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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #240 on: Jun 03, 2016, 10:08:59 PM »
Edited it. Still no dice. I'm a failure.
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #241 on: Jun 04, 2016, 07:49:29 AM »
I love the factory paint job on your rig. So jealous that second gens didn't come with anything cool....

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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #242 on: Jun 05, 2016, 06:57:18 AM »
I'd gladly trade brown paint with stripes for the option of a dual cab in the 1st gen flavor. Thank you for the compliment. I am very partial to brown. Not sure why.
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #243 on: Jun 06, 2016, 01:10:54 PM »
Edited it. Still no dice. I'm a failure.

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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #244 on: Jun 06, 2016, 06:54:16 PM »
Just tried that. I'm not getting it.
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Re: 83 daily driver build
« Reply #245 on: Jun 06, 2016, 06:59:49 PM »
The 2 8's were doing a decent job but more is always better right?
 This morning i picked up a set of m2652 6.5s to put up front. Spent a little bit installing them this evening when I got off.












 Have to represent the local stereo shop, the girl gave me a killer deal on the 6.5s. Got them for way less than online and 2 year warranty.
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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #246 on: Aug 01, 2016, 06:54:18 PM »
After a little 125 mile ride, 30 mins to pull it, and $100 we have an e locker for it. Just ordered a set of 4.88 and solid pinion spacer.



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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #247 on: Aug 08, 2016, 02:40:05 PM »
Gears are now with my friend frank who will be setting them up on the e locker. I have a set of shafts from a 95 4runner to put new bearings on and install with the elocker. Then to our the front together. Ghetto fab welded spiders. Just can't justify the price of a locker that i know ill break eventually.
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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #248 on: Aug 08, 2016, 03:18:12 PM »
After having the spooled rear in my yota, i don't know if i'll ever go back to it again.  Worked great, but with the limo wheel base i like to run, makes turns tuff.  haha

What issues have you had with lockers?  I ran the aussie and broke the pins once, after i replaced them i never had an issue again.
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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #249 on: Aug 08, 2016, 03:31:23 PM »
I grenaded lock rites. I've always ran welded front in the rigs. your right it's tougher to turn but I know it isn't going to break. Ring and pinion would fail first. I feel better that way. Definitely not wasting the e locker on the front
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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #250 on: Aug 08, 2016, 06:40:01 PM »
The funny part is that i had the locker up front and the spool in the back.  haha  granted you aren't running the tires that i was, but i definitely KO'd quiet a few ring and pinions over the years.  It didn't help that they were 5.29s either. 
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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #251 on: Aug 08, 2016, 08:37:01 PM »
I know a couple of guys here in Australia that have welded diffs in the front. If they are going out bush they just lock in one hub, and then lock the second one when required. I still run an open centre in the front of my Hilux, partly because I'm not sure what to replace it with.
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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #252 on: Aug 09, 2016, 05:00:18 AM »
I know a couple of guys here in Australia that have welded diffs in the front. If they are going out bush they just lock in one hub, and then lock the second one when required. I still run an open centre in the front of my Hilux, partly because I'm not sure what to replace it with.

You could put in a......Aussie locker.  :cheese: I'm here all week....actually I'm here all the time  :sad2:

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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #253 on: Aug 09, 2016, 03:07:30 PM »
I refuse 5.29 after seeing yours and others experience.  That's why I stuck with 4.88. I should probably quit being cheap and just find another elocker for front. On the lock 1 and roll with it theory. I've done that for year's and agree it works great helps to turn that direction of locked hub easy as well. Probably just welding and let her eat until another $100 e locker comes along.
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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #254 on: Aug 09, 2016, 05:59:33 PM »
I ran a welded in the front for 3 trips and a comp then pulled it out. Now I have it in the rear and putting a Spartan Locker in the front. I didn't like all the stress the weldie put on the front end.

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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #255 on: Aug 10, 2016, 05:43:16 AM »
I've never broke a 5.29  :dunno:
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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #256 on: Aug 10, 2016, 07:06:39 AM »
I don't see how. Dan did it with a 22r 39.5 tsl in a dirt undercut.
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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #257 on: Aug 10, 2016, 07:16:03 AM »
10+ years so far on the rear. HP front is probably 2 years now.
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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #258 on: Aug 10, 2016, 08:36:58 AM »
Haven't broken one either and I had enough force to completely shear a rear axle shaft clean. My 5.29s are cryoed though for full disclosure.

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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #259 on: Aug 10, 2016, 08:54:49 AM »
I have ran 5.29s in my Toyotas since about 1996.  I had one set in the rear shed a few teeth but it was when a carrier bearing shifted or wore out.  I didn't set that one up so it may have been loose carrier bearing preload.  I really hacked on it back then and my rig had lots of axle wrap.

