only thing that could be improved is possibly tightening up the bends on the top bar to better follow the body line.  There two triangle shaped voids that look a little out of place.
Thanks for the comment BD. We did consider tightening that bend and also adding smaller diameter tubing to close it up, but as others mentioned the die (especially our larger than normal 2" die) couldn't possibly get tighter bends in there. I also considered adding flat plate.....but then I'd be departing from the tubular design I'm trying to pay homage to.

During the design process I did compare the gap to our classic 1st gen bumper, and while this is not as pronounced as it is on the Tacoma (specifically in the head-on view), gaps do exist even on our MC bumpers of yesteryear. I know this is a stretch comparison at best, but it helped me get over the void during the design stage.

(https://board.marlincrawler.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.marlincrawler.com%2Fimages%2F2016-tacoma%2F00937-ct.jpg&hash=a271ba5d5096a665486ed4309b3aa93e)

unbelievable! Im about to get into a 2nd or 3rd gen, and knowing you're doing these testing and upgrades. excites me. im in awe everytime you post about this!
I'm incredibly happy someone is taking the time to build parts to make the newer generation trucks truly capable
Thank you THK Matt and yota_2128. You guys will be surprised in the number of private forum and FB message I've been receiving of people excited to see what's going to come out of this new IFS strength research and development. I am not even an IFS guy at heart but this has been a really enjoyable journey and hear me now, believe me later that this is only just the beginning of what I'm already working on. :greengrin:

In all my years of off-roading, I found that the lighter the better and tried to reduce and minimize weight whenever I could.
X2

Does this mean a short throw shifter will be developed? 
Sorry my Hawaiian friend, I know you've been waiting for this but I've got larger fish to fry on maximum heat at the moment, hopefully coming to fruition in the way of testing new prototypes at this year's Round Up.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2018, 11:49:27 AM
January 23, 2018 (continued): 40" tire tread wasn't big enough

That evening I got home to discover the following road gift:

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Less than 150 miles on the new tires and my Driver's Rear got spiked

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It was a slow leak: About 4 psi per day so nothing I couldn't manage driving around town with. A couple days later I removed it and patched the tire. Holy hell that was a serious impalement!!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2018, 12:02:11 PM
January 26, 2018: My IFS Steering Upgrade Officially Begins

A few days later the truck was back in the shop, this time for a complete IFS Steering System Overhaul!

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I have been keeping a very tight lid on my steering upgrade project. By this time I already had four months of research into it and was ready to get measurements and start test fitting.

The next event was King Of The Hammers and my goal was to show up one weekend early to take a group of Tacomas through a few trails, ideally and specifically, Solid Axle Swapped Tacomas. It would be awesome to have my Marlin Crawler-powered IFS Tacoma tackle the same difficult Hammers trails alongside SAS'd Tacomas. I did manage to get four SAS'd Tacomas committed but ultimately had to cancel. There was no way I'd get the Steering upgraded in time to run these 40s off-road, least I forget I still have inner fender trimming to do.

I don't think I've discussed this yet and I'd like to bring up what I believe is that there is no 2005+ Tacoma IFS Rock Crawling steering solution available today.

Here is my reasoning for this:


1. In our experience and types of trails we wheel, a 35" tire is about the minimum you'd want to use to truly go Rock Crawling.

Yes, you can be a Rock Crawler with 33s, but for example, 33s is considered by most a small tire for use on trails such as the Hammers in southern California. Further, most Marlin Crawler-equipped solid front axle Pickups and 4Runners are running 35s & 37s on the Rubicon. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority is actually 37s.

2. If we can agree that 35" is a basic entry tire size for the serious Rock Crawler, then we have a problem in that it is already a known fact that the 2005+ factory IFS steering fails with 35" tires in the rocks.

I've already seen and experienced this first-hand. Custom inner tie rods (ITR) have been developed and even sold by at least one prominent company, however, kits are either discontinued or include disclaimers due to the fact that once the ITR is upgraded the factory steering rack fails, even with 35" tires. Surely the serious IFS Tacoma Rock Crawler shouldn't be expected to carry spare P/S Racks...

In fact, since January, I've had almost a dozen people contact me who have broke their own steering racks: Tacoma, 4Runner, and FJ C owners running 35" and 37" tires. It is a known issue that factory racks do not hold up in the rocks.

3. Therefore, we must conclude that the factory IFS steering should not be used for even the base-line of Rock Crawling.

More specifically it cannot be trusted. This is one of a few reasons to go SAS that I'll have to tackle if I'm to damper the status quo.

4. In conclusion, I must develop IFS steering strong enough (as I will find out through my own testing with 40" tires) for the serious Rock Crawler thereby creating the World's First Actual Rock Crawling-Specific Tacoma IFS solution on the market.

This is my goal with the project and I have been very busy over here getting this developed.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: blackdiamond on Apr 19, 2018, 12:07:40 PM
Thanks for the comment BD. We did consider tightening that bend and also adding smaller diameter tubing to close it up, but as others mentioned the die (especially our larger than normal 2" die) couldn't possibly get tighter bends in there. I also considered adding flat plate.....but then I'd be departing from the tubular design I'm trying to pay homage to.

During the design process I did compare the gap to our classic 1st gen bumper, and while this is not as pronounced as it is on the Tacoma (specifically in the head-on view), gaps do exist even on our MC bumpers of yesteryear. I know this is a stretch comparison at best, but it helped me get over the void during the design stage.

As a general rule I am not a fan of tube bumpers, but with late model rigs the plate style bumpers are so large and bulky to cover everything I have not seen one that really looks good to me.  For example, the pictures posted earlier in this thread by V-man show a massive plate bumper that, to me, looks best suited for elk "hunting" (i.e. running them over on the highway) or a staring role in Mad Max. Your tube bumper is the best looking option that I've seen so far.  I like things to be covered up, but also lean and clean which is a hard combination with most of the new rigs.

Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: blackdiamond on Apr 19, 2018, 12:14:00 PM
More specifically it cannot be trusted. This is one of a few reasons to go SAS that I'll have to tackle to change the status quo.

For this to have a real chance of changing the paradigm of potential customers it'll not only need to be proven to be a strong as the SAS solution, but will likely need to be a less invasive solution (i.e. more bolt-on), have a similar cost, and be able to rely on the rest of the IFS components to hold up similarly to an SAS.

I'm sure none of this is new to you and I wish you good luck with this project.  It's a significant challenge for sure!

Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Apr 19, 2018, 03:53:31 PM
Once again, breaking ground in the off-road community. Bravo Mike!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2018, 04:56:00 PM
To illustrate, my Tie Rod Ends have gone from their factory spec 14mm up to now 23mm (170% STRONGER!!!!!!!)

Apologies for this but I have a correction to make. In working on future replies to this thread, I realized I used the wrong number here: 14mm is the thread size from the Inner Tie Rod (ITR) to the Rack, not from the ITR to TRE.

For the ITR to TRE, the stock thread size is 15mm. The strength difference between a 15mm solid round component and the MarRack's 23mm is 135%. I have updated my previous reply to reflect this. :thumbs:

In other news, I took a boot off the MarRack last night and have a new metric: For the diameter of the actual internal rack itself, stock is 30.61mm and the MarRack is 37.95mm for a minimum actual Steering Rack strength increase of 54% :cool: ("Minimum" due to the MarRack pinion gear is larger, the overall body is larger, it's wider so there is more support on the rack at full steering lock in either direction, it's all one-piece aluminum, mounting hardware is larger, and so on.)
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2018, 05:30:48 PM
January 26, 2018 (continued): My IFS Steering Upgrade Officially Begins

The first day dissassembling the truck was mostly regarding taking measurements and figuring out geometry hurdles. I had at my disposal almost ten different power steering steering racks from both domestic and foreign vehicles all larger and stronger than my factory Tacoma unit. Prior to this day, while the Tacoma was away for bumper work, I had spent over three months doing preliminary research for possible candidates. The details surrounding the rack I used are proprietary and from hereon in keeping with Marlin Crawler tradition shall be referred to as the MarRack!!

Disassembling the front end again...

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RCV Boots not happy with me :(

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With the coilovers out for the umpteenth time, I am considering installing these longer lower eyelets and ditch the silly top spacers I've been running since my second Rubicon trip

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2018, 05:34:31 PM
January 28, 2018: Removed factory rack

That same weekend I discovered this!! Look at this crap!! My power steering pump is already leaking!! At only 15K miles!! Come awn Toyota. I wonder if this is covered under warranty?

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Hard to tell if it's the input seal. The high press line is tight and does not appear to be leaking. After looking at this pics I realized I haven't investigated in detail if it's coming from above. The oil seems to spread out radially from the p/s pump....

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Factory rack drained, lines disconnected, and on it's way out

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2018, 05:52:49 PM
With the stock Rack out I was able to get all my measurements and test fit the new MarRack. But I had to get the truck back on the road in order to have it in our booth for the King Of The Hammers in less than a week so I quickly put it all back together minus the front differential (since I wouldn't be needing it unfortunately)

As these a-arms are only prototype pieces, I never bothered to paint them. In fact, I wasn't expecting to even use them for more than a few months. But more on this topic later. For now, it was quite easy to remove the lower arms and at least spray paint them like I should have when I first installed them. *idiot*

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By this time my RCV Ultimate CV shafts were in transit back to Illinois to get new boots fitted, so in order to drive the truck down south I needed at least something installed at the hub. Knowing I have spare +2" inner chromo shafts but no joints, I purchased el-cheapo remanufactured CVs and promptly cut them up.

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For now all that is of value to me is the outer CV. After I get the RCV shafts back I'll simply rebuild these remanuf. units with longer inners as trail spares

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And wa-la! Everything back together minus axles and the front diff. Looks so much better with the lower a-arms painted *idiot*

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2018, 05:55:45 PM
Out of the shop for some pics

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Here you can see the outer CVs installed. I spray painted them black so they won't rust

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I think I haven't mentioned this either, but I'm not sporting our bling'n Billet MC Hawse Fairlead. I do plan to get a winch, but at the moment have larger fish to fry, and with the Crawler, a winch is a low priority

https://www.marlincrawler.com/accessories/recovery-parts/hawse-fairlead (https://www.marlincrawler.com/accessories/recovery-parts/hawse-fairlead)

(https://www.marlincrawler.com/sites/default/files/hawse-winch-fairlead.jpg)

It is very hard to walk away from this thing without being tempted to take more pictures!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2018, 06:01:26 PM
February 4, 2018: Final KOH Prep

With only a day remaining until KOH, I did some interior work...

Finally got my Forward Facing Rock Crawling Camera switch installed to the far left of the lower row of dash switches using a simple three position mini toggle switch (sorry don't have a pic of it)

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I also installed a nice dual USB port with DC digital volt display ordered from Amazon here (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077P7GYG6/). Crap, I don't have a photo of this either. Ok I'll have to update this post later with a couple more pics. The dual USB outlet fit very nice and I like the blue digital readout, however, it is NOT a 2.1 Amp charger as advertised on Amazon---it's only 1 Amp. For that reason I left a 1-star review :D

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I also installed a Crux AVITY-01 HDMI to RCA input adapter kit that I got a smoke'n deal on last summer... I can now mirror my iPhone directly to the in-dash factory display. Very cool!

