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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2015, 06:16:50 PM »
Also had plans of running a taurus fan but not enough room. Any other suggestions of a high flowing fan that's low profile?
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #31 on: Jun 02, 2015, 06:58:57 AM »
We're getting close. Unable to find any info on what throttle cable folks are using other than an re cable that doesn't mount to firewall the same, I got a universal from the parts house and got it all squared away, have one part left to finish on it to get it done. But here it is $25
this is the part left to fix with a brass connector
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #32 on: Jun 02, 2015, 09:05:31 AM »
Also ran power to the driver side so the factory alternator and starter wiring harness could be utilized
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #33 on: Jun 02, 2015, 11:32:59 AM »
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #34 on: Jun 02, 2015, 11:43:15 AM »
Big mike, I was to throw a major thank you and a big +1 to you for all of your time, effort, and knowledge that build the swap thread. That makes these projects much more simple for folks to take on.
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #35 on: Jun 02, 2015, 12:25:43 PM »
Over tightened the valve cover when re sealing it and put a small crack in it. So in case of a leak I went ahead and grabbed one from the u pull it cleaned all the junk out of it, removed the baffle and cleaned more. Replaced baffle and painted it.
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #36 on: Jun 02, 2015, 12:48:55 PM »
Looks like a very clean swap. My intake is in the same spot and I have always wondered if I'm doing it a disservice by having it directly over my hot header. Haven't figured out what to do about it yet. I see 90% of guys with the 3RZ swap do the same though so it must not be that big of a deal. How close is that exhaust run to your gas tank?

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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #37 on: Jun 02, 2015, 12:53:49 PM »
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #38 on: Jun 02, 2015, 01:11:49 PM »
A lot more room with the egr delete. Maybe the gas tank didn't fit because of the truck being 2wd originally. I did my throttle cable similar to this http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/toyota-truck-4runner/475469-just-some-84-85-3rz-swap-tech.html#/forumsite/21027/topics/475469?page=2

Nice work so far
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #39 on: Jun 02, 2015, 01:21:51 PM »
Looks like a very clean swap. My intake is in the same spot and I have always wondered if I'm doing it a disservice by having it directly over my hot header. Haven't figured out what to do about it yet. I see 90% of guys with the 3RZ swap do the same though so it must not be that big of a deal. How close is that exhaust run to your gas tank?

I don't like that location for the air intake. I would call that a hot air intake. I used the t100 box cut at the bottom and resealed to fit. I also used the factory "snorkel" pulling air from the fender well
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #40 on: Jun 02, 2015, 05:21:37 PM »
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #41 on: Jun 02, 2015, 07:46:21 PM »
Thanks for all the comments guys. Thanks for getting those jam nuts out today your the man! Yes egr delete freed up a little room exhaust is about 20 inches or so from tank haven't measured it. I'm not sure on why rear of tank has to set lower. My 80 is a factory 4wd and I measured all of it and it's the same as this 83, no clue really.
Today got the fan on, picked location for the fan controller, finished throttle cable, and ran the speedometer cable. The power steering hose I got today off an ifs parts truck is a no go. Guess I have one built.
Wound up placing a washer just for safe measure, and got the dead man on the end at the throttle body
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #42 on: Jun 02, 2015, 07:55:08 PM »
On the intake set up, once all the wiring is finished and bay is cleaned up I'm thinking I'll route it closer to the battery. I have the heat shield for the manifold just haven't put it on until the wiring is done. Fan pics, it's just a 16" 2500cfm we will see if it's enough.
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #43 on: Jun 02, 2015, 07:59:30 PM »
Another note on the air box. I agree hot air isn't the best for the intake, but if you see how it's set up factory, and in live oaks rig above it passes right above the manifold where that expansion box or whatever you call it is doing nothing but absorbing heat and directing it to the intake, so sqwadoosh I think we and all of the others aren't hurting much doing it this way???
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #44 on: Jun 02, 2015, 10:34:06 PM »
The factory picks up cooler air from outside and is shielded somewhat from exhaust heat.  Open air elements suck in hot engine bay air, not just the little bit of heat coming off the manifold/header.
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #45 on: Jun 03, 2015, 04:50:28 AM »
You have a valid point for sure. On my 98 taco a friend gave me this Aem intake. I clock mileage on every tank. I used to get between 275-280 on a tank before I would fill up and hold about 16 gallons. Since the intake I still fill up about 275-280 but it's holding 14-15 gallons. It's getting hot air, but I can't even imagine how much more it's getting with less restriction. Like mentioned above it may be a disservice but it doesn't complain much.
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #46 on: Jun 03, 2015, 04:54:28 AM »
Looking above at live oaks engine bay. I see he has a 4 coil engine. And when they did the 4 coils they deleted the vacuum switch on the steering pump. Do you guys think I could simply pull the bolt from mine and an regular ifs steering line would thread into the pump?
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #47 on: Jun 03, 2015, 05:52:55 AM »
You have a valid point for sure. On my 98 taco a friend gave me this Aem intake. I clock mileage on every tank. I used to get between 275-280 on a tank before I would fill up and hold about 16 gallons. Since the intake I still fill up about 275-280 but it's holding 14-15 gallons. It's getting hot air, but I can't even imagine how much more it's getting with less restriction. Like mentioned above it may be a disservice but it doesn't complain much.

