Topic: The Macheen rebuild

[nwflyoda]

Hey, my name is Dan and here is a build thread for my junk.

Her stats:

84 yota long bed pickup
22rtp (turbo on propane)
Dual stock geared cases w/ marlin adapter and 23 spline input to the rear case with rear drive line disco
5.29 heat treated and cryo'd gears w/ full spool out back and aussie locker up front
Fully braced/trussed front axle w/ longs, chromoly hub gears and arp studs
High steer with hydro assist
Stock wide track rear axle housing
4" all pro front springs w/ 63" chevy 1/2 springs out back
Fully Exo and tube bed
Milemark 8k winch
40" TSLs on 15x10 Cragar soft 8s
DIY weld on beadlock kit





I'm going to go wheeling this weekend at Choccolocco Mountain for one last hurah for my yota as all toyota parts.  After this weekend she'll be getting torn down for a rebuild.  It'll be a bit of a slow build since sadly, i'm not Dan Bilzerian.  She'll get linked with Mog 404 axles, full hydro steering, cutting brakes and ORI struts.  I'm gonna be putting a Dana 300 behind my front yota case so that I can hang the 300 upside down for a driverside drop setup.  I've already got the new tcase adapter.

[nwflyoda [OP]]

Sadly, I wasn't even able to make it on the trailer for the ride last weekend.  As I was climbing onto the trailer 4 teeth on the rear R&P let go. 



Oh well, the disassembly is still going to commence.

[jangelfire]

Nice rig! Have you had problems running the 4Ds with yota axles?

[nwflyoda [OP]]

Nice rig! Have you had problems running the 4Ds with yota axles?

Not at all.  I put the Longs in right after I got a hold of these tires and have never had any issues with them.  Hell, the longs took more abuse than the front pinion could when I was in a nasty undercut.  Ended up snapping the pinion between the bearings.

[nwflyoda [OP]]

I've started pulling her apart yesterday.  I haven't made much progress sadly.  But i'm not in a big rush either.

Pulled the rear axle and set her up on jack stands.

[nwflyoda [OP]]

I continued to work on the truck.  The poor girl is now a low rider. haha  The next phase is going to be cutting the cage so that I can fully weld some parts of the cage that I was too excited and missed during the initial build.


I also got the "half rock rings" in from trail worthy fab.

[nwflyoda [OP]]

Moderators, I just realized that I  placed my build thread in the wrong section.  Can someone please move it to the correct section?  Thank you.

[TheeMikeB]

I like the lines of your exo... looks mean.

[nwflyoda [OP]]

Thanks boss.  Thats what we were going for when we build the cage.  I've been told it looks like something out of mad max.  lol

[nwflyoda [OP]]

Got a bit more done on the truck.  Started pulling the parts/wiring off of the inner fenders to prepare it for the cab coming off.



After getting it ready to lift the cab, my buddy and I were talking and he brought up a really good point.  It'll be better to build the suspension how it needs to be done then build the cage body around it vs having to cram it in a tight confined space.  So....with that good point, the front clip was cut off of the truck.




I'll be putting the front clip back on but for now, until the suspension is built like I want it to be...it'll stay off so that I can keep the truck low as possible (a tough task with the mog axles).

[nwflyoda [OP]]

I was able to make more progress today.  I finally got the cab off of the truck and now i'm about to the point where I can start fixing/assembling the truck.

[tgmaul88]

That's a lot of 10 mm 12 mm and 14mm

[nwflyoda [OP]]

haha...yes it is.  I used those sockets/wrenches quiet a bit!  Its funny/sad, that all of the work i've been doing at the moment is all just to have fully access to the cage that was right against the cab.  Now, i can fully weld that and then put the cab back on. 

[Dingman.]

Do you already have the uni mogs?

[nwflyoda [OP]]

Do you already have the uni mogs?

I sure do.

[Dingman.]

 

Lol

Ive only seen mogs a few times, most people don't realize how long the pinion is on them.  Are you going to stretch the wheelbase quite a bit?

[nwflyoda [OP]]

Lol

Ive only seen mogs a few times, most people don't realize how long the pinion is on them.  Are you going to stretch the wheelbase quite a bit?

oh i certainly know how long they are.  i was at 114" before...planning on going to about 118...The truck was originally a long bed.  The front is my biggest concern really.  I'll start building the front suspension.  I'm probably gonna move the engine over to the passenger side a bit and cut the frame rail in from of the motor mounts in order to keep the truck low.

[Dingman.]

Will be watching! looks like it will be an awesome build!

[nwflyoda [OP]]

Will be watching! looks like it will be an awesome build!

Thanks!  i'm pretty stoked about it to say the least!

[nwflyoda [OP]]

Got a little bit done on the truck this weekend.  Installed the new Marlin 22rte clutch.  Now, she should be able to handle the powa.