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And finally, I got rid of the blasted key-in-ignition door open warning chime by simply disconnecting this one plug! (THANK YOU @PB FAB on TW (https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/3rd-gen-door-open-key-ignition-bell-delete.485704/#post-14882872)!)

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Just about ready to go!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2018, 06:08:20 PM
February 5, 2018: Off to KOH!

I'll need to update my Trip Report thread with these, but for now I'll share smaller resolutions to push through the event here.

The Tacoma drives well on the open road with 40s. Once in the hills however I can see the 4.88s are definitely too high (no surprise).

Stock tires (30.6") with stock R&P (4.30) is a 7.116 ratio. Comparatively speaking, my 40s (measure about 39.5") with 4.88s is a 8.094 ratio or geared 13.7% too tall. At this point I was still working with Nitro in hopes they will make a 5.29:1 for the new larger 3rd gen rear differential, and if that happens then I'd only be geared 4.9% too tall. This would be f-a-r better than these 4.88s + 40" tires, 64% better in fact.

I still have not fixed my speedometer at this time and can only estimate my fuel mileage using published mileage/distances. I'm estimating at 70 MPH to be just over 15 MPG. More on this later.

Getting gas in Tehachapi

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Wooooooooohoooooooooooooo!! New TacoBox sticker!! HELL YEAH!

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Love this truck!

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Finally inside of Hammer Town for the first time with the Tacoma!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2018, 06:17:18 PM
Only gonna post a few KOH event pics to the build thread here

We had multiple people think the truck was 2WD beings it didn't have a front end or axles. Also had people informing me that there is no way the factory steering was gonna hold up to the 40s and how I should just SAS it and how much of an idiot I am for doing this and yadda yadda yadda. If they only knew!!

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All done & heading home!

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I'll update this post with a link to my Trip Report thread (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=102737) once I get it updated
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2018, 06:38:28 PM
February 16, 2018: MarRack fitted

Back home from the Hammers, I must have installed & removed the MarRack over a dozen times figuring everything out. The simple nature of the upcoming photos does not express the amount of time and energy I've put into this steering project.

Removing the stock Rack again!

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Here is a stock 2005+ Tacoma rack (no fluid):

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2018, 06:52:16 PM
And finally, Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you the MarRack, soon to be the Strongest Street-legal Steering Upgrade Kit for the 6cyl 3rd gen Tacoma!!

Hopefully also (test-fit pending): All 2005+ Tacomas, 2003-09 4Runners, 2003-09 Lexus GX, and 2007-09 FJ Cruiser. In theory, it should be compatible with all these models, however, because I don't know the shapes and placement of the 2TR/1GR/2UZ oil pans/oil cooler lines/air conditioning lines/automatic transmission lines, we will need to test fit each application one-at-a-time to know what is and is not compatible. I'll say this much: It is a very tight fit beneath the 2GR.

The MarRack is being designed as the de facto IFS Steering Upgrade Kit for the daily driven serious IFS Rock Crawler:

I'm claiming for it to be "at least" as good as the numbers say because when you consider all points as a complete system it is going to be night-and-day stronger than the factory setup. Moreover, I am leveraging to the Rock Crawler's advantage multiple geometry changes that otherwise cannot be done to really put together a package, as you will see, that blows the doors off anything on the road today.

Seriously guys the MarRack is not playing around. I fully expect it to be more than strong enough for 40" tires in the rocks and I'll be beating the hell out of it to verify my claim :shades:

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Hilux_Max on Apr 19, 2018, 07:01:04 PM
Mike. Awesome work.  Just wondering, is there a way to limit steering angle at all within the rack design if someone wanted to to allow more tyre clearance?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2018, 07:05:28 PM
Where the MarRack will attempt to make history!

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It is very snug in there!

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View from the back without the front differential assembly

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Here is the only required frame modification: A new, large hole for the oversized passenger side mount

This will require a drill and welder to install an oversized inner frame tube welded from the bottom in the reverse manner as the factory mount's inner frame tube

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This is a huge 14mm bolt replacing the factory 11mm factory bolt (minimum 62% stronger)

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The driver side mount shares above the sub frame with the differential bolt. At 13mm, it is also larger than the factory 11mm driver side rack bolt. (Of course in these photos the front differential is not installed.)

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2018, 07:08:10 PM
Mike. Awesome work.  Just wondering, is there a way to limit steering angle at all within the rack design if someone wanted to to allow more tyre clearance?
Not at the rack itself, but rather add material to the steering stops between the bottom of the spindle and the lower a-arm to safely limit steering angle :thumbs:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2018, 07:12:36 PM
WHEW LADS!! My truck has a nice Rack! ;) ;)

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Installed (again, no front diff at this moment) (yes of course I've already verified fitment)

There is a lot more than meets the eye here. There is a good dozen custom components required to make everything jive, half of which are still prototypes, plus more this thread has not gotten to yet. Before we can offer this as an over-the-counter ready to install Kit, we'll need to start manufacturing parts. With all the other work I've got slated for this summer, it will be at the very least until later this year before production will be ready. But, you know, this is a good thing: I need to freak'n test it!! Currently all this talk is just proof of concept. Numbers don't mean jack crap until proven on the trail. I am quite happy to play the Guinea pig here :D

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: toyyota on Apr 19, 2018, 07:52:58 PM
Best Tacoma in the WORLD !!!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Rockcrawlintoy on Apr 19, 2018, 08:08:16 PM
This is a serious game changer. If this was avaliable back in 2015 I would have considered an toyota instead of my jeep. Nice fairlead though. My jeep has one like it  :D

*** edit **** had an auto correct error
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2018, 08:49:47 PM
Best Tacoma in the WORLD !!!
I'll settle for a participation award :gap:

This is a serious game changer.
Here's to hoping it goes somewhere big!! :beer:

Nice fairlead though. My jeep has one like it  :D
Hahaha :rofl:

Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2018, 08:52:53 PM
February 18, 2018: Begin Tire to Body Clearancing

After finishing the "easy" part of getting the MarRack installed, I was waiting for alignment/geometry parts (time consuming work) and had moved on to Tire-to-Body Clearancing

Here is the 40" Cooper with 4.00" backspaced 17" wheels and +2" longer a-arms at as far up travel as it can go before, well, see the pics for yourself :-/

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Oof.