Eh...I think Nate is right. A filter pulling hot air is going to be quite a bit different than something like you are showing here where you just have a bypass tube that is getting hot air wafted onto it. Rather than play the guessing game though I plan on just routing my intake somewhere different. A couple of options I am weighing:



I can't remember where I found this picture. I believe it was from a pirate thread on a guy's 3RZ swap. This option definitely cures the hot air problem as you will see if you place your hand where his filter is in this picture when your engine is running there is a windstorm of cool air coming from the fan in that spot. My concern and hesitation with this spot is that if you take a big puddle with some speed or go into one that you didn't realize is as deep as it actually is. You are looking at sucking in water. The nice thing about having the intake where we have it now is that if you get yourself into such a situation you have that extra space to stop and back out before it gets to the intake. Ask me how I know about that situation and how its saved my ass so far.  :nerv:







The other option that I am leaning more towards, is doing something similar to what Roger at 4Crawler did. The difference being that instead of as far forward on the fender as his starts it would be a direct shot from the intake to the fender. The problem I came across with doing this is the filter. So I did some looking into it and found an inline filter that I think will work great and solve this issue.



This inline filter housing can be found HERE it comes with a corresponding filter to go in the housing but I heard from Nation that he had used one of those filters before and it was rubbish so I think I will go with a different more reputable brand and just use the housing.

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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #48 on: Jun 03, 2015, 06:13:59 AM »
I like that set up. Being a pavement pounder I think I'm going to try ans get it closer to battery and let her rip. On a rig like yours or my 4runner where water crossing are part of its daily life a snorkel is a must. Mine is stock 22re box with pvc ran up and on top of the valve cover at the firewall. I've had it over my knees in the creek and it's still doing fine.
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #49 on: Jun 03, 2015, 06:37:12 AM »
Looking above at live oaks engine bay. I see he has a 4 coil engine. And when they did the 4 coils they deleted the vacuum switch on the steering pump. Do you guys think I could simply pull the bolt from mine and an regular ifs steering line would thread into the pump?

yes the regular line will thread in to the power steering pump. my 3rz had an electronic idle up switch on the factory power steer hose but I removed it so I could thread the ifs line into it. I plan to add it back at some point
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #50 on: Jun 03, 2015, 07:07:41 AM »
Awesome! That just saved a little bit and added 2 more vacuum caps to the intake. Before long they will all be capped off.  :think:
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #51 on: Jun 03, 2015, 08:35:46 AM »
I have heard of people using the 5vz air box on the 3rz swap as it fits in height and has the advantage of a vertically installed filter that can be accessed from the top of the box. It also pulls air from the fender well
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #52 on: Jun 03, 2015, 10:04:24 AM »
That's nice, but I have a battery there lol
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #53 on: Jun 03, 2015, 11:00:18 PM »
Do you want to get rid of some of the stuff on your driver side fender?  I just picked up an '82 that has no spark.

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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #54 on: Jun 04, 2015, 04:47:35 AM »
I normally just toss it in the toyota cabinet in the shed. You tell me what all you need I'm sure we can work out something on getting it to you. I just haven't removed it yet because the wiring isn't completed
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #55 on: Jun 04, 2015, 10:04:19 PM »
Different dog, but my brother had an ae86 corolla he tried to squeeze more power out of.  He looked at the aftermarket "cold air" kits and decided to make a gauge to test the flow of air at the throttle body using liquid and vacuum.  Stock it barely sucked up any air, then he cut a 3" hole in the bottom of the factory airbox and the thing sucked massive amounts of air.  No other major tricks, just allowed in more air than the oe inlet, and no expensive aftermarket filter that wouldn't pass smog.  Same could be done for ours with a similar setup to the pic with the pvc inlet in the fender.
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #56 on: Jun 04, 2015, 10:24:26 PM »
I have a 5vz filter box and without moving the fuse box don't see how it would fit.
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #57 on: Jun 04, 2015, 11:24:40 PM »
I normally just toss it in the toyota cabinet in the shed. You tell me what all you need I'm sure we can work out something on getting it to you. I just haven't removed it yet because the wiring isn't completed

I need to try a couple more things to diagnose the problem, but if it comes down to needing an igniter, I'll let you know.

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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #58 on: Jun 05, 2015, 04:53:45 AM »
That's interesting on the filter box. I've seen guys trying to keep a duramax appearance stock cutting holes in their boxes as well.
Just let me know on parts. When I got this truck the dizzy would randomly turd out. Thought it was ignitor but ended up being dizzy
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #59 on: Jun 05, 2015, 05:06:14 AM »
No going back now. Hardest part of the swap for me was drilling those 3 holes. Idk why but it was add just to see the firewall on a 1st gen rather than a master cyl.

Really need to find a shift boot for a truck with a top shift case. This one is from a forward shift and is not happy.
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