Only other set I broke was in the front and I was doing wheelies off a snow bank and had the throttle in the on position when the wheels touched down and the front end loaded HARD.  3RZ and MTRs at 5 psi something had to go.

I think 4.88s would be just fine but I'm not convinced that 5.29s aren't viable if set up properly.  I've been working on mastering the "slight deep" performance setup that ZUK does.  He helped me find it corresponding with pics on my last setup.  In the past I've just looked for the "exact pattern" which is fine but not as strong in theory. If I bust them I'll post up :).

I am learning after like 20+ gear setups that R&P setup is a patience game.  Sometimes you nail it first try but it takes what it takes and if you rush it you will not get a good strong setup.

My favorite gears for quiet running and setup are the 3.90s that came stock in the 1981 trucks.  The pinion is big, they are that different looking early style gear set that I'm convinced are better quality and they make the whole drivetrain seem quiet.  Unfortunately the gear ratio sucks.  Maybe with a diesel?

Anyway, kind of off track here...
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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #260 on: Sep 02, 2016, 05:12:17 AM »
I don't see how. Dan did it with a 22r 39.5 tsl in a dirt undercut.

Yeah, i've gone through  probably 5 sets of 5.29s gears (all heat treated and cyro'd).  Most of those failures were due to cheap Chinese gears or some other failure, but i still KO'd a set or two of some yukon gears to do wheeling hard.

With that being said, i'd definitely go with the 4.88s instead.
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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #261 on: Sep 02, 2016, 02:32:51 PM »
Exhaust was rattling again so the glass pack acting as a resonator ended up coming apart sending chunks into the muffler. It's internals also started rattling so round 4 of exhaust here we go. Another muffler with no glass pack this time. Still quiet but over 4500rpm sounds like a civic with a fart pipe. :thumbdown:

I know that isn't an elocker 3rd so don't remind me. Frank hasn't had time to fool with building it yet. :-\
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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #262 on: Sep 11, 2016, 11:43:37 AM »
Frank finished building the elocker with the 4.88s. We were discussing me dropping the rear axle and taking to a friend's place to cut it up and make the e locker fit. Frank asked me if I had any problems with just running a tacoma housing. Only problem I had was thst I didn't have one. He has one for $20 lol so I plan to scoop all that up from him in a little while and try to clean it all up, drop the 3rd in, get the shafts back in, paint it up, install new brake shoes and get it ready to slap in there. Up front I suppose I'll do ifs hubs as well as the existing 1.5" wheel spacers to match the width of the newer rear axle. Which rotors would you guys prefer for doing the v6 calipers with ifs hubs? 
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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #263 on: Sep 11, 2016, 12:12:58 PM »
82 land cruiser vented rotors, you do have to redrill them though. And you really want to widening the front axle 6"??? That seems a bit excessive and likely to cause a decent amount of wear on the wheel bearings. How wide the the Taco exle? IIRC there's one that's 58.5 and one that's 60",the front axle with either 1.5 or the IFS hub swap will be 58.5 inches and maybe p to 59 if you have to run 1/4 spacers to make your rims work with the V6 calipers.

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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #264 on: Sep 11, 2016, 01:36:28 PM »
I'm thinking about just doing the tacoma rotors so they will slip on without re drilling stuff. We will see how the wheel bearings last. Only one way to find out.
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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #265 on: Sep 11, 2016, 04:04:31 PM »
Got the 3rd back from frank along with his housing and shafts. One has a bad bearing as well as no brake parts left. Debating now if I'd rather just spend the time to cut, drill, and tap my ifs width rear and be done with it. The taco axle would end up with disk brakes ($450) not to mention new bearings and seals and all that. I'll just go snatch some 89-95 4runner shafts with good bearings and seals. Problem then is parking brake...

On another note, I love when I go to mom's for a family gathering and find toyota parts in the shop I forgot I had. Found these ifs hubs when I went to get the other 4.88 3rd.
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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #266 on: Sep 12, 2016, 09:54:47 AM »
All clean
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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #267 on: Sep 15, 2016, 03:14:38 PM »
Hit the u pull it today and got a spare housing from a 93 to put the elocker in. Also grabbed some axle shafts from a 94 4runner.
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83 long bed, sas, hi steer, 3rz, w56, 4.56 33s
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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #268 on: Sep 16, 2016, 08:01:58 AM »
Are the spring perches wider on that housing?  I ran into an issue with that when i put a wider housing on my and the ubolt plates weren't exactly wide enough...but i made em work. 
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Re: 83 3rz daily driver / matching boat
« Reply #269 on: Sep 16, 2016, 08:27:30 AM »
As far as I can tell sir. I've never had that issue.
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