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Ooof.

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Oooooooooooooof. Mind you this is only the tire pointing straight.

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2018, 08:59:55 PM
February 18, 2018 (continued): Begin Tire to Body Clearancing

Inward front tire clearancing: Commence!

Step 1: Increase room at wheel-well front:

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Step2: Increase room at wheel-well upper-front:

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Sharpie lines look good about here.

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Good riddance windshield spray reservoir! Just kidding, however I did ditch the reservoir on both my MR2 and 1981 Hilux. But this truck is too nice & I'd like to keep things functional. As you can imagine it's quite the low priority, but I plan to cut the plastic, lower it's height, and glue it back together. Done.

Looking good, looooooking good

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 19, 2018, 09:02:16 PM
February 18, 2018 (continued): Begin Tire-to-Body Clearancing

Ok! Full frontal stuff achieved at full spindle steering lock! Woooooohooooooooo!

The tire rubs on the front bumper tube. Great to know; These are the things prototyping is meant for!

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New Engine Bay Feature: 40" Tire Treads :D

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And that was it for Day No.1

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 300k on Apr 20, 2018, 12:58:56 AM
sweet.


and I'm jealous of your massive Toyota emblem
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Rok Monky on Apr 20, 2018, 07:31:36 AM
And finally, Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you the MarRack, soon to be the Strongest Street-legal Steering Upgrade Kit for the 6cyl 3rd gen Tacoma!!

Hopefully also (test-fit pending): All 2005+ Tacomas, 2003-09 4Runners, 2003-09 Lexus GX, and 2007-09 FJ Cruiser. In theory, it should be compatible with all these models, however, because I don't know the shapes and placement of the 2TR/1GR/2UZ oil pans/oil cooler lines/air conditioning lines/automatic transmission lines, we will need to test fit each application one-at-a-time to know what is and is not compatible. I'll say this much: It is a very tight fit beneath the 2GR.


Obviously a long way to go on this but are there plans to Come up with an upgrade for the 5th gen 4 runners??
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BUDDERS on Apr 22, 2018, 05:31:18 PM
Sweet truck Mike!  Once you've tested everything, are you planning on selling the bumper, Rack and Pinion and suspensnion?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 22, 2018, 09:48:43 PM
and I'm jealous of your massive Toyota emblem
Once I get the thread caught up to the present I'll have something cool to show you :)

Obviously a long way to go on this but are there plans to Come up with an upgrade for the 5th gen 4 runners??
What I've done won't translate directly to the 5th gen 4R. Things will need to be redesigned. But before I get ahead of myself, I still need to verify if it will fit in the 4th gen. On paper it will fit, but what I don't know is the shape of the oil pan, where the A/C lines run, etc. I will be looking at a lot of newer trucks in two weeks so I'll have a better approximation then and will try to remember a follow-up response on this come mid-May :thumbs:

Sweet truck Mike!  Once you've tested everything, are you planning on selling the bumper, Rack and Pinion and suspensnion?
Thanks Budders! Yes, yes, and yes, however it's gonna take some time...

Regards,
BigMike
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 22, 2018, 09:54:07 PM
February 23, 2018: Tire-to Body-Clearancing Day No.2

Next was to tackle clearance at the cab.

On older Hilux pickups and Hilux 4Runners, it's a pretty simple process, especially when the older trucks either don't have carpet or only have a vinyl floor covering. Very few wires or items to move. No insulation or sound deadening materials. Generally not too concerned with smoke in the cab or how hot things get. And so on.

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We do have to trim quite far because with leaf springs the tire travels up and back, fortunately that doesn't apply to me because this was a pain to do on the Tacoma.

Interior carpet, insulation, and fuse box moved aside

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Start cut'n!

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Geeeeeeeez these newer trucks are a huge complicated sheetmetal mess!! I can see how they get such good crash test scores, have a nice quiet interior, and how they can be so dang heavy...

It. Was. Nasty. There was a lot of plastic pieces, and the seam sealer required between so many joints was a pain in the butt to remove and/or cut through

I originally planned to remove the entire body mount from the frame and make a new one with a new hole drilled in the cab, but actually thanks to my prototype lower A-Arms, the tire just barely clears the forward-facing mount bracket bolt and I decided to leave it be. I think once a plate goes over this it will contact the tire, but, this could be a good thing as it would keep the tire away from weaker sheetmetal parts.

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But, can't let the small things get to me when I've got a clear vision for this Tacoma and know what has to be done to get there.

Here is the passenger tire at full up-travel and full right steering spindle lock

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: blackdiamond on Apr 22, 2018, 10:00:46 PM
And then your next set of tires are just a little bit bigger!  At least you're working with pretty new tires...
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 22, 2018, 10:04:36 PM
February 25, 2018: Tire-to Body-Clearancing Day No.3

Now that I had the cutting done on the passenger side, I just needed to replicate it on the driver's. Knowing where to cut made it so much easier and I ended up cutting less and doing a cleaner job the second time around

Here is where I cut to open up the front of the cab

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Area beneath the factory battery tray. I wasn't too concerned with the battery tray because in early June I plan to relocate the battery off of the cab (a heavy item that contributes to cab cracks on older trucks) and under the bed, so I'll be drilling out the factory battery spot welds and removing the tray before summer. (I have to wait for a certain particular project scheduled for the last weekend of May to know where the battery will be relocated.)