Welded up the cage behind the cab and painted it.



I pulled the old doubler setup off and started to setup the new doubler but then i realized that the Marlin adapter that i was running include a custom bearing and i no longer have the stock bearing so i need to get one before i can finish the new doubler setup.  Poor truck is in pieces now but at least some new parts have been getting installed.

[redneckcustoms13]

It's a heap of junk. Will never run again... just forkin with you dan. IL glad to see its finally getting the mogs. Call up a weekend when all the parts are ready I'll ride over.

[nwflyoda [OP]]

Thanks bud, me too!  The truck should be pretty nasty once she is all back together.

[nwflyoda [OP]]

Tinkered with the truck a bit more.  I mocked up the cage for the ID tube clamps and tack welded them into place.

[nwflyoda [OP]]

Mocked up the transfer cases this weekend so that i could redrill the adapter for the angle i want the dana 300 to sit at.






I also went ahead and picked up these cute little guys.



I wanted to also see how full i can get my garage

[Dingman.]

Going with rear steer! 

[nwflyoda [OP]]

Yeah buddy!!  gonna be nice to be able to have more options when i get hung up on a rock, tree or car.

[LittleSteve]

If for some bizarre reason you tear into the drop boxes make sure when you reassemble them that you do it correctly, Dont mix gears up put each dissasemble box into a box on its own and mark it as such. if you dont the thrust created by the bevel gears will jack the housings apart and crack the casings, seen it been on the side of the road fixing it.... So you might want to make sure you establish which of the two is the 'front' or even if its been setup correctly.
Have you considered having housings made to suit the knuckles and drop boxes? Cos i know for a fact them diffs are heavy as hell especially when your putting em in on your own. Would also give you greater gearing options.
Off the top of my head the diffs are 3.5:1 and the portal drop boxes are 2.summin:1 giving you 7.summin :1 axle ratio.

 

[nwflyoda [OP]]

If for some bizarre reason you tear into the drop boxes make sure when you reassemble them that you do it correctly, Dont mix gears up put each dissasemble box into a box on its own and mark it as such. if you dont the thrust created by the bevel gears will jack the housings apart and crack the casings, seen it been on the side of the road fixing it.... So you might want to make sure you establish which of the two is the 'front' or even if its been setup correctly.
Have you considered having housings made to suit the knuckles and drop boxes? Cos i know for a fact them diffs are heavy as hell especially when your putting em in on your own. Would also give you greater gearing options.
Off the top of my head the diffs are 3.5:1 and the portal drop boxes are 2.summin:1 giving you 7.summin :1 axle ratio.

 

Thank you for your input, its certainly helpful in case that i over look something!!     Yeah, i'm definitely aware of the portal gears and the issue if you put them on backwards.  Not from experience luckily.  lol  I've actually got 2 full sets of 404 axles and a good buddy of mine has 2 complete Mogs.  Since the guy that i bought the axles from set them up so long ago, he didn't remember which axle is which (front vs rear), so i'm gonna pull them apart to verify that they will be driving on the right side of the gear to be on the safe side.  Plus, i've got one portal box leaking gear oil anyhow.  naw, I'm not gonna swap the housings.  These ole gals are certainly heavy.  The double wall housing definitely make em a bit heavier but i'm not too terribly worried since the weight will be down low.   In regards to the gearing, you are right on the money...they are 7.56 geared but I'm not looking for top speed.  haha

[LittleSteve]

Thank you for your input, its certainly helpful in case that i over look something!!     Yeah, i'm definitely aware of the portal gears and the issue if you put them on backwards.  Not from experience luckily.  lol  I've actually got 2 full sets of 404 axles and a good buddy of mine has 2 complete Mogs.  Since the guy that i bought the axles from set them up so long ago, he didn't remember which axle is which (front vs rear), so i'm gonna pull them apart to verify that they will be driving on the right side of the gear to be on the safe side.  Plus, i've got one portal box leaking gear oil anyhow.  naw, I'm not gonna swap the housings.  These ole gals are certainly heavy.  The double wall housing definitely make em a bit heavier but i'm not too terribly worried since the weight will be down low.   In regards to the gearing, you are right on the money...they are 7.56 geared but I'm not looking for top speed.  haha

I was thinking along the lines of a 5.29:1 diff ratio with the portals thats 10:1 without the dual cases....
Ive cut two sets of cases now and converted them for right hand drop t cases, theres a lot of work in it....

[nwflyoda [OP]]

I was thinking along the lines of a 5.29:1 diff ratio with the portals thats 10:1 without the dual cases....
Ive cut two sets of cases now and converted them for right hand drop t cases, theres a lot of work in it....

wow...that would be a crazy amount of gear reduction.  i wouldn't be able to go over 30 mph.  hahaha