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Dealing with the fuse box and associated harnesses was a PITA. I am using a plasma cutter and imagine if I were to hit a harness; In the blink of an eye I'd have to replace the entire thing!!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 22, 2018, 10:06:28 PM
February 25, 2018 (continued): Tire-to Body-Clearancing Day No.3

Starting on the interior. Was a bit more crowded in here due to a larger fuse box, and of course pedals & steering wheel

On both sides I was able to preserve the factory firewall studs that both hold plastic trim down as well as a styrofoam block that makes up the driver foot rest

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What a difference it was knowing what and where to cut. Cut a lot less over here.

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Now I can clear 40s while turning!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 22, 2018, 10:08:23 PM
February 28, 2018: Tire-to Body-Clearancing Day No.4

All that was left was to plate everything up and do some weather proofing

I took way too many pictures and don't need to bore the thread with details. I'll just post a few up...

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 22, 2018, 10:09:35 PM
February 28, 2018 (continued): Tire-to Body-Clearancing Day No.4

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Finally, I went ahead and trimmed regions about 11 & 2 o-clock above each tire. In my current setup, this was unnecessary, however, should I design more up-travel in future setups then I wouldn't have to revisit this process. Might as well get it out of the way now

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 22, 2018, 10:10:57 PM
March 1, 2018: Tire-to Body-Clearancing Day No.5

Seam sealer, paint, rubberized protective undercoating, and call it a wrap!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 22, 2018, 10:12:08 PM
March 1, 2018 (continued): Tire-to Body-Clearancing Day No.5

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(I did seal the area at both body mount bolts after these pics)

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And wa-la!

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Can't even tell!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 22, 2018, 10:13:26 PM
March 1, 2018 (continued): Rear Fender Supports

Because I had to remove rear inner fender bracing (got lobbed off with the fenders), I needed to replace some support. I thought these stainless steel TIG welding rods turning out nicely :)

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: yota_2128 on Apr 23, 2018, 07:05:53 AM
You going to the summit again? Can't wait to get to see this again

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Apr 24, 2018, 12:03:43 PM
As a general rule I am not a fan of tube bumpers, but with late model rigs the plate style bumpers are so large and bulky to cover everything I have not seen one that really looks good to me.  For example, the pictures posted earlier in this thread by V-man show a massive plate bumper that, to me, looks best suited for elk "hunting" (i.e. running them over on the highway) or a staring role in Mad Max. Your tube bumper is the best looking option that I've seen so far.  I like things to be covered up, but also lean and clean which is a hard combination with most of the new rigs.

My "Massive" plate bumper weights less then 190LBS.  Sits very high on the frame so it gives lots of ground clearance and a approach angle of almost 50 degrees.  I can also idle up to a snow/creek bank and slide the truck up on the bumper till the wheels grip.  As for elk....not a lot of them around here, but deer, coyotes, bears, wolves.  It's a strong bumper and I have already had a woman drive across the face of it and open the right side of her car like a cheap aluminum can on the shackle mounts.  She wrote off her car and I had to spend $12 on spray paint.  :yesnod:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: blackdiamond on Apr 24, 2018, 12:12:36 PM
My "Massive" plate bumper weights less then 190LBS.  Sits very high on the frame so it gives lots of ground clearance and a approach angle of almost 50 degrees.  I can also idle up to a snow/creek bank and slide the truck up on the bumper till the wheels grip.  As for elk....not a lot of them around here, but deer, coyotes, bears, wolves.  It's a strong bumper and I have already had a woman drive across the face of it and open the right side of her car like a cheap aluminum can on the shackle mounts.  She wrote off her car and I had to spend $12 on spray paint.  :yesnod:

Sorry to call you out and wasn't intending to question the quality or functionality of your bumper.  The look of a bumper is all personal preference it was an excellent example to refer to in my post simply due to it's proximity in the thread.  I don't like many tube bumpers, but from what I can tell the one BigMike made for his Tacoma looks really good and for my preferences one of the best looking bumpers I have seen so far.  I was fortunate enough to get one of the last (the last or 2nd to last) front bumper from FROR for my 4Runner that looks about as close to stock as possible and is very light though I have never weighed.  The ARB bumpers have always been a favorite for looks, but they are quite a bit more heavy than what I have and cost more.

I should weigh my bumper the next time it comes off, so hopefully never... :crossed:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Apr 24, 2018, 12:44:51 PM
Sorry to call you out and wasn't intending to question the quality or functionality of your bumper.  The look of a bumper is all personal preference it was an excellent example to refer to in my post simply due to it's proximity in the thread.  I don't like many tube bumpers, but from what I can tell the one BigMike made for his Tacoma looks really good and for my preferences one of the best looking bumpers I have seen so far.  I was fortunate enough to get one of the last (the last or 2nd to last) front bumper from FROR for my 4Runner that looks about as close to stock as possible and is very light though I have never weighed.  The ARB bumpers have always been a favorite for looks, but they are quite a bit more heavy than what I have and cost more.

I should weigh my bumper the next time it comes off, so hopefully never... :crossed:

Well it does not matter if you were intending to question my bumper or not.....I am going to pretend to be insulted.  :yupyup:

ARB bumpers weigh a ton, but they are designed to push 1200 to 2000lbs cattle around on a station( what the aussie call a ranch). 

There are just no tube bumpers out there for newer trucks. With so much expensive parts hanging out front you can see why.  I bought the premium full coverage with tube hoops to protect the lights and grill from limbs. I will also be adding limb risers to lift tree limbs up and over the windshield.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Apr 24, 2018, 12:51:11 PM
Mike can I add the MarRack to my Tacoma without having to change all my control arms and other steering parts.  I will not be running tires over 35's ( 35's are larger then most overland trucks normally run)but the strength increase would be great.

I am sitting on a 3 inch lift, and have uniball upper arms, but the rest is stock. Axles we need axle to please.   For all the IFS trucks...please.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: THK Matt on Apr 24, 2018, 01:27:24 PM
Mike can I add the MarRack to my Tacoma without having to change all my control arms and other steering parts.  I will not be running tires over 35's ( 35's are larger then most overland trucks normally run)but the strength increase would be great.

I am sitting on a 3 inch lift, and have uniball upper arms, but the rest is stock. Axles we need axle to please.   For all the IFS trucks...please.

and MarCVs :turtle:

Money!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 24, 2018, 03:58:12 PM
MarCVs :turtle:
MarCVs - Has a nice sound to it! haha love it. RCV has some awesome axles however the stock CVs do hold up pretty well, even with 35s.

Mike can I add the MarRack to my Tacoma without having to change all my control arms and other steering parts.
Thank you for asking this. While it is certainly possible, my design criteria is for the Rock Crawler and as such will have very specific Rock Crawling features that I have not shared publicly yet that will not be compatible with unmodified vehicles.

Regards,
BigMike
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 300k on Apr 24, 2018, 04:02:01 PM
Is there something in the works for upper arms with All Pro leaving the scene?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Apr 24, 2018, 04:40:21 PM
While it is certainly possible, my design criteria is for the Rock Crawler and as such will have very specific Rock Crawling features that I have not shared publicly yet that will not be compatible with unmodified vehicles.
Regards,
BigMike

How much do you think I would have to change. Tie rod ends, stabilizer ends, pitman arms? 

It's great when you find things that are stronger/better then stock,  but not so great when you have to modify your truck from bumper to bumper just to add a fender flare..
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: redneckcustoms13 on Apr 24, 2018, 06:17:29 PM
Vman, I do not want to hijack this great thread about the ground breaking new face of the MC family. I would like to only make this one post regarding the rack and pinion. Mine in my 06 has over 350k on it. Bone stock and has had over the last 100k with 35s and 33s that are on 12" wide wheels. Mine is a pre runner but I live over a mile down an extremely rough dirt road and baja the crap out of this thing. All I have replaced is the stock worm out tie rod ends at about 325k. I believe your stock rack and pinion will hold up to 35s just fine if your doing trail riding and overland type rides. They are quite tough from my experience.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Apr 24, 2018, 06:40:21 PM
I believe your stock rack and pinion will hold up to 35s just fine if your doing trail riding and overland type rides. They are quite tough from my experience.

I am sure it will. My wife's 2004 4runner has done great for 14+ years with only now needing stabilizer ends. The question is "Can I make it better" then stock.

If you never need to upgrade that is fine, but that does not mean you should never improve on what you have.

Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: zippo on Apr 25, 2018, 07:54:43 AM
I'm somewhat confused. Why not just get a charlynn valve and just full hydro?!?!?! I would give you mad props, and that is really all that matters.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: redneckcustoms13 on Apr 25, 2018, 08:13:23 AM
Very little feedback and not street legal would be my assumption.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: zippo on Apr 25, 2018, 08:29:36 AM
Very little feedback and not street legal would be my assumption.

I looked and found no state law prohibiting full hydro. Maybe if you shared your references.

http://www.liftlaws.com/is_full_hydro_steering_street_legal.htm
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 300k on Apr 25, 2018, 09:15:16 AM
I looked and found no state law prohibiting full hydro. Maybe if you shared your references.

http://www.liftlaws.com/is_full_hydro_steering_street_legal.htm

I don't think it's actually illegal i think it just sucks to drive around with so most people don't do it.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: redneckcustoms13 on Apr 25, 2018, 09:23:35 AM
Read your link. Tennessee it is illegal. I got stopped in my yellow full hydro Toyota and got a warning from a state trooper for the steering having no mechanical linkage from steering wheel to knuckles. Maybe in the state that finds everything a cancer causing agent it is legal but in alabama and Tennessee it cannot be driven legally on the road.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: zippo on Apr 25, 2018, 09:31:00 AM
Read your link. Tennessee it is illegal. I got stopped in my yellow full hydro Toyota and got a warning from a state trooper for the steering having no mechanical linkage from steering wheel to knuckles. Maybe in the state that finds everything a cancer causing agent it is legal but in alabama and Tennessee it cannot be driven legally on the road.

You would be surprised the limited knowledge most police have about specific technical laws. Police give warnings all the time for things that aren't really against the law. It's the reason you got a warning and not a ticket.

Also big current setup would already be illegal in the example you gave.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Rockcrawlintoy on Apr 25, 2018, 02:37:19 PM
Read your link. Tennessee it is illegal. I got stopped in my yellow full hydro Toyota and got a warning from a state trooper for the steering having no mechanical linkage from steering wheel to knuckles. Maybe in the state that finds everything a cancer causing agent it is legal but in alabama and Tennessee it cannot be driven legally on the road.

Sounds like high steer would be illegal as well as a Drop J arm too.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Hilux_Max on Apr 25, 2018, 02:51:11 PM
We have the same issue here in Australia. Hydro steering is illegal for onroad use because there is no mechanical link.

But having said that....the new Toyota Camry has an electric steering system with no mechanical  link, so how to vehicle manufacturers get around that?
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: 300k on Apr 25, 2018, 03:38:44 PM
I got stopped in my yellow full hydro Toyota and got a warning from a state trooper

OK, let's not act surprised that you got stopped in that thing. The frame rail was like 7 feet off the ground lol
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: blackdiamond on Apr 25, 2018, 04:19:22 PM
Sounds like high steer would be illegal as well as a Drop J arm too.

I am not sur I follow. With high steer the steering box is direct to the steering wheel and fixed length links to the Knuckle arm. Even without the power steering pump working you can manually turn.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: Rockcrawlintoy on Apr 25, 2018, 04:34:37 PM
I am not sur I follow. With high steer the steering box is direct to the steering wheel and fixed length links to the Knuckle arm. Even without the power steering pump working you can manually turn.

Click the link. In Tenn it is illegal to modify the original steering at all.
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: AZ Rockit on Apr 25, 2018, 05:22:52 PM
Looking good  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: V-Man on Apr 25, 2018, 05:31:59 PM
Sorry mike.. I asked about the MarRack, but I did not think the thread would get hi-jacked like this.   :-\

Guys maybe we can start a thread about the other stuff.   :headscratch:
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 25, 2018, 06:22:52 PM
Looking good  :biggthumpup:

You going to the summit again? Can't wait to get to see this again
Thanks guys, and yessir I will be at FJ Summit with the Tacoma!!

Sorry mike.. I asked about the MarRack, but I did not think the thread would get hi-jacked like this.   :-\
No problem at all, I appreciate the extra discussion and it only adds to the thread as a whole :)

I'm somewhat confused. Why not just get a charlynn valve and just full hydro?!?!?! I would give you mad props, and that is really all that matters.
Very little feedback and not street legal would be my assumption.
I am not sur I follow. With high steer the steering box is direct to the steering wheel and fixed length links to the Knuckle arm. Even without the power steering pump working you can manually turn.
But having said that....the new Toyota Camry has an electric steering system with no mechanical  link, so how to vehicle manufacturers get around that?
Click the link. In Tenn it is illegal to modify the original steering at all.

Thanks for the comments guys. I have not read the law myself, but have been told numerous times by many prominent figures in the industry that full hydro steering is illegal for on-road use in what I've always taken to understand as in most States.

To redneckcustoms13's point, the lack of feedback is why I don't even run hydro assist on my 1981 (I've never had a lack of steering power with the stock 3RZ pump + cooler + 37s)

To blackdiamond's point, this is how I've understood it is that there is no redundancy and is therefore deemed unfit for road going vehicles

To Hilux_Max's comment about the Camry, that is very interesting. I wonder if it is truly 100% electric or if there is some sort of mechanical fall-back system...

To Rockcrawlintoy's point, it goes beyond this in that actually most all aftermarket parts could be considered illegal: Just ask Hilux_Max!! Forget about the fact they can only go +1" taller tire (yes only one inch!!), but they cannot even alter the factory width of their trucks in Australia. Also, to get aftermarket products approved for road use, as Max has told me, they have to take it to a government approved driving course and have an extensive engineering report performed before it can be sold en mass.

When you think about it that way, as much as I like to hate on California and our State government, we (ie. Marlin Crawler, a California company) are quite fortunate that we can specify "Off-road use only" and legally cleared from any on-road issues. Even something like an ARB Bumper, which you'd think has been researched to death and must be so safe, but look how it violates 5 MPH pedestrian impact laws (I'm speculating here, I don't know the law myself, but I hope you get my point -- I'm sure even Rock Sliders are illegal in most states if you were to boil it down to the nitty-gritty).

The scope of the MarRack
At the end of the day I need to develop something that has the most amount of potential clientele and yes as it's not already being used by the masses it will require marketing and product showcasing to move the mindset of the new crowd who-enjoys-watching-Toyota-commercials-of-Tacomas-pulling-guys-on-couch-sofas-in-sand-dunes to realize that there is another world that can be fun and challenging and thrilling that we call Rock Crawling.

I've only been around newer Tacoma/4Runner/FJ Cruiser events for only a year or so and from day one you realize that many still ask how to use the 4WD High Range select knobs on their dashes and who think 33" tires are 'extreme!!'. Try this: Read the Trail Rating definitions for both FJ Summit (https://www.fjsummit.org/trails.php) and the Texas Jamboree (https://www.lonestartoyotajamboree.com/#trails). The Summit lists for the most difficult trail: "Stock vehicles may be ok", and the Jamboree lists that 3-black diamond trails require "Large, aggressive tires" but yet 4-black diamond trails require "tires of at least 31-inch". So even a 31" tire is considered large and aggressive. You learn real quick that the new crowd has never been to the Rubicon, has never been to the Hammers, thinks everyone needs a wider light bar to go "trail riding", least of all to try to find and sell someone on a Char-Lynn valve! :D :D :D

Sorry, now I'm on a rant of my own lol Ok let's get back to business!!
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 25, 2018, 06:23:22 PM
March 2, 2018: Updated RCV axles and Front Differential back in, finally test driving!

The keen observer will notice a beautiful object in the background of my last picture, and that would be RCV's new updated Ultimate outer CVs! Since last winter they redesigned both the outer CV and boot, now using a more compact design for both. I LOVE it! Much better design, thank you RCV!! They require less to be ground off of the lower ball joint bolt, and hopefully these boots will last more than 1 wheeling trip!!

BTW, since we are on the subject, remember how I mentioned RCV 100% guarantees these shafts up to a size 40" tire? Well, it turns out these are the same outer CVs used in their Dana 60 Ultimate Axle kit!! I can't repeat what I've been told, but just know that on the D60 setup they guarantee up to a larger tire. Much larger. They are extremely confident in their 40" tire guarantee. Thank you RCV for making these axles for us IFS guys!

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Now that I've got my axles back, the differential went in and the truck was ready for some daily driving testing.

At this time, I was waiting for parts to be machined and really wanted to get the truck back out on the road. I found some tie rod ends that would work by drilling out and flipping their insertion into my steering arms. This of course is not the final design and will cause all sorts of handling issues, but it allowed me to get some miles on the MarRack to monitor how it's doing.

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This spring my factory Toyota battery had been struggling. In fact the black box in my engine bay above is a battery charger. Well, it finally gave up the ghost. It lasted only 2 years.

I didn't spend as much time as I should have with this but I knew I didn't want another Optima due to reduced quality (they were much better in the early 200s). So I went with this Bosch Platinum Advanced AGM/EnergyLife battery. I went with one size larger than what the book called for which fit with no problems and had slightly better amperage ratings. The part number I went with is 24F-710BAGM (group size 24F), and specs are: CCA @ 0* F: 710, CA @ 32* F: 850, and a 120 minute reserve capacity.

A regret from this was that because I plan on relocating the battery under the bed in June (similar to what I did with my Hilux), I wished the stock battery had lasted a few months longer so I could have picked any size battery available (they do make a 770 CCA version that I would have got instead).

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 25, 2018, 06:23:52 PM
Anyway, enough yacking, it's time I express my experiences in daily driving with 40" tires!

From March 2 until April 8 I was driving the truck all over town. The incorrect steering geometry was quite difficult to manage, as expected, so I actually never went over 60 MPH even on the highway. So my experiences for the moment are limited. But when driven normally, the ride is good, the tires are much more quiet than the old 37" BFG KRAWLERs, braking power feels good, and while acceleration has been reduced, you only notice this when you lug the engine around. If you let it get over 3,600 RPM or so where that power band hits then it pulls hard, no problem at all. But if you short shift and try to lug the engine at under 1,500 RPM it just doesn't want to do anything.

Here is my wife staring at it with equal amazement as me! (haha probably she is so tired of me talking about it all the time)

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 25, 2018, 06:24:15 PM
Got dinner with my friend Holly and her awesome 3rd gen 4Runner (my favorite 4R body style of all time!)

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Parked next to CruzrDave's LX450 on 35s

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The 40s even provide a nice nesting place for birds ^__^

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 25, 2018, 06:24:36 PM
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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 25, 2018, 06:24:53 PM
Also get'n some love from Facebook!

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Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 25, 2018, 06:25:39 PM
Ok guys here is the #1 biggest thing I've noticed since on 40s:

Bros in full size vehicles have began treating me like CRAP. I am serious. I get lifted full size Fords, Chevys, and Rams flooring it just to block me at freeway on-ramps, intentionally trying to out accelerate me at green lights, coal rollers spooling their turbos even when the next intersection is a red light, braking hard and cutting me off, turning their radio up when they roll next to me, changing lanes at the last second right before a red light intersection just so that I am behind them, and so on.

Yet always when I look over directly at them, they never make eye contact with me. These lifted chrome pavement pounders never did this to me when I was on 37s.

And trust me, it's not my driving: (1) I respect that this is a lifted Rock Crawler doubling as a daily driver so I drive extra defensively, (2) I've got horrible steering/handling at the moment so I couldn't drive aggressive if someone paid me, and (3) my Supercharged 6-speed MR2 is the vehicle I use to get my thrills on the pavement---certainly not a 4WD truck.

Moreover, I'm building this Tacoma under the brand that literally invented the sport of Rock Crawling so in my mind I represent the Rock Crawling industry as a whole which doesn't have any place for my ego at some random street corner: I save that for the trail!! The last thing I need is a photo going viral of me mall crawling up lamp posts (seen people get tickets for this), or rolling the truck doing doughnuts in a McDonalds parking lot (seen this happen), or being pulled over by the police for speeding. I've always accepted the responsibility and never do something stupid in a truck used for marketing and research purposes. (My point is, for example: Try to find a picture of me and my 1981 Triple Cased Hilux driving in meadows and using trees as RTI ramps. Being respectful on and off road is a day in & day out natural responsibility for everyone at Marlin Crawler.)

But man oh man, American truck owners sure seem to dislike whatever it is my Tacoma represents. It's true; I haven't had any of the experiences with lifted Tundras or Titans. They don't seem to mind!

Finally, check this out and sorry in advance for the foul language: One day after doing some shopping I get home to find this...

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No clue who did it or where it occurred. Fortunately it came off with my fingers. It was a type of dry erase marker. I immediately thought about one of my favorite Alux videos about Haters (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW1jQyBXbvo). Two quotes popped into my mind:
-- "One indicator that you're on the path to success and doing something right are the haters."
and
-- "Being hated is better than being ignored, because that means whatever you're doing isn't worth noticing."
Title: Re: BigMike's Big Journey: A 2016 Tacoma Build Thread
Post by: BigMike on Apr 25, 2018, 06:26:37 PM
Lastly, a bit on fuel mileage and RCV's new boots.

Corrected my speedometer using Hypertech Module P/N 730123
I didn't document or take pictures of this, but I tried and tried and tried to get a Dakota Digital SGI-5E to work and I finally gave up. I don't think it's compatible with the CAN Bus network we have. So I painstakingly went with the expensive Hypertech 730123 in-line speedometer calibrator which works great. The software is a bit clunky but no worries as you only need to use it once to configure it and then done. I don't have any pictures of this or even what date it was that I installed it. It was sometime in March.

Fuel Mileage
But now that I have corrected my speedometer (iPhone GPS verified), I can now share my Fuel Mileage with 40s :D Of course at this time I've only been doing 60 MPH on the freeway for a month straight, but good news I've been getting over 18 MPG! So here is a pro tip: If you want better gas mileage just slow down! hahaha

With 40" tires at 60 MPH in 6th gear, engine RPM is about 1,800. (That's almost 500 RPM less than stock!!)

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RCV's updated boots
Well guys. All the hype with the new, smaller profile RCV "version 2" boots was for naught. With only around 500 street miles and staying under the speed limit on highways they have died!! :'(

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So I've requested new boots and have an idea that might help which is to scrunch the replacement boot as close to t